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7 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

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The real welfare queens.  Thoughts and Prayers bitches!

There aren't any jobs in West Virginia.  How about they fucking move to where the jobs are?

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10 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

So for YOU, WHY would the Maine congressional delegation be significantly different than how the state citizens voted?

I already answered that- because “local interests often (or usually, really) transcend national party alignment.” People who live in the same community of interest generally agree on the major local economic and social issues, irrespective of their views on national political issues. 

For example, most voters in the Big Country, regardless of party, agree that orphaned oil wells are a problem. 

Different elections, different electorates. 

10 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

 

The federal house delegation should match the state electorate.  The state house delegation should match the state electorate.  The local political delegation should match the local electorate.

This is precisely the question you leave begging. Why should it match when the issues faced by the nation or state as a whole do not encompass or reflect the interests of local communities in their interactions with the rest of the state and nation?

That’s the question you’ve been refusing to respond to for 20 years. “Why should they match?” In response,  you just continue chanting your mantra, “they should match.”

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Well Ryleigh, I hate to say it but wait until they ban hormonal birth control which is one of the ways in which to keep endometriosis under control. You will have company in the unable to conceive for health reasons category. But Viagra for the boys is still available!

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13 hours ago, Born to Run said:

She gonna be Jocelyn her schedule around looking for a jobby job

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jaguar, but still…

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25 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

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BALDWIN, Mich. — Ryleigh Cooper exhaled as she slid onto the couch after nine hours of work for the U.S. Forest Service, still covered in the blue paint she used to mark trees for local loggers. Then she got the text.

“I hate to be the bearer of bad news,” her union leader wrote.

It was the second Thursday in February, and a historic White House purge aimed at federal workers like Cooper was sweeping the country. But the headlines felt far away from her life in rural Michigan. She figured her job, with paychecks totaling about $40,000 a year, would be safe from the cost-cutting campaign led by President Donald Trump and billionaire Elon Musk.

Besides, motherhood was her most pressing concern. Cooper, 24, and her husband were trying to get pregnant, but the doctor said that IVF might be their best chance. Trump had promised to make it free. That is what she thought about in the voting booth.

Now she was staring at her phone, learning that probationary workers in the Forest Service were the next to be fired by his administration. Cooper would likely be one of them, her union head told her.

Her eyes watered. She knew it wasn’t personal. Every day brought new rumors of cuts, and her performance evaluation from last fall found her “fully successful” — the highest possible score. She reminded herself that she had done everything right: graduated college with a 3.5 GPA, finished her first semester of work toward a master’s degree in forestry with a 4.0, rescued two dogs and two cats from the local shelter, chosen a man who held her on the shower floor when she found out she had endometriosis, a condition that can lead to infertility, and told her, “It’s okay, there is more than one way to be a parent.”

She thought about the Facebook posts she had seen a few days earlier.

“It’s February 3,” her grandmother posted, “and we’re going in the right direction.”

“Any government employee who is afraid of transparency,” wrote the man who taught her AP government class in high school, “is a criminal!”

Cooper knew the people in her life meant well, but she wanted her future to be different from theirs. She had grown up watching her family struggle as her mother lost one job, then another, then another. She was just a few months shy of her graduate degree and close to a promotion that could nearly double her salary. Even $50,000 or $60,000 a year, she thought, could help get her a house a few counties over, with better schools.

 

For now, she and her husband lived in Baldwin, a village of about 1,000 people where the high school track is made of cracked cement and weeds. They had purchased their home because it was cheap, less than $150,000, and close to their families, who could help with child care.

It takes three minutes to drive past Baldwin’s one post office, one bar, and one bowling alley, which also serves pancakes and omelets for breakfast. The median household income is about $23,000, according to the most recent American Community Survey, making it among the poorest towns in Michigan. In the winter, locals ice fish from shanties warmed by propane heaters and drive snowmobiles to bars. In the summer, they drive lawn mowers to gas stations, though Cooper said she would never do that.

Most people in Baldwin like President Donald Trump; more than 62 percent in Lake County, which includes the town, voted for him in November and in 2020. But people don’t talk about it. Politics here, at least until recently, felt removed from everyday worries.

Now it was in her living room, as she turned to her husband and burst into tears. “I think I’m getting fired,” she said.

Getting fired meant she would no longer have health insurance, including the 12 weeks of paid maternity leave that was a guaranteed benefit of her federal service. Also gone would be the promotion that would allow her to plan for the kids she so badly wanted to have.

She wondered if Trump was going to break his promise to make IVF free, and if it would even matter if he did.

Her husband sat beside her and squeezed her hand, still processing. Together they had been counting. Sixteen days until they could try again. Twenty eight until she could take her next test.

After she was sexually assaulted at 16, Cooper had sworn she would never be caught unprepared. But here she was. Betrayed by her body, which would not cooperate. Betrayed by her family, who supported firing federal workers like her. And, perhaps most painfully, betrayed by herself.

Cooper did not want to think about what happened three months prior but her mind went there anyway. To the voting booth in Baldwin’s town hall, where she filled out every part of the ballot before turning to the box that said “Presidential.” She recalled staring at it for 15 minutes.

She did not want to vote for Trump. Cooper hated what he said about women and hated how he treated them. Her family always said the women who accused the president of sexual assault had either made it up or deserved it. Cooper heard them and kept her own experience a secret, thinking that they might feel the same way about her.

She voted for Joe Biden in 2020, her first time casting a ballot in a presidential election. But life felt more complicated these days. Her mortgage was too expensive, groceries were nearly $400 a month, and one single cycle of IVF could cost more than 10 percent of her annual household income.

Trump, at a campaign stop an hour and a half south of her, had promised to make IVF free. She knew that from a video clip she saw on TikTok. And she had believed him.

She also believed him when he said that Project 2025, the conservative blueprint for the next Republican administration that suggested mass cuts to the federal workforce, was not his plan.

So Cooper filled in the bubble next to his name, thinking of the daughter she wanted. She planned to name her Charlotte.

The days after she got the text passed quickly. A call from the district ranger, who is in charge of the Forest Service in Baldwin, telling her to pack up her things. A box of printed performance reviews and tree identification books and a framed picture from her wedding last fall under a willow tree. A text from her co-worker who brought candy to refill the jar at her desk but arrived to find it, and her, gone.

Four days after Trump fired her, Cooper was in bed with her husband. She picked up her phone and saw the news.

There was a new executive order to expand access to IVF. She read the White House fact sheet, which talked about Trump’s request for policy recommendations to reduce costs of the service.

But it still wasn’t free, and she was out of a job and out of a plan.

“Delivering on promises for American families,” read the White House’s announcement.

“That’s bulls---”, she recalled thinking, and put down her phone.

 

If only there was an easy and accessible way for people to check a well-known person’s credibility. One can dream.

Eat shit, cooper

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I already answered that- because “local interests often (or usually, really) transcend national party alignment.” People who live in the same community of interest generally agree on the major local economic and social issues, irrespective of their views on national political issues. 

For example, most voters in the Big Country, regardless of party, agree that orphaned oil wells are a problem. 

Different elections, different electorates. 

This is precisely the question you leave begging. Why should it match when the issues faced by the nation or state as a whole do not encompass or reflect the interests of local communities in their interactions with the rest of the state and nation?

That’s the question you’ve been refusing to respond to for 20 years. “Why should they match?” In response,  you just continue chanting your mantra, “they should match.”

I presume the founding fathers considered a parliamentary system with the head of the executive picked by the representatives of the people. I also presume that in their wisdom they felt the executive should be independent from the legislative branch for the reasons that include the ones you have mentioned.
 

Sounds like ag with kids would be more comfortable moving to Canada or the UK. or maybe he is happy with minority rule and understands gerrymandering is the best way to get it.

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BALDWIN, Mich. — Ryleigh Cooper exhaled as she slid onto the couch after nine hours of work for the U.S. Forest Service, still covered in the blue paint she used to mark trees for local loggers. Then she got the text.

“I hate to be the bearer of bad news,” her union leader wrote.

It was the second Thursday in February, and a historic White House purge aimed at federal workers like Cooper was sweeping the country. But the headlines felt far away from her life in rural Michigan. She figured her job, with paychecks totaling about $40,000 a year, would be safe from the cost-cutting campaign led by President Donald Trump and billionaire Elon Musk.

Besides, motherhood was her most pressing concern. Cooper, 24, and her husband were trying to get pregnant, but the doctor said that IVF might be their best chance. Trump had promised to make it free. That is what she thought about in the voting booth.

Now she was staring at her phone, learning that probationary workers in the Forest Service were the next to be fired by his administration. Cooper would likely be one of them, her union head told her.

Her eyes watered. She knew it wasn’t personal. Every day brought new rumors of cuts, and her performance evaluation from last fall found her “fully successful” — the highest possible score. She reminded herself that she had done everything right: graduated college with a 3.5 GPA, finished her first semester of work toward a master’s degree in forestry with a 4.0, rescued two dogs and two cats from the local shelter, chosen a man who held her on the shower floor when she found out she had endometriosis, a condition that can lead to infertility, and told her, “It’s okay, there is more than one way to be a parent.”

She thought about the Facebook posts she had seen a few days earlier.

“It’s February 3,” her grandmother posted, “and we’re going in the right direction.”

“Any government employee who is afraid of transparency,” wrote the man who taught her AP government class in high school, “is a criminal!”

Cooper knew the people in her life meant well, but she wanted her future to be different from theirs. She had grown up watching her family struggle as her mother lost one job, then another, then another. She was just a few months shy of her graduate degree and close to a promotion that could nearly double her salary. Even $50,000 or $60,000 a year, she thought, could help get her a house a few counties over, with better schools.

 

For now, she and her husband lived in Baldwin, a village of about 1,000 people where the high school track is made of cracked cement and weeds. They had purchased their home because it was cheap, less than $150,000, and close to their families, who could help with child care.

It takes three minutes to drive past Baldwin’s one post office, one bar, and one bowling alley, which also serves pancakes and omelets for breakfast. The median household income is about $23,000, according to the most recent American Community Survey, making it among the poorest towns in Michigan. In the winter, locals ice fish from shanties warmed by propane heaters and drive snowmobiles to bars. In the summer, they drive lawn mowers to gas stations, though Cooper said she would never do that.

Most people in Baldwin like President Donald Trump; more than 62 percent in Lake County, which includes the town, voted for him in November and in 2020. But people don’t talk about it. Politics here, at least until recently, felt removed from everyday worries.

Now it was in her living room, as she turned to her husband and burst into tears. “I think I’m getting fired,” she said.

Getting fired meant she would no longer have health insurance, including the 12 weeks of paid maternity leave that was a guaranteed benefit of her federal service. Also gone would be the promotion that would allow her to plan for the kids she so badly wanted to have.

She wondered if Trump was going to break his promise to make IVF free, and if it would even matter if he did.

Her husband sat beside her and squeezed her hand, still processing. Together they had been counting. Sixteen days until they could try again. Twenty eight until she could take her next test.

After she was sexually assaulted at 16, Cooper had sworn she would never be caught unprepared. But here she was. Betrayed by her body, which would not cooperate. Betrayed by her family, who supported firing federal workers like her. And, perhaps most painfully, betrayed by herself.

Cooper did not want to think about what happened three months prior but her mind went there anyway. To the voting booth in Baldwin’s town hall, where she filled out every part of the ballot before turning to the box that said “Presidential.” She recalled staring at it for 15 minutes.

She did not want to vote for Trump. Cooper hated what he said about women and hated how he treated them. Her family always said the women who accused the president of sexual assault had either made it up or deserved it. Cooper heard them and kept her own experience a secret, thinking that they might feel the same way about her.

She voted for Joe Biden in 2020, her first time casting a ballot in a presidential election. But life felt more complicated these days. Her mortgage was too expensive, groceries were nearly $400 a month, and one single cycle of IVF could cost more than 10 percent of her annual household income.

Trump, at a campaign stop an hour and a half south of her, had promised to make IVF free. She knew that from a video clip she saw on TikTok. And she had believed him.

She also believed him when he said that Project 2025, the conservative blueprint for the next Republican administration that suggested mass cuts to the federal workforce, was not his plan.

So Cooper filled in the bubble next to his name, thinking of the daughter she wanted. She planned to name her Charlotte.

The days after she got the text passed quickly. A call from the district ranger, who is in charge of the Forest Service in Baldwin, telling her to pack up her things. A box of printed performance reviews and tree identification books and a framed picture from her wedding last fall under a willow tree. A text from her co-worker who brought candy to refill the jar at her desk but arrived to find it, and her, gone.

Four days after Trump fired her, Cooper was in bed with her husband. She picked up her phone and saw the news.

There was a new executive order to expand access to IVF. She read the White House fact sheet, which talked about Trump’s request for policy recommendations to reduce costs of the service.

But it still wasn’t free, and she was out of a job and out of a plan.

“Delivering on promises for American families,” read the White House’s announcement.

“That’s bulls---”, she recalled thinking, and put down her phone.

 

Really surprised that Jeff Bezos let this one get published.

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Posted
13 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Kind of is worth noting that she points out Bozo's refrain that Dems have taken minority votes for granted.  Still, as bad as Dems have been R's have been worse, and Trump's brand of R, worse still.

This “dems are also bad” shit is really starting to infuriate me. It’s a big tent, why do so many who lean left demand that the part perfectly align with all of their beliefs? Some say the party is too left (trans rights, defund the police, open borders), others say it’s too far right (no universal healthcare, too close to Wall Street, support for wars). Why can’t we determine this stuff in primaries then back the candidate who might not be perfectly aligned to each of your personal beliefs, but they check some boxes and recognize there is good on some maybe even most issues? The republican will almost always check no boxes (even in trans rights many dems think it’s being pushed too hard but few would agree to vilify them or to abolish gender affirming care altogether). Gaza is the perfect example, I’ve bitched enough in the other thread, but it’s abhorrent to me that the protest voters on that one issue didn’t give a single shit about the people here in the US who are now suffering in very predictable ways by letting a true monster take office. Republicans have similar basic dynamics, some are RINOs or “I’m not a fan of Trumps personality,” but they will always back the candidate because they see it as better in general that the opposition. For as stupid as many of them are they at least see big picture shit like that while the left has way too many self righteous tools who are cool with the suffering of others if the candidate isn’t perfect on everything.
 

End rant, back on topic, everyone of these examples in this thread are people who will still vote for Trump and will probably support him becoming a dictator because at least he isn’t woke amirite?

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1 hour ago, troph said:

Same i’ll never go back. But to be able to listen in on their convos would be gold Jerry!

Yep, I am already seeing it as one of them is part of USAID and they are losing their mind.   It's glorious

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2 minutes ago, 1978horn said:

Yep, I am already seeing it as one of them is part of USAID and they are losing their mind.   It's glorious

This makes me happy.

Anytime a self-righteous fuck suffers, I enjoy it.

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1 hour ago, Fastbreak said:


The Golden Trump statue bothered me more…

—You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them

 

1 hour ago, 1978horn said:


This, I want to see the evangelicals explain this one. I used to be part of all that shit. Very curious to see how people I know still in that shit react.

Dude....American evangelical "Christians" are literally 180 degrees opposed to....Christianity.

Kindness to the least of these?  That's WOKE, and should be fought at every turn, using deadly force if necessary.

Don't worship golden idols?  Whatever, suck it, libtard -- Donny is my god!

It's fucking amazing.  If you redact names, and put down the list of attributes/characteristics of the Antichrist, then match them up against unnamed historical figures, you're going to check almost every box for one of them.  Then pull back the tape of the name and see DJT.  And they have LITERALLY elevated him above God and Christ.  It's fucking amazing.

1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

Now she was staring at her phone, learning that probationary workers in the Forest Service were the next to be fired by his administration. Cooper would likely be one of them, her union head told her.

Her eyes watered. She knew it wasn’t personal. Every day brought new rumors of cuts, and her performance evaluation from last fall found her “fully successful” — the highest possible score. She reminded herself that she had done everything right:

No, Ryleigh....you did NOT "do everything right."  You voted like a stupid, vindictive cunt.  And you got a government of, by, and for, stupid vindictive cunts.  You WANTED people to get fucked over.  You WANTED people to suffer.  The only problem you have with the current state of affairs -- the ONLY problem -- is that now you are one of the people getting fucked over.

Get.  Fucked.

Also, the news that your stupid cunt self likely won't be able to reproduce is an additional silver lining here.  We don't need you raising another generation of stupid cunts.

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1 hour ago, troph said:

Same i’ll never go back. But to be able to listen in on their convos would be gold Jerry!

Why?  They already treat religion and facts like a salad bar, take what they want and leave the rest.  Heck, @Ag with kids still cannot be bothered to respond to a comment he made despite numerous attempts and sources cited.  Same tactic Johnny Sack uses.

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12 hours ago, Ag with kids said:

That's not my position in any way.

If Maine votes 75-25 Democrat, then the people of Maine should get somewhere near 75-25 Democratic representation in Congress (and even their state legislation).

The top bold is the smooth brain comment you keep making - but you never attempt to dhow how in the world “Maine should get 75-25 democratic representation” will be implemented.

You never say how this comes to pass.  A decree of the governor?  Altered voting machines?  A wish of a genie in a bottle?  Elizabeth Montgomery twitching her nose?

Tell us how somehow the number of elected congressman will be changed due to a presidential election vote, and why that won’t be an unconstitutional  restriction on voters rights to vote for their local congressional candidate, regardless of any presidential campaign selection choice.

If you can’t, shut the fuck up and don’t post anymore on this subject.

 

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BALDWIN, Mich. — Ryleigh Cooper exhaled as she slid onto the couch after nine hours of work for the U.S. Forest Service, still covered in the blue paint she used to mark trees for local loggers. Then she got the text.

“I hate to be the bearer of bad news,” her union leader wrote.

It was the second Thursday in February, and a historic White House purge aimed at federal workers like Cooper was sweeping the country. But the headlines felt far away from her life in rural Michigan. She figured her job, with paychecks totaling about $40,000 a year, would be safe from the cost-cutting campaign led by President Donald Trump and billionaire Elon Musk.

Besides, motherhood was her most pressing concern. Cooper, 24, and her husband were trying to get pregnant, but the doctor said that IVF might be their best chance. Trump had promised to make it free. That is what she thought about in the voting booth.

Now she was staring at her phone, learning that probationary workers in the Forest Service were the next to be fired by his administration. Cooper would likely be one of them, her union head told her.

Her eyes watered. She knew it wasn’t personal. Every day brought new rumors of cuts, and her performance evaluation from last fall found her “fully successful” — the highest possible score. She reminded herself that she had done everything right: graduated college with a 3.5 GPA, finished her first semester of work toward a master’s degree in forestry with a 4.0, rescued two dogs and two cats from the local shelter, chosen a man who held her on the shower floor when she found out she had endometriosis, a condition that can lead to infertility, and told her, “It’s okay, there is more than one way to be a parent.”

She thought about the Facebook posts she had seen a few days earlier.

“It’s February 3,” her grandmother posted, “and we’re going in the right direction.”

“Any government employee who is afraid of transparency,” wrote the man who taught her AP government class in high school, “is a criminal!”

Cooper knew the people in her life meant well, but she wanted her future to be different from theirs. She had grown up watching her family struggle as her mother lost one job, then another, then another. She was just a few months shy of her graduate degree and close to a promotion that could nearly double her salary. Even $50,000 or $60,000 a year, she thought, could help get her a house a few counties over, with better schools.

 

For now, she and her husband lived in Baldwin, a village of about 1,000 people where the high school track is made of cracked cement and weeds. They had purchased their home because it was cheap, less than $150,000, and close to their families, who could help with child care.

It takes three minutes to drive past Baldwin’s one post office, one bar, and one bowling alley, which also serves pancakes and omelets for breakfast. The median household income is about $23,000, according to the most recent American Community Survey, making it among the poorest towns in Michigan. In the winter, locals ice fish from shanties warmed by propane heaters and drive snowmobiles to bars. In the summer, they drive lawn mowers to gas stations, though Cooper said she would never do that.

Most people in Baldwin like President Donald Trump; more than 62 percent in Lake County, which includes the town, voted for him in November and in 2020. But people don’t talk about it. Politics here, at least until recently, felt removed from everyday worries.

Now it was in her living room, as she turned to her husband and burst into tears. “I think I’m getting fired,” she said.

Getting fired meant she would no longer have health insurance, including the 12 weeks of paid maternity leave that was a guaranteed benefit of her federal service. Also gone would be the promotion that would allow her to plan for the kids she so badly wanted to have.

She wondered if Trump was going to break his promise to make IVF free, and if it would even matter if he did.

Her husband sat beside her and squeezed her hand, still processing. Together they had been counting. Sixteen days until they could try again. Twenty eight until she could take her next test.

After she was sexually assaulted at 16, Cooper had sworn she would never be caught unprepared. But here she was. Betrayed by her body, which would not cooperate. Betrayed by her family, who supported firing federal workers like her. And, perhaps most painfully, betrayed by herself.

Cooper did not want to think about what happened three months prior but her mind went there anyway. To the voting booth in Baldwin’s town hall, where she filled out every part of the ballot before turning to the box that said “Presidential.” She recalled staring at it for 15 minutes.

She did not want to vote for Trump. Cooper hated what he said about women and hated how he treated them. Her family always said the women who accused the president of sexual assault had either made it up or deserved it. Cooper heard them and kept her own experience a secret, thinking that they might feel the same way about her.

She voted for Joe Biden in 2020, her first time casting a ballot in a presidential election. But life felt more complicated these days. Her mortgage was too expensive, groceries were nearly $400 a month, and one single cycle of IVF could cost more than 10 percent of her annual household income.

Trump, at a campaign stop an hour and a half south of her, had promised to make IVF free. She knew that from a video clip she saw on TikTok. And she had believed him.

She also believed him when he said that Project 2025, the conservative blueprint for the next Republican administration that suggested mass cuts to the federal workforce, was not his plan.

So Cooper filled in the bubble next to his name, thinking of the daughter she wanted. She planned to name her Charlotte.

The days after she got the text passed quickly. A call from the district ranger, who is in charge of the Forest Service in Baldwin, telling her to pack up her things. A box of printed performance reviews and tree identification books and a framed picture from her wedding last fall under a willow tree. A text from her co-worker who brought candy to refill the jar at her desk but arrived to find it, and her, gone.

Four days after Trump fired her, Cooper was in bed with her husband. She picked up her phone and saw the news.

There was a new executive order to expand access to IVF. She read the White House fact sheet, which talked about Trump’s request for policy recommendations to reduce costs of the service.

But it still wasn’t free, and she was out of a job and out of a plan.

“Delivering on promises for American families,” read the White House’s announcement.

“That’s bulls---”, she recalled thinking, and put down her phone.

 

Aw don’t worry, when Gilead comes, they’ll make the barren women Aunts. So that’s kinda like being a mother 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Leopards continue gnawing on my parents face. Nearly 3 weeks after I told them they need to look in the mirror before continuing our relationship, my dad reached out with a mundane question about the boys, while my mother sent my wife an over-the-top praiseful message about being a good mom, etc.

I responded that nothing had changed in the last few weeks, and tacked on an article about the NPS being dismantled and how I would be lucky to take my kids to the national parks like my parents took me.

My father responded that they were very saddened by the degradation of our relationship and that mother couldn't even send a loving message without being chastised for it.

I let him know they could make me out to be a jerk all they wanted and that loving one another isn't the issue. I am still ready to talk when they want to have a real, albeit uncomfortable discussion about how we got to this point.

Pardon me for sharing all this, but I find it somewhat cathartic.

Catharsis is okay.  As I've mentioned on this or another thread, my 80-year-old father has become a Trumper.   But even as some dementia is setting in he still knows well enough to not talk politics.  And, he's my dad.  So I don't envision ever getting to a point of cutting out my parents.  Also, my mom ditched the Republican party during G.W.'s presidency, and has become a full Dem since, so I think she helps keeping him in check.

Are your parents all Trumpy in your face?  What behavior is potentially stopping you from "continuing the relationship"?

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It's just a shame that there isn't some sort of public record of Trump's previous business dealings that could have been used a guide for what to expect.  Somebody should really create that.  

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33 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Why?  They already treat religion and facts like a salad bar, take what they want and leave the rest.  Heck, @Ag with kids still cannot be bothered to respond to a comment he made despite numerous attempts and sources cited.  Same tactic Johnny Sack uses.

gold statute, gold jerry... proof maybe we are less funny before finishing our morning coffee, I dunno.

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36 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Leopards continue gnawing on my parents face. Nearly 3 weeks after I told them they need to look in the mirror before continuing our relationship, my dad reached out with a mundane question about the boys, while my mother sent my wife an over-the-top praiseful message about being a good mom, etc.

I responded that nothing had changed in the last few weeks, and tacked on an article about the NPS being dismantled and how I would be lucky to take my kids to the national parks like my parents took me.

My father responded that they were very saddened by the degradation of our relationship and that mother couldn't even send a loving message without being chastised for it.

I let him know they could make me out to be a jerk all they wanted and that loving one another isn't the issue. I am still ready to talk when they want to have a real, albeit uncomfortable discussion about how we got to this point.

Pardon me for sharing all this, but I find it somewhat cathartic.

Simple solution would be "New phone, who dis?"

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9 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Catharsis is okay.  As I've mentioned on this or another thread, my 80-year-old father has become a Trumper.   But even as some dementia is setting in he still knows well enough to not talk politics.  And, he's my dad.  So I don't envision ever getting to a point of cutting out my parents.  Also, my mom ditched the Republican party during G.W.'s presidency, and has become a full Dem since, so I think she helps keeping him in check.

Are your parents all Trumpy in your face?  What behavior is potentially stopping you from "continuing the relationship"?

They're generally not too overt about it in our presence. There are subtle comments here and there, but historically there was a bit more of what I would describe as casual racism. And seeing what they support, and the make-up of my family, that really rankles me. 

We have more or less ignored politics since we had a similar falling out around 2020ish, which was less of a deal with Covid and not having kids, so we weren't seeing each other anyway.

I don't expect to change their minds entirely, but I'd like them to at least sit down and have a genuine discussion about why previous behavior and current support of a racist president makes me hesitant to spend time with them. 

This entire time, I've been leaving the door open to have that discussion. It's up to them to accept the terms.

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44 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

Dude....American evangelical "Christians" are literally 180 degrees opposed to....Christianity.

Kindness to the least of these?  That's WOKE, and should be fought at every turn, using deadly force if necessary.

Don't worship golden idols?  Whatever, suck it, libtard -- Donny is my god!

It's fucking amazing.  If you redact names, and put down the list of attributes/characteristics of the Antichrist, then match them up against unnamed historical figures, you're going to check almost every box for one of them.  Then pull back the tape of the name and see DJT.  And they have LITERALLY elevated him above God and Christ.  It's fucking amazing.

No, Ryleigh....you did NOT "do everything right."  You voted like a stupid, vindictive cunt.  And you got a government of, by, and for, stupid vindictive cunts.  You WANTED people to get fucked over.  You WANTED people to suffer.  The only problem you have with the current state of affairs -- the ONLY problem -- is that now you are one of the people getting fucked over.

Get.  Fucked.

Also, the news that your stupid cunt self likely won't be able to reproduce is an additional silver lining here.  We don't need you raising another generation of stupid cunts.

I hate to tell you this Ryleigh, but it was personal.  MAGA and all the people who voted for them do personally hate federal workers and they personally think you are mooch and drain. And you voted for and with them. 
 

I encourage you to think of it this way. 

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

I presume the founding fathers considered a parliamentary system with the head of the executive picked by the representatives of the people. I also presume that in their wisdom they felt the executive should be independent from the legislative branch for the reasons that include the ones you have mentioned.
 

Sounds like ag with kids would be more comfortable moving to Canada or the UK. or maybe he is happy with minority rule and understands gerrymandering is the best way to get it.

The irony of it is that what he wants is the exact opposite of how the framers wanted it- local communities in districts of shared interest elected state legislators, and they chose senators and presidential electors.  Not that the framers had right, but they recognized and were very afraid of subordinating local interests to the kind of pervading factionalism AWK seems to have baked into his idea of what an ideal world “should” be like. 

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1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Probably shouldn't have voted for a rapist then for president, Abby. 

Yeah, I mean....it's just shocking to me that a proud misogynist who OPENLY BRAGS about grabbing women by the pussy, walking in on half-naked teenage girls, and found liable for lying about sexually assaulting women....did NOT turn out to be history's biggest crusader against misogyny, human trafficking, and sexual abuse of minors.  Who could have POSSIBLY seen that coming?

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The irony of it is that what he wants is the exact opposite of how the framers wanted it- local communities in districts of shared interest elected state legislators, and they chose senators and presidential electors.  Not that the framers had right, but they recognized and were very afraid of subordinating local interests to the kind of pervading factionalism AWK seems to have baked into his idea of what an ideal world “should” be like. 

This.  Voters and their communities should make parties, not vice versa.  AWK and the GQP stand for the proposition that the parties reign supreme, and they can and should pick their voters.

That's literally 180 degrees from the founding vision -- including the screaming red light warnings issues against AWK's approach -- the founders had.

Start with the communities, because they make the parties. 

We've cut community completely out.  Of everything.  Politics.  Society.  EVERYTHING.  ME ME ME ME ME ME.  It's the ME States of America, Gimme Mine, Fuck You, Individual is God, Community is EvilDevilCommunismSocialism.

This is what we get.  A fucking thunderdome of 350 million individuals, each competing against the other 349,999,999 in a fight to the death, so enveloped in that existential battle of hatred that they don't see the billionaire class bleeding them fucking dry.

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah, I mean....it's just shocking to me that a proud misogynist who OPENLY BRAGS about grabbing women by the pussy, walking in on half-naked teenage girls, and found liable for lying about sexually assaulting women....did NOT turn out to be history's biggest crusader against misogyny, human trafficking, and sexual abuse of minors.  Who could have POSSIBLY seen that coming?

The Party of Locker Room Talk.

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Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

MAGA is famously against sex pests that profit off of fake online universities. 

 

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Yeah...we don't need MORE of them....we already got the BEST one of those, and elected him POTUS.

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Can you guys take the gerrymandering discussion to another thread and leave this one to leopards eating faces? 

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That moment you lose your job at the VA and realize that your wife opening an Only Fans account will do nothing to solve your economic woes.

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I’m guessing that once again Elon is unaware that ATC has mandatory retirement at age 56.

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1 hour ago, hookem2010 said:

Leopards continue gnawing on my parents face. Nearly 3 weeks after I told them they need to look in the mirror before continuing our relationship, my dad reached out with a mundane question about the boys, while my mother sent my wife an over-the-top praiseful message about being a good mom, etc.

I responded that nothing had changed in the last few weeks, and tacked on an article about the NPS being dismantled and how I would be lucky to take my kids to the national parks like my parents took me.

My father responded that they were very saddened by the degradation of our relationship and that mother couldn't even send a loving message without being chastised for it.

I let him know they could make me out to be a jerk all they wanted and that loving one another isn't the issue. I am still ready to talk when they want to have a real, albeit uncomfortable discussion about how we got to this point.

Pardon me for sharing all this, but I find it somewhat cathartic.

For what it is worth, this is something I struggle with as well.   In the interest of the kids, I will still make an effort to see them.  But they don't seem to care to acknowledge that they continue to put my kids at risk and cause us unnecessary stress with their voting and while my kids appreciate the thoughtful gifts they recently sent, I am still remaining aloof.   I wish I wasn't so petty, but I suppose my exhaustion has made it easier.   They live in a different state but when I brought something up about how I was disappointed with how they voted and how it would create a greater burden on my family but they just defaulted to 'states rights' response, to which I responded it is funny how social security and medicare are not 'states rights' issues.   Imagine if Floridians had to pay for Floridians.  

 

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2 hours ago, 1978horn said:

Yep, I am already seeing it as one of them is part of USAID and they are losing their mind.   It's glorious

if he has any field experience he will be working for Samaritans purse or world vision pretty quick. So enjoy the meltdown now.

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4 minutes ago, Nivek said:

For what it is worth, this is something I struggle with as well.   In the interest of the kids, I will still make an effort to see them.  But they don't seem to care to acknowledge that they continue to put my kids at risk and cause us unnecessary stress with their voting and while my kids appreciate the thoughtful gifts they recently sent, I am still remaining aloof.   I wish I wasn't so petty, but I suppose my exhaustion has made it easier.   They live in a different state but when I brought something up about how I was disappointed with how they voted and how it would create a greater burden on my family but they just defaulted to 'states rights' response, to which I responded it is funny how social security and medicare are not 'states rights' issues.   Imagine if Floridians had to pay for Floridians.  

 

You aren't being petty 

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