The Leopards Eating Faces and Unlubed Dildo of Consequences Thread

[RDCanecutter 27013]

26 minutes ago, Slacks said:

 "Well technically...." they were right. (Maybe?)

I failed World History once, so I could be wrong, but I don't remember Russia and Germany pretending to support one another in WWI... Germany declared war on Russia, so it kinda worked.

Talking about post ww1-- the Communists and the Nazis hated each other... until they signed a treaty to split Poland, then the Germans barely had to keep anybody in the east while they hit all their western neighbors.

[mchookem 16874]

1 hour ago, GenXer said:

 

nobody cares you fucking morons. eat up!

[The Dog 44959]

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by The Dog

[GenXer 3606]

Eat shit, anna

[The Dog 44959]

 

[RDCanecutter 27013]

I've got $5 on the rednecks. They can't catch the Teslas, but they can ram the charging stations.

[GenXer 3606]

6 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Timing makes sense. Tweets drop between Christmas and new year’s when fewer eyes will pay attention.

[Pato del Muerto 53704]

29 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Talking about post ww1-- the Communists and the Nazis hated each other... until they signed a treaty to split Poland, then the Germans barely had to keep anybody in the east while they hit all their western neighbors.

I’m guessing Hitler had an idea that Russia wasn’t the most trustworthy partner, and would eventually realize that the German army was busy over in Western Europe, so Eastern Europe was there for the taking.  Hence his eventual breaking of the pact and inconvenient stretching of his army to a three front war, thinking he could blitz his way to Moscow. 

[The Dog 44959]

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 53704]

MAGA base thinks they have the power and leverage because they are the votes. That only works if they are willing to vote for democrats and get them elected in big enough numbers to make the kinds of changes that they don’t want made.  They also don’t seem to realize that they’ve already done the voting part, and each time the real power does what it can to move the power from the electorate to themselves via changes in law and various lifetime appointments.  They aren’t worried. 

[The Dog 44959]

 

 

15 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

MAGA base thinks they have the power and leverage because they are the votes. That only works if they are willing to vote for democrats and get them elected in big enough numbers to make the kinds of changes that they don’t want made.  They also don’t seem to realize that they’ve already done the voting part, and each time the real power does what it can to move the power from the electorate to themselves via changes in law and various lifetime appointments.  They aren’t worried. 

yup

 

[Stilicho 1433]

The similarities between this thread and the TexAgs thread over the last 48 hours are uncanny.

They are so very close to becoming self-aware. 

Edited 20 hours ago by Stilicho
grammatical dipshittery

[C-Man 27912]

Heather Cox Richardson wrote this yesterday: https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/

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December 27, 2024 (Friday)

Civil war has broken out within the MAGA Republicans. On the one side are the traditional MAGAs, who tend to be white, anti-immigrant, and less educated than the rest of the U.S. They believe that the modern government’s protection of equal rights for women and minorities has ruined America, and they tend to want to isolate the U.S. from the rest of the world. They make up Trump’s voting base.

On the other side are the new MAGAs who appear to have taken control of the incoming Trump administration. Led by Elon Musk, who bankrolled Trump’s campaign, the new MAGA wing is made up of billionaires, especially tech entrepreneurs, many of whom are themselves immigrants.

During the campaign, these two wings made common cause because they both want to destroy the current U.S. government, especially as President Joe Biden had been using it to strengthen American democracy. Traditional MAGA wants to get rid of the government that protects equality and replace it with one that enforces white male supremacy and Christianity. New MAGA—which some have started to call DOGE, after the Department of Government Efficiency run by Musk and pharmaceutical entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy—wants to get rid of the government that regulates business, especially technology, and protects American interests against competition from countries like China.

Their shared commitment to the destruction of the current government is about the only overlap between these two factions.

With the campaign over, traditional MAGA and DOGE are ripping apart. Trump sparked the fight when he announced on Sunday, December 22, that he would appoint Musk associate Sriram Krishnan, who was born in India, as a senior policy advisor on artificial intelligence.

On Monday, MAGA activist Laura Loomer criticized Trump’s choice of Krishnan. Loomer was in Trump’s inner circle until three months ago, when her anti-immigrant tirades made Trump campaign staff worry she would cost Trump votes and forced her out of his public schedule. Loomer noted that Krishnan wants to remove the cap on green cards for workers from certain countries.

Krishnan has also called for making it easier for skilled foreign workers to come to the U.S. on H-1B temporary visas. These programs are important to the technology sector, but critics say they enable companies to hire foreign workers at lower pay than U.S. workers, that H-1B workers are trapped in their jobs, and that wage theft is rampant in the H-1B program.

Loomer said those jobs “should be given to American STEM students.” Then she got to the heart of the matter, complaining that MAGA is getting left out of the new administration. She noted that “none of the tech executives who are meeting with Trump and getting appointed in his cabinet supported him in 2020 or during the 2024 primary.” She continued: “I feel like many of them are trying to get into Trump’s admin[istration] to enrich themselves and get contracts at [the] D[epartment] O[f] D[efense]. This is not America First Policy.”

When another tech entrepreneur and Trump appointee David Sacks defended Krishnan, Loomer made a series of racist posts, claiming among other things that: "Our country was built by white Europeans, actually. Not third-world invaders from India." She said, "It's not racist against Indians to want the original MAGA policies I voted for. I voted for a reduction in H-1B visas. Not an extension."

On Wednesday, December 25—Christmas, a major holiday for MAGA supporters—Musk took a stand against Loomer and the MAGAs. He posted on X that the U.S. needs twice the number of engineers it has, and welcomed foreign engineers. “The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low,” he tweeted. “Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be. That enables the whole TEAM to win.”

Loomer responded: “Is DOGE real? Or is it a vanity project?” Others complained about the “Tech Bros” “hubris [and] arrogance with their flippant, condescending, and elitist responses to legitimate criticisms of the H1B1 program.” Still others pointed out that there were big layoffs in tech this year and asked why they weren’t getting rehired if there was such a desperate need for workers.

Musk posted: “Investing in Americans is actually hard. Really hard. It costs money and time and effort to make a person productive. It’s a short term net loss. It’s much easier to bring in skilled workers who might not do quite a good a job [sic], but will work for a fraction of the cost and be happy just to be here.”

Loomer responded: “The elephant in the room is that [Musk], who is not MAGA and never has been, is a total f*cking drag on the Trump transition. He’s a stage 5 clinger who over stayed his welcome at Mar a Lago in an effort to become Trump’s side piece and be the point man for all of his accomplices in big Tech to slither in to Mar a Lago.” [sic]

Musk called Loomer a troll, and she responded that “Telling the truth isn’t trolling… You bought your way into MAGA 5 minutes ago…. We all know you only donated your money so you could influence immigration policy and protect your buddy Xi JinPing.”

Thursday everything broke open. Ramaswamy, who was born in Ohio to parents who immigrated to America from India, posted on X an indictment of American culture that seemed a direct assault on MAGA Republicans, who have been vocal about their disdain for education.

Ramaswamy posted that tech companies hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers rather than native-born Americans because “American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long…. A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers.” He called for “[m]ore math tutoring, fewer sleepovers. More weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons. More books, less TV. More creating, less ‘chillin.’ More extracurriculars, less ‘hanging out at the mall.’”

“If you grow up aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve,” he warned. “‘Normalcy’ doesn’t cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our a**es handed to us by China.” He called for America to embrace “a new golden era,” but warned it was possible “only if our culture fully wakes up. A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy; excellence over mediocrity; nerdiness over conformity; hard work over laziness. That’s the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood & just wishing (or legislating) alternative hiring practices into existence.”

With that, the fat was in the fire. MAGA dragged Ramaswamy, with even former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley retorting: “There is nothing wrong with American workers or American culture. All you have to do is look at the border and see how many want what we have. We should be investing and prioritizing in Americans, not foreign workers.” Haley ran for president against Trump but ultimately endorsed him. She is herself the child of Indian immigrants.

Loomer also hit back against Musk, posting: “Is DOGE a way to ‘cut spending’ or REDIRECT the spending toward the pet projects of tech bro billionaires? It’s looking like the latter, T[o] B[e] H[onest].” She continued: “‘Hey, let’s convince the peasants that we are saving them money as we enrich ourselves!’” Another right-wing poster wondered: “How did DOGE go from ‘let’s cut wasteful government spending’ to ‘here’s why we need to import more immigrants’ almost overnight?”

When Musk appeared to limit Loomer’s ability to use X, she posted: “I have always been America First and a die hard supporter of President Trump and I believe that promises made should be promises kept. Donald Trump promised to remove the H1B visa program and I support his policy. Now, as one of Trump’s biggest supporters, I’m having my free speech silenced by a tech billionaire for simply questioning the tech oligarchy.” Other right-wing accounts accused Musk of censoring them, too, and racist anti-immigrant sentiments flowed freely.

On Friday, when cartoonist and right-wing commenter Scott Adams posted that MAGA was “taking a page from Democrats on how to lose elections while feeling good about themselves,” Musk agreed and added: “And those contemptible fools must be removed from the Republican Party, root and stem.”

Loomer commented that Musk “is now referring to MAGA as ‘contemptible fools.’... The Trump base is being replaced by Big Tech executives. So sad to see this.” She tagged Trump and added “I feel so sad for MAGA.” Meanwhile, other MAGA supporters on X piled on Musk, complaining that he had not paid them, as promised, for their participation in his “free speech” petition during the campaign.

By today, key Trump ally Steve Bannon, a central figure in MAGA, had taken to another right-wing social media platform to warn his supporters that Musk is showing his “true colors” and to demand that the H-1B visa program be “zeroed-out.” Another right-wing influencer, Jack Posobiec, tweeted: “Today was the day we found out who is getting rich by screwing over the American worker.”

Trump did not weigh in on the fight but, in what appeared to be intended to be a private communication to Musk, wrote on his social media site: “Where are you? When are you coming to the ‘Center of the Universe,’ Mar-a-Lago. Bill Gates asked to come, tonight. We miss you and x! New Year’s Eve is going to be AMAZING!!! DJT.” (According to Aaron Pellish and Alayna Treene of CNN, “x” here likely refers to Musk’s son X Æ A-Xii.)

Why does this all matter? Because while Trump’s people keep insisting he won in a landslide and has a mandate that he will put in place on day one, his fragile coalition is splintering even before he takes office.

Trump won less than 50% of the vote. Despite their slim victory, the Republican Party was already in a civil war between MAGA and establishment Republicans who are fed up with the MAGAs who threaten to burn down the government and almost a century of international diplomacy: just a week ago, Senate Republicans were publicly complaining about the dysfunctional “sh*t show” and “fiasco” in the House.

Now, with Trump not even in office yet, the two factions of Trump’s MAGA base—which, indeed, have opposing interests—are at war.

 

[Biff Tannen 46312]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I’m guessing Hitler had an idea that Russia wasn’t the most trustworthy partner, and would eventually realize that the German army was busy over in Western Europe, so Eastern Europe was there for the taking.  Hence his eventual breaking of the pact and inconvenient stretching of his army to a three front war, thinking he could blitz his way to Moscow. 

Oh it’s a bit cold, it’s a bit cold, it’s a bit cold!

[speed817 20071]

Trump has been using immigrant labor for decades. They are doing jobs nobody in the US really wants to do. Take his wife for example.

[The Dog 44959]

 

[Hefeweizen 5505]

Always bet on the money.  Leon and the tech bros own the government now.

[Hank Kingsley 21881]

Yes, Nikki, let's "invest in our education" by getting rid of the DoE, banning books, focusing on bullshit trans hysteria, revising history books, and keeping America and schools as dangerous as humanly possible by having zero gun control. Cunt. 

 

 

[hornmpa96 2675]

2 hours ago, speed817 said:

Trump has been using immigrant labor for decades. They are doing jobs nobody in the US really wants to do. Take his wife for example.

She’s been quiet quitting that job for about a decade now.

[DixonHur 11977]

6 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

She’s been quiet quitting that job for about a decade now.

Still cashing them checks tho...

[BrickHorn 18499]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

Nikki Haley knocks it out of the park again! America doesn’t need H-1B visas to maintain our spot as the world’s leading innovator in the high-tech information economy. We have more than enough native born workers capable of learning the sophisticated technical skills necessary to *checks notes* …work in a tire factory.

Edited 16 hours ago by BrickHorn

[The Dog 44959]

 

[Auto Driller 2587]

The official party line is that the MAGA base needs to fall in line and be happy with whatever they get. We’ll see how it works out.

[Francisco 2.0 32714]

17 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

The official party line is that the MAGA base needs to fall in line and be happy with whatever they get. We’ll see how it works out.

 

Oh, they will.   There will be some new shiny object (trans people, brown people who come to American to become trans, litterboxes in schools,  you get the idea) that will force the base to re-focus.  

 

EDIT: And Ole' Ron clarifies the point:

 

 

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Francisco 2.0

[Gatorubet 30904]

7 hours ago, GenXer said:

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Nobody said anything on the campaign trail about attacking legal immigrants or tossing out H-1B employees. 

[Mez2 4049]

11 hours ago, GenXer said:

This revenge of the nerds reboot is lit

 

 

[Mez2 4049]

7 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

 

[mchookem 16874]

7 hours ago, GenXer said:

Eat shit, anna

[softlynow 1900]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

 

He’s not wrong in the sense that most MAGA aren’t even aware of this fight. The very online folks know, but that group is only a small part of the “informed voter” part of the electorate.

[NorthLoop 14624]

I'm enjoying this as much as yall are, but let's be honest, come election time it won't matter. Tampons in bathrooms or some other made up bullshit will be all that it takes to unify that shitty fucking party. 

[pyrohornIII 4854]

The problem the Republicans have is how to educate our populace enough to work hi tech jobs, but keep them dumb enough to keep pulling the lever for the R's.

[Captainant 28645]

7 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

I'm enjoying this as much as yall are, but let's be honest, come election time it won't matter. Tampons in bathrooms or some other made up bullshit will be all that it takes to unify that shitty fucking party. 

It really is remarkable how little it takes for them to turn off their critical thinking. I've seen it all over surly for years, growing in my family and in laws, and it's crazy how bad it is professionally. 

Less so politically at work with turning off critical thinking, but some folks just forget their basic fucking skills and troubleshooting whenever a critical issue hits. It's like they revert back to an idiot child that believes whoever talked to them last. And these are fucking senior managers and directors. 

Our country has gone backwards and made it acceptable to be fucking dumbass without an original thought in your head 

[Bullneck 19676]

43 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It really is remarkable how little it takes for them to turn off their critical thinking. I've seen it all over surly for years, growing in my family and in laws, and it's crazy how bad it is professionally. 

Less so politically at work with turning off critical thinking, but some folks just forget their basic fucking skills and troubleshooting whenever a critical issue hits. It's like they revert back to an idiot child that believes whoever talked to them last. And these are fucking senior managers and directors. 

Our country has gone backwards and made it acceptable to be fucking dumbass without an original thought in your head 

Somewhere between these two things America convinced itself it was OK to be stupid and you'd still get what you want out of life.

[RDCanecutter 27013]

12 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Somewhere between these two things America convinced itself it was OK to be stupid and you'd still get what you want out of life.

Always worked for me.

[aggie08 21876]

8 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

I'm enjoying this as much as yall are, but let's be honest, come election time it won't matter. Tampons in bathrooms or some other made up bullshit will be all that it takes to unify that shitty fucking party. 

"You're not going to believe what they're doing in California. More after the break. Thank you for watching Fox News."

[Slacks 7135]

21 hours ago, The Dog said:

MOAR

 

5 Leopards and a DJ Horn.

🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆

[Slacks 7135]

21 hours ago, GenXer said:

 

The faces now realize they are faces and not leopards. Sorry, Face, you are not a leopard and you shall be eaten.

5 Leopards.

[Slacks 7135]

20 hours ago, C-Man said:

 

Leopards have faces, too!

[wildcat09 29624]

19 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I’m guessing Hitler had an idea that Russia wasn’t the most trustworthy partner, and would eventually realize that the German army was busy over in Western Europe, so Eastern Europe was there for the taking.  Hence his eventual breaking of the pact and inconvenient stretching of his army to a three front war, thinking he could blitz his way to Moscow. 

You’d be wrong. Hitler always intended to violate the treaty, Stalin was so up his own ass believing they’d become friends that he refused to believe reports from his own men when the Germans launched Barbarossa.

[Slacks 7135]

20 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Talking about post ww1-- the Communists and the Nazis hated each other... until they signed a treaty to split Poland, then the Germans barely had to keep anybody in the east while they hit all their western neighbors.

Ah.... well, I suppose MAGA and Republicans could sign an agreement not to be greedy and self-serving so that they can both survive...

OH, wait. That is exactly what they did and they are both bitching about it right now before even taking their seats.

They're gonna eat each other over 4 years. The rest of us just have to make sure we don't get invaded by an actual foreign military actor.

 

El Leon is gonna fuck around and accidentally save America.

[Slacks 7135]

20 hours ago, GenXer said:

Eat shit, anna

In the words of NWA.... 

"We all said, 'FUCK YOU, BITCH!' and kept going."

1 Leopard

[Slacks 7135]

19 hours ago, Stilicho said:

The similarities between this thread and the TexAgs thread over the last 48 hours are uncanny.

They are so very close to becoming self-aware. 

oooh, we're going to replicate a second fun reddit....

I'd be happy to hand out Leopards and Aware-wolfs