Planes, Trains, and Auto-Massage Parlors: The 2028 Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg thread

[Red Five 40820]

10 hours ago, Red Five said:

Who was elected President on Tuesday.

I know, but to say someone should be disqualified from ever running for potus because they ate in a restaurant, after what just happened... I'm just not in the mood for that and won't be for the next four years.

edit: quoted myself and not Dennison. 

Edited November 11 by Red Five
stupidity

[StassneyHorn 6573]

If you asked 10 people about French Laundry, 9 people would say no I have Whirlpool/GE.

[wildcat09 29337]

18 hours ago, safe sex said:

Pritzker seems p cool. The people love a billionaire.

Pritzker should be the early favorite to be the next nominee. He's got the billionaire advantage and the big ol' boy advantage and has done a good job in the current gig. He's also been substantially more progressive than Newsom, but won't come with the "California liberal" baggage. Yeah Illinois politician has its own baggage, but it's not as big a drag in national elections. 

[David Dennison 18837]

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Pritzker should be the early favorite to be the next nominee. He's got the billionaire advantage and the big ol' boy advantage and has done a good job in the current gig. He's also been substantially more progressive than Newsom, but won't come with the "California liberal" baggage. Yeah Illinois politician has its own baggage, but it's not as big a drag in national elections. 

Fuck and no.

[closetohumping 17431]

On 11/9/2024 at 11:41 PM, PRONG HORN said:

 

If by some miracle California turns the corner, maybe they'll have a chance.  

 

 

Turn the corner and become the third largest world economy?

 

 

back on topic, this ticket has no chance

[EuroHorn 3250]

All those people and companies that left California might just leave the country

Edited November 11 by EuroHorn

[David Dennison 18837]

I like how people think California is struggling. It's adorable.

[StassneyHorn 6573]

Well we all know Chicago is the true American city and anyone who can manage the city politics will understand the challenge nationally. He’s tan, ready, and rested.

 

[Bateshorn 9926]

Gavin Newson: Liberal California Values, plus Bill Clinton's sexual peccadillos. 

What could possibly go wrong? 

 

I'm just going to say it: Pritzker needs to go on Ozempic. The double standards Democrats are held to aren't fair, but they are real. 

Edited November 11 by Bateshorn

[StassneyHorn 6573]

It’s expected, so nothing about the pick is wrong.

[Hank Kingsley 20903]

The party apparatus is broken and still operates in the 20th century. Gotta re-build and modernize from the ground up first, and then a crop of candidates that make sense will start to appear. 

 

[StassneyHorn 6573]

Nah give us a fat Chicago guy. At least he’s jolly and not a fat asshole like Chris Christie

Edited November 11 by StassneyHorn

[David Dennison 18837]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

The party apparatus is broken and still operates in the 20th century. Gotta re-build and modernize from the ground up first, and then a crop of candidates that make sense will start to appear. 

We have a billionaire!

Take that MAGA!

[Red Five 40820]

6 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

plus Bill Clinton's sexual peccadillos. 

Maybe the dems can find someone who has raped women. That seems to be popular with over half of the electorate. That Harvey Weinsten just tells it like it is, you know? A real businessman.

I know, I know. It's gonna be a long four years. 

[Bateshorn 9926]

Just now, Red Five said:

Maybe the dems can find someone who has raped women. That seems to be popular with over half of the electorate. That Harvey Weinsten just tells it like it is, you know? A real businessman.

I know, I know. It's gonna be a long four years. 

I didn't create the double standard and it sucks. But here we are.

 

[David Dennison 18837]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Maybe the dems can find someone who has raped women. That seems to be popular with over half of the electorate. That Harvey Weinsten just tells it like it is, you know? A real businessman.

I know, I know. It's gonna be a long four years. 

Here's the reality for Democrats;

Woman: No

Gay: No

Black man: Maybe

White man: Definitely

 

[wildcat09 29337]

7 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Nah give us a fat Chicago guy. At least he’s jolly and not a fat asshole like Chris Christie

He's gotta stay fat to keep the benevolent mob boss look going.  

[Brisketexan 105036]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Here's the reality for Democrats;

Woman: No

Gay: No

Black man: Maybe

White man: Definitely

 

This.  Quit running trick plays.  Run the ball right up the fucking middle and pound out yardage.

It sucks that it's the reality, but reality is what it is.

[Bateshorn 9926]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  Quit running trick plays.  Run the ball right up the fucking middle and pound out yardage.

It sucks that it's the reality, but reality is what it is.

There is almost no situation where a "Pound the rock and run some clock, stupid" strategy isn't effective, either metaphorically or in reality. 

Edited November 11 by Bateshorn

[Gil Bang 25906]

I'm in pete's fan club, but no gheys and no women next round.  Straight, old, white guys only. 

[Red Five 40820]

11 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I'm in pete's fan club, but no gheys and no women next round.  Straight, old, white guys only. 

(flash forward to republicans winning in 2028 with a ticket of Mark Robinson/Lauren Boebert)

"Ok, ok, we need to diversify...."

[Underdog 28543]

1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

If you asked 10 people about French Laundry, 9 people would say no I have Whirlpool/GE.

But what about Tom Laundry? 

[David Dennison 18837]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

(flash forward to republicans winning in 2028 with a ticket of Mark Robinson/Lauren Boebert)

"Ok, ok, we need to diversify...."

IOKIYAR

[Mole 4330]

I still have no idea what French Laundry is. I’m assuming it’s some kind of high end escort service.

Also, while it breaks the newly reconfirmed intersectional rules for voting, celebrity is king in our idiocracy: Oprah is your answer. She needs to start questioning Trump’s citizenship tomorrow.

[Red Five 40820]

19 minutes ago, Mole said:

I still have no idea what French Laundry is. I’m assuming it’s some kind of high end escort service.

He ate in a restaurant during covid. It is the worst thing a candidate for office has ever done. 

[Incredulity 11643]

36 minutes ago, Red Five said:

He ate in a restaurant during covid. It is the worst thing a candidate for office has ever done. 

You left out it was during peak lockdowns when no one else could dine out and many thousands of other restaurants were shut down.

just a slight omission.

[Chad Fuck 17658]

50 minutes ago, Red Five said:

He ate in a restaurant during covid. It is the worst thing a candidate for office has ever done. 

It was incredibly tone deaf and clearly made a big negative impression on the middle ground folks he'd have to win over.  *

Edited November 11 by Chad Fuck
*Then again, it wasn't a rape conviction so he's still in the running apparently

[mchookem 16318]

um rape is now a qualifying act, not disqualifying. felon out front shoulda told ya.

[Incredulity 11643]

3 minutes ago, mchookem said:

um rape is now a qualifying act

 

Tan, rested and ready

[mchookem 16318]

yeah well i never voted for him either. and you just reinforced my point. thanks. 

Edited November 11 by mchookem

[bad_teammate 13185]

Pete being gay isn't the problem. Pete looking like a tiny chipmunk nerd is the massive, massive problem. It's probably better for him that he's gay, actually.

He needs to butch up.

- weight-gainer
- creatine
- Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe
- Jack3d original banned formula
- Pantera
- beard
- operator shades
- tank tops

Edited November 11 by bad_teammate

[aggie08 21481]

9 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Pete being gay isn't the problem. Pete looking like a tiny chipmunk nerd is the massive, massive problem. It's probably better for him that he's gay, actually.

He needs to butch up.

- weight-gainer
- creatine
- Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe
- Jack3d original banned formula
- Pantera
- beard
- operator shades
- tank tops

Oh man, it feels good to laugh again.

[Red Five 40820]

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

You left out it was during peak lockdowns when no one else could dine out and many thousands of other restaurants were shut down.

just a slight omission.

Oh no, I forgot to mention it was during peak covid. That's even worse!

Sorry, I'm not doing this. I'm done with having two sets of rule books. 

[Underdog 28543]

27 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Pete being gay isn't the problem. Pete looking like a tiny chipmunk nerd is the massive, massive problem. It's probably better for him that he's gay, actually.

He needs to butch up.

- weight-gainer
- creatine
- Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe
- Jack3d original banned formula
- Pantera
- beard
- operator shades
- tank tops

[Gatorubet 30183]

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Pete being gay isn't the problem. Pete looking like a tiny chipmunk nerd is the massive, massive problem. It's probably better for him that he's gay, actually.

He needs to butch up.

- weight-gainer
- creatine
- Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe
- Jack3d original banned formula
- Pantera
- beard
- operator shades
- tank tops

Negged.  You left out the obligatory Punisher shirt.

[gmr548 16575]

On 11/11/2024 at 8:25 AM, Bateshorn said:

There is almost no situation where a "Pound the rock and run some clock, stupid" strategy isn't effective, either metaphorically or in reality. 

When you're down a couple of scores in the fourth quarter, as one could argue this situation represents?

Reuben Gallego could be a name to watch.

[Bateshorn 9926]

51 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

When you're down a couple of scores in the fourth quarter, as one could argue this situation represents?

Reuben Gallego could be a name to watch.

I don’t think it’s the 4th quarter, we lost the game. Need to get ready for….fuck it ive lost interest in this metaphor
 

Definitely. If Gallego can get a little Mo, I can see him being a contender.

[CooterBrown 18001]

35 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Definitely. If Gallego can get a little Mo, I can see him being a contender.

Not white enough.

Anything other than a white hetero male isn't going to get votes from Middle America.  Everyone's brain broke with Obama. There's no recovery from that.

 

[bad_teammate 13185]

Guys like Obama can't win because Obama won.

Middle America would have absolutely no problem voting for a Mexican guy or a black guy if that guy was otherwise well-spoken, came across as normal, and had policies they liked. This doom-saying about identity politics is exhausting. Kamala Harris is a black-Indian woman and she did better than Biden was headed for.

I know we want to swaddle ourselves in a self-righteous blanket of fantasy about us individual liberals being enlightened clouds floating above a roiling sea of furious, incurable racism, but that's a little story in our vainglorious heads and not reality.

[YChang 3441]

16 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

Not white enough.

Anything other than a white hetero male isn't going to get votes from Middle America.  Everyone's brain broke with Obama. There's no recovery from that.

 

I'm on this train for the time being. Dems need to just win and if a white hetero dude like Gavin and Beshear gives the party the best chance then go with it.

[Aqua Buddha 14581]

On 11/11/2024 at 10:17 AM, David Dennison said:

Here's the reality for Democrats;

Woman: No

Gay: No

Black man: Maybe

White man: Definitely

 

Gretchen Whitmer would be the odds on favorite but I think the actual Democratic voters might have some pause about nominating a woman again.  That's unfair to Whitmer but it's not wrong.

That would leave Shapiro, Wes Moore, Brashears, and maybe Newsom.  Brashears would be the best bet between them.

[Hank Kingsley 20903]

I'd say there's a good chance that the Dem nominee in 2028 is someone not even on our radar at the moment. 

[Aqua Buddha 14581]

On 11/11/2024 at 10:45 AM, Gil Bang said:

I'm in pete's fan club, but no gheys and no women next round.  Straight, old, white guys only. 

Only white coastal liberals think Pete is viable.  Pete is easily the smartest person out there but even Pete knows him being gay is a complete non starter.

[Hank Kingsley 20903]

I'm with @bad_teammate on this one. 

Hillary lost because she is a Clinton. Kamala lost because she was tied to the Biden administration. I think the bigger issue than gender or race is being part of the establishment.  Obama was considered an outsider and fresh face to most of the electorate. I mean, he fucking won IOWA in 2008. 

Dems have to meet the moment in 2028 and truly give any viable candidate and opportunity to win. 

[TexArcher 37761]

This thread sucks.

Also, lol at there being an election in 2028.

You'll get Don, Jr as the next president, on the day Senior dies.

It's over.  Go home.

[David Dennison 18837]

16 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Gretchen Whitmer would be the odds on favorite but I think the actual Democratic voters might have some pause about nominating a woman again.  That's unfair to Whitmer but it's not wrong.

That would leave Shapiro, Wes Moore, Brashears, and maybe Newsom.  Brashears would be the best bet between them.

Might want to brush up on that name, tho.

[G650 14229]

11 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Only white coastal liberals think Pete is viable.  Pete is easily the smartest person out there but even Pete knows him being gay is a complete non starter.

I mean, it's not even that he is gay. You are right about the coastal liberal thing, but as much as a I think he is a good dude and qualified as hell, he is excruciatingly dorky. And I don't say that to hate on him in the least, but go watch that video from 2020 with him and his staff singing High Hopes and it't the most painfully white thing you will ever see.

[David Dennison 18837]

Just now, G650 said:

I mean, it's not even that he is gay. You are right about the coastal liberal thing, but as much as a I think he is a good dude and qualified as hell, he is excruciatingly dorky. And I don't say that to hate on him in the least, but go watch that video from 2020 with him and his staff singing High Hopes and it't the most painfully white thing you will ever see.

America is dork.

[Ragde 244]

On 11/11/2024 at 3:34 PM, Red Five said:

Oh no, I forgot to mention it was during peak covid. That's even worse!

Sorry, I'm not doing this. I'm done with having two sets of rule books. 

But what is being referenced is literally 2 rule books. I don't even think that's what would be the biggest knock tho. Cleaning the streets for Xi will be a hard talking point that will rally the very people that just got rallied.

[SimonBolivar 10957]

On 11/11/2024 at 9:27 AM, StassneyHorn said:

If you asked 10 people about French Laundry, 9 people would say no I have Whirlpool/GE.

Today, that wouldn't be the case once the R information machine got running. They have a powerful way of getting their message out via many different modes of media.