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Game Week 10, Texas at Arkansas


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The first game I ever saw in person at DKR was 2003 Arkansas. Texas was #5 and a 16.5 point favorite.  Final score was 38-28 Arky, and included this memorable play in the 3rd quarter:

3rd & 30 at ARK 3

(2:50 - 3rd) Matt Jones (ARK) pass left side complete to George Wilson (ARK) for 54 yards.
 
Yep. Third and 30 from their own 3 and they converted. The silver lining was that VY was watching from the sidelines and taking notes for '04 and '05.
 

Matt Jones was a beast. A coke head, but a beast too.
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Okay, so who do we replace Arky with if we've got 3 "protected rivalries"?
Pig was our dad's and grandad's rivalry, and these days it's pretty one sided in that older hogs get up for this game way more than older Longhorns for whatever reason.

I'd be fine with only playing them every four years or so, we don't need 3 true rivalry games every season.
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1 minute ago, ousux said:

Pig was our dad's and grandad's rivalry, and these days it's pretty one sided in that older hogs get up for this game way more than older Longhorns for whatever reason.
I'd be fine with only playing them every four years or so, we don't need 3 true rivalry games every season.

 

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Maybe they change my mind this weekend, but all year I've been hearing this and that about Àrkansas away, old rivals, throw out the spread..... I'm maybe in the minority but I don't really care about them. They were my dad's rivals and had a lot of 90s history in a conference I never knew. The first big game I remember watching was James Brown beating Nebraska. To me Arkansas is all stories and someone else's memories.

Can't imagine any of the undergrads or players give any more of a shit about hating us than any other school. They'll throw the horns down because that's what everybody does. Stomp their shit and move on. I don't want to rekindle a rivalry from 30+ years ago unless they're going to be contenders again. We already have a little brother that hates our ass.

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2 hours ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

We gonna murder these hillbillies and use their moonshine soaked skin to make a duvet to wrap the dead in. 

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58 minutes ago, Horndog said:

I've been to 3 games vs. Arkansas.

1. 2003 at DKR (38-28 Arky)

2. 2014 Alamo Bowl (31-7 Arky; 59 yards total offense)

3. 2021 at Fayetteville (40-21 Arky)

I'm staying away this week. 

This is the way.

19 minutes ago, ousux said:

Pig was our dad's and grandad's rivalry, and these days it's pretty one sided in that older hogs get up for this game way more than older Longhorns for whatever reason.

I'd be fine with only playing them every four years or so, we don't need 3 true rivalry games every season.

How old are you? Well get off my lawn then. Fuck them piggies.

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41 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Saw this on tv the other day. Hits close to home.

Lulz.  My mom took my brothers and I to see this movie at the dollar theater.  She got so pissed that there was an "evil" Superman, that we had to leave the movie early.  I remember not understanding the issue.  Come to think of it, I'm still not quite sure what her deal was.

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2 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Lulz.  My mom took my brothers and I to see this movie at the dollar theater.  She got so pissed that there was an "evil" Superman, that we had to leave the movie early.  I remember not understanding the issue.  Come to think of it, I'm still not quite sure what her deal was.

Reads like mom had the hots for Christopher Reeve which is okay since Lynda Carter was the inspiration for many in my generation's first hard-on.

LYNDA CARTER Wonder Woman 8x10 Celebrity Photo Photograph - Picture 1 of 1

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3 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

pig is the 2nd best team we’ve played this year. Will be a war I think. 

There's not really anything to back that up. They're behind both OU and UF in FPI and Sagarin. They haven't played on a materially different level than Michigan or Vandy this season. 

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23 minutes ago, Hornsome said:

totally ignore one of the biggest rivalries in our history. The piggies hate is strong and we can't play contenders every week. 

 

If you want more hate, have Texas play Tennessee every year instead of Arky  😎

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This quote drove me crazy at the time and still does. It’s like they need to give a UT football history lesson to new coaches to explain why teams hate our guts. In Arky’s case, even though they left the SEC and we hadn’t played them much, it doesn’t freaking matter. It’s a generational hatred, passed down from Arky parents to their children because of what we did to them in ‘69.

To be unaware of this as a Texas coach is unacceptable. Sark needs to push their stool in and deliver a message this time around.
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Maybe they change my mind this weekend, but all year I've been hearing this and that about Àrkansas away, old rivals, throw out the spread..... I'm maybe in the minority but I don't really care about them. They were my dad's rivals and had a lot of 90s history in a conference I never knew. The first big game I remember watching was James Brown beating Nebraska. To me Arkansas is all stories and someone else's memories.
Can't imagine any of the undergrads or players give any more of a shit about hating us than any other school. They'll throw the horns down because that's what everybody does. Stomp their shit and move on. I don't want to rekindle a rivalry from 30+ years ago unless they're going to be contenders again. We already have a little brother that hates our ass.
Titboss' (arky coach) pre-game presser came up on my YT feed today so I watched it earlier..

He actually had the team watch '64, '69 and '91 games in an effort to get the team to give a shit about this "rivalry". It's not a question we have fans on both sides who cherish the memories, but to the players on both sides this is pretty much just a conference game.

The OU game isn't like that, and most of our players were old enough to remember aggy on T-day, and even if they don't there is the natural rivalry because the players know each other and many were recruited by both schools.

Here's my thought exercise to the olds of which I am quickly becoming myself:

aggy, pig, sooner...you can only choose two of those to play yearly, what are your choices?
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3 hours ago, texifornia said:

We should play our rivals, it's half the point of college football 

This. Arkansas is usually ass anyway. Might as well beat them down every year in honor of that old SWC hate.

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5 minutes ago, ousux said:

Here's my thought exercise to the olds:
aggy, pig, sooner...you can only choose two of those to play yearly, what are your choices?

  1. blOU 
  2. aggy

 

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7 minutes ago, ousux said:

Titboss' (arky coach) pre-game presser came up on my YT feed today so I watched it earlier..

He actually had the team watch '64, '69 and '91 games in an effort to get the team to give a shit about this "rivalry". It's not a question we have fans on both sides who cherish the memories, but to the players on both sides this is pretty much just a conference game.

The OU game isn't like that, and most of our players were old enough to remember aggy on T-day, and even if they don't there is the natural rivalry because the players know each other and many were recruited by both schools.

Here's my thought exercise to the olds of which I am quickly becoming myself:

aggy, pig, sooner...you can only choose two of those to play yearly, what are your choices?

fair park only

aggy and pig home and away every 8 years in a 9-game rotation or however it works out

 

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Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

fair park only

aggy and pig home and away every 8 years in a 9-game rotation or however it works out

 

Nice!!!

Yeah I'm cool with only blOU every year.

1+8 with a 9 game schedule -- means aggy and arky only 2 times every 4 years and it would be great if they were in opposite years.

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14 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

pig is the 2nd best team we’ve played this year. Will be a war I think. 

According to Massey, pig is the 5th best team we've played this year. However, they are definitely within the same tier as Michigan, Oklahoma, and Florida. 

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31 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I miss the Big XII SWC where we were everyone's rival.

Yes I'm old. The SWC was fun in the 60's and early 70's. But TV changed the landscape of college football.

Oh, and fuck the piggies.  Lots of hate reserved for them.

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Just now, Skipper said:

Hard pass playing Arkie every year.   It's Texas Tech all over again.  One sided hate with no upside.  The mutual disdain from the 60's and 70's when both teams were elite is never coming back.

 

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8 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Hard pass playing Arkie every year.   It's Texas Tech all over again.  One sided hate with no upside.  The mutual disdain from the 60's and 70's when both teams were elite is never coming back.

Exactly. "They're usually bad" is a reason to NOT play them. Makes it worse whenever you lose and changes how each team prepares going in. 

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Some Arkansas statistical rankings in the FBS (lower is worse)

#118 opponent yards per passing attempt

#110 in penalty yards per game 

#107 opponent completion percentage

#98 in field position

#97 red zone scoring percentage

#93 turnover margin per game

This team loses at the margins and at defending the pass

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What are they good at?

#39 on offensive 3rd down conversion rates, #7 in offensive rushing success rate, #13 in passing offensive success rate, and #38 in defensive yards per rushing attempt. So they move the ball really well on offense, and are solid against the run on defense, although they struggle to score once they get into the red zone

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11 hours ago, ousux said:

Can't imagine any of the undergrads or players give any more of a shit about hating us than any other school.

They were printing up Horns Down T shirts and caps before ou and aggy did.  And they never stopped making them even after we parted ways.  They hate us.  Go to a game in Fayetteville and tell me it isn't a rivalry game for them.  They will be more fired up than we will be and we better be ready for it.

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47 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Hard pass playing Arkie every year.   It's Texas Tech all over again.  One sided hate with no upside.  The mutual disdain from the 60's and 70's when both teams were elite is never coming back.

1 permanent annual game + 8 makes so much sense but uga bama tenn lsu have at least 2 they say are immovable objects

if we have 2 perms we end up with aggy which sucks

the only way out of biannual pyle hellhole trips is 1 perm

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