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14 minutes ago, sidis said:

what exactly? of all people in the world, what does even a malicious politically motivated d.o.j. going to possibly be able to get jack smith on? or alvin bragg?

what do you expect a grand jury to indict them on?

Alvin Bragg works for the state of NY. Actually, he doesn't even work for the state of NY. He works for the city of Manhattan. Not sure what Gaetz is going to do to the guy. 

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

HHS is really the best we could have hoped for with RFK Jr. I was worried about CDC or FDA.  

umm, i have some bad news for you...

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Posted
2 minutes ago, sidis said:

For what do you think matt gaetz will be able to convince a grand jury to indict Jack Smith...even in this bizarre version of reality?

I don’t really have the inclination to think it through. But, I’ve seen some things up close in my time and a motivated prosecutor has a lot of power.  Kind of like when they go after someone for something and they turn over every rock and find some transaction and label it tax fraud even though it had nothing to do with why they were looking at them in the first place. 
Sometimes I wish people really understood what goes on in the justice system. You probably think judges are impartial too, right?

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Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

Feel fairly confident that in any random sample of Americans, 8/10 couldn't tell you what the Attorney General does and I guarantee you that 9/10 have no idea who Matt Gaetz is.

There's no payoff to paying this much attention to this stuff.  None of it matters, we can't change it, we all need to log off and just hope there's a nationwide "vibe" necessitating change in 2026/2028. 

I am confident that 95% of Americans cant name more than 4 supreme court justices. It's crazy. I know tons of "smart" people that cannot do this. 

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Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Alvin Bragg works for the state of NY. Actually, he doesn't even work for the state of NY. He works for the city of Manhattan. Not sure what Gaetz is going to do to the guy. 

well, he could open a federal investigation of him if he broke federal laws.

i am not aware that prosecuting a suspected felon, prevailing in a jury trial, and getting 34 felony convictions against said defendant is a federal crime.

yet.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Alvin Bragg works for the state of NY. Actually, he doesn't even work for the state of NY. He works for the city of Manhattan. Not sure what Gaetz is going to do to the guy. 

Try to seduce his children?

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Posted
Just now, sidis said:

well, he could open a federal investigation of him if he broke federal laws.

i am not aware that prosecuting a suspected felon, prevailing in a jury trial, and getting 34 felony convictions against said defendant is a federal crime.

yet.

Yes. I'm operating under the notion that he hasn't in fact broken any federal laws. Technically anyone who broke federal laws might get fucked by Gaetz. 

Just now, gmr548 said:

Try to seduce his children?

They're probably too old. 

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5 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I don’t really have the inclination to think it through. But, I’ve seen some things up close in my time and a motivated prosecutor has a lot of power.  Kind of like when they go after someone for something and they turn over every rock and find some transaction and label it tax fraud even though it had nothing to do with why they were looking at them in the first place. 
Sometimes I wish people really understood what goes on in the justice system. You probably think judges are impartial too, right?

he can tie up doj resources investigating jack smith all he wants. that's for sure. he may even get a friendly judge to sign off on an fbi warrant to go rearrange his house and harass smith (though i doubt it).

but anyone that knows anything about jack smith knows that there is nowhere to go with any of it and getting a grand jury to indict him for jaywalking will be a real challenge.

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yes. I'm operating under the notion that he hasn't in fact broken any federal laws. Technically anyone who broke federal laws 16 years old might get fucked by Gaetz. 

fify

He's going to run around in cars picking girls up off the street like Lavrentiy Beria.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, sidis said:

well, he could open a federal investigation of him if he broke federal laws.

i am not aware that prosecuting a suspected felon, prevailing in a jury trial, and getting 34 felony convictions against said defendant is a federal crime.

yet.

Read about Andy McCabe. Read about how Barr fucked around with Cohen when he wouldn’t agree to not write a book.  Here is something from today.  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1u4Jzh

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3 minutes ago, sidis said:

he can tie up doj resources investigating jack smith all he wants. that's for sure. he may even get a friendly judge to sign off on an fbi warrant to go rearrange his house and harass smith (though i doubt it).

but anyone that knows anything about jack smith knows that there is nowhere to go with any of it and getting a grand jury to indict him for jaywalking will be a real challenge.

Sure, but you understand that just being under investigation can cause someone to expend a significant amount of resources. 

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1 minute ago, CTC2 said:

Read about Andy McCabe. Read about how Barr fucked around with Cohen when he wouldn’t agree to not write a book.  Here is something from today.  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1u4Jzh

mccabe arguably violated federal law while at the fbi authorizing improper releases and was fired. i don't doubt that gaetz would fire smith.

that said, substantially more skilled and higher quality u.s. attorneys than matt fucking gaetz tried their damndest to get him indicted by a grand jury and the grand jury refused to do so and the feds were left holding their dicks.

also, jack smith is not andrew mccabe.

Posted
7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

In a grotesque way, you are correct.  It would be funny as fuck if we weren't talking bout the government of our country.

We might hope we're going to find out how little department heads really matter in the grand scheme of things because civil servants do all the real work.  But then there's that Schedule F/P2025 thing.

Bingo - I think we're about to see how dysfunctional our govt truly is when putting the dumbest of the dumb as these dept heads barely moves the needle.  It's pegged at zero or damn close already in many instances.  See POTUS for starters as Trump part 1. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

Sure, but you understand that just being under investigation can cause someone to expend a significant amount of resources. 

Yup, Feds have unlimited money and time.  Person under investigation has to spend their own time and money defending themselves.  

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Posted
1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

Yup, Feds have unlimited money and time.  Person under investigation has to spend their own time and money defending themselves.  

once they are indicted and being prosecuted. not really to be investigated.

especially when there's absolutely nothing there.

the more concerning thing to me about gaetz being in charge of the doj is not politically motivated revenge investigations, it is incompetence in actually investigating and prosecuting real crimes mixed with a healthy dose of corruption and an unwillingness to pursue actual crimes stemming from said corruption.

i would not be surprised if gaetz got outwitted by el chapo's kid and el mayo in the most slam dunk trial of all time.

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Posted
1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Yea a bunch of school kids dying because of some asshole seems swell.

GOP-  Well they can die from various diseases or from getting shot up in class.   No harm no foul.

Posted
1 hour ago, sidis said:

bragg's prosecution led to a jury convicting trump of 34 felonies that have not been overturned in any way by appeal. what basis is there to pursue criminal charges in that context?

When did the appeal happen? 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, sidis said:

well, he could open a federal investigation of him if he broke federal laws.

i am not aware that prosecuting a suspected felon, prevailing in a jury trial, and getting 34 felony convictions against said defendant is a federal crime.

yet.

Prosecutors (and judges) have very strong (bigly, huuuge) immunity from civil and criminal action.

Some of the shit that drove us nuts with Trump is about to prove its worth in the general case.

Basically, the fact that the indictment was not dismissed, and the jury convicted, completely isolates them from civil and criminal liability.

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Posted
2 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

RFK selected to be the Secretary of HHS

Thanks to RFK Jr, Birmingham Talk Radio today is 1/10 anti-big-pharma and 9/10 totally morphed into Organic Hippy Buy From Local Farmers, with a twist of doing whatever we need to do to make the tomatoes taste as good as the do in Italy.

I have one eyebrow raised.

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Posted
59 minutes ago, sidis said:

he can tie up doj resources investigating jack smith all he wants. that's for sure. he may even get a friendly judge to sign off on an fbi warrant to go rearrange his house and harass smith (though i doubt it).

but anyone that knows anything about jack smith knows that there is nowhere to go with any of it and getting a grand jury to indict him for jaywalking will be a real challenge.

Sounds like they have as much on Jack Smith as Jack Smith had on Gaetz.  Nothing.

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2 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Thanks to RFK Jr, Birmingham Talk Radio today is 1/10 anti-big-pharma and 9/10 totally morphed into Organic Hippy Buy From Local Farmers, with a twist of doing whatever we need to do to make the tomatoes taste as good as the do in Italy.

I have one eyebrow raised.

Piss on them.

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2 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Thanks to RFK Jr, Birmingham Talk Radio today is 1/10 anti-big-pharma and 9/10 totally morphed into Organic Hippy Buy From Local Farmers, with a twist of doing whatever we need to do to make the tomatoes taste as good as the do in Italy.

I have one eyebrow raised.

I’m all for healthier produce. We’ll see how big Agriculture takes that movement in addition to tariff costs.

Posted
45 minutes ago, sidis said:

once they are indicted and being prosecuted. not really to be investigated.

especially when there's absolutely nothing there.

the more concerning thing to me about gaetz being in charge of the doj is not politically motivated revenge investigations, it is incompetence in actually investigating and prosecuting real crimes mixed with a healthy dose of corruption and an unwillingness to pursue actual crimes stemming from said corruption.

i would not be surprised if gaetz got outwitted by el chapo's kid and el mayo in the most slam dunk trial of all time.

Well, the AG normally isn't involved in prosecution, either for or against, other than to approve or disapprove certain prosecutorial decisions.

The worry really is that the DOJ is the enforcement arm, mostly civil, for most of the agencies and things like civil and voting rights, etc. and it will therefore do a big fat nothing.

Of course, if he runs off all the good "street level" lawyers, we'll have a problem.

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Prosecutors (and judges) have very strong (bigly, huuuge) immunity from civil and criminal action.

Some of the shit that drove us nuts with Trump is about to prove its worth in the general case.

Basically, the fact that the indictment was not dismissed, and the jury convicted, completely isolates them from civil and criminal liability.

I feel a lot better now, knowing there’s a law against this kind of thing. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I feel a lot better now, knowing there’s a law against this kind of thing. 

Well, if after granting POTUS, or this POTUS very strong immunity, it will at least be laughably ironic if they start cutting back everyone else's.  

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Posted
12 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

I have no urge to battle past radio station security with my pants around my ankles and my thang whipping around spraying everything.

i dare you a christmas story GIF

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Posted
1 minute ago, Balcones said:

So, the appeal hasn’t happened?

Not even sure what you’re talking about. Very brave of you though. Won’t someone think of the children… fuckers.  Balcones will answer that call.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Not even sure what you’re talking about. Very brave of you though. Won’t someone think of the children… fuckers.  Balcones will answer that call.

I asked yesterday. Why didn’t the democrats charge Gaetz for underage sex? Why are y’all so weak on crime? 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, Balcones said:

When did the appeal happen? 

 

33 minutes ago, Balcones said:

Sounds like they have as much on Jack Smith as Jack Smith had on Gaetz.  Nothing.

i recognize based on you polluting the board over the last week that you are literally too stupid to insult but...

1) it has not been overturned by appeal to date. it likely will not be. even if it was, this is not create a federal offense from bragg which is the point.

2) jack smith was not responsible for investigating matt gaetz.

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Balcones said:

I asked yesterday. Why didn’t the democrats charge Gaetz for underage sex? Why are y’all so weak on crime? 
 

What’s your stance on members of congress having sex with 17 year olds? 
 

I cannot imagine actually defending someone but then again I try to have some morals. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

What’s your stance on members of congress having sex with 17 year olds? 
 

I cannot imagine actually defending someone but then again I try to have some morals. 

If he did, as you claim, he should be in prison. Why have the democrat led FBI/DOJ not charged him yet? 

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Posted
34 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

 

Here is where we are, I read the first part and was horrified, but believed it was something that could be true. Wasn’t until the punchline that my brain even registered that it was a joke 

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Posted
Just now, Balcones said:

If he did, as you claim, he should be in prison. Why have the democrat led FBI/DOJ not charged him yet? 

I don’t claim that. The 17 year olds he had sex with does. 
So I guess your stance is that you support congressmen having sex with 17 year olds. 

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