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IF COVID was an intentionally released biological weapon aimed at a USA that was defenseless with idiots in charge, I'd imagine we're likely to see round 2 within the next 36 months. Only deterrent may be China getting hit harder economically than they anticipated the first time around. 

I'm confident the US's enemies smell blood in the water and are planning something to go for the kill. It's about to be optimal time to go all out. 

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2 hours ago, Hermanator said:

IF COVID was an intentionally released biological weapon aimed at a USA that was defenseless with idiots in charge, I'd imagine we're likely to see round 2 within the next 36 months. Only deterrent may be China getting hit harder economically than they anticipated the first time around. 

I'm confident the US's enemies smell blood in the water and are planning something to go for the kill. It's about to be optimal time to go all out. 

The weak have been purged. Let’s drown the enemies in the smelly blood. 

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9 hours ago, Parliament said:

I took all my shots (Covid booster #4 now?), if fit, young enough and generally healthy.  Bring this shit on.  I wanna at least get some good stories out of this.

We’ve done a terrible job disclosing the risks of long covid. Even at 3.5% getting it which is down tremendously, with millions infected daily we have nearly 500,000,000 across the globe with long covid. This isn’t like the flu where it’s not a big deal for the healthy and a risk for the young, old and infirm. It’s a wildcard virus. Yes vaccines help a lot but they are not immunity from long covid at all. 

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10 hours ago, Hermanator said:

IF COVID was an intentionally released biological weapon aimed at a USA that was defenseless with idiots in charge, I'd imagine we're likely to see round 2 within the next 36 months. Only deterrent may be China getting hit harder economically than they anticipated the first time around. 

I'm confident the US's enemies smell blood in the water and are planning something to go for the kill. It's about to be optimal time to go all out. 

our incoming head of the FDA still thinks COVID "is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”

If/when we get another pandemic situation, we are well and truly fucked.

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

our incoming head of the FDA still thinks COVID "is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”

If/when we get another pandemic situation, we are well and truly fucked.

Does the Askenazi bit still count if your ancestors tried out being Lutheran in an attempt to fit in better?

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23 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yay, I tested positive for COVID again.  Do I stay home and watch Parks and Rec or What We Do in the Shadows and self-quarantine?

Nah.

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My assistant's dad has tested positive multiple times - Turns out he didn't know how to read the tests. C does not stand for Covid, it stands for Control. 2 dots are a positive.

 

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12 hours ago, futureman said:

a few hundred times?  

Yeah?  The US has approximately 75M people under the age of 18.  Influenza mortality is ~ 0.5 deaths per 100,000 in that group (actually quite a bit higher for the 0-4 age group, but let's go with 0.5).  That implies 375 deaths per year under the age of 18.

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3 hours ago, troph said:

We’ve done a terrible job disclosing the risks of long covid. Even at 3.5% getting it which is down tremendously, with millions infected daily we have nearly 500,000,000 across the globe with long covid. This isn’t like the flu where it’s not a big deal for the healthy and a risk for the young, old and infirm. It’s a wildcard virus. Yes vaccines help a lot but they are not immunity from long covid at all. 

yeah but that only effects the fats, poors, and olds.   and my cousin Jed 

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16 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

When do we start doing morning shots of bleach?

Shots…in the butthole? 

2 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

....at least as long as I can. I'm gonna smoke them cigarettes, feel 'em burnin' in my lungs, man.  

For once, my Ashkenazi heritage is good for something! 

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13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah?  The US has approximately 75M people under the age of 18.  Influenza mortality is ~ 0.5 deaths per 100,000 in that group (actually quite a bit higher for the 0-4 age group, but let's go with 0.5).  That implies 375 deaths per year under the age of 18.

i haven't wandered over to this desert in two years to read this.  wow.  

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3 hours ago, troph said:

We’ve done a terrible job disclosing the risks of long covid. Even at 3.5% getting it which is down tremendously, with millions infected daily we have nearly 500,000,000 across the globe with long covid. This isn’t like the flu where it’s not a big deal for the healthy and a risk for the young, old and infirm. It’s a wildcard virus. Yes vaccines help a lot but they are not immunity from long covid at all. 

Is there an extra zero in your number?  500M people with long COVID is 6% of global population.  That seems really high.

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20 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Is there an extra zero in your number?  500M people with long COVID is 6% of global population.  That seems really high.

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https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/as-recommendations-for-isolation-end-how-common-is-long-covid/

 

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https://time.com/6999274/long-covid-risk-2024/

 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/health/long-covid-world.html

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28 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Is there an extra zero in your number?  500M people with long COVID is 6% of global population.  That seems really high.

yale medicine estimates over 400M so no not an extra zero.

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Long COVID afflicts 400 million people around the world, and experts estimate that the disease has an economic impact as high as $1 trillion each year, according to a recent review including Dr. Al-Aly and Akiko Iwasaki, PhD, Sterling Professor of Immunobiology.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-vaccines-reduce-long-covid-risk-new-study-shows

I don't know their definition but long covid is generally thought to mean any symptoms that persist beyond 12 weeks and are not from another cause. I technically had long covid as mine was probably 14 weeks. the remainder was medical withdrawals. some long covid is years long, some is effectively permanent. So some of those 400M will likely emerge out of the long covid diagnosis but with a rate of 3.5% new long covid cases and millions infected daily, the additions will easily equal the subtractions until we know more and can target treatments more effectively.

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6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

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https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/as-recommendations-for-isolation-end-how-common-is-long-covid/

 

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https://time.com/6999274/long-covid-risk-2024/

 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/health/long-covid-world.html

OK... that makes sense.  Read Troph's comment that we currently have 500M cases.  Makes more sense that we have had 500M cases over the past four years.

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5 minutes ago, troph said:

yale medicine estimates over 400M so no not an extra zero.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-vaccines-reduce-long-covid-risk-new-study-shows

I don't know their definition but long covid is generally thought to mean any symptoms that persist beyond 12 weeks and are not from another cause. I technically had long covid as mine was probably 14 weeks. the remainder was medical withdrawals. some long covid is years long, some is effectively permanent. So some of those 400M will likely emerge out of the long covid diagnosis but with a rate of 3.5% new long covid cases and millions infected daily, the additions will easily equal the subtractions until we know more and can target treatments more effectively.

I was vaccine-injured, does that count for long covid? 

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19 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

OK... that makes sense.  Read Troph's comment that we currently have 500M cases.  Makes more sense that we have had 500M cases over the past four years.

I just got curious and googled something like "How many people have long covid?" or some such. I had no idea if it was the correct estimate or not. Those three articles I cited were among the top returns. It was simply a fact check. Past tense, present tense can get murky for long-term diseases. Some might not even recognize they have it, which is good in the sense that it's not so debilitating. Maybe they just have some nagging shit. I don't know the experience, since I've never caught Covid yet (knock on wood).

In the case of my mom, she was never the same after she caught Covid (though it could also be chalked up to grieving over my father, who died from it). Regardless, she had a notable decline in cognitive function immediately following the event. She may or may not have had long Covid. It doesn't matter much because the cancer she caught a year or so later did her in any way. All I can say is that it suddenly became much more difficult to hold a conversation with her; she became easily confused; she started having weird heart stuff with her pacemaker going off a bunch; and the doctor doing a number of tests to just diagnose her with "broken heart syndrome."

It could've simply been depression. Who knows?

I'm just not down with the dug-in assholes who act like pricks and minimize all things Covid, which I'm definitely NOT accusing you of. I just get tired of the same shit getting tossed around by the same internet idjits, whom I suspect use that attitude as a self-defense mechanism. Deep down, they know it was a serious disease. They just don't want to admit their culpability in fanning the flames of an epidemic that killed 1.2 million fellow Americans. 

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