Covid/Influenza/Black Death. 2024 and beyond

[Parliament 14260]

Might as well get this started.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/canadian-teen-suspected-avian-flu-critical-condition

[DaggerHorns 3085]

[F250 28775]

 

[Deej 76791]

Good thing COVID helped us realize masking, social distancing, vaccines are useless.

[B00M 6416]

[Telegraph_it 3357]

Only fitting Trump back in office next year. The timeline has symmetry. 
 

[Deej 76791]

4 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Only fitting Trump back in office next year. The timeline has symmetry. 
 

It's all good. This guy will have it under control.

 

[Your Mom 4806]

I’m not a Covid denier or anything like that. It was real, more could’ve been done, etc.. blah blah blah…

but I’m done celebrating that shit.
 

[F250 28775]

1 hour ago, Telegraph_it said:

Only fitting Trump back in office next year. The timeline has symmetry. 
 

I am positive we are living in a series of straight to DVD movies. Our universe is actually a bin of two dollar DVDs sitting in a Walmart.

[B00M 6416]

1 hour ago, Your Mom said:

but I’m done celebrating that shit.

[Deej 76791]

1 hour ago, Your Mom said:

I’m not a Covid denier or anything like that. It was real, more could’ve been done, etc.. blah blah blah…

but I’m done celebrating that shit.
 

You were celebrating COVID?

[F250 28775]

1 minute ago, Deej said:

You were celebrating COVID?

You know celebrating, mourning  whatever it takes.

[Deej 76791]

[Parliament 14260]

I took all my shots (Covid booster #4 now?), if fit, young enough and generally healthy.  Bring this shit on.  I wanna at least get some good stories out of this.

[Hermanator 7050]

IF COVID was an intentionally released biological weapon aimed at a USA that was defenseless with idiots in charge, I'd imagine we're likely to see round 2 within the next 36 months. Only deterrent may be China getting hit harder economically than they anticipated the first time around. 

I'm confident the US's enemies smell blood in the water and are planning something to go for the kill. It's about to be optimal time to go all out. 

[Deej 76791]

I know exactly who they'll use to smuggle in the virus. 

 

[atomheartbevo 89668]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

It's all good. This guy will have it under control.

When Roseanne Barr thinks you're weird as fuck for carrying a dead bear cub around in the trunk of your car because you want to eat the fucking thing, you're probably really fucking weird.

[Schulz2.0 28951]

55 minutes ago, F250 said:

I am positive we are living in a series of straight to DVD movies. Our universe is actually a bin of two dollar DVDs sitting in a Walmart.

Is the next one up an Ernest movie? I've been working on my "know what I mean, Vern?"

Edited November 13 by Schulz2.0

[BurntEyes 5992]

[BurntEyes 5992]

24 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

When Roseanne Barr thinks you're weird as fuck for carrying a dead bear cub around in the trunk of your car because you want to eat the fucking thing, you're probably really fucking weird.

[Helobious 9453]

Did people really not know that even the flu can kill young, healthy people? It’s not super common but it happens probably a few hundred times a year in the US alone. It’s always been that way.

[futureman 22462]

25 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Did people really not know that even the flu can kill young, healthy people? It’s not super common but it happens probably a few hundred times a year in the US alone. It’s always been that way.

a few hundred times?  

Edited November 13 by futureman

[atomheartbevo 89668]

1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

 

[Da Fino 2783]

2 hours ago, Hermanator said:

IF COVID was an intentionally released biological weapon aimed at a USA that was defenseless with idiots in charge, I'd imagine we're likely to see round 2 within the next 36 months. Only deterrent may be China getting hit harder economically than they anticipated the first time around. 

I'm confident the US's enemies smell blood in the water and are planning something to go for the kill. It's about to be optimal time to go all out. 

The weak have been purged. Let’s drown the enemies in the smelly blood. 

[InkaUtexas 25940]

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

I took all my shots (Covid booster #4 now?), if fit, young enough and generally healthy.  Bring this shit on.  I wanna at least get some good stories out of this.

You stocking up on TP or saving those stories for the Shart thread?

[troph 24798]

9 hours ago, Parliament said:

I took all my shots (Covid booster #4 now?), if fit, young enough and generally healthy.  Bring this shit on.  I wanna at least get some good stories out of this.

We’ve done a terrible job disclosing the risks of long covid. Even at 3.5% getting it which is down tremendously, with millions infected daily we have nearly 500,000,000 across the globe with long covid. This isn’t like the flu where it’s not a big deal for the healthy and a risk for the young, old and infirm. It’s a wildcard virus. Yes vaccines help a lot but they are not immunity from long covid at all. 

[Captainant 27668]

10 hours ago, Hermanator said:

IF COVID was an intentionally released biological weapon aimed at a USA that was defenseless with idiots in charge, I'd imagine we're likely to see round 2 within the next 36 months. Only deterrent may be China getting hit harder economically than they anticipated the first time around. 

I'm confident the US's enemies smell blood in the water and are planning something to go for the kill. It's about to be optimal time to go all out. 

our incoming head of the FDA still thinks COVID "is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”

If/when we get another pandemic situation, we are well and truly fucked.

[Js1 85337]

5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

our incoming head of the FDA still thinks COVID "is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”

If/when we get another pandemic situation, we are well and truly fucked.

I’m gonna live forever!!!

[Trey3216 15346]

45 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I’m gonna live forever!!!

....at least as long as I can. I'm gonna smoke them cigarettes, feel 'em burnin' in my lungs, man.  

[General Specific 3261]

I’m gonna live forever!!!

[Royalfan5 2354]

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

our incoming head of the FDA still thinks COVID "is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”

If/when we get another pandemic situation, we are well and truly fucked.

Does the Askenazi bit still count if your ancestors tried out being Lutheran in an attempt to fit in better?

[atomheartbevo 89668]

Yay, I tested positive for COVID again.  Do I stay home and watch Parks and Rec or What We Do in the Shadows and self-quarantine?

Nah.

[South Austin 52504]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

I’m gonna live forever!!!

[Bevo 13577]

23 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yay, I tested positive for COVID again.  Do I stay home and watch Parks and Rec or What We Do in the Shadows and self-quarantine?

Nah.

 

My assistant's dad has tested positive multiple times - Turns out he didn't know how to read the tests. C does not stand for Covid, it stands for Control. 2 dots are a positive.

 

 

 

[Guadaloopy 10971]

I think we can stop calling it a COVID "booster" now.  It's an annual vaccine just like the flu.  Stay stuck in '21-'22 if you want, but the rest of us are moving on to the new reality.

[InkaUtexas 25940]

2 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

I think we can stop calling it a COVID "booster" now.  It's an annual vaccine just like the flu.  Stay stuck in '21-'22 if you want, but the rest of us are moving on to the new reality.

When do we start doing morning shots of bleach?

[Redneck Mutha 7956]

4 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

When do we start doing morning shots of bleach?

Start?

[jimmyjazz 45952]

12 hours ago, futureman said:

a few hundred times?  

Yeah?  The US has approximately 75M people under the age of 18.  Influenza mortality is ~ 0.5 deaths per 100,000 in that group (actually quite a bit higher for the 0-4 age group, but let's go with 0.5).  That implies 375 deaths per year under the age of 18.

[Kel Varnsen 8460]

How will the bird flu feed on my worms if I already took Ivermectin

[Bill Brasky 1449]

3 hours ago, troph said:

We’ve done a terrible job disclosing the risks of long covid. Even at 3.5% getting it which is down tremendously, with millions infected daily we have nearly 500,000,000 across the globe with long covid. This isn’t like the flu where it’s not a big deal for the healthy and a risk for the young, old and infirm. It’s a wildcard virus. Yes vaccines help a lot but they are not immunity from long covid at all. 

yeah but that only effects the fats, poors, and olds.   and my cousin Jed 

[Js1 85337]

16 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

When do we start doing morning shots of bleach?

Shots…in the butthole? 

2 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

....at least as long as I can. I'm gonna smoke them cigarettes, feel 'em burnin' in my lungs, man.  

For once, my Ashkenazi heritage is good for something! 

[RollLeft 5045]

13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah?  The US has approximately 75M people under the age of 18.  Influenza mortality is ~ 0.5 deaths per 100,000 in that group (actually quite a bit higher for the 0-4 age group, but let's go with 0.5).  That implies 375 deaths per year under the age of 18.

i haven't wandered over to this desert in two years to read this.  wow.  

[Guadaloopy 10971]

3 hours ago, troph said:

We’ve done a terrible job disclosing the risks of long covid. Even at 3.5% getting it which is down tremendously, with millions infected daily we have nearly 500,000,000 across the globe with long covid. This isn’t like the flu where it’s not a big deal for the healthy and a risk for the young, old and infirm. It’s a wildcard virus. Yes vaccines help a lot but they are not immunity from long covid at all. 

Is there an extra zero in your number?  500M people with long COVID is 6% of global population.  That seems really high.

[General Specific 3261]

i haven't wandered over to this desert in two years to read this.  wow.  

That make two of us.


And for me specifically.

[bolverk 29672]

20 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Is there an extra zero in your number?  500M people with long COVID is 6% of global population.  That seems really high.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/as-recommendations-for-isolation-end-how-common-is-long-covid/

 

https://time.com/6999274/long-covid-risk-2024/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/health/long-covid-world.html

[troph 24798]

28 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Is there an extra zero in your number?  500M people with long COVID is 6% of global population.  That seems really high.

yale medicine estimates over 400M so no not an extra zero.

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Long COVID afflicts 400 million people around the world, and experts estimate that the disease has an economic impact as high as $1 trillion each year, according to a recent review including Dr. Al-Aly and Akiko Iwasaki, PhD, Sterling Professor of Immunobiology.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-vaccines-reduce-long-covid-risk-new-study-shows

I don't know their definition but long covid is generally thought to mean any symptoms that persist beyond 12 weeks and are not from another cause. I technically had long covid as mine was probably 14 weeks. the remainder was medical withdrawals. some long covid is years long, some is effectively permanent. So some of those 400M will likely emerge out of the long covid diagnosis but with a rate of 3.5% new long covid cases and millions infected daily, the additions will easily equal the subtractions until we know more and can target treatments more effectively.

[Guadaloopy 10971]

6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/as-recommendations-for-isolation-end-how-common-is-long-covid/

 

https://time.com/6999274/long-covid-risk-2024/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/09/health/long-covid-world.html

OK... that makes sense.  Read Troph's comment that we currently have 500M cases.  Makes more sense that we have had 500M cases over the past four years.

[Annie_Tobak 131]

5 minutes ago, troph said:

yale medicine estimates over 400M so no not an extra zero.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-vaccines-reduce-long-covid-risk-new-study-shows

I don't know their definition but long covid is generally thought to mean any symptoms that persist beyond 12 weeks and are not from another cause. I technically had long covid as mine was probably 14 weeks. the remainder was medical withdrawals. some long covid is years long, some is effectively permanent. So some of those 400M will likely emerge out of the long covid diagnosis but with a rate of 3.5% new long covid cases and millions infected daily, the additions will easily equal the subtractions until we know more and can target treatments more effectively.

I was vaccine-injured, does that count for long covid? 

[F250 28775]

13 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Is the next one up an Ernest movie? I've been working on my "know what I mean, Vern?"

It might just be a series of Ernest commercials from the 80's. That dude was hawking everything back in the day.

[bolverk 29672]

19 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

OK... that makes sense.  Read Troph's comment that we currently have 500M cases.  Makes more sense that we have had 500M cases over the past four years.

I just got curious and googled something like "How many people have long covid?" or some such. I had no idea if it was the correct estimate or not. Those three articles I cited were among the top returns. It was simply a fact check. Past tense, present tense can get murky for long-term diseases. Some might not even recognize they have it, which is good in the sense that it's not so debilitating. Maybe they just have some nagging shit. I don't know the experience, since I've never caught Covid yet (knock on wood).

In the case of my mom, she was never the same after she caught Covid (though it could also be chalked up to grieving over my father, who died from it). Regardless, she had a notable decline in cognitive function immediately following the event. She may or may not have had long Covid. It doesn't matter much because the cancer she caught a year or so later did her in any way. All I can say is that it suddenly became much more difficult to hold a conversation with her; she became easily confused; she started having weird heart stuff with her pacemaker going off a bunch; and the doctor doing a number of tests to just diagnose her with "broken heart syndrome."

It could've simply been depression. Who knows?

I'm just not down with the dug-in assholes who act like pricks and minimize all things Covid, which I'm definitely NOT accusing you of. I just get tired of the same shit getting tossed around by the same internet idjits, whom I suspect use that attitude as a self-defense mechanism. Deep down, they know it was a serious disease. They just don't want to admit their culpability in fanning the flames of an epidemic that killed 1.2 million fellow Americans. 

Edited November 13 by bolverk
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