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5 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

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Eh just rub some raw milk on it and go sit in a wellness clinic IV room for tips, it’ll work out just fine.

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58 minutes ago, troph said:

Eh just rub some raw milk on it and go sit in a wellness clinic IV room for tips, it’ll work out just fine.

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My wife and I have been down sick since Sunday evening. Got one of those home tests for flu and covid, turns out we both have flu type A. Fuck this sucks.

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2 minutes ago, Sandman said:

My wife and I have been down sick since Sunday evening. Got one of those home tests for flu and covid, turns out we both have flu type A. Fuck this sucks.

This has turned out to be a pretty bad flu season.  Hell, the lady horns basketball team is having trouble putting out a full team right now, so many of them are sick with it.

My wife had it, it's an ass-kicker.  Takes a full week to get better, and being knocked flat and resting is pretty much the only path forward.

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24 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This has turned out to be a pretty bad flu season.  Hell, the lady horns basketball team is having trouble putting out a full team right now, so many of them are sick with it.

My wife had it, it's an ass-kicker.  Takes a full week to get better, and being knocked flat and resting is pretty much the only path forward.

Several schools in my area went to virtual only for part of the week. Too many sick teachers and bus drivers and not enough coverage. 

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43 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This has turned out to be a pretty bad flu season.  Hell, the lady horns basketball team is having trouble putting out a full team right now, so many of them are sick with it.

My wife had it, it's an ass-kicker.  Takes a full week to get better, and being knocked flat and resting is pretty much the only path forward.

I highly advise anyone who can get it to get the 20 variant pneumonia vaccination.  The flu won’t kill you but the pneumonia you get from the flu might.   I had previously had the 13 variant about 10 years ago, and the booster shot I received was perhaps the least painful, fewest side effects vaccination I’ve ever had

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20 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I highly advise anyone who can get it to get the 20 variant pneumonia vaccination.  The flu won’t kill you but the pneumonia you get from the flu might.   I had previously had the 13 variant about 10 years ago, and the booster shot I received was perhaps the least painful, fewest side effects vaccination I’ve ever had

Yeah....I need to get on that.  When my wife had her bout of flu, and I had a hellacious upper respiratory infection a coupla weeks later (yeah, it's been a month for us), that was a concern our docs had (pneumonia).  We're old enough now...I'll visit with my doc about it next time.

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I've had multiple bouts with pneumonia over the years.  Lifelong asthmatic, and sometimes it would catch on.

One time, it REALLY caught on.  Bacterial.  10 days in the hospital.  Thought I was gonna die.  Don't f around with pneumonia.

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On 1/31/2025 at 11:44 AM, Sandman said:

My wife and I have been down sick since Sunday evening. Got one of those home tests for flu and covid, turns out we both have flu type A. Fuck this sucks.

how you holding up? My son got a fever wednesday after picking him up from school and hes been on & off the last 4 days but with a cough, his positive flu A test was on friday...

 

i just tested positive for A 20 min ago but i no longer have a fever(my highest was like 100) and my coughs better. do some people just have a shittier time with this? I couldve easily gone to work these last 2 days.

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On 1/31/2025 at 11:44 AM, Sandman said:

My wife and I have been down sick since Sunday evening. Got one of those home tests for flu and covid, turns out we both have flu type A. Fuck this sucks.

Ugh. Apparently flu A is a real bitch this year. 

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1 hour ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

 

how you holding up? My son got a fever wednesday after picking him up from school and hes been on & off the last 4 days but with a cough, his positive flu A test was on friday...

 

i just tested positive for A 20 min ago but i no longer have a fever(my highest was like 100) and my coughs better. do some people just have a shittier time with this? I couldve easily gone to work these last 2 days.

I wouldn’t test unless I was in the window for tamiflu to work (?24 to 48 hrs from symptom onset I think). If you have a fever over 101 and or shaking chills and body aches do yourself and coworkers a favor and stay home. If fluids and advil/tylenol aren’t helping that first day get tested so you can get a course of Tamiflu and cut it short a couple of days. 

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1 hour ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

 

how you holding up? My son got a fever wednesday after picking him up from school and hes been on & off the last 4 days but with a cough, his positive flu A test was on friday...

 

i just tested positive for A 20 min ago but i no longer have a fever(my highest was like 100) and my coughs better. do some people just have a shittier time with this? I couldve easily gone to work these last 2 days.

Saturday I was able to get up and around and even run a couple of errands. Today, I feel good, other than some lingering congestion. Headed back to work tomorrow. 

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2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

I wouldn’t test unless I was in the window for tamiflu to work (?24 to 48 hrs from symptom onset I think). If you have a fever over 101 and or shaking chills and body aches do yourself and coworkers a favor and stay home. If fluids and advil/tylenol aren’t helping that first day get tested so you can get a course of Tamiflu and cut it short a couple of days. 

i suspected it Fri night when i got my first fever(nothing crazy, 99-100 but yellow on the thermometer)...we tested my kid friday and thats when we got our first A positive. so yesterday I isolated in the loft. today he joined me in the loft. and out of curiosity since i felt 100% normal i tested  this afternoon and it still popped a line flu A part on the test strip. havent needed any tylenol or advil...had to use it on my kid tho but its been a couple days since hes had some.

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Wild there hasn't been more news about this. I guess we're getting the same pandemic playbook as last time with this particular president - ignore it and hope it goes away.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/usda-detects-bird-flu-strain-dairy-cattle-not-previously-seen-cows-according-2025-02-05/

Reuters: Second bird flu strain found in US dairy cattle, USDA says

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Feb 5 (Reuters) - U.S. dairy cattle tested positive for a strain of bird flu that previously had not been seen in cows, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said on Wednesday, ramping up concerns about the persistent spread of the virus.
The H5N1 virus has reduced milk output in cattle, pushed up egg prices by wiping out millions of hens, and infected nearly 70 people since April as it has spread across the country.
Genome sequencing of milk from Nevada identified the different strain, known as the D1.1 genotype, in dairy cows for the first time, the USDA said. Previously, all 957 bird flu infections among dairy herds reported since last March had been caused by another strain, the B3.13 genotype, according to the agency.
 
Reuters reported news of the detection of the second strain on Wednesday ahead of USDA's announcement.
The second strain was the predominant genotype among wild birds this past fall and winter and has also been found in poultry, the USDA said. It was identified in dairy cattle through an agency program that began testing milk for bird flu in December.
"We're seeing the H5N1 virus itself be smarter than all of us," said Beth Thompson, South Dakota's state veterinarian.
 
"It's modifying itself so it's not just staying in the poultry and the wild waterfowl. It's picking up a home in the mammals."
Wild birds likely transmitted the second strain to cattle in Nevada, said J.J. Goicoechea, Nevada's agriculture director. Farmers need to ramp up safety and security measures to protect their animals, he said.
"We obviously aren't doing everything we can and everything we should or the virus wouldn't be getting in," he said.
 
The Nevada Department of Agriculture said on January 31 that herds in two counties had been placed under quarantine due to bird flu detections.
It is important for the USDA to contain the outbreak in the state quickly, so the strain does not spread to dairy cattle elsewhere, said Gail Hansen, a veterinary and public health consultant.
Last year, bird flu spread across the country as infected cattle were shipped from Texas after the virus first leapt to cows from wild birds.
 
"We didn't get a hold on it before," Hansen said. "We want to avoid that same scenario from happening in Nevada."
Dairy herds that were formerly infected may be at risk again from the second strain, experts said.
"Now it looks like we have new strains of virus that may escape some of the immunity associated with the other strains of viruses that could exacerbate the epidemics among animals and wildlife," said Gregory Gray, a University of Texas Medical Branch professor studying cattle diseases.

Wild that the CDC and FDA have said nothing about this - it's already impacting the egg supply (if "we" still "care" about that "issue" lol), and is poised to impact milk supplies if it starts to impact cattle and taint milk. Even moreso if that milk is no longer being pasteurized. 

Fucks sake, man.

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On 1/31/2025 at 12:56 PM, Don Johnson said:

I guess this year's flu shot isn't great?  

Weirdly enough, our 4 year old was down bad for a week with it. He did not get the shot. But both the wife and I did, and I never got it despite a week at home with him, and the wife, who is preggers, never got symptoms, but ran "near fever" for a few days. I can't tell you how many times that little fucker sneezed directly into our faces, so I attributed that to our shots. We both got them in mid-december. 

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2 minutes ago, UnivTex34 said:

Weirdly enough, our 4 year old was down bad for a week with it. He did not get it. But both the wife and I did, and I never got it despite a week at home with him, and the wife, who is preggers, never got symptoms, but ran "near fever" for a few days. I can't tell you how many times that little fucker sneezed directly into our faces, so I attributed that to our shots. We both got them in mid-december. 

My family all got the shot, and (knock on wood) has not had the flu yet.  But I've known many who did get the shot and have gotten the flu.  All anecdotal, though.

One theory I've heard related to the current outbreak is the xofluza pill works so well that people are going back to work and school after a day while still contagious.

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6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Huh I just also came across a Vanity Fair article from Oct 2024 about bird flu in Texas cattle herds.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/inside-the-bungled-bird-flu-response

Wouldn't you know it, they looked the other way and didn't cull herds, and now there's two variants in cattle that's uncontained.

Vanity Fair... a mainstay in grain elevators and Dairy Queens across the state.

Maybe Rolling Stone will do the follow up.

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8 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

My family all got the shot, and (knock on wood) has not had the flu yet.  But I've known many who did get the shot and have gotten the flu.  All anecdotal, though.

One theory I've heard related to the current outbreak is the xofluza pill works so well that people are going back to work and school after a day while still contagious.

Yeah, all the folks we have heard that got the shot and got the flu got the shot early, like October or first half of November and then got the flu in the second half of January. So our theory is we were exposed around 30 days after ours, and that is why it worked. But who the fuck knows.

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100,000 Eggs Are Stolen in Pennsylvania Amid Shortage
The theft of the eggs, which the authorities said were worth $40,000, comes as grocery shoppers across the country are facing empty shelves and higher prices for eggs.

The Pennsylvania State Police said this week that they were investigating the theft on Saturday of 100,000 organic eggs worth more than $40,000 from a distribution trailer in Greencastle, in south-central Pennsylvania.

The eggs were stolen at around 8:40 p.m. from a facility operated by Pete & Gerry’s Organics, according to a police report.

“The thieves could sell them or even use them for vandalizing purposes,” Trooper Megan Frazer, a State Police spokeswoman, said in an email on Wednesday. “We don’t know what purpose of stealing 100,000 would be for at this time. With the extreme increased price of eggs, someone may have thought they could sell them.”

“The only thing similar I have encountered during my career,” she added, “was a stolen trailer full of ‘tainted chickens.’”

Eggs have been a prominent feature in the national news cycle. Their rising cost was a talking point in the presidential campaign. Suppliers are warning about the impact of avian influenza on availability and prices. And this week, Waffle House introduced a 50-cent surcharge on every egg it serves. (The chain says it serves more than 272 million eggs a year.)

In Pennsylvania, the trail has gone quiet, at least publicly, since the nighttime raid. But at a time when shoppers across the country are facing empty shelves and higher prices when shopping for eggs, the theft has drawn outsize attention to what would ordinarily be seen as a local event.

“This egg theft incident is definitely unusual and has gained national attention,” Trooper Frazer said.

With no new information to report since the theft, local and national news organizations this week are trying to engage readers with egg puns.

Thieves “poached” the eggs from a truck, leaving Pete & Gerry’s “shell shocked,” The New York Post reported. “Pa. police scramble to crack case,” Cleveland.com said in a headline, adding that the investigation would take some “hard-boiled” detective work.

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The theft also generated buzz on social media and in public forums as commentators speculated about the logistics of a bulk egg theft.

“100k eggs can’t be easy to conceal or ‘move,’” one person wrote in Reddit’s main news forum.

The thieves “need to meet up with the dudes who orchestrated the Great Canadian Maple Syrup Heist and make breakfast,” another person, apparently an optimist, wrote.

Pete & Gerry’s Organics, an egg producer that works with family farms to distribute eggs to retailers, said on Wednesday that it was increasing security and surveillance to “help prevent this from happening again.”

It was not immediately clear how so many eggs could be removed from the vehicle and what the thieves intended to do with them, but they possibly did not get to all of the cargo. Eggs are generally shuttled around in cases, in cartons or on pallets, said Karyn Rispoli, the egg managing editor at Expana, a firm that tracks commodity prices.

“Generally a full trailer load of large eggs probably is between $150,000 to $200,000,” she said in an interview. “It depends on what’s in there.”

Grocery stores and restaurants are now paying around $7.79 for a dozen Midwest large eggs, the industry standard, up from $3.33 a year ago, according to Expana.

Prices have been spiking partly because of inflation, but also because of avian influenza, or bird flu, which made its way to the United States in 2022 after it was detected in Canada.

The impact is being felt in households and businesses. Waffle House said this week that consumers and restaurants were being forced to make difficult decisions.

Trucking costs are also going up.

“The higher these prices go obviously the truckloads become increasingly expensive,” Ms. Rispoli said.

She said that the theft of $40,000 worth of eggs was being widely reported because of the economics behind it.

“I think it highlights the underlying problem, but I don’t know that it is necessarily very salacious in its scale,” she said. “The idea that eggs have gotten so difficult to find, and so expensive that somebody is actually willing to steal them, is the bigger thing of note.”

 

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8 minutes ago, troph said:

so serious question - should one stop drinking milk and eating eggs for a period of time? 

I don’t drink a hell of a lot of milk so I always buy the Fairlife brand that is ultra pasteurized. That way it can stay in my refrigerator for a month or so until I use it all.    i’m a tad bit of a prepper, so when Covid hit I bought a bunch of cartons of egg beaters and froze them in my chest freezer.  I’ve just been pulling them out, defrosting them and using them.   Better than no eggs anyway. 

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1 hour ago, troph said:

so serious question - should one stop drinking milk and eating eggs for a period of time? 

Cooking eggs kills the virus. If you aren't drinking raw milk, I'd assume you're good. 

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1 minute ago, Deej said:

Cooking eggs kills the virus. If you aren't drinking raw milk, I'd assume your good. 

I'll lay off the raw milk... for now.  thanks.

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2 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Is it ultra pasteurized or ultra filtered?

not directed to me, but we drink ultra filtered - less fat, less sugar, keeps the protein.

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13 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Yeah, the flu kills the chickens but doesn't pose much risk to humans. It's also a respiratory virus and not one that develops in your digestive tract.

 

so the 70 or so humans that have contracted it - I know most are workers at these farms - but are we aware of any contracting through consuming commercially available eggs and pasteurized milk? I don't think so...? basically, are the eggs and pasteurized milk at HEB is unaffected.

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20 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Is it ultra pasteurized or ultra filtered?

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Anders Porter of Fairlife's Coopersville, Michigan, facility stated, "we separate the cream, filter, heat treat, homogenize, test and bottle the milk."[11] 

I’m just guessing, but my layman’s understanding is that heat treating is in fact pasteurization.   

They advertise as ultrafiltered

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Tangent:  My father died a bit over a week ago.  As my wife and I were taking care of immediate things in the house, that included checking the refrigerators for items that needed to be removed.  Turned out that he had 1 dozen eggs in the inside fridge, and another 18 pack in the outside fridge.  As I was talking with our probate attorney yesterday, I jokingly asked "shit, do I need to list those in the inventory of the estate?  That's like $100, right?"

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

Wild that the CDC and FDA have said nothing about this - it's already impacting the egg supply (if "we" still "care" about that "issue" lol), and is poised to impact milk supplies if it starts to impact cattle and taint milk. Even moreso if that milk is no longer being pasteurized. 

Fucks sake, man.

CDC’s website has been getting scrubbed clean of a shitload of useful information, and neither agency is allowed to communicate with the public without it being filtered through the White House.  Just the way things are now.

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13 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

CDC’s website has been getting scrubbed clean of a shitload of useful information, and neither agency is allowed to communicate with the public without it being filtered through the White House.  Just the way things are now.

CDC is now barred from releasing public health information. Good thing there isn’t any threat from Black Death. Oh, wait.

”A tuberculosis (TB) outbreak in Kansas City has become the largest documented TB outbreak on record in the United States.

Data on the outbreak from the Kansas Department of Health and Environment (KDHE) show that 67 active TB cases and 79 latent cases have been reported since the beginning of 2024 in Wyandotte and Johnson counties, which are part of the greater Kansas City area. Most of the cases have been in Wyandotte County. KDHE says it has been working with local health departments in response to the outbreak and is following guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to ensure patients are receiving proper treatment.”

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/tuberculosis/kansas-tuberculosis-outbreak-now-largest-us

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/hhs-memo-cdc-report-communications-trump-team-rcna188733

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I have been sick with respiratory illnesses twice in the past two months, once in December, getting over another now. That's never happened to me. My wife came down with something a couple weeks ago. Hit her pretty hard. She actually went to an urgent care and tested negative for both flu and COVID. All three instances we never passed anything to one another.

Rough season for sure.

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So since WHo has been tracking this, there have been 954 global cases, of which 464 were fatal or a 49% case fatality rate.  But in the US, there have been 67 cases and only 1 death for a 1.4% CFR.  I get that wealthy, developed countries with good health care systems would have a much lower CFR than average, but this still seems lower than what could be explained solely by that.  Anyone seen any discussions as to why?

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