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18 hours ago, Goofyboy said:

I want all of the anti-vax folks to be fired by their doctors.

Why would they "fire" their most lucrative patients?

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

The article won’t say it, but probably made the rounds in the private sex stalls at Buc-ees.

Welp, been nice knowing you guys.

 

27 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

With the measles cases at around 124 now, of course there is an internet push of disinformation by the anti-vaccine groups. Apparently the measles vaccine itself is responsible for the outbreak according to the Childrens' Defense Fund (the anti-vaccine group from which RFK Jr withdrew after being tabbed as Secretary). The Texas Dept. of Health has actually been testing all the cases and they've all been a known wild type strain and not the vaccine but health officials are going to be fighting on two fronts in trying to stop the spread.

Has Rogan weighed in on this?

My first reacting is to say, “Let them die,” and that’s wrong.  Lotsa kids out there unvaxxed because their parents are stupid.  (While many of those same parents were vaxxed by their own parents.). So the big losers here will be children.

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5 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Welp, been nice knowing you guys.

 

Has Rogan weighed in on this?

My first reacting is to say, “Let them die,” and that’s wrong.  Lotsa kids out there unvaxxed because their parents are stupid.  (While many of those same parents were vaxxed by their own parents.). So the big losers here will be children.

I've got an almost 10 month old that can't get the MMR vaccine yet. Do we fucking hide her away? I've got a Texas Exes event in Katy to play at this weekend and we want to bring her! But there's definitely a big overlap on venn diagram for "antivax", "bucees" and "Katy"

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3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Maternal antibodies FTW.

Very thankful for that. Still don't really wanna roll the dice on the motherfucking measles because some Karyn decided Aidyn doesn't need shots

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53 minutes ago, Girth Brooks said:

WTF is wrong with you Travis County? It isn't MAGA central

Way to tell us you've never heard of "horseshoe theory" and how dipshit granola hippies and MAGAs overlap on the dumbest things.  The lowest vax rates are in either public school districts that have a high hippie dippie population, or public school districts in hard MAGA areas and private schools (if you see "Christian Academy" in the name of the school, the vax rate will be below 70%).

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9 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Had someone tell me yesterday that the cause of the measles and tuberculosis outbreak was because of all the illegals coming over here... 

The irony being that Mexico and Central America have stellar vax rates.  And our border counties have vax rates that put them near the top of the state.

The problem isn't brown people.  The problem is almost entirely breathtakingly stupid white people.

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13 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

And UTSA and the riverwalk. Oh, and Buccees.

Saturday, Feb. 15:

10 a.m. to 4 p.m. – University of Texas at San Antonio main campus

2:30 to 7:30 p.m. – Louis Tussaud’s Waxworks, Ripley’s Believe It or Not, and Ripley’s Illusion Lab, all in San Antonio

6 to 10 p.m. – Mr. Crabby’s Seafood in Live Oak

 

 

I didn't know there were black Mennonites

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10 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Unvaccinated school aged child according to this link out of Lubbock: https://www.everythinglubbock.com/news/measles-outbreak/first-death-reported-in-west-texas-measles-outbreak/

An unvaccinated school-aged child who was hospitalized with measles has passed away, marking the first death in the outbreak, according to Lubbock and state health officials.

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7 minutes ago, Chips O'Toole said:

Devastating.  Hopefully this changes some parents' minds.  

It won't change a goddamned thing.  The dead kids actually tell us how right the anti-vaxxers are.

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

I've got an almost 10 month old that can't get the MMR vaccine yet. Do we fucking hide her away?

Have a conversation with your pediatrician; IIRC, they will sometimes give infants <1 year a killed vaccine or some other type of inoculation that isn't quite as robust as the regular MMR, but during an outbreak can give some immunity. Since I'm hazy on the deets, talk to your doctor about it...

2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Maternal antibodies FTW.

The infant is 10 months old and most maternal immunity (even if breastfed) tends to wane by 5-6 months IIRC. It isn't a hard and fast condition, but some of the studies have indicated that measles immunity is usually nil by the earlier time frame I listed. Which is why infants can be severely affected--they normally don't get the first shot until 12-15 months of age, second shot around kindergarten age.

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It won't change a goddamned thing.  The dead kids actually tell us how right the anti-vaxxers are.

God's will be done.

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Edit to add: the CDC suggests giving infants 6-11 months one dose of the MMR (NOT the MMRV) if traveling internationally, so it's possible to go ahead if the situation in Texas worsens.
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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

The irony being that Mexico and Central America have stellar vax rates.  And our border counties have vax rates that put them near the top of the state.

The problem isn't brown people.  The problem is almost entirely breathtakingly stupid white people.

Even if they are immigrants from across the border.

Shit, any proof the mennonites are citizens? Started in Germany, went to Russia's plains, to the US, to Mexico, back to the US. That is a lot of anchor babies.

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The article won’t say it, but probably made the rounds in the private sex stalls at Buc-ees.

At first, my interest was piqued. Then I remembered what the average Bucees customer looks like. I am no longer piqued.

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2 hours ago, Girth Brooks said:

WTF is wrong with you Travis County? It isn't MAGA central

Now 89.6% of kindergarteners are fully vaccinated in Travis County, 94.8% in Williamson County, 95.1% in Hays County, 94.9% in Bastrop County and 96.9% in Caldwell County. 

 

The far left have been leery of vaccines for a lot longer than the far right have. 

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

The far left have been leery of vaccines for a lot longer than the far right have. 

True.  Both groups are overwhelmingly populated by idiots.

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5 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

At first, my interest was piqued. Then I remembered what the average Bucees customer looks like. I am no longer piqued.

You’ve probably stumbled across a public sex stall at Bucees and didn’t realize it.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The irony being that Mexico and Central America have stellar vax rates.  And our border counties have vax rates that put them near the top of the state.

The problem isn't brown people.  The problem is almost entirely breathtakingly stupid white people.

Maybe they're too dumb to do the research or just ask questions?

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Posted
29 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

You’ve probably stumbled across a public sex stall at Bucees and didn’t realize it.

They are all public sex stalls. Glory holes in every one. They are owned by aggy. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Captainant said:

Very thankful for that. Still don't really wanna roll the dice on the motherfucking measles because some Karyn decided Aidyn doesn't need shots

I've got a 2 month old granddaughter so worry about that shit too.

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It’s unfortunate that a kid has died, because that means they are in the finding out phase of things, but hopefully this will be the wake-up call some need. The anti-vaccine morons seem to think this is just the flu with spots, but that whole brain swelling thing can fuck somebody up. While there are plenty of people willing to roll the dice with COVID and their own health, the idea of little kids dying from measles will wake up some of them.

Unfortunately it’s too late to shun the Mennonites.  That’s a pretty fucking big community out there, and we could easily have a few hundred kids infected  - 20% of the kids in that area are not vaccinated.  

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The irony being that Mexico and Central America have stellar vax rates.  And our border counties have vax rates that put them near the top of the state.

The problem isn't brown people.  The problem is almost entirely breathtakingly stupid white people.

I can not understand why any parent, obviously unless there are some underlying medical circumstances, would willingly not vaccinate their children.  I agree with you that those people are "breathtakingly stupid".  It is actually a problem and, statistically, is getting worse.  It is a real problem.

But, as has become typical for you and others on here, the rest of your post is just wildly inaccurate.  

https://www.unicef.org/lac/en/press-releases/latin-america-and-caribbean-records-worlds-biggest-drop-childhood-vaccination-over-past-decade

from the article: "New UNICEF report shows 1 in 4 children in the region are missing out on vital vaccines, setting immunization coverage rates back almost 30 years."

https://www.shadac.org/news/childhood-vaccinations-rate-by-state-ethnicity-insurance

Non-Hispanic White children had the highest rate of vaccination at 75.5%, followed by children of multiple races or some other race (non-Hispanic) at 72.8%, Hispanic/Latino children (any race) at 69.9%, and, finally, African-American/Black children at 66.5%. 

Hard to know the overall reason for the declines.  Money? Disinformation? Access? Breathtakingly stupid?  Surely a combination of all.  

But to suggest the problem is "almost entirely" white people is a loser take.

 

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9 minutes ago, sheeeit said:

I can not understand why any parent, obviously unless there are some underlying medical circumstances, would willingly not vaccinate their children.  I agree with you that those people are "breathtakingly stupid".  It is actually a problem and, statistically, is getting worse.  It is a real problem.

But, as has become typical for you and others on here, the rest of your post is just wildly inaccurate.  

https://www.unicef.org/lac/en/press-releases/latin-america-and-caribbean-records-worlds-biggest-drop-childhood-vaccination-over-past-decade

from the article: "New UNICEF report shows 1 in 4 children in the region are missing out on vital vaccines, setting immunization coverage rates back almost 30 years."

https://www.shadac.org/news/childhood-vaccinations-rate-by-state-ethnicity-insurance

Non-Hispanic White children had the highest rate of vaccination at 75.5%, followed by children of multiple races or some other race (non-Hispanic) at 72.8%, Hispanic/Latino children (any race) at 69.9%, and, finally, African-American/Black children at 66.5%. 

Hard to know the overall reason for the declines.  Money? Disinformation? Access? Breathtakingly stupid?  Surely a combination of all.  

But to suggest the problem is "almost entirely" white people is a loser take.

 

Interesting.  Thanks for posting those numbers.  It looks like, among children already in the US, the point of correlation for lower vs. higher rates is medicaid vs. private coverage.  If you are in a situation where you are stable enough, have private medical coverage, and the like, you're more likely to be vaccinated than someone on medicaid, which correlates to lower income which correlates to lower family stability/means/involvement.

The declining rate in latin america is much more troubling, because the region historically had among the HIGHEST rates of vaccination:

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“For years, countries in Latin America and the Caribbean had some of the world’s highest childhood vaccination rates. Now the region has some of the lowest. This is one of the most serious childhood immunization crises the region has seen in almost 30 years,” said Garry Conille, UNICEF Regional Director for Latin America and the Caribbean. “Diseases like diphtheria, measles and polio, once thought eradicated in many countries, are making a comeback across the region, putting the lives of the most marginalized children – and everyone’s well-being – at risk.” 

Latin America and the Caribbean’s decline in childhood immunization may be driven by multiple factors. On the one hand, natural disasters, violence, urbanization, instability, and migration have all contributed to growing inequalities. Uneven public spending in health across the region and reduced investment in some countries has left the most marginalized communities cut off from quality primary health care. The COVID-19 pandemic exacerbated these challenges, interrupting childhood vaccination due to intense demands on health systems and stay-at-home measures. There are also signs of declining vaccination confidence in some countries in recent years. 

That said, there is no credible tie of this particular outbreak to illegal border crossings and the like.  It kicked off in a community of heavily unvaccinated people who most/all have legal status in the US.  Oh, and those Mennonites be super white.  Their spanish is excellent, though.

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Interesting.  Thanks for posting those numbers.  It looks like, among children already in the US, the point of correlation for lower vs. higher rates is medicaid vs. private coverage.  If you are in a situation where you are stable enough, have private medical coverage, and the like, you're more likely to be vaccinated than someone on medicaid, which correlates to lower income which correlates to lower family stability/means/involvement.

The declining rate in latin america is much more troubling, because the region historically had among the HIGHEST rates of vaccination:

That said, there is no credible tie of this particular outbreak to illegal border crossings and the like.  It kicked off in a community of heavily unvaccinated people who most/all have legal status in the US.  Oh, and those Mennonites be super white.  Their spanish is excellent, though.

I agree completely that as of now there is no tie to illegal border crossings and I think anyone making those is being deliberately obtuse.

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