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Drug resistant gonorrhea?  How quickly can Surly create and distribute an ivermectin vaginal suppository to sell to the rubes?

It’s not like we have to worry about FDA approval anymore.   We’re gonna need all of the wreath refund money and a couple swabs from Vic.

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2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Drug resistant gonorrhea?  How quickly can Surly create and distribute an ivermectin vaginal suppository to sell to the rubes?

It’s not like we have to worry about FDA approval anymore.   We’re gonna need all of the wreath refund money and a couple swabs from Vic.

They’ll just pack it with horse paste if the right person says it’s ok

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7 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

They’ll just pack it with horse paste if the right person says it’s ok

“MAGA Ivermectin Suppository For Promise Ring Malfunctions”

You bring up an excellent point. It’s still all in the marketing.

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No update from @Mrs Whiggins today, so I guess I'll jump in.

I didn't check stuff on Friday (that DSHS update is gone), so here's how things have changed since last Tuesday (screenshot found in the spoiler).

  • Up to 505 cases, an increase of 83 (22%) since this time last week.
  • Two new counties with cases: Randall (suburban-ish Amarillo/Canyon); Borden (total pop. 572)


    Counties ranked by new cases:
    Gaines (Seminole): +48
    Lubbock: +9
    Dawson (Lamesa): +6
    Terry (Brownfield): +5
    Hale (Plainview): +4
    Ector (Odessa): +3
    Cochran (Morton): +2
    Borden (Gail), Hockley (Levelland), Lamar (Paris), Lynn (Tahoka), Randall (Amarillo/Canyon), Yoakum (Denver City): +1

NO CHANGE: Andrews, Brown (Brownwood), Dallam (southside of Dalhart), Erath (Stephenville), Garza (Post), Lamb (Littlefield), Martin (Stanton), Midland

 

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Thank you, @bolverk for the update; Friday had 481 cases but easy to miss as I haven't been including the graphics.

It's annoying that DHHS doesn't archive their updates and I suspect that is not likely to change given reasons I won't bother with at this time.

ABC news had an article discussing the outbreak specific to the region (southwest/midwest) here:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/rfk-jr-claims-curve-flattening-texas-measles-outbreak/story?id=120554374

and it goes into the likelihood of cases being undercounted, something with which most of us are familiar. Southwestern Kansas has seen cases increase, and again, given that region's lower population base, one hopes that will limit spread, but it's not a given. A Lubbock daycare had 7 children (many were too young to have been fully vaccinated) infected. That's alarming.

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2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

A Lubbock daycare had 7 children (many were too young to have been fully vaccinated) infected. That's alarming.

That probably points to older siblings not being vaccinated.

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El Paso's on deck with three new cases. Gaines County continues to see the most infections (75% of new ones since Tuesday), with 27 new cases.

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Here are New Mexico's numbers. Lea County (Hobbs/Lovington) is just west of Gaines County.

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Okies won't say where their cases are, but I think it was mentioned a while back they were somewhere in northeastern Oklahoma.

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Southwest Kansas outbreak.

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Three cases total are reported in Colorado: Pueblo, Denver, and Pagosa Springs.

So far as I know, all the above in these other states can be traced to the outbreak in Gaines County.

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Overdue for a TDAP, so went and got it just now. Went ahead and got an MMR because I couldn't recall if I had both shots a half century ago, although I think I had to have proof start classes at UT? I recall getting something at the Health Center my first day on campus (insert STD joke here).

tl, dr; fuck this timeline

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19 hours ago, bolverk said:

Okies won't say where their cases are, but I think it was mentioned a while back they were somewhere in northeastern Oklahoma.

Once again, thank you for the update. Oklahoma is predictably stupid about not reporting counties; but the only way one could even try and suss out potential locations is by tracking exposure sites that the media shared. Recently, they've had some exposures in OKC, so speculation might be that those are Kansas cases traveling southward to the nearest metro area for care. (Although Stillwater would be more likely). I haven't followed theirs as closely. One of the news agencies mentioned northeastern Oklahoma and specifically mentioned Weatherford which is NOT northeastern Oklahoma (that would be like Tulsa or Bartlesville) and once again proves the issue with a)fact checking no longer being a thing and b) the giant corps like Fox buying stations coast to coast is shit for true and accurate news.

 

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30 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Once again, thank you for the update. Oklahoma is predictably stupid about not reporting counties; but the only way one could even try and suss out potential locations is by tracking exposure sites that the media shared. Recently, they've had some exposures in OKC, so speculation might be that those are Kansas cases traveling southward to the nearest metro area for care. (Although Stillwater would be more likely). I haven't followed theirs as closely. One of the news agencies mentioned northeastern Oklahoma and specifically mentioned Weatherford which is NOT northeastern Oklahoma (that would be like Tulsa or Bartlesville) and once again proves the issue with a)fact checking no longer being a thing and b) the giant corps like Fox buying stations coast to coast is shit for true and accurate news.

Northwestern Oklahoma around Weatherford would make a lot more geographic sense.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-cruise-ship-inspectors-layoffs-outbreaks-norovirus/

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All of the full-time employees in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Vessel Sanitation Program are now off the job, multiple officials tell CBS News, gutting the agency's ability to investigate outbreaks and conduct health inspections on cruise ships. A smaller group of 12 U.S. Public Health Service officers will remain.

The steep cuts to the program's inspectors baffled CDC officials since the small team's staff is not paid for by taxpayer dollars. Fees from cruise ships companies pay for the program, which is supposed to inspect large vessels at least twice a year.

 

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1 hour ago, Willfully Horn said:

From deep within the glow of the golden era you can hear a voice: we have a long way to go, statistically, before anyone else dies from measles. 
 

RFK: Hold my bear.

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I would honestly not give a shit if this blew through the anti-vaxxers and dropped them like flies.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of babies/kids that are unable to get the full vaccine until they are old enough, and so fuck this people for putting them at risk.

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7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I would honestly not give a shit if this blew through the anti-vaxxers and dropped them like flies.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of babies/kids that are unable to get the full vaccine until they are old enough, and so fuck this people for putting them at risk.

I certainly blame the parents. It's horrible kids will die because their parents won't let them get vaccinated. When is RFKJr headed to Gaines county to force these people to get vaccinated? That's what he should be doing.

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10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I would honestly not give a shit if this blew through the anti-vaxxers and dropped them like flies.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of babies/kids that are unable to get the full vaccine until they are old enough, and so fuck this people for putting them at risk.

Measles can infect the vaccinated, just at a much lower rate (same with pretty much all other vaccines)

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14 hours ago, HenryJames said:

And I assume a stacked measles and whooping cough infection is especially bad?

11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I would honestly not give a shit if this blew through the anti-vaxxers and dropped them like flies.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of babies/kids that are unable to get the full vaccine until they are old enough, and so fuck this people for putting them at risk.

I'd love to see stats on the percent of anti-vaxxers who are vaxxed themselves.  

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On 4/11/2025 at 12:39 PM, bolverk said:

El Paso's on deck with three new cases. Gaines County continues to see the most infections (75% of new ones since Tuesday), with 27 new cases.

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Twenty new cases over the weekend, with Reeves County (Pecos) now on the board, reporting one case.

Counties previously reporting cases:

  • Gaines County (Seminole): +9
  • El Paso County: +4
  • Lubbock County: +3
  • Andrews County, Cochran County (Morton), Midland County: +1
     

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Transcript of an interview from yesterday that NPR did with Dr. Peter Marks, who is the former Director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research and who was just pushed out of that role last month.

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https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1244690933
KELLY: It's CONSIDER THIS FROM NPR.

Measles is an extremely contagious disease. It is also extremely preventable. The vaccine is highly effective. For decades, it has made measles outbreaks in the U.S. relatively rare, and measles deaths rarer still. That is why public health experts say vaccination is a critical part of getting the current outbreaks under control.

Secretary Kennedy has a decadeslong history of undermining confidence in vaccines. So how is his department handling this outbreak? For one view on that, I spoke with Dr. Peter Marks. He was the top vaccine regulator at the FDA until he was forced out last month after clashing with Kennedy.

May I begin with what happened last month? You had been in this top vaccine job at the FDA since 2016. Why did you leave?

PETER MARKS: You know, it wasn't an elective departure, but it was one that became clear that it was going to happen based on an accelerating number of events that seem to be conspiring against vaccines in this country.

KELLY: Can you briefly walk us through what you were not on board with that you saw happening?

MARKS: We, I think, need to focus on what is in front of us right now in the world, which is right now we have outbreak of measles in the United States. We have other infectious diseases which are potentially preventable with vaccines. And we have vaccines for these infectious diseases that are both safe and effective.

KELLY: May I - and I want to get into everything that you're setting us up to discuss about vaccines, but I do have another question about the circumstances of your departure. The HHS put out a statement in which they said, if you do not want to "get behind restoring science to its golden standard and promoting radical transparency, then he," meaning you, Dr. Marks, "he has no place at FDA under the strong leadership of Secretary Kennedy," end quote. May I ask your response?

MARKS: Yeah, so I'm happy to respond to that. Anybody who knows me knows that that is Orwellian speak because they know that I am somebody that is guided by the science and that will follow the science in support of doing what is right and in support of my Hippocratic oath as a physician. So I view that as something that I'd rather just move past because dwelling on that is not going to help save the next child that's likely to die from measles in the next two to four weeks in the United States, based on the current epidemic curve.

KELLY: Let me focus us on these measles outbreaks. The epicenter is in Texas, in rural West Texas. How satisfied are you with the federal response?

MARKS: I believe that the federal response has been tepid at best. It is not the type of forceful response that's necessary now that we have outbreaks of at least three cases in at least seven jurisdictions. There are many other states that have isolated cases. And not every case is reported to CDC, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and we estimate that the actual number of cases is probably roughly five times as many as has been reported to CDC.

KELLY: So you're dealing, as ever, with imperfect data. What would a forceful response look like?

MARKS: A forceful response involves going into the various states, working with the states to find the best way to get across the message for vaccination in that particular state because this particular vaccine has benefits that so greatly outweigh the risks. I need to say it as many times as I can; the vaccine doesn't kill children, the vaccine doesn't cause encephalitis, and the vaccine doesn't cause autism. OK? The vaccine has some transient, short-lived adverse effects in about 15 to 20 per hundred thousand. But compare that to a hundred to a hundred and twenty deaths per hundred thousand children who get measles, and this is a remarkably good vaccine. But we should remember that...

KELLY: Can I just jump in there? - because some of what you're saying is directly at odds with recent remarks by Secretary Kennedy. So I just want to line up what you're saying with what he has said and let you respond. I mean, Secretary Kennedy has said he supports the measles vaccine. He's on the record in his confirmation hearing saying that. He has encouraged the public to get the vaccine. He has also said that the protection offered by the MMR vaccine - measles, mumps, rubella - that it wanes very rapidly. Is that true?

MARKS: That's a false statement. Two doses of this vaccine provides essentially lifelong immunity. That kind of statement, as well as the statements about how the vaccine doesn't give good maternal transfer of antibodies to a neonate as well as natural measles infection, those are just ways to discourage vaccination. And so that subtle way of, I encourage vaccination, but maybe it's not such a great idea - that's not how we do public health messaging.

KELLY: Another point that Kennedy has made is talking about the benefits of infection. I'm referencing an interview he gave to Fox in which he said, you know, back in the day, everybody got measles. Measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection, and the vaccine doesn't do that. Dr. Marks, your response?

MARKS: OK, so if we want to go back to a time when we got our drinking water from the same place that we put our sewage, we can go ahead and do that. But we have made tremendous public health advances. One of them is vaccination. Vaccines that we have that come through the FDA approval process in the United States have been determined to have benefits that greatly outweigh risks. Measles vaccine provides protection - nearly lifelong - against a virus that kills, otherwise, about one in a thousand children who get the virus. So if we decide that we want everyone to get the measles so they have lifelong protection, it means that one child out of every thousand will die. Those are healthy children.

KELLY: When and how do you see this current measles outbreak ending?

MARKS: Well, I think what's probably going to happen is at some point, after a few more children die, someone will really get activated, and we will have the kind of robust public health response that we need. I hope that happens before too many children's lives are lost.

KELLY: But you think that's what it's going to take - more children dying? It's such an awful thought.

MARKS: I would have thought that after a second child died we would have all been activated to do this. But it seems like because it's being normalized as, well, children die of measles, this is something I truly worry about, and it actually keeps me up nights some because there is no reason in the United States for us to have a single child die of measles.

KELLY: Dr. Peter Marks - he was, until last month, the top vaccine regulator at the Food and Drug Administration. Dr. Marks, thank you.

MARKS: Thank you so much for having me.

 

 

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