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Just now, perfectchaos007 said:

She said she chose OU because she likes playing fast and their playing style matches what she likes 

Yep, if Vic played a different style to her liking she would be here.. I think Vic adapts to what his personnel is. Strength of this team is the interior so he rolls with that. Excited to see how far this team goes, and we will be fine regardless in recruiting. 

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1 minute ago, perfectchaos007 said:

She said she chose OU because she likes playing fast and their playing style matches what she likes 

Not a surprise. Not sure who made the final decision, though. Dad seems to be the definition of helicopter parent. Whatever. Can’t see how the other players will like an 18 year old calling the shots. 

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Sports Illustrated predicted she’d be coming to Texas yesterday….guess they really didn’t have a clue….now, which parent(s) moves to Norman?

Now, she’s got the whole state of Texas against her!

Did Love contribute to her NIL?

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Hate to say it, but I suspect OU will be a legit threat. They're already around Top 15 level, not way below us in a general sense. With the way the game is ramping up in terms of scoring and pace, even without Chavez they're no pushover. I certainly doubt they'll beat UConn, but if they do I give them more than a puncher's chance against the KSU-USC winner. Already looking forward to the battles between Chavez and  Preston/Harmon. 

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Assuming she is the next Caitlyn Clark, OU is a lock for a couple of final fours over the next 3-4 years. OU talent is ahead of Iowa’s before Clark came in. 
 

She chose OU because of money and also she’ll have a better shot at breaking some offensive records with their fast pace offense 

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4 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Hearing she had demanded $1.5M…not sure if true…

Michael Jordan got involved and facetimed how he wanted her to represent his brand.. think Nakos tweeted that it's expected that she signs a long term deal with Jordan

 

She was getting paid regardless, if it wasn't Jordan, it was Nike.. it's the reason why Tech was on the outside looking in due to their relationship with Adidas.

 

Wonder how Nike feels since they were the ones who put an investment into her AAU and gym training?

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5 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Assuming she is the next Caitlyn Clark, OU is a lock for a couple of final fours over the next 3-4 years. OU talent is ahead of Iowa’s before Clark came in. 
 

She chose OU because of money and also she’ll have a better shot at breaking some offensive records with their fast pace offense 

I’m not a big girls high school follower but tap the breaks on ou going to final fours all of a sudden - I could be wrong but it seems ou won’t have enough defense to make final fours and if they did won’t win without somewhat of a defense - if I’m wrong, it’s women’s bball. University of Texas will be fine as most blue bloods will be I’m sure. 

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42 minutes ago, Pancho said:

It feels like they are going to try and Clark their way to FFs and NCs and I don’t see that happening 

Nah. They're a good but not great team. She'll be good for an extra 3-4 games, but she's not willing that team to the FF. This isn't HS. We have 5* players all over the place, and we landed the #4 player in Aaliyah Crump. 

8 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

Hate to say it, but I suspect OU will be a legit threat. They're already around Top 15 level, not way below us in a general sense. With the way the game is ramping up in terms of scoring and pace, even without Chavez they're no pushover. I certainly doubt they'll beat UConn, but if they do I give them more than a puncher's chance against the KSU-USC winner. Already looking forward to the battles between Chavez and  Preston/Harmon. 

I know people are mad or whatever, but like I said im the above quote - this isn't HS. I'm sure she'll be good, but OU as a whole doesn't have a ton of great players, hence why they're a 3 seed with 7 losses. Vic loads up yearly, so I'm not really concerned with her at this point. Quinn was the highest rated QB in the modern era, and he did ok, but not what was expected of him. Who knows how she'll fare? CBB is much more faster paced, and she'll have to go through us, USCE, LSU, Ole Miss, etc. 

She can't be a one person threat and will her team. She needs the right pieces around her, and even then they're not great plauers. They're good, but not great. They're not a threat to us, even with her. 

And lastly, good luck to her. She made her choice, so enjoy Oklahoma and their visitor center of trailer parks in Norman and OKC. I'm sure she won't be out of place coming from West Texas. 

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8 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

Michael Jordan got involved and facetimed how he wanted her to represent his brand.. think Nakos tweeted that it's expected that she signs a long term deal with Jordan

 

She was getting paid regardless, if it wasn't Jordan, it was Nike.. it's the reason why Tech was on the outside looking in due to their relationship with Adidas.

 

Wonder how Nike feels since they were the ones who put an investment into her AAU and gym training?

Trey Young was quite involved too. KD needs to care more 

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Or Vic just needs to open up his offense and get some shooters, even if it’s a few, which I do think he tried to do but we’re gonna need more than just one. 
 

The game is changing and what makes most coaches good is they adapt. Not “it’s my way or the highway “ 

 

I think Vic is smart enough to know that and will adapt specially losing Chavez , I think this may open his eyes 

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12 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

I’m not a big girls high school follower but tap the breaks on ou going to final fours all of a sudden - I could be wrong but it seems ou won’t have enough defense to make final fours and if they did won’t win without somewhat of a defense - if I’m wrong, it’s women’s bball. University of Texas will be fine as most blue bloods will be I’m sure. 

I was just making the observation that OU has more talent than Iowa, and Clark took Iowa to 2 championship games. IF Chavez is on Clark’s level, then I don’t see why OU wouldn’t also make a couple of final 4s.
 

Let’s also tap the breaks on calling our women’s basketball a blue blood. We have exactly 1 national championship in program history. I know that we act like we have a trophy case full of them because Joni Conradt has been deified as a title 9 hero on the 40 acres , but that didn’t come with a slew of titles 

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2 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

Ew. 

Exactly my thought. Almost any other school would have been more palatable. She goes from the "missing piece" for Texas to get over the hump and now she lands at fucking OU and we must play her at least twice a season. 

Oh well, even if she's the next Caitlin Clark, let's roll the ball out there and lock her ass down. Thankfully, we're a defensively-oriented team and can find offensive pieces and shooters elsewhere.

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1 minute ago, speed817 said:

OU has just decided to give up on men's sports and go all in on NIL for women's sports

I believe you are right…..for softball, gymnastics and basketball…..but, there are no guarantees….would that explain the Love donations?

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18 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Trey Young was quite involved too. KD needs to care more 

Yeah he was.. but saying KD needs to do the same thing is a stretch.  Him just being around the program and checking out games from time to time is enough.

 

Don't think KD would have changed this recruitment because ou really did have a lot in it's favor on the court. KD brand isn't MJ.. and MJ put his money where his mouth was and got her to not only sign with ou but to his brand as well.

 

Sucks but we will be fine, I hope she does do well because she's the face of latinas playing basketball.. i have a daughter that plays in the AAU circuit.. Need Chavez to do her thing so we can break the stereotype that our girls can't ball.

 

But I need her to have her worst games in her losses to us every time we meet on the court #HookEm 

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Chavez is quick on the ball, so If Rory comes back, I don’t think she’ll be able to prevent Chavez from getting good looks. I have more faith in Preston getting under Chavez’s skin on perimeter defense.  Preston has the speed and quick twitch needed to contain someone like Chavez 

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10 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Chavez is quick on the ball, so If Rory comes back, I don’t think she’ll be able to prevent Chavez from getting good looks. I have more faith in Preston getting under Chavez’s skin on perimeter defense.  Preston has the speed and quick twitch needed to contain someone like Chavez 

Or just put her one on one against Oldacre, she will eat Chavez up on the perimeter and in the paint!!!

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Chavez at OU and I still feel like Texas has the advantage and better team.  Doesn't mean she won't beat us, just don't think she can do it consistently.  Had she come to Texas I would say that OU would not have a chance in the series until she left.

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7 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

Or just put her one on one against Oldacre, she will eat Chavez up on the perimeter and in the paint!!!

lol. Oldacre is the 2nd line of defense. If she blows by Preston, Oldacre will be waiting for her in the paint 

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2 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

lol. Oldacre is the 2nd line of defense. If she blows by Preston, Oldacre will be waiting for her in the paint 

lol yeah man i was just teasing..love Oldacre, just hope the refs readjust their whistles.. poor woman gets so many bad calls on her during gameday just because of her size.  It's like we are reliving the prime Shaq years in the NBA 

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8 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

So, she doesn’t care if her team wins, as long as she’s playing fast?   Got it.

Well that and she is getting paid the entirety of OU's women's basketball NIL fund

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7 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

I was just making the observation that OU has more talent than Iowa, and Clark took Iowa to 2 championship games. IF Chavez is on Clark’s level, then I don’t see why OU wouldn’t also make a couple of final 4s.
 

Let’s also tap the breaks on calling our women’s basketball a blue blood. We have exactly 1 national championship in program history. I know that we act like we have a trophy case full of them because Joni Conradt has been deified as a title 9 hero on the 40 acres , but that didn’t come with a slew of titles 

How about this: ou already has a high powered offense. How much hotter can Chavez make it?  They play little defense. Will she be interested in helping in that area at all?  How much of an impact will she have on that program that already loses before the EE/FF weekend. 
 

I think she’d have had a larger impact at Texas. 

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8 hours ago, D3zii said:

Or Vic just needs to open up his offense and get some shooters, even if it’s a few, which I do think he tried to do but we’re gonna need more than just one. 
 

The game is changing and what makes most coaches good is they adapt. Not “it’s my way or the highway “ 

 

I think Vic is smart enough to know that and will adapt specially losing Chavez , I think this may open his eyes 

Vic isn't stubborn, he knows the game is moving in a different direction. He missed out in Chavez, but we have a *tean* that plays together with mostly 5 stars. He'll adapt. He's the reason we made the elite eight in year one. He's a brilliant guy. 

8 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

I was just making the observation that OU has more talent than Iowa, and Clark took Iowa to 2 championship games. IF Chavez is on Clark’s level, then I don’t see why OU wouldn’t also make a couple of final 4s.
 

Let’s also tap the breaks on calling our women’s basketball a blue blood. We have exactly 1 national championship in program history. I know that we act like we have a trophy case full of them because Joni Conradt has been deified as a title 9 hero on the 40 acres , but that didn’t come with a slew of titles 

I would rap the breaks on ou has more talent than Iowa. Clark isn't the sole reason the made it to the FF and NC game. She had players around her who knew their job. I'm not sure Baranczyk has that luxury. 

8 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

I believe you are right…..for softball, gymnastics and basketball…..but, there are no guarantees….would that explain the Love donations?

God I can't wait until we get a gymnastics team. That burnt orange on those smoke shows will attract itself. CDC has made it known he will go get the best and I hope it's the LSU coach. 

7 hours ago, txhorns said:

Chavez at OU and I still feel like Texas has the advantage and better team.  Doesn't mean she won't beat us, just don't think she can do it consistently.  Had she come to Texas I would say that OU would not have a chance in the series until she left.

OU isn't beating us even with Chavez. Vic has a well oiled machine, and we're lightyears ahead of their program. The only teams that CAN beat us are other power programs that we've also beaten. Ou isn't and will not be in that discussion. 

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Chavez has an interesting backstory for sure. No high level athletes in her family tree, got a late start playing basketball, trained primarily by her dad who had no basketball playing experience. She still became a record setting scorer and the #1 recruit in the country. And will probably at worst be a decently good player at the D1 college level. You’d never see that kind of story in male sports. 

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23 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Assuming she is the next Caitlyn Clark, OU is a lock for a couple of final fours over the next 3-4 years. OU talent is ahead of Iowa’s before Clark came in. 
 

She chose OU because of money and also she’ll have a better shot at breaking some offensive records with their fast pace offense 

She's a great shooter but I don't think she's close to a distributor as Clark is.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

She's a great shooter but I don't think she's close to a distributor as Clark is.

Nah, she just wants to shoot.  Her teammates will quickly tire of her ball hogging and jacking up shots. 

No one is a facilitator + scorer like Clark is. 

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5 hours ago, Helobious said:

Chavez has an interesting backstory for sure. No high level athletes in her family tree, got a late start playing basketball, trained primarily by her dad who had no basketball playing experience. She still became a record setting scorer and the #1 recruit in the country. And will probably at worst be a decently good player at the D1 college level. You’d never see that kind of story in male sports. 

Not sure how much of this narrative I’m supposed to match up, but Olajuwon didn’t play basketball until age 15. 

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48 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Nah, she just wants to shoot.  Her teammates will quickly tire of her ball hogging and jacking up shots. 

No one is a facilitator + scorer like Clark is. 

Not trying to cope, but your point brings up the possibility Chavez may repel high level recruits for the next few years if she’s a ball hawk. OU will live and die by how well she plays each game. I could actually see a scenario where she has the best talent around her for her freshman year with deteriorating returns until she leaves. If nothing else, Vic doesn’t have to worry about the possibility of his team turning into a one woman show 

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3 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Not trying to cope, but your point brings up the possibility Chavez may repel high level recruits for the next few years if she’s a ball hawk. OU will live and die by how well she plays each game. I could actually see a scenario where she has the best talent around her for her freshman year with deteriorating returns until she leaves. If nothing else, Vic doesn’t have to worry about the possibility of his team turning into a one woman show 

Your coach defers to her, her dad won’t go away, and she’s making way more than you.

That’s a recipe for locker room issues. I’d actually worry she’d bail out of Vic’s program because no one is bigger than the whole team. 

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I desperately wanted Chavez to come here, but thought that the chances of her portalling out here were greater than say at OU.

She wanted a place to “play her game” and showcase her considerable offensive skills. Her game is being "the show", and there’s nothing wrong with that. She is amazing.

Madi came here to grow her game and learn and she is getting better each game. She talks about wanting to play D as hard as Harmon. With Vic, first you show you are willing to hustle and play D (cough..Justice…cough) as well as play team ball.  Your offense needs to fit into the system.

I could see Aaliyah and Vic butting heads easily, but he was obviously willing to try and make it work.

Add a few key pieces and this "team" will best "the show".

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I'm still a Carlton fan, because I think she has it in her. But we'll see if she turns up the intensity before next season. If not, she needs to go "All Gas(ton), No Brakes" to a program less demanding. Winning in the SEC is a grown woman's game. 

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The more I read about the decision, and about people's opinions on Aaliyah's game, it really just reminds me of LaMelo Ball and the whole AAU generation. She wants to "run" and play uptempo offense. She wants the ball in her hands, ready to shoot on any possession. LaMelo is having a hell of a time in Charlotte averaging 25 ppg on 40% shooting (career low), building his brand as a young star with another Top 5 pick....... who combined will win less than 25 games this year. OU might just be along for the brand-building ride like the Hornets are. Others will enjoy winning championships while she gains fans. Good for them. Let's be the ones building a team. 

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3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Not sure how much of this narrative I’m supposed to match up, but Olajuwon didn’t play basketball until age 15. 

Tim Duncan. Joel Embiid. Giannis. 

But yeah outside of those four NBA superstars it never happens!

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3 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

if she’s a ball hawk.

Assuming you mean ball hog? Lol. 

But yeah I think y'all nailed it on Chavez. Her male equivalent would be the type of player to skip college entirely and commit to the G League. 

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