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15 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

I’ll take a ten point win on road against Arky while kneeling in scoring position all day long.  Ewers needs to play a little better 

I think the only thing lacking is his long ball. That's important, but doesn't change how well he leads receivers and finds the right receiver. The drops killed some of our possessions.

Count me among the happy for coming away with a win. I don't care about covering or any betting shit. I think Arkansas is the most fanatical effort we face all season when we play there. I say that fully aware of the OU game. 

I'm glad the game is back. I saw a lot of good Texas Arkansas games back with Akers and Holtz. The 1969 game is one of the first games I watched on TV and knew what was going on.

The Aggies have been a joke most of my life.

Anyways, feeling good about the win after the third quarter scare.

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6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

If we had a QB worth a fuck it would have been out of reach in q2

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Sure, if you told me before the game we won by 10, I would take it. 

But then you actually watch the game 5-10 minutes in and see: 

1. Environment at stadium was manageable and not intimidating 

2. Arkansas was not playing with their hair on fire 

3. Our defense was easily holding down Green and Arkansas' offense 

4. Quinn was not getting pressured that much 

 

That should be a recipe for a comfortable win. And we didn't do it. I think it says a lot that Pittman was ready to drain 2nd half clock coming out of halftime. He knew that was the only chance they had, and it got hairy for us for a little while. If we play reasonably well on offense. 

 

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Agreed that it looks like a recipe for a comfortable win, and agree with the individual points ... or at least that things LOOKED like that from the comfort of my living room. But even large-screen, high-def views don't tell any of us the complete picture of what's going on down there.

"Could have" is probably more accurate than "should have" in the end. Because it could have gone the other way. "Should have" is the attitude you want your team to have going into every game, but the bottom line is that we're one of the few one-loss majors sitting in this position in a highly competitive field. We've hit on two of what used to be the big three games with spitfire opponents and the opportunity for number three coming up.

I'm not complaining. Might have been griping mentally, even out loud, a little bit yesterday in the middle part of the game. But when it came down to it, the Horns took care of their business and the end of that game was a highly satisfactory exclamation point on a big win.

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1 hour ago, B00M said:

Compared to this year’s, sure, but compared to the last 20 years of Texas football? You go too far sir.

Maybe. But there was definitely a pattern where we would build a lead and then start giving up lots of big plays to let the other team back in the game.

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51 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I think the only thing lacking is his long ball. That's important, but doesn't change how well he leads receivers and finds the right receiver. The drops killed some of our possessions.

I know I'm a broken record but the other thing is attacking the medium depth middle of the defense. From what I can tell that's a combination of Ewers and Sarkisian and it is severely limiting the offense. Defenses are able to essentially ignore that area and it is killing our run game and even the short flat stuff that we love as safeties and backers are completely unafraid to abandon the middle to crash the line of scrimmage and/or cover the outside thirds.

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I just took the lazy way of finding out how many times the Horns have beaten Arkansas, Oklahoma and A&M in a single season. The AI bot tells me it's happened three times in our long history. That's pretty damned rare, and we've got a great chance of accomplishing it again.

Part of me says that's not right. Seems like it should have happened at least a couple more times since 1893. Regardless, it's fairly rare, and that should tell us all a lot about the difficulty of getting to where we are now.

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12 hours ago, immamac said:

This is good old fashioned fantastic hate that didn't go outside of football or that day, but just a hilarious day where you are ruthless to someone because of the team they root for. 

This type of stuff is fantastic memories and it's no harm no foul. 

aggy is gonna be different. They are going to physically assault people and say very fucking unfunny things that aren't a joke and across the line. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I know I'm a broken record but the other thing is attacking the medium depth middle of the defense. From what I can tell that's a combination of Ewers and Sarkisian and it is severely limiting the offense. Defenses are able to essentially ignore that area and it is killing our run game and even the short flat stuff that we love as safeties and backers are completely unafraid to abandon the middle to crash the line of scrimmage and/or cover the outside thirds.

100%. 

The middle of the field is wide open the entire game. Ewers is unwilling to punish teams with his legs. The amount of space Ewers has to scramble up the middle is insane throughout our games. 

He should be rushing for 50 yards without even being touched the way teams are defending the middle of the field. 

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14 hours ago, CastHorn said:

That was a good team. This Hog team lost to an Oklahoma State team with 3 wins. I’m not interested in y’all’s mental gymnastics. I already said I’m along for the ride, I’m just disgruntled is all. My disgruntled meter is elevating watching another team drive on UGA, something we couldn’t do without personal foul calls. 

I don't get the pleasure a fan like you gets out of a season. You're not alone in your attitude. I'm not scolding you for lack of school spirit; I'm just truly mystified about the difference in which we experience a season. 

I also don't want to go "a win is win. E'erbody be happy." I hated the shit fights with lousy teams we always ended up in with Strong and Herman. How many times can a 21-point lead turn into a white-knuckler? Fuck!

We're 9-1 and ranked in the top five. It's a weird year in college football because the season is almost over and it's difficult to tell how good anybody really is. That includes us. I think it's a great thing for the first season with a 12 team playoff. I'm having fun.

Maybe I'm a low-expectation motherfucker (thanks, Chris Rock). You seem like someone who could manage to be disappointed in a championship team that is less than perfect. Sounds miserable to me, but there's all sorts of things about the humans that are mysterious.

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13 hours ago, Cajun said:

Then it has changed.  Last time I was there was when VY took their souls and still remember two very distinct Fayettenam experiences after the game.  

The first was some dude who yelled at Lat22 & me walking back toward Dickson St - "Hey Longhorn, I hope you both get in a car wreck and die tonight!"

The second was while I was pissing next to another Horn fan at some outdoor beer joint where the stall had just two urinals with a foot of space between them.  Some dude who looked like a roadie for Skynrd sticks his head in between the urinals looking back up at both of us and says, "Hey LONGHORNS, you didn't cover the spread!!!"  His face was getting splattered the whole time down there.  He didn't care.

Couldn't make that shit up if I tried.

Yep. The hostility was real. Some stations in Arkansas wouldn't sell gas to people with Texas plates on their cars.

I'm glad it's changed to something a little more garden variety.

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34 minutes ago, Hayduke said:

I just took the lazy way of finding out how many times the Horns have beaten Arkansas, Oklahoma and A&M in a single season. The AI bot tells me it's happened three times in our long history. That's pretty damned rare, and we've got a great chance of accomplishing it again.

Part of me says that's not right. Seems like it should have happened at least a couple more times since 1893. Regardless, it's fairly rare, and that should tell us all a lot about the difficulty of getting to where we are now.

That's not even close to accurate. 1968 and 1977 in addition to 1963, 1969, and 1970 without even having to think about it. 

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Solid win in my opinion.  While it's fun to watch blowouts like last week, I never felt like the win was at serious risk and we played smart most of the game.  Very few moments where I felt we were giving Arky anything for free.  Blue has to be better protecting the ball and I question Bolden's decision making on punt returns at times (although it hasn't bit us yet), but it was mostly a well executed game other than that.  A few throws missed and a few balls dropped, that's football.  Minimal penalties or serious breakdowns.  I think Sark's comments post game help tell the story - when your defense is playing that well, playing conservative/safe football makes a lot of sense.  No reason to risk forcing a ball down field when up by 2 scores when Arky was doing nothing on offense.  The downside of a turnover in that situation is much greater than the benefit of another first down.  Once Arky got some momentum, I thought we responded well.  I really don't get the Quin hate, the guy made some outstanding throws when it mattered and managed the game well.  Lots of championships have been won using that formula.        

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1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

An interesting scenario is A&M losing to Auburn and then beating Texas. A two loss Texas goes over A&M, even though A&M beat Texas late in the season? Aggies would scream burnt orange media conspiracy. 

Yes. They would have 3 losses.  We’d go over them. Same as if Georgia loses to tech. 

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36 minutes ago, blutow said:

Solid win in my opinion.  While it's fun to watch blowouts like last week, I never felt like the win was at serious risk and we played smart most of the game.  Very few moments where I felt we were giving Arky anything for free.  Blue has to be better protecting the ball and I question Bolden's decision making on punt returns at times (although it hasn't bit us yet), but it was mostly a well executed game other than that.  A few throws missed and a few balls dropped, that's football.  Minimal penalties or serious breakdowns.  I think Sark's comments post game help tell the story - when your defense is playing that well, playing conservative/safe football makes a lot of sense.  No reason to risk forcing a ball down field when up by 2 scores when Arky was doing nothing on offense.  The downside of a turnover in that situation is much greater than the benefit of another first down.  Once Arky got some momentum, I thought we responded well.  I really don't get the Quin hate, the guy made some outstanding throws when it mattered and managed the game well.  Lots of championships have been won using that formula.        

Yep.  And it's one of the reasons Quinn is the guy.  Do I wish we were making some more explosive things happen and him in particular with intermediate and long routes and with his legs?  Absofuckinglutely.  That said despite all the gnashing of teeth about some tipped balls at Vandy etc in 20 starts over the last two seasons QE3 has thrown 12 interceptions against 43 TDs.  Now you can argue that he has gotten away with some things and yea he has, but every QB gets away with some things and what that shows is he doesn't put the ball at risk all that often. Coaches love that shit especially when they have an outstanding defense.  The game we lost is the game he decided to be a turnover machine.  

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14 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Closest game was on the road vs Ohio State and an 11 point Aggie game before USC.

We were down 12-28 to Oklahoma State before Vince went into super beast mode in the 2nd half and we scored 5 straight touchdowns to wind up blowing them out but by far and away that first half was the worst 2 quarters of football the 05 team played all season.

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List of seasons where Texas defeated all three of Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Texas A&M:

1903 (also tied Oklahoma in a game, played them twice)
1906
1907
1908 (4-0, beat A&M twice)
1916
1932
1934
1940
1941
1942
1943
1944
1945
1946
1947
1958
1959
1961
1962
1963
1968
1969
1970
1977
1983
1990
2008(! - can't believe I forgot about this one)

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