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28 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

At 9 or 10 we would ride our bikes on a busy highway a couple of miles to get to the fireworks stand.  Then  see who could light them and throw it in the air with just enough wick left so it would explode in the air and rain confetti.  Whenever one of our parents saw this they'd give us a stern lecture along the lines of "hey be careful”

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Authorities found him walking alone after a concerned resident called police. Police took Soren, who was unharmed, home, but a few hours later they returned and arrested Patterson in front of her children.

I'm wondering if little Soren was just walking home or fucking around and causing trouble on the way... I admit I don't understand people but there has to be more to the story. 

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5 minutes ago, Grande Mart said:

In 3rd grade, we'd ride our bikes about a mile to the convenience store to pick up smokes for my friend's mom. She had become acquainted enough with the people that worked there that they knew who we were and would sell them to us for her. 

We'd also spend a bunch of quarters playing Spy Hunter or 1942 or whatever Arcade game they had at the time

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My son, now 29, is a no nonsense person. While he did play some video games the bulk of his time was spent outdoors being the typical country boy. When he was about 9 years old he was left at home alone which was a common thing to do. However, this time when I came home he was in his room with his door closed playing a video game. I quietly knocked on his door. He asked who was there. My reply was another soft knock on his door. Again he asked who was there. Again, I simply knocked on the door again. All of a sudden the door flies open and he is standing in a crouched defensive position holding one of his skinning knives for field dressing a deer. I am so thankful that I had not jumped through the door to scare him otherwise he would have gutted me.

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7 minutes ago, mininghorn88 said:

My son, now 29, is a no nonsense person. While he did play some video games the bulk of his time was spent outdoors being the typical country boy. When he was about 9 years old he was left at home alone which was a common thing to do. However, this time when I came home he was in his room with his door closed playing a video game. I quietly knocked on his door. He asked who was there. My reply was another soft knock on his door. Again he asked who was there. Again, I simply knocked on the door again. All of a sudden the door flies open and he is standing in a crouched defensive position holding one of his skinning knives for field dressing a deer. I am so thankful that I had not jumped through the door to scare him otherwise he would have gutted me.

So who was he in there skinning?

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1 hour ago, mininghorn88 said:

My son, now 29, is a no nonsense person. While he did play some video games the bulk of his time was spent outdoors being the typical country boy. When he was about 9 years old he was left at home alone which was a common thing to do. However, this time when I came home he was in his room with his door closed playing a video game. I quietly knocked on his door. He asked who was there. My reply was another soft knock on his door. Again he asked who was there. Again, I simply knocked on the door again. All of a sudden the door flies open and he is standing in a crouched defensive position holding one of his skinning knives for field dressing a deer. I am so thankful that I had not jumped through the door to scare him otherwise he would have gutted me.

Does your son hang out on Rainey Street and despise "drunk" people while loving Chilean Sea Bass?

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8 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

I figured once my boy was strong enough to break the chain keeping him in the pit out back, then there weren't no harm in him wanderin because he was likely the meanest cuss in the neighborhood.

We all know that the “no harm” was your boy getting free food from places other than your pit….after he out-fought the hogs for it. 

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1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

We all know that the “no harm” was your boy getting free food from places other than your pit….after he out-fought the hogs for it. 

Hell him and the hogs banded together against the Pit People, why'd you think I had him out there in the first place?

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10 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

... for a kid to walk alone.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-moms-arrest-puts-free-range-parenting-back/story?id=116004039

 

In Texas there's no law stating how old a child has to be to be left alone at home.  We started leaving our kids alone around 5 to make quick trips to the library to return books (1/4 mile away) and around 7 to drop the other kids off at daycare etc.  We let our three oldest kids (13, 12, 10) walk to the library or bike around the 10 miles of trails in our neighborhood.  I've let them bike to soccer practice (1 mile on the trails)- their school's closer than that.  This is crazy to me.

Eh, 5 years old is pretty fucking young to leave alone. That's neglect. I say this as a traditional Gen-X latch key kid.

 

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13 hours ago, JMFP said:

 I admit I don't understand people but there has to be more to the story. 

there isnt more to it, the story is more than 3 weeks old and been covered in other parts of this site and ive seen a few youtube videos about it.  and to make matters worse, he turned 11 very shortly after this. so this story is even more ridiculous.

 

its a small mostly rural town in Georgia,  The kid walked to town on his own, in nice October weather. his mom thought he was in the backyard, and drove one of her other kids to an appointment. and a worried "Karen" calls the cops to say theres a kid walking along the county road by himself.  Thats it full stop. nothing nefarious.

The excuse used to arrest mom is best described as "worst-case wishing"   

The actual story originally told to the local paper, which asked the sheriffs dept why was mom arrested, was that the sheriff said that something "could' have happened to the kid.   That he could have been kidnapped, or hurt, or fill in the blank.

thats not a fucking crime, and all the "could have's" in the world dont matter if none of them didn't happen.  Thats mom's job to tell the kid that not the fucking sheriff's job to arrest the mom for that.

 

But that was literally the reason the sheriff went back and arrested Mom-  because some jackass in authority decided that because something could have happened, that the child was in endagered in his own fucking rural town walking in full daylight  to the local store which was a mile away.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

there isnt more to it, the story is more than 3 weeks old and been covered in other parts of this site and ive seen a few youtube videos about it.  and to make matters worse, he turned 11 very shortly after this. so this story is even more ridiculous.

 

its a small mostly rural town in Georgia,  The kid walked to town on his own, in nice October weather. his mom thought he was in the backyard, and drove one of her other kids to an appointment. and a worried "Karen" calls the cops to say theres a kid walking along the county road by himself.  Thats it full stop. nothing nefarious.

The excuse used to arrest mom is best described as "worst-case wishing"   

The actual story originally told to the local paper, which asked the sheriffs dept why was mom arrested, was that the sheriff said that something "could' have happened to the kid.   That he could have been kidnapped, or hurt, or fill in the blank.

thats not a fucking crime, and all the "could have's" in the world dont matter if none of them didn't happen.  Thats mom's job to tell the kid that not the fucking sheriff's job to arrest the mom for that.

 

But that was literally the reason the sheriff went back and arrested Mom-  because some jackass in authority decided that because something could have happened, that the child was in endagered in his own fucking rural town walking in full daylight  to the local store which was a mile away.

 

 

Arresting mom because *someone else* could have been a criminal is an excellent use of the law. 

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Story is ridiculous. He was at home with his grandfather and went to the store by himself without permission and they arrest his mother who was talking a brother to a doctors appt? Would have made more sense to arrest the grandfather... except that's just as ridiculous.

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I had multiple arguments with my wife about our son's behavior when he was in elementary school.  He was (and is) a very good kid, but he was a typical boy.  My wife freaked out when he climbed a tree.  A tree.  I had to explain that boys climb shit, they wander, they throw rocks at each other, sometimes they fight, but the odds are in the kids' favor.  

I don't know if parents are becoming overly protective or if kids just aren't pushing the envelope as much as we did, but it certainly seems like something has changed.

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20 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

 I don't know if parents are becoming overly protective or if kids just aren't pushing the envelope as much as we did, but it certainly seems like something has changed.

Tell me about it. Why, when I was a kid, we used to have to search construction sites at night when crews weren’t working to find long shards of broken glass.  We needed them because our parents would only pay for the new school year’s clothes If we showed them some item from a Hobo Camp down by the tracks - indicating we had won a battle with them.  Like an eye or a severed finger…

Kids today are weak. 

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26 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't know if parents are becoming overly protective or if kids just aren't pushing the envelope as much as we did, but it certainly seems like something has changed.

Yes

kids need to take minor risks to learn and become functional adults. Preventing them from climbing trees or walking to the store alone is how you create a generation of anxiety riddled basement dwelling neckbeards. 
 

 

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Depends on the maturity of the kid.

My kids all learned to safely cross the street at different ages. Doesn’t matter what I did or how I tried to teach them. It just didn’t sink in until they were each ready.

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8 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

useful as a shield from stray bullets.

It’s crazy how much that neighborhood has changed over a relatively short period of time. My school bus made a stop there to drop the magnet kids off on my way to mighty Johnston High, Pride of the East Side. Both of those neighborhoods have gentrified a ton.

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