Texas vs St.Joseph’s, UKG Legends Classic, 8pm on ESPNU

[troph 24916]

UKG legends CHAMPIONS!

[Horn80 6172]

Impressive how. Texas played well as team the last 5 minutes when it mattered.

[Hookem2147 21374]

It bodes well for us in close games that we have a good closer (Johnson) and are a pretty good free throw shooting team. 

[jimmyjazz 46351]

4 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

15 minutes after someone said we’d be lucky to finish top half of the league 

I'll stand by that assertion.

[Dbeasy 15160]

What a weird game. They got abused on the boards in the first half. Joe had tons of layups and dunks. I’m not sure Texas ever really looked good until the last few minutes. Weird. 

[bureaucrat 38]

5 minutes ago, troph said:

About to be champions …

hell yea UKG Legends Classic champs 

[txexlonghorn23 21]

Just now, Dbeasy said:

What a weird game. They got abused on the boards in the first half. Joe had tons of layups and dunks. I’m not sure Texas ever really looked good until the last few minutes. Weird. 

We played our best basketball with 5 minutes left. We need 40 minutes of that effort instead of 5...

[jimmyjazz 46351]

2 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Reggie freeman?

That was EXACTLY my thought.

[UTexasFight 9567]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

I'll stand by that assertion.

Oh, I’m not betting against you.

 

especially after an inevitable injury 

[ztejas 43605]

7 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m tired and can’t think … who was the last pure scoring guard with tre’s level of confidence and talent, that guard you give the ball to at the end of the game and know you’re gonna get a decent look. Kids got a lot to learn but damn he’s super talented.

"With Tre's level of talent" gives you a list of zero. 

Carr was a killer a couple of years ago but he was little and like 23 by that point. 

KD wasn't a guard. 

Hamilton was a really good scorer his last season but not sure he was a guard? 

pm Derka (unironically) 

I mean shit - Abmas was pretty fucking badass last season but he was even smaller than Carr. 

It's easier for Tre to get separation at 6'6"

Edited November 23 by ztejas

[ztejas 43605]

3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

What a weird game. They got abused on the boards in the first half. Joe had tons of layups and dunks. I’m not sure Texas ever really looked good until the last few minutes. Weird. 

It's a weird roster that is going to need time to figure things out. The coaching staff is also going to need time to figure things out. 

Terry pretty much nailed the lineups all 2nd half. Which is impressive for a guy that wouldn't be able to coach at the AAU level. /s

[Hookem2147 21374]

Move up to 25th in KenPom. AdjO at 48th. AdjD at 13th.

[UTexasFight 9567]

Tip of the cap to Weaver. Getting 2 fouls early was a blessing in disguise.

running circles (literally) around st Joe’s in the 2nd half who didn’t have the stamina to finish another 40 minutes for a 2nd night in a row 

Edited November 23 by UTexasFight

[Rickylovesweed 14554]

Just now, Hookem2147 said:

Move up to 25th in KenPom. AdjO at 48th. AdjD at 13th.

We guarded well tonight. 

Like 70% of St Joe's points came off 2nd chances. The way we guarded is really what won this game. 

[BigTEAMLittleme 223]

11 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

Impressive how. Texas played well as team the last 5 minutes when it mattered.

I just like to know where they were for the other 35

[MirrOlure 14909]

Tip of the cap to Weaver. Getting 2 fouls early was a blessing in disguise.
running circles (literally) around st Joe’s on the 2nd half who didn’t have the stamina to finish another 40 minutes for a 2nd night in a row 

Weaver’s efforts are well known and chronicled…..yet, he still exceeds all of that. Amazing.

[Hookem2147 21374]

They need to experiment with Pope coming off the bench the next few games and playing him off the ball with Larry.

[Rickylovesweed 14554]

I'm not sure where Pope fits in with this roster. 

Larry is a far better distributor and defender. Then I don't see how you give Pope minutes over Johnson, Mark, and Weaver at the other guard spots. Playing Larry and Pope together also makes us really small at the guard spot. 

 

[tx 3 putt 77650]

great idea going to NY for this mini tournament. that's how a team grows 

[UTexasFight 9567]

3 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

Weaver’s efforts are well known and chronicled…..yet, he still exceeds all of that. Amazing.

I wouldn’t mind a weaver cam. Just watch him for a half.

 Chances are there is very little of the action you’re going to miss 

[HookEm 2468]

I'm not sure where Pope fits in with this roster. 
Larry is a far better distributor and defender. Then I don't see how you give Pope minutes over Johnson, Mark, and Weaver at the other guard spots. Playing Larry and Pope together also makes us really small at the guard spot. 
 

Pope is 6’2 and Larry is 6’3. Playing them together at the guard spots doesn’t make us small at all. Last year we were playing two 5’11 dudes.

[Rickylovesweed 14554]

Just now, HookEm said:

Pope is 6’2 and Larry is 6’3. Playing them together at the guard spots doesn’t make us small at all. Last year we were playing two 5’11 dudes.

There is no shot they are that size. 

This is like them listing Abmas at 6'0 last year. 

[jimmyjazz 46351]

19 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

Weaver’s efforts are well known and chronicled…..yet, he still exceeds all of that. Amazing.

It's funny, during preseason a pretty common perspective was that Weaver's minutes needed to be cut to 8-10 minutes per game (or so).  Now, once people see him again, it's KEEP HIM ON THE FLOOR.

Some guys are hard to judge on statistics alone.  He is absolutely a caloric boost for this team.

[HookEm 2468]

There is no shot they are that size. 
This is like them listing Abmas at 6'0 last year. 

Fair but regardless both of these guys are 2-3 inches taller than our guys last year.

[Hermanator 7199]

Johnson and Larry might be clutch type dudes down the stretch. 

Shedrick is finesse, but teams can't exploit him on the PnR switch up top. His finesse nature gives him the advantage in that situation, and it was really helpful at the end of the game. 

[ztejas 43605]

22 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

There is no shot they are that size. 

This is like them listing Abmas at 6'0 last year. 

Height isn't everything. Abmas played small and Hunter plays a bit bigger than he is but he's 6'0".

The lineup he's describing is absolutely "bigger" than Abmas and Hunter - but I might not call it a "big" backcourt lol. 

[dcar00 14438]

the reality is Pope's minutes are probably going to be dependent on Mark.  This assumes Larry does start to get more minutes as the PG.

[perfectchaos007 6679]

Championship game highlights

 

 

 

[HtownHorn 14795]

11 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Johnson and Larry might be clutch type dudes down the stretch. 

Shedrick is finesse, but teams can't exploit him on the PnR switch up top. His finesse nature gives him the advantage in that situation, and it was really helpful at the end of the game. 

He just needs to get better at reading when to go for a block, twice in today's game he was the 2nd defender on a block attempt and left a wide open rim for an easy rebound and score.

[ztejas 43605]

Just now, HtownHorn said:

He just needs to get better at reading when to go for a block, twice in today's game he was the 2nd defender on a block attempt and left a wide open rim for an easy rebound and score.

I think he needs to fucking apply himself and bring energy and focus throughout the game. I didn't see that until the last 10 minutes. I saw him floating around indecisively and getting punked on both ends of the floor. 

He isn't a mechanically flawed basketball player on either end. He isn't a good rebounder for his size but his defensive skill-set is very much big-time D1 level.

He needs to look up and realize that he's the starting center on what could be a very good basketball team representing the top collegiate brand in the country. 

Fuckin lock-in and play with some confidence and go get paid, bro. 

 

[Hermanator 7199]

7 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

He just needs to get better at reading when to go for a block, twice in today's game he was the 2nd defender on a block attempt and left a wide open rim for an easy rebound and score.

Depending on how they're playing defense that could be a weak side rotation issue and not on him. Can't know without knowing what defense they were in and what their help rotations are supposed to be. 

[NBHorn7 90]

A tale of two teams is this bunch, it can be the best of times or the worst of times. Kaluma traveling, missing everything on three balls, forcing strange shots, then making strange shots, burying a clutch three and making clutch free throws at the finish. Johnson forcing tough shots, turning the ball over, but in the clutch making tough shots, making smart plays and just money from the line in winning time. Shedrick making silly fouls, getting lost on defense, missing easy shots, clanking three's that shouldn't be shot. Then he makes good moves down low and finishes, big put backs on missed shots, and playing good defense and erasing shots that could have changed the game. Weaver just please stop with the dumb fouls so you can play when needed. You keep the wheel going round and round for this team when other things break down.

Larry taking over the game for the comeback was a nice development as was some decent minutes from Onyema. Vinson is athletic but he just can't match up with physical teams inside. Need Kent back for his size and help out on the boards and his defense for segments of the game. I don't know if Mark is just not in playing shape yet, but it looks that way. Need his overall game to give this team a lift. Lots of moving parts to try and piece together, to see what this team is capable of.  Hope it comes together by the start of conference play. This is the mission charged to Terry and only time will tell the tale.

 

[HookEm 2468]

I still want to see a lineup of Weaver + Mark + Johnson + Kaluma + Kent

Just switch everything on defense. All those dudes can defend and all can rebound. And all have to be guarded on the 3 point line.

[ztejas 43605]

2 minutes ago, HookEm said:

I still want to see a lineup of Weaver + Mark + Johnson + Kaluma + Kent

Just switch everything on defense. All those dudes can defend and all can rebound. And all have to be guarded on the 3 point line.

Nah just throw the towel in. We're finishing 13th in the SEC,

[Rickylovesweed 14554]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Nah just throw the towel in. We're finishing 13th in the SEC,

I think Kent's wrist has been bothering him since the start of the season. 

I know scrimmages aren't everything but I find it wild that we destroyed a team like TCU to then struggle in the opener against Ohio State. In the context of Mark and Kent being injured since that scrimmage, it actually makes a lot of sense. Those 2 were arguably two of our top players in the preseason (based on reports).

We just need to get healthy. 

[Derka 6374]

7 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

I played with Mihm and Axtell

omg, what a coincidence, so did dr.beeper! you must have been teammates with him too! 

 

 

 

LOL

also, file rex/beeper posting about how he played with mihm and axtell in the same file that contains “tim and omar are roommates” and “colt and shipley grew up together.” we heard you the first 100 times, nobody cares.

 

Edited November 23 by Derka

[Hookem2147 21374]

7 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I think Kent's wrist has been bothering him since the start of the season. 

 

I thought it was the wrist too but when they showed him on the bench last night he was in a boot.

[Js1 85651]

7 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

I thought it was the wrist too but when they showed him on the bench last night he was in a boot.

Maybe they meant his foot wrist 

Edited November 23 by Js1

[Blotto 23600]

9 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's funny, during preseason a pretty common perspective was that Weaver's minutes needed to be cut to 8-10 minutes per game (or so).  Now, once people see him again, it's KEEP HIM ON THE FLOOR.

Common? I don't recall that sentiment, but out those fools so we can have them banned from posting in Texas threads. Id play weaver 40 mins a game if possible.

[VinyVango 694]

Shed was horrible on his pick and roll defense… he’d flash out and not cover either guy… he needs to run until he pukes for leaving his feet so much at times and being soft on the defensive glass. He flashes some ability but his consistency needs to be a helluva lot better. At this point he basically is only good for about 8-15 mins a game, which won’t cut it versus the non directional Mississippi schools.

Larry is our best point. Weaver’s hustle saved us several points. Johnson is good but needs to calm down with the shot selection.

Kaluma is solid.

We need Mark, pope and Kent to get into their grooves and find a way to contribute more to be a good team.

Somebody needs to coach up Shedrick and onyema about defensive and rebounding fundamentals to clean up the gaping liability we have under the bucket on that end of the court

[dcar00 14438]

9 hours ago, HookEm said:

I still want to see a lineup of Weaver + Mark + Johnson + Kaluma + Kent

Just switch everything on defense. All those dudes can defend and all can rebound. And all have to be guarded on the 3 point line.

Love Weaver but I'm not sure he has to be guarded at the 3 point line.  he doesn't need to be at the 3 point line anyway.  

[Pato del Muerto 52664]

Shedrick’s and 1 foul when Texas had finally gotten a margin (7 I believe) was brain-dead. Don’t leave your feet, and if you do then make sure the guy doesn’t make the shot.  And no, putting your head in your hands right afterwards does not help. 
 

eta: don’t remember the time, but Texas seemed to get that margin and keep the lead for good after joes missed a wide open corner 3 when we didn’t rotate.  Felt like it killed the offensive momentum they had been building. 

Edited November 23 by Pato del Muerto

[Rickylovesweed 14554]

9 hours ago, VinyVango said:

Shed was horrible on his pick and roll defense… he’d flash out and not cover either guy… he needs to run until he pukes for leaving his feet so much at times and being soft on the defensive glass. He flashes some ability but his consistency needs to be a helluva lot better. At this point he basically is only good for about 8-15 mins a game, which won’t cut it versus the non directional Mississippi schools.

 

Yeah, Shedrick is horrible on the perimeter defensively. 

Crazy to say but think Onyema needs to steal some of his minutes. Onyema isn't good but he can at least move on the perimeter. 

[HookEm 2468]

Love Weaver but I'm not sure he has to be guarded at the 3 point line.  he doesn't need to be at the 3 point line anyway.  

He shot 40% from 3 as a FR at UTA. This year so far he is shooting 50% from 3 (admittedly on low volume). If he is open out there he can drain it.

[Derka 6374]

he has good shooting form and he doesn’t take stupid shots. you can’t just leave him along out there in space to either shoot or drive, so he’s got to be accounted for.