Moana II

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2,153]

First one had a lot of magic for the kids.  This one is a lot closer to Frozen 2 than Toy Story 2.

 

Evidently it was supposed to be TV series that they re-rigged into a movie because Disney needed something in the box office given the losing streak they were on.  You could tell.  There are some giant electric eels that just appear, are there for a scene, are fought with, then are gone.  What the hell was that all about? Then you understand it was probably some bad guy in one episode of a series.

 

Kids left the first one singing all the songs.  This one felt like  level of quality of songs.

[Drew 2,833]

3 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

First one had a lot of magic for the kids.  This one is a lot closer to Frozen 2 than Toy Story 2.

 

Evidently it was supposed to be TV series that they re-rigged into a movie because Disney needed something in the box office given the losing streak they were on.  You could tell.  There are some giant electric eels that just appear, are there for a scene, are fought with, then are gone.  What the hell was that all about? Then you understand it was probably some bad guy in one episode of a series.

 

Kids left the first one singing all the songs.  This one felt like  level of quality of songs.

I've heard a lot of similar takes about this one, which sucks cause the first one was a bright spot for recent Disney movies.

The Bolded, however is baffling a bit. They literally have had the biggest Box office of the year with Inside Out 2 and Deadpool/Wolverine being the top 2 grossing movies this year. Like by a LOT(the only movies this year to crack 1 billion)

[immamac 44,199]

Man idk this movie went hard IMO. 

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2,153]

Re:Disney’s tough time.  Who knows if that motivation is real or not but I think they were referring to 2023 Disney bombs.
 

They (publicly) said Moana 2 would be big screen Feb 2024.  So the guess was it was a reaction to earlier bombs and 2023 was a rough year for Disney.
 

https://m.imdb.com/news/ni64568982/

 

 

  

[mdmost 43,850]

This was supposed to be a Disney+ show and was reworked so Disney could have a Thanksgiving release like they do every year. It will still do good numbers. It already did 11M in previews.

[Pato del Muerto 53,331]

Moana2:  Of Age Now Boogaloo?

[UpperWestside 6,263]

Going tomorrow morning. Seems pretty cool and I enjoyed the first one.

[billfromlaketravis 11,784]

9 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

First one had a lot of magic for the kids.  This one is a lot closer to Frozen 2 than Toy Story 2.

 

Evidently it was supposed to be TV series that they re-rigged into a movie because Disney needed something in the box office given the losing streak they were on.  You could tell.  There are some giant electric eels that just appear, are there for a scene, are fought with, then are gone.  What the hell was that all about? Then you understand it was probably some bad guy in one episode of a series.

 

Kids left the first one singing all the songs.  This one felt like  level of quality of songs.

Lin-Manuel Miranda composed the songs for the first film. Didn’t work on Moana II. I think we discovered the problem. 

[Dutchrudder 11,228]

Just saw it, was kind of surprised how ADHD it was. It felt like a Frankenstein script with a bunch of different scripts cut up and slapped together without any thoughts of how it flows as a story. There were a lot of quick cuts to completely different locations without any transition. They would switch locations and conversation topic without any transition or establishing shots, felt really weird and disjointed.

There were a lot of songs, and I honestly can't remember any of them. I will check YouTube later to figure out which one has our kids excited and dancing and report back. There was 1 they really really liked when the other lady that lives in the big clam was singing. 

[Pato del Muerto 53,331]

Meet you all the way

moana yeah

 

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2,153]

 

 

[billfromlaketravis 11,784]

1 hour ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

 

 

What’s the backstory here? I believe he hasn’t worked with Disney since Encanto in 2021. Brilliant movie.

Does he have an overall deal at another studio? 

[NWBuck 8,619]

Should be "More-ana", amIrite? 

[mdmost 43,850]

Lin Manuel also wrote a horrible rap for the Little Mermaid live action so maybe let's not kiss his ass too much. He like many a prolific artist needs someone to tell him "no" every once in a while. 

[Pig Bellmont 8,867]

40 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

What’s the backstory here? I believe he hasn’t worked with Disney since Encanto in 2021. Brilliant movie.

Does he have an overall deal at another studio? 

I think he’s spending all his time writing another musical for Broadway

[52-80 19,379]

18 hours ago, Drew said:

I've heard a lot of similar takes about this one, which sucks cause the first one was a bright spot for recent Disney movies.

The Bolded, however is baffling a bit. They literally have had the biggest Box office of the year with Inside Out 2 and Deadpool/Wolverine being the top 2 grossing movies this year. Like by a LOT(the only movies this year to crack 1 billion)

The business group under which movies sit have been losing money for the last 3 years. This year that group is taking in less overall money, but are profit positive.

[LCHorn 2,749]

I took the kids yesterday-it’s not terrible but isn’t going to be a classic like its predecessor.  

[immamac 44,199]

14 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Just saw it, was kind of surprised how ADHD it was. It felt like a Frankenstein script with a bunch of different scripts cut up and slapped together without any thoughts of how it flows as a story. There were a lot of quick cuts to completely different locations without any transition. They would switch locations and conversation topic without any transition or establishing shots, felt really weird and disjointed.

There were a lot of songs, and I honestly can't remember any of them. I will check YouTube later to figure out which one has our kids excited and dancing and report back. There was 1 they really really liked when the other lady that lives in the big clam was singing. 

I don't really understand why people do this with sequels. The main characters were already deeply developed in the first one, this one is just about action and progressing the story. I do think there was a missed opportunity to go into a bit more depth on the god who sunk the island and why he trapped the other demigod there in the clam, but that wasn't really the point of what was going on like the first movie where the god was a main part of the story restoring the world as it was etc. Tafiti was only in the movie for like 1m45s but the lore was the entire movie. 

The other boat characters were just extras, they aren't main characters that contributed much except for the plot that moana has become a leader of people and they are willing to follow her to the end and that she was willing to sacrifice everything in order to fulfill her role as THE wayfinder. 

My 5 year old just told me his favorite part of the movie was "The songs and Maui was his favorite" 

Also if you don't think this is a banger idk what to tell you. 

Absolute banger. 

The point of this movie isn't to be a standalone classic. What standalone sequel is there that's better than the original story? 

[Frank The Tank 1,503]

[Drew 2,833]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

I don't really understand why people do this with sequels. The main characters were already deeply developed in the first one, this one is just about action and progressing the story. I do think there was a missed opportunity to go into a bit more depth on the god who sunk the island and why he trapped the other demigod there in the clam, but that wasn't really the point of what was going on like the first movie where the god was a main part of the story restoring the world as it was etc. Tafiti was only in the movie for like 1m45s but the lore was the entire movie. 

The other boat characters were just extras, they aren't main characters that contributed much except for the plot that moana has become a leader of people and they are willing to follow her to the end and that she was willing to sacrifice everything in order to fulfill her role as THE wayfinder. 

My 5 year old just told me his favorite part of the movie was "The songs and Maui was his favorite" 

Also if you don't think this is a banger idk what to tell you. 

Absolute banger. 

The point of this movie isn't to be a standalone classic. What standalone sequel is there that's better than the original story? 

That’s a good song. The songs in the first were great. And she has a great voice. 

[immamac 44,199]

Banger. 

[Michael Knight 13,187]

Well it made a fuck ton of money so smart move by Disney

Spoiler

Big step down from the 1st in quality, there was no "You're Welcome" , "Shiny" or "How Far I'll Go" this time around as most of the songs were meh. The side characters weren't any good and there was no conflict. Also nothing at all seems to happen in this movie, they fight a cloud and then it ends in a cliffhanger for season 2.

 

Edited November 30 by Michael Knight

[mdmost 43,850]

We liked it. It's a Disney sequel so it's not exactly treading new ground. Toy Story 2 and 3 are the only ones that really did that and those were Pixar. A couple of the songs were good and I didn't mind the main characters. It's definitely setting up Moana 3. I believe the genesis of this was the Disney+ were showing Bob Iger what they had for 2024 and beyond when he watched this and asked them why it wasn't a movie versus a Disney+ series. 

It didn't have any absolute bangers like this one that might be one of the best sequences Disney has come up with in a long while. It was very Frozen 2 in that regard. Decent but not something we'll rewatch like the first one. But that's true for most Disney sequels. 

 

Edited December 2 by mdmost

[hookem2010 2,700]

Best song from original Moana for sure. All those YouTube views of that video on my phone are definitely because my 2 year-old wanted to hear it all the time, and not because I want to imagine I'm exploring the remote Pacific hundreds of years ago for 2 minutes instead of being trapped in a concrete hellscape.

[mdmost 43,850]

2 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Best song from original Moana for sure. All those YouTube views of that video on my phone are definitely because my 2 year-old wanted to hear it all the time, and not because I want to imagine I'm exploring the remote Pacific hundreds of years ago for 2 minutes instead of being trapped in a concrete hellscape.

Sidebar to the thread, pick up the book about Captain Cook's final voyage, A Wide Wide Sea. It's great and will scratch that itch. 

Edited December 4 by mdmost

[hookem2010 2,700]

I've read Blood & Thunder and On Frozen Ground, so I definitely like the author. Newborn and toddler have my brain feeling like mush at the moment, but one day soon I'll be ready to put down my phone and read a real book again. Back to Moana II discussion...

[lateshow 1,319]

On 11/27/2024 at 11:32 PM, Pig Bellmont said:

I think he’s spending all his time writing another musical for Broadway

He's been pretty tied up with Fatwa! The musical.

[lateshow 1,319]

On 12/4/2024 at 2:50 PM, mdmost said:

Sidebar to the thread, pick up the book about Captain Cook's final voyage, A Wide Wide Sea. It's great and will scratch that itch. 

Great book. Then again, anything by Hampton Sides is a great book. 

[HornOnTheBayou 9,056]

23 minutes ago, lateshow said:

He's been pretty tied up with Fatwa! The musical.

Tarnishing the scripture,

how he mocks me

All this blasphemy and vanity,

carnality exhausts me

It’ll cost me my respect in Iran

And so it’s time for him to

die, I do not like this man 

[Rimbo 26,853]

On 11/28/2024 at 6:11 AM, immamac said:

The point of this movie isn't to be a standalone classic. What standalone sequel is there that's better than the original story? 

1. Empire Strikes Back

2. Goldfinger

3. Toy Story 2

just off the top o my head and without looking things up

[Trey3216 15,450]

On 12/4/2024 at 2:48 PM, hookem2010 said:

Best song from original Moana for sure. All those YouTube views of that video on my phone are definitely because my 2 year-old wanted to hear it all the time, and not because I want to imagine I'm exploring the remote Pacific hundreds of years ago for 2 minutes instead of being trapped in a concrete hellscape.

My 4 and 3 year old watch Moana at least 3x/week.  They laugh like hell when I sing the song and do my best impression of the dances.   lol  

[Incredulity 11,861]

12 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

My 4 and 3 year old

 

12 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

my best impression of the dances

You're hallucinating from lack of sleep.

[Trey3216 15,450]

Just now, Incredulity said:

 

You're hallucinating from lack of sleep.

Anyone can fake surf/wayfind on the living room floor....so long as I haven't had too many beers or 8th Wonder cocktails.  

[irishtexan 11,692]

Finally went to see this yesterday with the kids. This movie was terrible. It lacked everything that made the first movie so great. The songs were written like a bad LMM tribute band. The plot had zero cohesion. The bad guy was.... a storm? What was the conflict? Why did they need to find the island or connect with other people when things seemed to be going great for their people on their island? What was the existential threat? This film was a total mess. 

[mdmost 43,850]

3/4ths of the way to a billion dollars worldwide.