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7 hours ago, statsman said:

When you explain the idea- “the dead dogs are buried, and they have the mini scoreboard so the dead dogs’ lifeless eyes (rotted away) can see through six feet of dirt and look at the score, and u sweat and the numeracy, despite dogs being incapable of doing math when alive”- it sounds like the dumbest assed thing ever

If they have to do this charade, my suggestion would be to just put up a fake score showing aggy winning every game, some in thrilling and some in very convincing fashion. Let the dogs be happy and not be miserable. It is not as if they get espn.com in their graves. 

Unless Lassie dies and reveals the bad news to the other dead dogs that, no, the aggies haven’t won the last 10 national championships. Does the aggy lore include dead dogs talking to each other?

 

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7 hours ago, AeroHorn said:

If they have to do this charade, my suggestion would be to just put up a fake score showing aggy winning every game, some in thrilling and some in very convincing fashion. Let the dogs be happy and not be miserable. It is not as if they get espn.com in their graves. 

Unless Lassie dies and reveals the bad news to the other dead dogs that, no, the aggies haven’t won the last 10 national championships. Does the aggy lore include dead dogs talking to each other?

 

I’m sure Those dogs welcomed the sweet embrace of death after living their lives tethered to spittlelipped trash goblins that seem to make weird fucking whoop noises and do herky jerky “yells” all the time. 

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7 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Yep. I spent an inordinate amount of time this weekend trying to figure this rule out and this seems to be correct. It’s fucking madness, but it’s correct. 

I actually thought this was common knowledge.  John Madden used to talk about the goal line extending around the world and it was ingrained in my 8 year old brain you could score even when diving out of bounds.  And then the NFL changed it. But NCAA hasn't.

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21 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

I actually thought this was common knowledge.  John Madden used to talk about the goal line extending around the world and it was ingrained in my 8 year old brain you could score even when diving out of bounds.  And then the NFL changed it. But NCAA hasn't.

Ha. I remember the Madden "around the world" goal line comment as well.  I did not know the NFL had changed the rule though.  Interesting.

Here is my question, if Arch puts his right hand out and the hand goes on the inside of(field of play side) the  pylon, but he does not contact the pylon is it still a TD?  The pylon is only there to determine the goal line in the air.  If the answer is yes no issue.  If the answer is no then why if the goal line extends out, why doesn't the Pylon extend up?

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On 12/2/2024 at 8:59 PM, speed817 said:

You'll have a LONG ASS DAY after you see it.  Not much there.

I really don't mean to be a jackass but posting an employees name and talking about her ass on this site while apparently being some type of supervisor is not a recipe for your personal or professional success.

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24 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Ha. I remember the Madden "around the world" goal line comment as well.  I did not know the NFL had changed the rule though.  Interesting.

Here is my question, if Arch puts his right hand out and the hand goes on the inside of(field of play side) the  pylon, but he does not contact the pylon is it still a TD?  The pylon is only there to determine the goal line in the air.  If the answer is yes no issue.  If the answer is no then why if the goal line extends out, why doesn't the Pylon extend up?

Yes. If the ball crosses over or inside the pylon, it is a TD. I posted the Approved Rulings earlier. 

Your situation is V below. Arch's actual TD was VI below.  Basically, if no part of the player's body touches the endzone or the pylon, then the ball has to cross the endzone between the pylons (including over the pylons). If any part of the body touches the pylon or the endzone before the player is down, then the ball just has to cross the plane, but doesn't need to be between the pylons. Stretch Armstrong could have the ball in Africa and so long as his foot was in the endzone, he'd score a TD. 
 

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How Scored—ARTICLE 1
Approved Ruling 8-2-1
I.    Ball carrier A1, while attempting to score, strikes the pylon located on the right intersection of the goal line and sideline with his foot. He is carrying the ball in his right arm, which is extended over the sideline. RULING: Whether or not a touchdown is scored depends on the forward progress of the ball as related to the goal line when the ball becomes dead by rule (Rules 4-2-4-d and 5-1-3-a).


II.    Ball carrier A1, advancing in the field of play, becomes airborne at the two-yard line. His first contact with the ground is out of bounds three yards beyond the goal line. The ball, in possession of the ball carrier, passes over the pylon. RULING: Touchdown (Rule 4-2-4-d).


III.    The ball, in possession of airborne ball carrier A21, crosses the sideline above the one-yard line, continues beyond the pylon and is then declared dead out of bounds in possession of A21. RULING: Ball is declared out of bounds at the one-yard line (Rules 2-12-1 and 4-2-4-d).


IV.    Quarterback A12 completes a forward pass to a teammate who is standing in Team B’s end zone. (a) A12 is beyond the neutral zone when he releases the ball. (b) The receiver is wearing uniform number 73. RULING: In (a) and (b) the result of the play is a touchdown. The penalty is completed according to Team B’s options.


V.    Ball carrier A22 dives for the goal line at the B-1. The ball in his possession (a) touches the pylon; (b) goes over the top of the pylon; (c) crosses the goal line inside the pylon. A22 then first contacts the ground out of bounds three yards beyond the goal line. RULING: (a), (b) and (c) Touchdown in all three. The ball in A22’s possession has broken the plane of the goal line in all three scenarios.


VI. Ball carrier A22 heads for the right-hand pylon at the goal line. At the B-2 he dives or is blocked into the air by an opponent. The ball in A22’s right hand crosses the sideline at the B-1 and passes outside the pylon, and then A22 (a) touches the pylon with his foot or left hand; (b) first touches the ground out of bounds three yards beyond the goal line. RULING: (a) Touchdown. The goal-line plane is extended since A22 touches the pylon. (b) Not a touchdown. The goal-line plane is not extended because A22 did not touch either the pylon or the ground in the end zone. The ball is ruled out of bounds at the B-1.

VII.    Ball carrier A22 heads for the right-hand pylon at the goal line. The ball in his right hand crosses the extension of the goal line outside (i.e., to the right of) the pylon, and then A22 steps (a) on the goal line; (b) on the sideline inches short of the goal line. RULING: (a) Touchdown. The goalline plane is extended because A22 touches the ground in the end zone. (b) Not a touchdown. The goal-line plane is not extended. The ball is ruled out of bounds at the crossing point.


VIII.    Ball carrier A22 heads for the right-hand pylon at the goal line. The ball is in his right hand. His foot hits the pylon just before the ball crosses (a) the pylon or (b) the extension of the goal line just to the right (outside) of the pylon. RULING: (a) and (b) No touchdown in either case. Because the pylon is out of bounds the ball is dead when A22’s foot hits it. Thus in both cases the ball is dead before it crosses the goal line.


IX.    Ball carrier A1 is hit and his forward progress stopped inbounds near the goal line at the sideline to his right. When he is stopped he has the ball in his right hand extended beyond the goal line (a) inside the pylon; (b) outside the pylon. RULING: (a) Touchdown. The ball became dead when he extended it beyond the goal-line plane. (b) Not a touchdown, because no part of his body touches either the pylon or the end zone. In this case the goal-line plane is not extended.


X.    Ball carrier A33 is running toward the Team B goal line. A33 drops the ball at the one-yard line, circles through the end zone and runs to the team area, believing a touchdown has been scored. There is no touchdown signal by any official. The fumbled ball hits the ground just outside the goal line, rolls along the ground in the end zone, and is declared dead there when it comes to rest and no player attempts to recover it. RULING: When a fumble comes to rest inbounds and no player attempts to secure the ball in advance of the spot of the fumble, the ball belongs to the fumbling team at the spot of the fumble. Team A’s ball at the 1-yard line.

 

 

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1 hour ago, IBuryPaul said:

I really don't mean to be a jackass but posting an employees name and talking about her ass on this site while apparently being some type of supervisor is not a recipe for your personal or professional success.

You are 100% correct.  Didn't intend it to go this way.

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2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Yes. If the ball crosses over or inside the pylon, it is a TD. I posted the Approved Rulings earlier. 

Your situation is V below. Arch's actual TD was VI below.  Basically, if no part of the player's body touches the endzone or the pylon, then the ball has to cross the endzone between the pylons (including over the pylons). If any part of the body touches the pylon or the endzone before the player is down, then the ball just has to cross the plane, but doesn't need to be between the pylons. Stretch Armstrong could have the ball in Africa and so long as his foot was in the endzone, he'd score a TD. 
 

 

yeah, in item IX it basically answers my question.

"because no part of his body touches either the pylon or the end zone. In this case the goal-line plane is not extended."

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11 hours ago, AeroHorn said:

If they have to do this charade, my suggestion would be to just put up a fake score showing aggy winning every game, some in thrilling and some in very convincing fashion. Let the dogs be happy and not be miserable. It is not as if they get espn.com in their graves. 

Unless Lassie dies and reveals the bad news to the other dead dogs that, no, the aggies haven’t won the last 10 national championships. Does the aggy lore include dead dogs talking to each other?

 

Isn’t that what the stadium wall is for with all those fake national and conference championships?  It works on aggys so it should work on dead dogs too.

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Just look at the clarity of those figures. Even the real size Madame Tussaud’s meticulously made sculptures do not match. How can one think that they are the pictures of ornaments? I guess the Princes of Nigeria have got to eat. 

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1 hour ago, AeroHorn said:

Just look at the clarity of those figures. Even the real size Madame Tussaud’s meticulously made sculptures do not match. How can one think that they are the pictures of ornaments? I guess the Princes of Nigeria have got to eat. 

At best the actual product will look like the below if actually produced. 
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Didn't see this posted anywhere. NSIAP. Slow mo replay of Arch's TD with a little epic music to it. Really reminds me of one of the old NFL Films type of highlights. The way he stares down the aggy before he trucks him is ice cold.

 

 

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At best the actual product will look like the below if actually produced. 
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I would gladly purchase an ornament sized version of this from the co-op just so I could remember that glorious thread every year during the holidays. Don’t lie - all of you would too.
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12 hours ago, TheBryMan81 said:

Didn't see this posted anywhere. NSIAP. Slow mo replay of Arch's TD with a little epic music to it. Really reminds me of one of the old NFL Films type of highlights. The way he stares down the aggy before he trucks him is ice cold.

 

 

If only John Facenda were alive to add to this...  ( I know JF never did college stuff but still)

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