CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

[Da Fino 2820]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

When is that? Ever shot suppressed? Unless you’re shooting small-caliber subsonic round, it’s still a loud bang.

The sound is so much different with as little as a 9mm. It’s such a different feeling. That said, there are videos of other public shootings where the person is just as calm without a suppressor and without being a pro. 

Edited December 5 by Da Fino

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4998]

6 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You never see any lever action handguns.  Unmet market need there. 

Do you even volcanic repeating pistol?

[Jive Turkey 12930]

Anybody seen this dude since the Olympics?

[956 Worldwide 35516]

26 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Wow. Ex special forces...what an insult. Lulz. 

Very little special forces training involves prepping to gun people down on city streets and flee via bicycle. When Mossad whacks people in places where they really don’t want to get caught they use teams of a dozen people with fake passports, governments solve things with lots of people and lots of money.  There is not a stable of super badass former MI6 assassins out there waiting for clients to buzz their encrypted phones. Consulting pays so much more and you don’t go to jail.  Contract killers are just criminals who don’t have other options and usually get caught. 

Edited December 5 by 956 Worldwide

[TwiceHorn 31987]

6 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Agree that the video is not totally clear, but if you watching the racking motion in the video and compare it to the motion used in the youtube video on the B&T, it is virtually identical. He tilts it and racks it every time he shoots it. Could be failure to cycle an autoloader based on using subsonic rounds, but the racking motion would generally be different. I think that Brian got it right earlier. We'll find out eventually. 

Also, most SA pistols would have more effective extractors than what is apparently provided with the B&T.  No need to tilt.

[Herbie Hancock 7452]

Not a pro. Not a Joe. He was dead within 3 hours. Buried in the damn desert. Unmarked grave out past Terlingua

[Goredho 17627]

6 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

If all CEOs were under a constant threat of assassination, it could be really good for the consumer.

 

5 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

Agree. I don't wish anyone harm, but there is no economic argument for United Healthcare to exist and propagate their negative externalities on Americans.

Private health insurance serves no productive economic function, and merely acts as a rent-seeking middleman that reduces efficiency and raises costs in the healthcare system.

1. Cost containment: private insurance does not contain healthcare costs, but rather makes them worse due to the overhead and profit-taking by insurance companies, as well as their ability to negotiate higher prices from providers.

2. Coverage expansion: private insurance does not expand healthcare coverage, but may actually restrict it due to insurers' incentives to enroll lower-risk, more profitable customers while avoiding higher-risk, costlier ones.

3. Access to care: private insurance does not expedite care, but rather slows it down as a result of the administrative burden and approval processes required by insurers, as well as their ability to restrict access to certain providers or treatments.

From an economic perspective, private health insurance fails to provide the kind of market-based efficiencies and benefits that could justify its existence. Instead, it suggests the insurance industry acts as a parasitic rent-seeker, extracting profits without adding commersurate value. 

Probably not for this thread, but if you could graph “societal decay” and “sociopaths in leadership positions” over time, I am pretty sure you would have two mirrored parallel curves up and to the right.  C-suite execs, politicians, mega-church pastors.  In far-too-many orgs, the Patrick Bateman’s are celebrated and elevated.  They get shit done without concern for ethics or morality and rise to the top.

[Nonbryan 176]

Why was the shooter wearing a backpack and what was in it?  

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13619]

A beak dipper whose existence is to extract a fee between consumer and provider 

[Sawbonz 28081]

4 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

In very much related news, Anthem announced today that they will stop paying for anesthesia if a procedure goes over planned time.

Oh the 3 anesthesiologists in the country that were in network with BCBS just sent them term letters

[DigDug 1735]

14 minutes ago, Nonbryan said:

Why was the shooter wearing a backpack and what was in it?  

I would guess maybe a change of clothes and or a backup weapon.

I'll tell you what he should have had, a bottle of water or starbucks canned coffee so he didn't walk in there and put himself on camera.

[Aqua Buddha 14782]

21 minutes ago, Nonbryan said:

Why was the shooter wearing a backpack and what was in it?  

A change of clothes, in all likelihood.  

[Grande Mart 530]

32 minutes ago, Nonbryan said:

Why was the shooter wearing a backpack and what was in it?  

Jetpack boba fett style

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19279]

3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I was about 6 blocks down 6th ave when this happened, walking back to my hotel. Quite a morning in the city.

Also: Wyden-Bennett, you motherfuckers. 

 

1 hour ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Midtown completely normal this afternoon. Went to a happy hour 3 blocks away and wouldn’t have had a clue something went down earlier in the day.

I texted my buddy who lives on Central Park South, and he said there isn’t even a noticeable police presence around the park. I guess they just haven’t publicly disclosed the latest leads.

I didn't make it into my office at 6th and 46th until about 8:30, but my phone had already lit up with texts about it.  

Police presence was higher around Rockefeller Center today due to the tree lighting. 

[Da Fino 2820]

25 minutes ago, DigDug said:

I'll tell you what he should have had, a bottle of water or starbucks canned coffee so he didn't walk in there and put himself on camera.

That was the patsy. Poor guy was probably just mindlessly riding his citi bike to work until Jason Bourne gave him the classic explosive leash. 

[wild_turkey 3279]

If the CEO of a multibillion dollar company is gunned down and public sentiment is akin to the Jerry Seinfeld “that’s a shame” gif, maybe that multibillion dollar company should consider just how terrible they have been for society. They won’t, but they should.

[staboner 5067]

3 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:

If the CEO of a multibillion dollar company is gunned down and public sentiment is akin to the Jerry Seinfeld “that’s a shame” gif, maybe that multibillion dollar company should consider just how terrible they have been for society. They won’t, but they should.

its remarkable honestly. My FB feed, which I curated to be just meme pages, is all over this. And the sentiment in the comments is exactly this. I haven't seen one person offended by it. unreal

[Brisketexan 106619]

If the CEO of a multibillion dollar company is gunned down and public sentiment is akin to the Jerry Seinfeld “that’s a shame” gif, maybe that multibillion dollar company should consider just how terrible they have been for society. They won’t, but they should.

its remarkable honestly. My FB feed, which I curated to be just meme pages, is all over this. And the sentiment in the comments is exactly this. I haven't seen one person offended by it. unreal

It really is stunning. No matter the site/venue, there really aren’t “dissenting” opinions. All are variations of Seinfeld “that’s a shame” and such. You rarely see such unanimity about…anything. Especially a dude getting murdered. Chris Rock “I ain’t saying it’s right, but u understand” is about as strong a condemnation as you get.

[WithoutAClue 15992]

too early for gallows humor?

 

[elfenix 34658]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Yep, it was pretty normal where I was in Midtown.

Fewer

fucking prescriptivist

[Gatorubet 30631]

1 minute ago, WithoutAClue said:

too early for gallows humor?

 

Sir….this is Surly

[0xdeadbeef 1695]

5 minutes ago, WithoutAClue said:

too early for gallows humor?

 

 

 

 

Too early?  Shiiiiiiit, bro. First joke was on post #11.

 

[Gatorubet 30631]

10 hours ago, Incredulity said:

 

After looking at the parachute, I’m pretty sure that it was DB Cooper. 

[F250 29175]

12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

It really is stunning. No matter the site/venue, there really aren’t “dissenting” opinions. All are variations of Seinfeld “that’s a shame” and such. You rarely see such unanimity about…anything. Especially a dude getting murdered. Chris Rock “I ain’t saying it’s right, but u understand” is about as strong a condemnation as you get.

I briefly worked for Humana as a programmer a really long time ago and a guy I went to high school with was working there on the business side.

One day we were supposed to go to lunch together and I had to wait a little over an hour for him to get out of a meeting. As we were driving to lunch he explained he was sitting on a panel because some old man was challenging Humana's denial of his wife's heart surgery. This dude casually said "we denied her coverage" then explained the costs of covering her and the loopholes for denying the coverage.

The whole time this was me thinking I was sitting next to a sociopath at lunch.

[BearSchlong 8231]

2 things -

He and his wife were living in separate houses

How the hell did local Nederland crackpot Philip Klein get inserted into this WSJ story? His firm had previously provided private security services to Thompson.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/united-healthcare-ceo-killed-what-happened-33cf8452?st=9daJqv&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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[27-25 2082]

2 hours ago, Herbie Hancock said:

Not a pro. Not a Joe. He was dead within 3 hours. Buried in the damn desert. Unmarked grave out past Terlingua

Still got the shovel?

[Vegas64 706]

1 hour ago, wild_turkey said:

If the CEO of a multibillion dollar company is gunned down and public sentiment is akin to the Jerry Seinfeld “that’s a shame” gif, maybe that multibillion dollar company should consider just how terrible they have been for society. They won’t, but they should.

I think it's mostly just New Yorkers being New Yorkers. Life goes on.

[UpperWestside 6263]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

 

It really is stunning. No matter the site/venue, there really aren’t “dissenting” opinions. All are variations of Seinfeld “that’s a shame” and such. You rarely see such unanimity about…anything. Especially a dude getting murdered. Chris Rock “I ain’t saying it’s right, but u understand” is about as strong a condemnation as you get.

 

I’ll be honest. I do not wish violence or death upon people, but this man enriched himself at the expense of millions of Americans. Millions of people whose lives and those of their loved ones were forever altered by UHC and their ilk not stepping up to help those in their time of need because profit mattered more. 
 

I think the best way to treat this man’s death is to just ignore that he ever existed and if they ever find the culprit, well, fine. If not, well, that’s fine too. I’d have NYPD spend the same amount of time investigating this as they would a street mugging. 

[Ted Lange 16353]

 

[Da Fino 2820]

21 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I think it's mostly just New Yorkers being New Yorkers. Life goes on.

It’s not. I haven’t seen anyone really admonish this. Everyone is just interested in who did it. I haven’t seen anyone give a shit about this guy as a person. The overall response has been “that’s horrible, they should try to find that guy…but I get.”

[Texzilla58 4778]

3 hours ago, Nonbryan said:

Why was the shooter wearing a backpack and what was in it?  

An urban sombrero

[Texzilla58 4778]

So the brass was left behind. Deny, Depose, Defend written on them.

[ztejas 44114]

7 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Midtown completely normal this afternoon. Went to a happy hour 3 blocks away and wouldn’t have had a clue something went down earlier in the day.

I texted my buddy who lives on Central Park South, and he said there isn’t even a noticeable police presence around the park. I guess they just haven’t publicly disclosed the latest leads.

They didn't shut down a city of 20 million people because some asshole got shot?

[Evil Bill Obrien 3493]

Haven’t seen as many people online and on social media agree on a death since a bunch of rich people went down to the Titanic in a shoddily built submarine controlled by the worlds most arrogant man with a knockoff Xbox controller and got turned into the pink goo…

[Orale 1176]

These insurance companies effectively murder or make life a living hell for millions of people every year purely for profit. They are evil. I'm glad this asshole was killed. Perhaps more executives of shitty companies that hurt lots of people should be killed. It just might cause some companies to stop being so evil, if only for self preservation. Keyboard warrior rant over. 

[AbeFroman 3090]

 

[HOOKEM4 5151]

5 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

So the brass was left behind. Deny, Depose, Defend written on them.

Well, you have 32% of claims filed that were denied. Start going down the list! If only you denied 10%, it would be a much shorter list and maybe he would still be alive.

[Bevo 13825]

2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Well, you have 32% of claims filed that were denied. Start going down the list! If only you denied 10%, it would be a much shorter list and maybe he would still be alive.

 

[NoName 17107]

13 hours ago, Bullneck said:

His annual salary: $10.2 million

If they helicoptered him, it may have bankrupted them for real

[po elvis 2137]

I wonder if the part of the suspect's face that is visible is enough for facial recognition software. I also wonder if there is a database out there with all the state's driver's license photos that they have access to. Possibly gain access to Iphone/Samsung facial recognition database.

[DigDug 1735]

15 minutes ago, AbeFroman said:

 

PD is saying he was on an Ebike but not a CitiBike Ebike

[Nice Guy Eddie 13707]

If anyone is cheering this guys death, they should most likely also be happy if their bosses at work are murdered for the same reason. If you work at a large employer, your employer is the one indirectly turning down any claim. They assume the financial risk not the ins company. The ins company is only handling the admin work for a fee.

Ask your ceo about the percentage of employee claims that are denied? Zero chance that he will want to discuss that or get back to you. They hide behind the insurance companies.

[Hefeweizen 5416]

 

Just about summarizes the reaction to this.  

[locodos 5583]

11 hours ago, B00M said:

Are you arguing that suppressors should be … even more controlled? Or illegal? At the end of the day, they’re century-old dirt-simple devices, especially when they only need to work well for a few shots. Way too many red blooded American felons have gone to prison because they knew how to machine a tube with some threads and install washers/baffles. 

Good!

[SameSame 1745]

14 minutes ago, po elvis said:

I wonder if the part of the suspect's face that is visible is enough for facial recognition software. I also wonder if there is a database out there with all the state's driver's license photos that they have access to. Possibly gain access to Iphone/Samsung facial recognition database.

This is going to sound bad, because it probably is.  I watched a documentary recently on AI and facial recognition.  It showed China has the most advanced public facial recognition systems and they could pull up recognition at a very high rate within 1 second.

I'm guessing if the systems can differentiate the Chinese, they can figure out this slim shady.

[52-80 19379]

I think this guy would have received much more public sympathy if he was a convicted felon, pedophile, and in the midst of swinging a skateboard at someone during a riot.

[AnTiM 1684]

17 minutes ago, SameSame said:

This is going to sound bad, because it probably is.  I watched a documentary recently on AI and facial recognition.  It showed China has the most advanced public facial recognition systems and they could pull up recognition at a very high rate within 1 second.

I'm guessing if the systems can differentiate the Chinese, they can figure out this slim shady.

Remember if you are one in a million in China, there are a thousand others just like you.

[MotownHorn 1883]

10 hours ago, DigDug said:

I would guess maybe a change of clothes and or a backup weapon.

I'll tell you what he should have had, a bottle of water or starbucks canned coffee so he didn't walk in there and put himself on camera.

It's Midtown Manhattan. He's on about 10,000+ cameras

[Buzzrock 15115]

36 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If anyone is cheering this guys death, they should most likely also be happy if their bosses at work are murdered for the same reason. If you work at a large employer, your employer is the one indirectly turning down any claim. They assume the financial risk not the ins company. The ins company is only handling the admin work for a fee.

Ask your ceo about the percentage of employee claims that are denied? Zero chance that he will want to discuss that or get back to you. They hide behind the insurance companies.

Nailed it. It seems like a lot of people don’t understand this. 

[wong 26]

41 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If anyone is cheering this guys death, they should most likely also be happy if their bosses at work are murdered for the same reason. If you work at a large employer, your employer is the one indirectly turning down any claim. They assume the financial risk not the ins company. The ins company is only handling the admin work for a fee.

Ask your ceo about the percentage of employee claims that are denied? Zero chance that he will want to discuss that or get back to you. They hide behind the insurance companies.

I actually looked it up and I'm shocked to see how many large orgs are self-insured. Had no idea that was the case working in the small business realm for 15 years.