CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

[Orange&White 5,573]

1 minute ago, locodos said:

1. Bleak and stupid take
2. Well I think we know how cheaply you can be bought.  Damned son, $10m that's really all you're worth?

Excellent retort.

UHC will have someone in his position in the next month and they will sift through hundreds of candidates. And they also fill all of their available openings throughout the rest of their company. So explain to me how my "stupid take" is incorrect.

 

I never said I'd take the fucking job and I never said it was good thing. I was simply stating facts.

[Aqua Buddha 14,803]

 

[Blotto 24,011]

23 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Where do I get the shirt? 

[locodos 5,590]

1 minute ago, Orange&White said:

Excellent retort.

UHC will have someone in his position in the next month and they will sift through hundreds of candidates. And they also fill all of their available openings throughout the rest of their company. So explain to me how my "stupid take" is incorrect.

 

I never said I'd take the fucking job and I never said it was good thing. I was simply stating facts.

People without integrity can't comprehend that other people might conduct themselves in a manor other than the pursuit of naked self interest.  Start by thinking about that and you might figure out why I called your post bleak and stupid.

 

[LCHorn 2,750]

I, too, would like to conduct myself in a manor. 

[Bill Brasky 1,622]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

[locodos 5,590]

1 minute ago, LCHorn said:

I, too, would like to conduct myself in a manor. 

settle down Alfred

[po elvis 2,137]

arrest has been made

 

[po elvis 2,137]

https://x.com/PeterEnnisNBC/status/1865075971868545161

[NorthLoop 14,463]

Well that's deflating. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19,583]

Dude is never going to have to worry about money on his commissary 

[NorthLoop 14,463]

I haven't been following any media on this - only this thread. Has the whole different backpack and jacket thing been addressed publicly? 

[po elvis 2,137]

Just now, NorthLoop said:

I haven't been following any media on this - only this thread. Has the whole different backpack and jacket thing been addressed publicly? 

The pictures showing his face were him checking into the hostel days before. He just had multiple jackets and backpacks.

[po elvis 2,137]

6 minutes ago, po elvis said:

https://x.com/PeterEnnisNBC/status/1865075971868545161

ha this could be fake account.

[Incredulity 11,874]

6 minutes ago, po elvis said:

https://x.com/PeterEnnisNBC/status/1865075971868545161

Lazy simulation is lazy

Peter Ennis…..P.Ennis

parents had to know, right?

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[Deej 77,806]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

And it's not an unfair point.  NO system is perfect, delivering miracle top-end medical care to 100% of patients.

WHICH DEFINITELY INCLUDES OUR CURRENT SYSTEM IN THE US.  We don't even deliver good care for BASIC, COMMON serious illnesses - think of any number of cancers.  I can't tell you how many friends and acquaintances on my social media feed are now sharing their horror stories of their family cancer experience: shit like having a child with a deadly cancer, and on top of all of the stress and heartache for that, getting a $100k bill (on a teacher's salary) because the insurer is refusing to cover random shit irrationally.

Our system, confronted with the Trolley Problem, has opted to enthusiastically steer the trolley towards the large group of people instead of the small one, because DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH SHAREHOLDER VALUE IS CREATED BY CHOOSING THAT PATH??????

 

[Orange&White 5,573]

23 minutes ago, locodos said:

People without integrity can't comprehend that other people might conduct themselves in a manor other than the pursuit of naked self interest.  Start by thinking about that and you might figure out why I called your post bleak and stupid.

 

As I mentioned, I was simply stating facts and not in any way what I would choose to do or my opinion on the matter, but you can conduct yourself in whatever "manor" you believe.

[Newdoc 3,511]

22 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

but I'll jump in here.

From what you have typed, I’d recommend jumping out. 

[Hate 20,247]

I’m so glad the country is coming around on vigilante justice! 

[miguelito 11,499]

53 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Like OJ once told us: "People die every day"

Big if true.

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56 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

I hope the paint on that is really fresh, otherwise The Man will be dusting it for prints!

[RDCanecutter 26,871]

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

lets be real

If I wasn't already angry enough to murder someone a bus ride from ATL to NYC would probably do it.

Can confirm from college days of budget travel. Anyway, what's the statute of limitations on various crimes that theoretically could have been committed in NYC during the 90s?

[RDCanecutter 26,871]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Trolley problem.

Trolley problem.

It's like almost every other complex task that takes effort/money.  I can spend $100 billion to get you 95% of the way to your ideal goal.  We can then spend another $100 billion, which gets us up to....97% of our goal.  There is no amount of money that will get us to 100% of our goal.

So we'll oppose any reform or restructuring by using the criticism of "it doesn't get us to 100% perfection!".....which ignores the fact that our current system gets us to maybe the 70% mark.  Of course, the reason for that is because our system is NOT designed to deliver healthcare.  It is designed to deliver profits.  Healthcare is just the mechanism it uses to deliver those profits.

You solve trolley problems by deliberately slamming into the bigger crowd until word gets out and the waterheads blink their eyes and don't stand on the tracks.

[RDCanecutter 26,871]

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Two questions.

1- Did you all solve this yet?

2- Would you turn him in?

I just checked my bank account. No direct deposit cop salary visible.

[Vegas64 713]

1 hour ago, GenXer said:

America has a lot of meat on the bone to improve healthcare even for standard stuff.

One of the things that I think few people talk about with changing the game here too is the impact of becoming and being a doctor.

Correct me if I am wrong, but when you compress everything in a nationalized way, doctors in other countries are just run of the mill professionals. They aren't making the huge money that specialists over here are and they lack the prestige the "my son is a doctor" provides. When you go from making $1 million a year to $200k a year (especially considering the laborious and difficult route of becoming a doctor) you are going to get a lot less quality and cream of the crop is my estimation. We would need to really skinny down the whole process is my guess.

Doesn't matter when you are talking about things that affect 90% of gen pop, but when talking about bleeding edge disease management and treatment and hyperspecifity in very important (cardiology, neurology, etc.) adn less important (say, dermatology or cosmetic plastic surgery), you may have few great options and a lot of options that look like what people fly to Turkey and Mexico for.

Edited December 6 by Vegas64

[po elvis 2,137]

16 minutes ago, Hate said:

I’m so glad the country is coming around on vigilante justice! 

Are lawyers next?

[royiv 9,776]

3 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

One of the things that I think few people talk about with changing the game here too is the impact of becoming and being a doctor.

Correct me if I am wrong, but when you compress everything in a nationalized way, doctors in other countries are just run of the mill professionals. They aren't making the huge money that specialists over here are and they lack the prestige the "my son is a doctor" provides. When you go from making $1 million a year to $200k a year (especially considering the laborious and difficult route of becoming a doctor) you are going to get a lot less quality and cream of the crop is my estimation. We would need to really skinny down the whole process is my guess.

Doesn't matter when you are talking about things that affect 90% of gen pop, but when talking about bleeding edge disease management and treatment and hyperspecifity in very important (cardiology, neurology, etc.) adn less important (say, dermatology or cosmetic plastic surgery), you may have few great options and a lot of options that look like what people fly to Turkey and Mexico for.

Physician comp is a relative drop in the bucket when it comes to healthcare spending in this country.

[Helobious 9,817]

41 minutes ago, po elvis said:

arrest has been made

 

 

40 minutes ago, po elvis said:

https://x.com/PeterEnnisNBC/status/1865075971868545161

You should maybe take a media literacy course if you’re fooled that easily

[Vegas64 713]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

Quote

 

Executives are rethinking protection. Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, who runs Yale’s Chief Executive Leadership Institute, told The Times that he had received a flood of phone calls on Wednesday about planned protection for a C.E.O. conference that he is hosting later this month in Manhattan.

Matthew Dumpert, a managing director of Kroll’s Enterprise Security Risk Management, told CNBC that his company had received a bunch of calls from C.E.O.s looking to upgrade their protection.

 

I think they are starting to get the message. Feels like the beginning of a Batman movie.

[Orange&White 5,573]

Just now, Vegas64 said:

I think they are starting to get the message. Feels like the beginning of a Batman movie.

Oh good. Another cost that can simply be passed on to the consumers.

[po elvis 2,137]

16 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 

You should maybe take a media literacy course if you’re fooled that easily

I signed up for one but turns out it was a scam.

[Brian Fantana 6,862]

57 minutes ago, po elvis said:

https://x.com/PeterEnnisNBC/status/1865075971868545161

This should be exhibit #696969 that you fucking morons should stop getting your news from Twitter.

[Deej 77,806]

22 minutes ago, po elvis said:

Are lawyers next?

[crash_davis 23,468]

8 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Oh good. Another cost that can simply be passed on to the consumers.

You mean like when Aetna saw the light from the uproar support for this killing and about faced on their plan to fuck customers by not paying for the anesthesia for the duration of the surgery? 

Don't want to have to pay for protection? Don't be an assholes fucking over people so that you can enjoy your million dollar bonus. 

 

[crash_davis 23,468]

23 minutes ago, po elvis said:

Are lawyers next?

 

Just now, Deej said:

 

You wish that Surly lose half of its posters?

[RDCanecutter 26,871]

15 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I think they are starting to get the message. Feels like the beginning of a Batman movie.

Remember to invest in hair gel companies as lots more operators get security detail paychecks.

[crash_davis 23,468]

[Iceman 2,978]

37 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

, but when talking about bleeding edge disease management and treatment

a new malapropism?

[Aqua Buddha 14,803]

Will be ironic if the shooter himself has terminal cancer or something and himself was denied potentially life saving treatment from UH.

Jury decision will be interesting….

[Steel Shank 9,552]

This thread has me thinking about banging hot nurses.

[RDCanecutter 26,871]

I feel about this case the same if somebody killed a rapist, child molester, or some clown out to scam Grammaw. Maybe shouldn't have killed them. Definitely against the law. What's for lunch.

[Chad Fuck 18,134]

25 minutes ago, Deej said:

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1 hour ago, Bill Brasky said:

 

 

Wait. Are you saying Dale Earnhardt revealed himself back to world at Delay Plaza with JFK Jr. last Nov 22nd, because Trump won the election. So that he can kill healthcare CEOs. 

 

[Incredulity 11,874]

4 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

[Bevo 13,870]

Sounds like they are pretty close to catching the guy

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14 hours ago, VinceYoungScores said:

ARA has been out of network with UHC for years.

Indeed they have.  Glad they're back in the fold, I guess, as we've had to drive a kid across town for imaging more than once because of this drawn out "negotiation". 

Edited December 6 by Samson's Wig

[Brisketexan 106,874]

19 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

To be fair, no one gives a fuck if some stranger is murdered. Occasionally you get some outrage for a famous person or the manner, but most people don’t really care because it doesn’t affect them.

Yes and know.  We don't give a shit because we don't know.  I'm sure somebody was shot dead in Cincinnati this week, but I didn't hear about it, so by definition, have had no emotional reaction to it.  But if you showed me the story of a dude shot while walking out of a meeting, I'd probably think that it's a sad/tragic tale.

[Dbeasy 15,561]

One of the more interesting items from this whole thing is the implication from them knowing he boarded a bus in Atlanta. 

That means there is likely a video database capturing huge streams of video data from all over the country, holding it for weeks/months/years? and using facial recognition scanning to ID the person. I’m unclear how this is constitutionally legal. 

There could be other paths to this data, but seems low probability. 

[Parliament 14,593]

3 hours ago, B00M said:

Yeah I see CBS trying to claim it’s a $2000 B&T station six, which is a manually cycled pistol. With the station six, the operator has to pull back to eject a spent case and then push forward to feed a fresh round. There’s no spring. The video makes it obvious that the slide on the shooters gun is driven forward by a spring. He pulls it back and releases it repeatedly, which is how he ended up ejecting 3 unspent rounds. It’s clearly a common semi-auto, probably a Glock or very similar mechanically. It makes perfect sense that a Glock would exhibit the cycling issues visible in the video when you stick a can on it and use subsonic rounds.

I want one.