CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

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15 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Been getting post surgery denials on procedures that were pre-authorized (we have FTEs whose sole function is getting prior auths), Supposedly from “3rd party independent auditors” which are really subsidiaries of the payers. I’m sure they are using AI to scrub op notes looking for keywords and if they aren’t there they deny, no matter how accurately you describe the surgery. 
 

We then have to sift through the denial letter, dictate an addendum to the op note using their preferred verbiage, and resubmit the claim within a very short window. Then cross fingers and wait

Oh and this is often after submitting an appeal of an initial denial of the precert and having to speak to another surgeon, who 99% of the time approves the surgery and says wtf didn’t they auth this in the first place

😡😡😡😡😡

this sounds exactly like what i posted upthread

pre-authorized

45 days later denied for total left-field bullshit reason

TEN DAYS to appeal

called and asked how they thought it was legal to get away with claiming plate tectonics in the indian ocean was at all related to my pre-authorized ct

it's criminal fraud unpunished because too big to fail and donation-captured politicians

[chainsaw 10243]

2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

[boilerhorn 1602]

Still shaking my head about, "We Guard Against Unnecessary Care."  Totally tone deaf.

A person's doctor (or the associated PAs or RNs) are the most trusted people in medicine.  When one of the most loathed pieces of a system rejects a request from a trusted part of that system, it becomes more loathed.  This fool just doubled-down on that.

This is a T-shirt opportunity: 
UHC - We Guard Against Unnecessary Care

If UHC has a director of comms or a PR firm, they need to reel in the CEO - or push to have him replaced.

[Pato del Muerto 53331]

10 hours ago, DixonHur said:

This is the first time I can remember actively rooting for the murderer.

He's my Guy Fawkes 

Fawkes didn’t kill anyone, got caught, and was tortured and killed by the crown, iirc. I think his big thing was not rolling on his co-conspirators. 

Edited December 7 by Pato del Muerto

[Hate 20232]

41 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You’re not wrong. I’m among them (both the well off and the lawyer class). It’s why a shitload of us have consistently and loudly called for and supported reform and massive social shifts. As have quite a few members of the billionaire class.
We see that we have done well, and could continue to do well, in a society with a functioning social contract. AND, we see that we all do well when everyone does well, or at least well enough (nobody is naive enough to pretend that we can have a system where nobody is poor and nobody is rich).
Some of the people ringing the alarm bells the loudest are indeed the people who may well find themselves in the crosshairs if it all goes to shit. Our thoughts as we see this happening are “no shit, we told you this would happen, what did you expect?” That’s not a happy thought. We don’t want this outcome. We’d much prefer a society where people didn’t feel like murdering CEO’s is a good thing, and a world where a CEO doesn’t make $10 million for shit like that. Maybe have a conscience, and be happy with the fabulous compensation of $1 million, or even less.
Are we cheering the development of “society has reached this point?” Hell no. Are we nodding along as we watch, with a “no shit, we told you so?” 100%

There are posts in this very page “cheering” for the murderer. The “meh” reaction to this is beyond disgusting. Does it mean that there aren’t issues with our healthcare system? Of course not. 

[Brisketexan 106618]

There are posts in this very page “cheering” for the murderer. The “meh” reaction to this is beyond disgusting. Does it mean that there aren’t issues with our healthcare system? Of course not. 

I disagree. It is a system that gives a man a $10 million reward for denying people lifesaving medical care. As a UHC official just said, the model for their success is denying people care.
When you set up that system…you’re going to get meh and cheers when one of its generals gets killed.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11856]

10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I disagree. It is a system that gives a man a $10 million reward for denying people lifesaving medical care. As a UHC official just said, the model for their success is denying people care.
When you set up that system…you’re going to get meh and cheers when one of its generals gets killed.

Pretty much this. The common folk view the big shareholders and CEOs as corporate murderers, who get away with it legally.  Personally I feel insurance execs are committing more like negligent homicide but that’s quibbling.

[Goofyboy 3428]

Pretty much this. The common folk view the big shareholders and CEOs as corporate murderers, who get away with it legally.  Personally I feel insurance execs are committing more like negligent homicide but that’s quibbling.

People that commit negligent homicide still get jail time. These assholes get golden parachutes. Fuck them. I hope more are taken out. Let’s leave guillotines in front of their head quarters - French style.

[Blotto 23974]

13 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

There's a Peter in all of us 

[NowThis] if we're lucky, there's a couple...amirite guys??? [\Now This]

[VinceYoungScores 12]

There are posts in this very page “cheering” for the murderer. The “meh” reaction to this is beyond disgusting. Does it mean that there aren’t issues with our healthcare system? Of course not. 

Meh

[Gatorubet 30631]

14 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Understood, good idea. But we still need something to drop on the smoke break area.

As my resume offering, I suggest that we use college student interns with stopwatches to stand and stare at persons entering the smoking break area. We order the interns to demonstrably click the start button while making eye contact with the employees.  

It costs nothing (we don’t pay interns for the privilege of working for us), but it imparts the message to employees that they are always being watched - and they can’t cheat us by exceeding the company policy 4 minute 30 second smoke break rule. 

[Brian Fantana 6856]

57 minutes ago, Hate said:

There are posts in this very page “cheering” for the murderer. The “meh” reaction to this is beyond disgusting. Does it mean that there aren’t issues with our healthcare system? Of course not. 

Aww, are your feelings hurt? The dude was effectively a mass murderer. If I ever come across his grave, I'll take a runny shit on it. I hope the killer gets away.

Meh.

[Gatorubet 30631]

1 hour ago, Hate said:

There are posts in this very page “cheering” for the murderer. The “meh” reaction to this is beyond disgusting. Does it mean that there aren’t issues with our healthcare system? Of course not. 

[Sawbonz 28081]

1 hour ago, Hate said:

There are posts in this very page “cheering” for the murderer. The “meh” reaction to this is beyond disgusting. Does it mean that there aren’t issues with our healthcare system? Of course not. 

Username doesn’t check out 

 

Also I’m all out of outrage at this point. This is the world these fucks want. I’m done fighting it

[Pato del Muerto 53331]

9 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

As my resume offering, I suggest that we use college student interns with stopwatches to stand and stare at persons entering the smoking break area. We order the interns to demonstrably click the start button while making eye contact with the employees.  

It costs nothing (we don’t pay interns for the privilege of working for us), but it imparts the message to employees that they are always being watched - and they can’t cheat us by exceeding the company policy 4 minute 30 second smoke break rule. 

Can station some at the bathroom stalls as well. 

[InkaUtexas 26800]

12 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

As my resume offering, I suggest that we use college student interns with stopwatches to stand and stare at persons entering the smoking break area. We order the interns to demonstrably click the start button while making eye contact with the employees.  

It costs nothing (we don’t pay interns for the privilege of working for us), but it imparts the message to employees that they are always being watched - and they can’t cheat us by exceeding the company policy 4 minute 30 second smoke break rule. 

Plus the interns can vape their day away. @RDCanecutter, this one might be a good Board Member. Again, an ideas person.

[MissingInAction 25478]

1 hour ago, Hate said:

There are posts in this very page “cheering” for the murderer. The “meh” reaction to this is beyond disgusting. Does it mean that there aren’t issues with our healthcare system? Of course not. 

How do you deal with parasites you find in your body, your dog, your home?

You fucking eradicate them.

[InkaUtexas 26800]

3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Can station some at the bathroom stalls as well. 

Just make everyone take an immodium before they start work. And get rid of all water and coffee. Problem solved.

[Brisketexan 106618]

Username doesn’t check out 
 
Also I’m all out of outrage at this point. This is the world these fucks want. I’m done fighting it

This. It’s exhausting. They’ve created a world where human life has minimal value…just the few bucks that can be saved, a fraction of which goes into his pocket as a financial reward for denying that person the care they need.
When you make life so cheap…don’t be surprised if there’s a run on that cheap commodity.
Again…this is our point/concern, dude. It’s really stupid and shortsighted to create that system, but here we are.

[Pato del Muerto 53331]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

Just make everyone take an immodium before they start work. And get rid of all water and coffee. Problem solved.

Lacks the human touch that good employers look to foster for good mental health.  
 

but then again, their business model is denying health so you’re probably right. 

[MissingInAction 25478]

10 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Perfection.

I also laughed when those dipshits were killed by a billionaires hubris at the bottom of the ocean. 

Edited December 7 by MissingInAction

[InkaUtexas 26800]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This. It’s exhausting. They’ve created a world where human life has minimal value…just the few bucks that can be saved, a fraction of which goes into his pocket as a financial reward for denying that person the care they need.
When you make life so cheap…don’t be surprised if there’s a run on that cheap commodity.
Again…this is our point/concern, dude. It’s really stupid and shortsighted to create that system, but here we are.

And this case sets up copy cats. It will continue. And it won't be just insurance companies. Remember that train derailment that killed people in Ohio (yeah, I know there is more than 1). Well the people got paid little yet they will be living with the damage caused for their lives. Maybe longer for their kids and grandkids.

BP paid bonuses AFTER they spilled and their oil well went kaput and made the Gulf black.

Edited December 7 by InkaUtexas

[Gatorubet 30631]

5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Plus the interns can vape their day away. @RDCanecutter, this one might be a good Board Member. Again, an ideas person.

Look, money saved over a large number of claims over a large number of days increases the chance of us getting fair corporate compensation.

To that end, it disturbs me the way we handle prenatal care.    Can we really be sure it is their baby?   Unless the request for services is accompanied by a birth certificate - we should deny.  We could implement this in our AI almost immediately.

[totallynotabuttpirate 5477]

5 hours ago, wong said:

Gotta laugh at a bunch of upper class internet posters giving this post rep.

If the hordes of broke 23 year olds on reddit decide to revolt, you guys would probably be the target. 
 

 

Bro, no one is going to kill a bunch of male nurses. 

[MissingInAction 25478]

5 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Bro, no one is going to kill a bunch of male nurses. 

Especially if a few can milk cats.

[BrazilHorn 6792]

17 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Bro, no one is going to kill a bunch of male nurses. 

Also they’re hard to catch speeding in their Corvette. 

[MissingInAction 25478]

Very bad AI, that's not how shell casings work. But still cool.

 

Edited December 7 by MissingInAction

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22 hours ago, Helobious said:

He was holding a phone up to his ear. That doesn’t mean he was talking to someone or that it was even on 

Also, TIL that NYC has hostels. Thought that was just a foreign thing

You should check it out!  Maybe you could actually go to New York and see your Yankees.  May even find an Amazon chain on your cot to take home.   

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[Image: A van arrives near the Hilton Hotel in Midtown Manhattan where 50-year-old, Brian Thompson was murdered. (Julia Bonavita/Fox News Digital)]
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NYPD Crime Scene Unit arrives at the scene where UnitedHealthcare CEO was shot to death in Manhattan.

A van arrives near the Hilton Hotel in Midtown Manhattan where 50-year-old, Brian Thompson was murdered. (Julia Bonavita/Fox News Digital)

Many social media users mocked the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson this week, and vented their frustrations about the U.S. health care system.

In particular, many of them reacted with laughing emojis to United Healthcare Group's Facebook post, saying the company was "deeply saddened and shocked" at Thompson's sudden death.

"Brian was a highly respected colleague and friend to all who worked with him. We are working closely with the New York Police Department and ask for your patience and understanding during this difficult time. Our hearts go out to Brian’s family and all who were close to him," United's post, which at one point had over 77,000 laughing reactions, continued.

Officials are still investigating the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, who was gunned down outside a New York City hotel early Wednesday in what police are calling a "pre-meditated, targeted attack."

[Image: UnitedHealthcare CEO image over shooting scene photo]

The CEO of UnitedHealthcare was shot and killed in NYC. (Fox News Digital/ UnitedHealthcare / Fox News)

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Police are still trying to track down the killer and are offering a $10,000 reward for information that leads to an arrest. While the NYPD has not yet disclosed a possible motive behind the killing, the nation's largest health insurance company has come under fire in recent months. In particular, it is facing scrutiny for allegedly wrongfully denying claims.

Thompson's death sparked heightened concern across the industry, with CVS pulling images of executives from its website as the manhunt for the killer continues.

UnitedHealth Group had limited the number of people allowed to comment on the post. However, droves of comments and reactions that people have posted since Wednesday are still visible.

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"The current ratio of laugh reacts to sympathetic reacts on United Health's post about the assassination of their CEO are 77k laugh to 6k sympathetic and it keeps trending even worse. The American People, however they vote, are fed up with the BS corporate private healthcare system," one person replied to United's post.

[Image: Photo of Brian Thompson was was the Chief Executive Officer of UnitedHealthcare Unit until he was shot in New York City in December 2024]

This 2017 file photo of Brian Thompson was released via Businesswire when he was named Chief Executive Officer of UnitedHealthcare Unit in 2017. (Businesswire / Fox News)

Another user posted: "I do not like celebrating the death of anyone, even my enemies, but that doesn't mean I can't celebrate justice. And for those who want to argue justice, the law isn't want defines justice. This is a man whose led a company invested in killing people for profit . . . his death is justice."

"When you shoot one man in the street it's murder. When you kill thousands of people in hospitals by taking away their ability to get treatment you're an entrepreneur," a user wrote on X.

[Image: The scene where the CEO of United Healthcare was shot to death in what looks to be a targeted attack.]

A police officer stands guard in front of the Hilton hotel in midtown Manhattan, New York, where 50-year-old UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot to death on Dec. 4, 2024. (Julia Bonavita/Fox News Digital / Fox News)

Another user remarked on X: "Today, we mourn the death of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, gunned down .... wait, I'm sorry - today we mourn the deaths of the 68,000 Americans who needlessly die each year so that insurance company execs like Brian Thompson can become multimillionaires."

Some users did express their sympathies for Thompson and his family.

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"The worst part of the video showing the death of the United Healthcare CEO is now his kids will forever have their dad’s death online. Sometimes the internet is just plain awful," a user posted on X.

Another said: "What's wrong with America? The CEO of United Healthcare is murdered. And some thoughtless souls post: ‘Thoughts and deductibles to the family. Unfortunately my condolences are out-of-network’."

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4 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Interesting stuff. Where do you find this info

By working on an unfortunate amount of shitty PE medical practice rollups. You can google “friendly PC” and “private equity” and you’ll find lots of information. 

[ztejas 44114]

12 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Solid read. Thanks for the share. 

[MissingInAction 25478]

By the way he's holding his weapon it's easy to tell he's not trained, or even proficient beyond 10 yards.

Got the job done so I'll allow it.

Edited December 7 by MissingInAction

[bolverk 30230]

My hatred for health insurance companies was cemented almost 25 years ago when I was a young pup data & research guy for a local economic analysis shop. A large insurance company with a regional headquarters in Austin had brought in a new executive from the northeast to head up the local office, and he hired our firm to run a demographic/economic assessment of the Austin area so he could get familiar with the area. I was asked to give him a one-on-one presentation and run him through the findings.

At the end of it, he said he was really pleased with what he saw regarding the young, healthy, and tech-oriented workforce figures. He explained to me that they were trying to tap into technology companies and get out of the business of providing health insurance to state employees because (and I quote him directly) "those people feel ENTITLED to healthcare," unlike young men who work in tech who aren't heavy users of healthcare. 

I paused for a moment and wrapped everything up, but I absolutely wanted to throttle that smug asshole.

[Helobious 9755]

4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Fawkes didn’t kill anyone, got caught, and was tortured and killed by the crown, iirc. I think his big thing was not rolling on his co-conspirators. 

Most overrated historical figure maybe of all time. He was a psycho zealot that just wanted to institute a catholic kingdom. On top of that, he wasn’t even the architect of the plot or a leader of the group. He was given one specific job and failed at it, which is what led to the unraveling of the plan. 

[Bevo 13825]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

My hatred for health insurance companies was cemented almost 25 years ago when I was a young pup data & research guy for a local economic analysis shop. A large insurance company with a regional headquarters in Austin had brought in a new executive from the northeast to head up the local office, and he hired our firm to run a demographic/economic assessment of the Austin area so he could get familiar with the area. I was asked to give him a one-on-one presentation and run him through the findings.

At the end of it, he said he was really pleased with what he saw regarding the young, healthy, and tech-oriented workforce figures. He explained to me that they were trying to tap into technology companies and get out of the business of providing health insurance to state employees because (and I quote him directly) "those people feel ENTITLED to healthcare," unlike young men who work in tech who aren't heavy users of healthcare. 

I paused for a moment and wrapped everything up, but I absolutely wanted to throttle that smug asshole.

He's right although he worded it poorly. I treat a lot of military patients who are great and a lot of city government patients who pretty much suck - don't want to pay and are not very respectful of people.

[Brian Fantana 6856]

16 minutes ago, Bevo said:

He's right although he worded it poorly. I treat a lot of military patients who are great and a lot of city government patients who pretty much suck - don't want to pay and are not very respectful of people.

You're kind of entirely missing the point but ok

[Bevo 13825]

20 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

You're kind of entirely missing the point but ok

Maybe but I would much prefer to treat 30 tech patients over 1 city worker who bitches out my staff over a $25 co-pay.

Edited December 7 by Bevo

[Hate 20232]

10 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Maybe but I would much prefer to treat 30 tech patients over 1 city worker who bitches out my staff over a $25 co-pay.

You should probably be murdered. 

[Bevo 13825]

7 minutes ago, Hate said:

You should probably be murdered. 

 

Yeah, I saw that earlier by BF.

[Farmerted 125]

On 12/6/2024 at 11:43 AM, Vegas64 said:

One of the things that I think few people talk about with changing the game here too is the impact of becoming and being a doctor.

Correct me if I am wrong, but when you compress everything in a nationalized way, doctors in other countries are just run of the mill professionals. They aren't making the huge money that specialists over here are and they lack the prestige the "my son is a doctor" provides. When you go from making $1 million a year to $200k a year (especially considering the laborious and difficult route of becoming a doctor) you are going to get a lot less quality and cream of the crop is my estimation. We would need to really skinny down the whole process is my guess.

Doesn't matter when you are talking about things that affect 90% of gen pop, but when talking about bleeding edge disease management and treatment and hyperspecifity in very important (cardiology, neurology, etc.) adn less important (say, dermatology or cosmetic plastic surgery), you may have few great options and a lot of options that look like what people fly to Turkey and Mexico for.

One million ? 

[Pescado_Rojo 19558]

59 minutes ago, Hate said:

You should probably be murdered. 

Let’s save that for SEC refs

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20834]

Eat the rich. 

[Captainant 28386]

43 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Let’s save that for SEC refs

I hope they have United Healthcare for insurance those fuckers

[DDD Dad 14571]

7 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Also I’m all out of outrage at this point.

This. 
 

I mean we can’t even get outraged at dozens of children mowed down. Why should I care about some guy getting shot who was getting paid $10mm to refuse care to  people paying premiums for healthcare his company profits from denying?

Edited December 8 by DDD Dad

[bolverk 30230]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

He's right although he worded it poorly. I treat a lot of military patients who are great and a lot of city government patients who pretty much suck - don't want to pay and are not very respectful of people.

Yes, every government employee is an entitled, whiny bitch, but tech bros are never disrespectful.

[RDCanecutter 26853]

8 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

As my resume offering, I suggest that we use college student interns with stopwatches to stand and stare at persons entering the smoking break area. We order the interns to demonstrably click the start button while making eye contact with the employees.  

It costs nothing (we don’t pay interns for the privilege of working for us), but it imparts the message to employees that they are always being watched - and they can’t cheat us by exceeding the company policy 4 minute 30 second smoke break rule. 

Good idea, but I was actually thinking about encouraging all the flunkies to leave the building. Fewer complications if something, say, starts burning inside.

[RDCanecutter 26853]

8 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Plus the interns can vape their day away. @RDCanecutter, this one might be a good Board Member. Again, an ideas person.

Fair enough, we'll give him a try. But we need to bulk up on pipe-hitting mission-oriented results-having malcontents too.

Schedule the interviews in a closed-off part of the building and see who shows up anyway.

[InkaUtexas 26800]

12 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Fair enough, we'll give him a try. But we need to bulk up on pipe-hitting mission-oriented results-having malcontents too.

Schedule the interviews in a closed-off part of the building and see who shows up anyway.

Once I drop those fax machines we can make your lair. Everyone needs a lair.

 

[RDCanecutter 26853]

3 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Once I drop those fax machines we can make your lair. Everyone needs a lair.

 

Good idea. And don't skimp on the MAG-MA.

[Bevo 13825]

36 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Yes, every government employee is an entitled, whiny bitch, but tech bros are never disrespectful.

 

what do you have against tech bros?