CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

[Hate 20247]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Answer. My fucking. Question. You fucking. Coward.

Yes, you are second place drama queen. Was that the question?

 

[Brisketexan 106874]

Yes, you are second place drama queen. Was that the question?
 

Read my post. The question is the words that are followed by a question mark- hell, its in all caps—you fucking troll.

[Hagbard Celine 11215]

15 hours ago, DixonHur said:

Not to mention Kennedy didn't exactly walk the walk when it came to Vietnam.  Fuck him.

wut?

nsam 263

[Hate 20247]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Read my post. The question is the words that are followed by a question mark- hell, its in all caps—you fucking troll.

What did I expect? I didn’t expect that. And I didn’t expect murder do be so easily condoned. Now please point me to my posts that support the current system. Please quote my posts that say the status quo is fine.  You won’t find them because they don’t exists. But I can easily find post condoning this murder. I really can’t figure out why you and fantana have such a difficult time understanding that. But whatever. I’m in California having a good time. 

[Brian Fantana 6862]

3 minutes ago, Hate said:

But I can easily find post condoning this murder.

Yeah the problem is no one gives a shit. You can keep crying about it but that's not going to change.

[Brisketexan 106874]

What did I expect? I didn’t expect that. And I didn’t expect murder do be so easily condoned. Now please point me to my posts that support the current system. Please quote my posts that say the status quo is fine.  You won’t find them because they don’t exists. But I can easily find post condoning this murder. I really can’t figure out why you and fantana have such a difficult time understanding that. But whatever. I’m in California having a good time. 

If you didn’t expect that outcome-a natural and predictable outcome that happens repeatedly throughout history when people are flatly denied any redress for their legitimate, life-and-death grievances-then you are dumber than a bag of hammers.
Set up a system that literally kills people.
Then tell, and show, those people “there’s nothing you can do about it.”
Then…watch them do something about it. Every. Fucking. Time.
If you didn’t see this coming, you are among the stupidest people this planet has ever seen.
This isn’t about condoning the status quo, or condoning violence in response to it. It’s about looking at the chess board that currently exists, and realizing that if you set it up this way, violence is inevitable.

[Brian Fantana 6862]

Put another way:

Oligarchs don't understand anything except money and violence. We've legislated away any possibility of going after their money, so going after their lives is the only choice.

[Brisketexan 106874]

Put another way:
Oligarchs don't understand anything except money and violence. We've legislated away any possibility of going after their money, so going after their lives is the only choice.

I mean…this.
“There’s a guy over there who literally ends the life of your loved ones. You can’t make a dent in his power. You can’t get to his money. You have no available peaceful means of changing his conduct or getting justice. What are you, typical human being, going to do about it?”
Every sane person understands that the answer to that question is “violence.” Thousands of years of history, literature, movies, you name it, tell us that obvious answer.
Which is why a healthy, functioning society keeps an enforceable social contract that uses the mechanism of “peaceful mechanisms of change and peacefully enforced consequences of anti-social conduct” to keep society from descending into “just kill the fuckers.”
I am truly gobsmacked that there is anyone in this country who is surprised by this turn of events. Particularly when countless voices have warned against this path on the basis that it makes such outcomes natural and inevitable.

[Goofyboy 3432]

I condone it. The rule of law is gone. The gang in blue out front shoulda told you, along with the rich, connected fucks that tried to over throw our government. Wealthy, white men live by different rules. If they cause thousands of deaths and millions to suffer and get taken out, oh well. Vigilantes 1 - Insurance CEO’s - millions.

[DixonHur 11959]

1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

wut?

nsam 263

So you're giving him credit for authorizing a decrease in Americans in Vietnam after he'd sent 16,000 there to support a dictator who thumbed his nose at the a Geneva Accords and installed himself (with the help of the US) as president of "South Vietnam" instead of holding free and fair elections aimed at unifying the country, because they knew Ho Chi Minh would win.

Ho Chi Minh wanted to be a US ally in the region, but he was ...gasp, a communist, so he had to be defeated.

How'd that work out?

Fuck Kennedy.

 

[Goofyboy 3432]

Just a reminder

[ClubWhatever 12283]

Fuck that.  And fuck that murderer.  I hope he is caught, convicted, and sentenced to a million years.

[Auto Driller 2566]

Unless they get a hit on the DNA from the water bottles it seems possible that he may actually get away with it. Insane that someone could be so disciplined for 10 days in the most surveilled city in the world as to not show their face. I imagine he’ll be caught eventually, though. Usually people can’t keep their mouth shut even when it’s their freedom at stake.

[VinceYoungScores 12]

Unless they get a hit on the DNA from the water bottles it seems possible that he may actually get away with it. Insane that someone could be so disciplined for 10 days in the most surveilled city in the world as to not show their face. I imagine he’ll be caught eventually, though. Usually people can’t keep their mouth shut even when it’s their freedom at stake.

If they get a hit on that DNA, it won’t be the shooter’s.

[Brian Fantana 6862]

4 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

Fuck that.  And fuck that murderer.  I hope he is caught, convicted, and sentenced to a million years.

How about fuck you bitch?

[Hagbard Celine 11215]

41 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

So you're giving him credit for authorizing a decrease in Americans in Vietnam after he'd sent 16,000 there to support a dictator who thumbed his nose at the a Geneva Accords and installed himself (with the help of the US) as president of "South Vietnam" instead of holding free and fair elections aimed at unifying the country, because they knew Ho Chi Minh would win.

Ho Chi Minh wanted to be a US ally in the region, but he was ...gasp, a communist, so he had to be defeated.

How'd that work out?

Fuck Kennedy.

so, since this is the assassination thread, what's your opinion on dealey plaza?

[DixonHur 11959]

41 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

so, since this is the assassination thread, what's your opinion on dealey plaza?

It was before my time so I don't really have a visceral reaction one way or the other.

But in general, assassinations don't shock me, and sometimes they are necessary.

[Hagbard Celine 11215]

NBC news tonight just now:

ermagherd there was monopoly money in the backpack they found in central park!

could the person of interest be trying to send a message of some kind?

WHAT COULD THAT MESSAGE BE !!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????

[Beau Vine 55859]

59 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

so, since this is the assassination thread, what's your opinion on dealey plaza?

I've always thought that it's the most ironic thing ever that Kennedy got shot right in front of the Kennedy Memorial.  

[DixonHur 11959]

7 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

NBC news tonight just now:

ermagherd there was monopoly money in the backpack they found in central park!

could the person of interest be trying to send a message of some kind?

WHAT COULD THAT MESSAGE BE !!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????

I'm stumped 🤔 

[Herpa Derpa 6343]

2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

Fuck that.  And fuck that murderer.  I hope he is caught, convicted, and sentenced to a million years.

We all did. But somebody shot him first.

[Beau Vine 55859]

5 hours ago, Hate said:

Because I am using satire to point out the utter ridiculousness that people are celebrating a murder.  It’s a slippery slope to play on.

How did you feel about Gary Plauche?

[0xdeadbeef 1699]

I'm more that a little shocked that the fact the NYPD hasn't released his identity.  Do they not yet know the name of the shooter?   Is that possible.   

With the clear image of his face, and all the other little clues, I would have thought they already had him identified and were just trying to find where he is right now.  

I assumed for the past couple days they were just staying quiet until they got their ducks in a row. Maybe a cross-state search/arrest warrant takes a little extra time.  I'm now starting to wonder if they really don't know who the shooter is.  That would be amazing (to me).

 

 

 

 

[Sawbonz 28190]

On 12/7/2024 at 5:12 PM, Bevo said:

Maybe but I would much prefer to treat 30 tech patients over 1 city worker who bitches out my staff over a $25 co-pay.

We’ve started collecting copays (or allowables if they are high deductible plans) before we see the patients. If they balk our staff has a template to follow to explain politely this is what their plan requires; we are happy to see them after they pay their portion or they can discuss with their carrier. They almost always pay. Occasionally they will leave without being seen, and very rarely ask to speak to management who tells them the same thing. 
 

The ones who pay but still want to bitch to me I empathize because fuck insurance companies. I tell them yeah while they are raising your premiums and out of pocket they are cutting what they pay us. 
 

I have also quit doing peer to peer and prior auths for prescriptions. Same for imaging unless there is likelihood of immediate harm without the test. I will prescribe an alternative from the carrier’s preferred formulary if there is an appropriate one or tell them to pay cash and use goodRX. If they don’t want to do that I tell them to call their rep.
 

With imaging I follow standard protocol to document failure of appropriate treatment for required duration (huge waste of resources in the aggregate but hey that’s what the payers want) and if still denied (Aetna loves to do this) I tell the patient to pay cash or call their rep and start looking for a new plan next enrollment period

 

 

[Captainant 28506]

4 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

I'm more that a little shocked that the fact the NYPD hasn't released his identity.  Do they not yet know the name of the shooter?   Is that possible.   

With the clear image of his face, and all the other little clues, I would have thought they already had him identified and were just trying to find where he is right now.  

I assumed for the past couple days they were just staying quiet until they got their ducks in a row. Maybe a cross-state search/arrest warrant takes a little extra time.  I'm now starting to wonder if they really don't know who the shooter is.  That would be amazing (to me).

Well for one, I don't think they know who the person is for certain. But releasing a possible name would cause a shitload of harassment around the country, plus set up an "I am Spartacus" moment

[B00M 6729]

2 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

Fuck that.  And fuck that murderer.  I hope he is caught, convicted, and sentenced to a million years.

Is this a humblebrag? How many nervous executives we got in this bitch? 

[Hate 20247]

I understand why he did what he did but I don’t condone it, just as I understand the frustration over insurers. 

[TwiceHorn 32071]

6 hours ago, nineliveslost said:

I think it's hilarious that some are celebrating the killer / killing but are against the death penalty 

Hardly any parallels at all.  The issue with death as a penalty is not death itself or that death is not "deserved," it is that it is state-sponsored following a pretty flawed process that results in a lot of wrongful convictions.

Also, there is the "celebration" of the murder of the chief executive of a health insurer, and a bad one at that.  That is the death of a symbol, more than a singular human.

No one is really celebrating the death of Brian Thompson, a human.

Now, where the line between the symbol and the human begins and ends is a different question.  And also poses some pretty harsh questions for Brian Thompson the human.

Edited December 9 by TwiceHorn

[B00M 6729]

1 minute ago, Hate said:

I understand why he did what he did but I don’t condone it, just as I understand the frustration over insurers. 

Get this milquetoast shit outta here dawg. We all understood you the first time you said it. Since then, it’s like you forgot where you were, judging us from your high horse. You know why you’re here, sorry or congrats if this hit too close to home. 

[The Dog 44853]

[Auto Driller 2566]

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"We're implementing a more efficient, market-based approach to murder response," explained NYPD Commissioner Thomas Romano. "Those reporting a murder will now be asked to provide the victim's most recent W-2 form, investment portfolio, or proof of yacht ownership before being connected to emergency dispatch."

The new system, dubbed "Net Worth Net Response," will route calls involving victims with annual incomes below $10,000,000 to the same hotline used to report potholes, noise complaints, and suspicious pigeons.

"Look, when someone worth millions is murdered, every second counts," said Deputy Commissioner Sarah Mitchell. "We can't have our emergency lines clogged with calls about people who don't even have a summer home in the Hamptons."

The department has issued guidelines for determining call routing, including a helpful flowchart asking questions like "Does the victim have a personal sommelier?" and "How many infinity pools are visible from the crime scene?"

Local advocacy groups have criticized the policy, but the NYPD maintains that lower-income murder victims will still receive a response "within 5-7 business days, excluding holidays and whenever the Knicks are playing at home."

To streamline the process further, the department plans to release a smartphone app allowing users to upload victims' bank statements directly.

At press time, the department was reportedly considering a premium "Platinum Plus" emergency response subscription service for residents of penthouses and anyone with "Baron," "Duke," or "Blockchain Developer" in their job title.

 

[Brian Fantana 6862]

1 hour ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

I'm more that a little shocked that the fact the NYPD hasn't released his identity.  Do they not yet know the name of the shooter?   Is that possible.   

With the clear image of his face, and all the other little clues, I would have thought they already had him identified and were just trying to find where he is right now.  

I assumed for the past couple days they were just staying quiet until they got their ducks in a row. Maybe a cross-state search/arrest warrant takes a little extra time.  I'm now starting to wonder if they really don't know who the shooter is.  That would be amazing (to me).

If they had any clue who he was, they would have released his identity already. The dude in the picture is probably not even the killer.

[Hagbard Celine 11215]

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 NEW YORK — In a groundbreaking effort to optimize emergency services in light of the failures of such services on the early morning of December 4th, the New York Police Department announced Wednesday a new protocol requiring murders of lower-income residents to be reported through the city's 311 non-emergency line, reserving 911 for homicides of the financially secure.

"We're implementing a more efficient, market-based approach to murder response," explained NYPD Commissioner Thomas Romano. "Those reporting a murder will now be asked to provide the victim's most recent W-2 form, investment portfolio, or proof of yacht ownership before being connected to emergency dispatch."

The new system, dubbed "Net Worth Net Response," will route calls involving victims with annual incomes below $10,000,000 to the same hotline used to report potholes, noise complaints, and suspicious pigeons.

"Look, when someone worth millions is murdered, every second counts," said Deputy Commissioner Sarah Mitchell. "We can't have our emergency lines clogged with calls about people who don't even have a summer home in the Hamptons."

The department has issued guidelines for determining call routing, including a helpful flowchart asking questions like "Does the victim have a personal sommelier?" and "How many infinity pools are visible from the crime scene?"

Local advocacy groups have criticized the policy, but the NYPD maintains that lower-income murder victims will still receive a response "within 5-7 business days, excluding holidays and whenever the Knicks are playing at home."

To streamline the process further, the department plans to release a smartphone app allowing users to upload victims' bank statements directly.

At press time, the department was reportedly considering a premium "Platinum Plus" emergency response subscription service for residents of penthouses and anyone with "Baron," "Duke," or "Blockchain Developer" in their job title.

[choripan 796]

6 hours ago, Hate said:

What did I expect? I didn’t expect that. And I didn’t expect murder do be so easily condoned. Now please point me to my posts that support the current system. Please quote my posts that say the status quo is fine.  You won’t find them because they don’t exists. But I can easily find post condoning this murder. I really can’t figure out why you and fantana have such a difficult time understanding that. But whatever. I’m in California having a good time. 

I'll say it if someone else won't. This is about how I feel.

 

[workswithseed 2204]

16 minutes ago, choripan said:

I'll say it if someone else won't. This is about how I feel.

 

[0xdeadbeef 1699]

Timeline from https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-thompson-united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-suspect-gunman-new-york/

6:15am exits subway

6:17 inside starbucks

6:45 shooting

6:48 rides bike into central park

6:56 "appears" to exits park on a bike on upper west side near 70th or 80th street

7:04 near W 86th on foot and takes a taxi to Port Authority Bus Terminal near GW bridge  

"But investigators are still unclear which bus he may have taken, Kenny said."

 

Assuming they were tracking the correct person leaving the park, he was probably out of NYC by 9am.  There are so many cameras in Manhattan I have no doubt that they will eventually trace his movements to the specific bus. They might even track him getting off a bus at a terminal somewhere, but small towns aren't going to have much tracking beyond that.  Tracing his movement is probably a dead end. Which means they need to identify him by a fingerprint, a photo, the dna on the starbucks cup,  the backpack he left in the park, or the shells he left.   Time will tell if he was sloppy or he knew what he was doing and left them nothing to go on.   

  

[Bevo 13870]

2 minutes ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

Timeline from https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-thompson-united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-suspect-gunman-new-york/

6:15am exits subway

6:17 inside starbucks

6:45 shooting

6:48 rides bike into central park

6:56 "appears" to exits park on a bike on upper west side near 70th or 80th street

7:04 near W 86th on foot and takes a taxi to Port Authority Bus Terminal near GW bridge  

"But investigators are still unclear which bus he may have taken, Kenny said."

 

Assuming they were tracking the correct person leaving the park, he was probably out of NYC by 9am.  There are so many cameras in Manhattan I have no doubt that they will eventually trace his movements to the specific bus. They might even track him getting off a bus at a terminal somewhere, but small towns aren't going to have much tracking beyond that.  Tracing his movement is probably a dead end. Which means they need to identify him by a fingerprint, a photo, the dna on the starbucks cup,  the backpack he left in the park, or the shells he left.   Time will tell if he was sloppy or he knew what he was doing and left them nothing to go on.   

  

It seems to me that they have too good of a photo for him to be able to get away. Plus with DNA evidence and probably figuring out what state he is from (Georgia), I think they will catch him soon.

[ztejas 44223]

23 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The point of warning here, which many in the “privileged classes” have raised the alarm on, is something so long known JFK commented “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
That’s it. Fuck people over long enough, and they’ll break and fight back the only way they can.
So, maybe…don’t fuck people over cruelly and relentlessly. Just a thought.

I like JFK but here's a better version.

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And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. 

That guy owned slaves though so we should probably erase everything he ever wrote. 

[Auto Driller 2566]

I think it’s clear that his selection of bus travel was very intentional. Much less stringent screening than air travel. He probably used the same fake NJ drivers license that he used at the hostel. They may be able to track him to a specific outbound bus, but then what? Which stop did he get off on? How’s the security footage in Bumfuck, West Virginia?

[ztejas 44223]

6 hours ago, DixonHur said:

So you're giving him credit for authorizing a decrease in Americans in Vietnam after he'd sent 16,000 there to support a dictator who thumbed his nose at the a Geneva Accords and installed himself (with the help of the US) as president of "South Vietnam" instead of holding free and fair elections aimed at unifying the country, because they knew Ho Chi Minh would win.

Ho Chi Minh wanted to be a US ally in the region, but he was ...gasp, a communist, so he had to be defeated.

How'd that work out?

Fuck Kennedy.

 

Lmao.

The CIA killed Kennedy to keep that sham war going. 

You're a moron. 

[Helobious 9817]

What a weird case. I have a hard time believing someone angry at UHC or with a grievance against the health insurance industry would have a plan this meticulous. 

[NorthLoop 14459]

2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What a weird case. I have a hard time believing someone angry at UHC or with a grievance against the health insurance industry would have a plan this meticulous. 

Yeah typically people with grudges against insurance companies are not the meticulous type......... as if one has fuck all to do with the other. 

[Helobious 9817]

I mean someone with a vendetta I would think would just care about the revenge above all. This guy took almost unprecedented lengths to cover his tracks

[Hornius Emeritus 12796]

31 minutes ago, Bevo said:

It seems to me that they have too good of a photo for him to be able to get away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DixonHur 11959]

28 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Lmao.

The CIA killed Kennedy to keep that sham war going. 

You're a moron. 

Being called a moron by @ztejas is like being called a sheep fucker by an aggy.

[NorthLoop 14459]

14 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I mean someone with a vendetta I would think would just care about the revenge above all. This guy took almost unprecedented lengths to cover his tracks

It's not too hard to believe that someone's top priority would be revenge, with priority #2 being not getting caught. Maybe he has a family he doesn't want to abandon. 

[Helobious 9817]

16 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The shooter had neither of those things that would fool absolutely nobody. And damn, making masks illegal would sure suck for hospitals and people in cold climates. Oh well I guess. 

[Murfdogg21 4563]

8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Set up a system that literally kills people.
 

[0xdeadbeef 1699]

19 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

 

 

Don't be surprised if you hear about Messi ordering late night Fast Food around town.

https://www.amazon.com/Costume-Coverage-Visible-Football-Headgear/dp/B0DDTWMP8Z/      

 $3.99 (+3.00 shipping) 

 

[Hornius Emeritus 12796]

12 minutes ago, Helobious said:

The shooter had neither of those things

How do you know?