CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

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2 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

Wish.com Jake Gyllenhaal vs. Jake Gyllenhaal.

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😂😂😁

Popeyes employees would have helped him get rid of the gun

I’m thinking Mangione blew it when we went to McDonald’s. He goes to a Waffle House and someone hides the gun for him and probably keeps it, he goes to a Popeyes and nobody is talking to the cops, he goes to a Starbucks and people buy him breakfast.

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1 hour ago, F250 said:

Wish.com Jake Gyllenhaal vs. Jake Gyllenhaal.

My wife with me everyday imo

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9 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Supposedly Luigi's manifesto.
 

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The Allopathic Complex and Its Consequences

luigi mangione's last words

 

LM

Dec 09, 2024

 

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The second amendment means I am my own chief executive and commander in chief of my own military. I authorize my own act of self-defense in response to a hostile entity making war on me and my family.

 

Nelson Mandela says no form of viooence can be excused. Camus says it’s all the same, whether you live or die or have a cup of coffee. MLK says violence never brings permanent peace. Gandhi says that non-violence is the mightiest power available to mankind.

 

That’s who they tell you are heroes. That’s who our revolutionaries are.

 

Yet is that not capitalistic? Non-violence keeps the system working at full speed ahead.

 

What did it get us. Look in the mirror.

 

They want us to be non-violent, so that they can grow fat off the blood they take from us.

 

The only way out is through. Not all of us will make it. Each of us is our own chief executive. You have to decide what you will tolerate.

 

In Gladiator 1 Maximus cuts into the military tattoo that identifies him as part of the roman legion. His friend asks “Is that the sign of your god?” As Maximus carves deeper into his own flesh, as his own blood drips down his skin, Maximus smiles and nods yes. The tattoo represents the emperor, who is god. The god emperor has made himself part of Maximus’s own flesh. The only way to destroy the emperor is to destroy himself. Maximus smiles through the pain because he knows it is worth it.

 

These might be my last words. I don’t know when they will come for me. I will resist them at any cost. That’s why I smile through the pain.

 

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They diagnosed my mother with severe neuropathy when she was forty-one years old. She said it started ten years before that with burning sensations in her feet and occasional sharp stabbing pains. At first the pain would last a few moments, then fade to tingling, then numbness, then fade to nothing a few days later.

 

The first time the pain came she ignored it. Then it came a couple times a year and she ignored it. Then every couple months. Then a couple times a month. Then a couple times a week. At that point by the time the tingling faded to numbness, the pain would start, and the discomfort was constant. At that point even going from the couch to the kitchen to make her own lunch became a major endeavor

 

She started with ibuprofen, until the stomach aches and acid reflux made her switch to acetaminophen. Then the headaches and barely sleeping made her switch back to ibuprofen.

The first doctor said it was psychosomatic. Nothing was wrong. She needed to relax, destress, sleep more.

 

The second doctor said it was a compressed nerve in her spine. She needed back surgery. It would cost $180,000. Recovery would be six months minimum before walking again. Twelve months for full potential recovery, and she would never lift more than ten pounds of weight again.

 

The third doctor performed a Nerve Conduction Study, Electromyography, MRI, and blood tests. Each test cost $800 to $1200. She hit the $6000 deductible of her UnitedHealthcare plan in October. Then the doctor went on vacation, and my mother wasn’t able to resume tests until January when her deductible reset.

The tests showed severe neuropathy. The $180,000 surgery would have had no effect.

 

They prescribed opioids for the pain. At first the pain relief was worth the price of constant mental fog and constipation. She didn’t tell me about that until later. All I remember is we took a trip for the first time in years, when she drove me to Monterey to go to the aquarium. I saw an otter in real life, swimming on its back. We left at 7am and listened to Green Day on the four-hour car ride. Over time, the opioids stopped working. They made her MORE sensitive to pain, and she felt withdrawal symptoms after just two or three hours.

Then gabapentin. By now the pain was so bad she couldn’t exercise, which compounded the weight gain from the slowed metabolic rate and hormonal shifts. And it barely helped the pain, and made her so fatigued she would go an entire day without getting out of bed.

 

Then Corticosteroids. Which didn’t even work.

 

The pain was so bad I would hear my mother wake up in the night screaming in pain. I would run into her room, asking if she’s OK. Eventually I stopped getting up. She’d yell out anguished shrieks of wordless pain or the word “fuck” stretched and distended to its limits. I’d turn over and go back to sleep.

 

All of this while they bled us dry with follow-up appointment after follow-up appointment, specialist consultations, and more imagine scans. Each appointment was promised to be fully covered, until the insurance claims were delayed and denied. Allopathic medicine did nothing to help my mother’s suffering. Yet it is the foundation of our entire society.

My mother told me that on a good day the nerve pain was like her legs were immersed in ice water. On a bad day it felt like her legs were clamped in a machine shop vice, screwed down to where the cranks stopped turning, then crushed further until her ankle bones sprintered and cracked to accommodate the tightening clamp. She had more bad days than good.

My mother crawled to the bathroom on her hands and knees. I slept in the living room to create more distance from her cries in the night. I still woke up, and still went back to sleep.

Back then I thought there was nothing I could do.

 

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The high copays made consistent treatment impossible. New treatments were denied as “not medically necessary.” Old treatments didn’t work, and still put us out for thousands of dollars.

 

UnitedHealthcare limited specialist consultations to twice a year.

 

Then they refused to cover advanced imaging, which the specialists required for an appointment.

 

Prior authorizations took weeks, then months.

 

UnitedHealthcare constantly changed their claim filing procedure. They said my mother’s doctor needed to fax his notes. Then UnitedHealthcare said they did not save faxed patient correspondence, and required a hardcopy of the doctor’s typed notes to be mailed. Then they said they never received the notes. They were unable to approve the claim until they had received and filed the notes.

 

They promised coverage, and broke their word to my mother.

 

With every delay, my anger surged. With every denial, I wanted to throw the doctor through the glass wall of their hospital waiting room.

 

But it wasn’t them. It wasn’t the doctors, the receptionists, administrators, pharmacists, imaging technicians, or anyone we ever met. It was UnitedHealthcare.

 

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People are dying. Evil has become institutionalized. Corporations make billions of dollars off the pain, suffering, death, and anguished cries in the night of millions of Americans.

We entered into an agreement for healthcare with a legally binding contract that promised care commensurate with our insurance payments and medical needs. Then UnitedHealthcare changes the rules to suit their own profits. They think they make the rules, and think that because it’s legal that no one can punish them.

They think there’s no one out there who will stop them.

 

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Now my own chronic back pain wakes me in the night, screaming in pain. I sought out another type of healing that showed me the real antidote to what ails us.

I bide my time, saving the last of my strength to strike my final blows. All extractors must be forced to swallow the bitter pain they deal out to millions.

 

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As our own chief executives, it’s our obligation to make our own lives better. First and foremost, we must seek to improve our own circumstances and defend ourselves. As we do so, our actions have ripple effects that can improve the lives of others.

 

Rules exist between two individuals, in a network that covers the entire earth. Some of these rules are written down. Some of these rules emerge from natural respect between two individuals. Some of these rules are defined in physical laws, like the properties of gravity, magnetism or the potential energy stored in the chemical bonds of potassium nitrate.

 

No single document better encapsulates the belief that all people are equal in fundamental worth and moral status and the frameworks for fostering collective well-being than the US constitution.

 

Writing a rule down makes it into a law. I don’t give a fuck about the law. Law means nothing. What does matter is following the guidance of our own logic and what we learn from those before us to maximize our own well-being, which will then maximize the well-being of our loved ones and community.

 

That’s where UnitedHealthcare went wrong. They violated their contract with my mother, with me, and tens of millions of other Americans. This threat to my own health, my family’s health, and the health of our country’s people requires me to respond with an act of war.

 

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So he’s just another psycho.  Disappointing 

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14 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

There's wasting your life, and then there's what this guy did.  Not sure I've ever seen more thrown away for such blatant stupidity.  Too bad the Unabomb died.  He could have filled his jailed existence swapping brilliant, insightful letters with his hero.

I dunno, seems to me like a trade of one young guy for one particularly bad health company CEO is a pretty good one, and the youngster knows/knew it.

Five to one, baby
One in five
No one here gets out alive...

May take a week
And it may take longer
They got the guns
But we got the numbers
Gonna win, yeah, we're takin' over
Come on!

 

 

 

[B00M 6,729]

5 hours ago, Born to Run said:

My wife with me everyday imo

[Captainant 28,507]

26 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So he’s just another psycho.  Disappointing 

I mean, he went and gunned a man down in cold blood. That's not something a stable person does

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Some of these rules are defined in physical laws, like the properties of gravity, magnetism or the potential energy stored in the chemical bonds of potassium nitrate.

 

So there's a bomb somewhere, right? Is this what the surprise coming on December 11th is?

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9 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

I don’t know. If I was a Japanese salaryman, I think I’d much prefer the Japanese anime cosplay version to ours.

You would never catch me wearing those shoes with that outfit 

[FartingMonk 3,614]

The only reason he got caught was because he pulled down his mask to flirt with a female hostel worker.  Pussy undefeated 

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13 hours ago, HouTex said:

Well done briefing by the PA governor. 

If you say so. . .
 

 

[B00M 6,729]

It was a 3D printed Glock 

[B00M 6,729]

The CAD file for the lower and the parts kits are readily available. People have been building these for several years now. This is the 1st high profile crime committed with a printed gun as far as I know. If it’s unclear, the lower (or frame) is the printed part. The lower/frame is the grip that holds the trigger, magazine, etc, and it is the legal firearm. 

Edited December 10 by B00M

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Whatever happened to that dude here in Austin who was a figure in the printed gun movement then went to jail for underage hookers? Haven’t heard about him since. As I remember he kind of looked like baker mayfield.

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Haven’t heard about him since.

That’s usually a side effect of being sent to federal PMITA prison.

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8 minutes ago, MAUFRAIS said:

Whatever happened to that dude here in Austin who was a figure in the printed gun movement then went to jail for underage hookers? Haven’t heard about him since. As I remember he kind of looked like baker mayfield.

You mean what was his Surly username?

[elfenix 34,744]

[Armybrat 41,388]

15 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Maybe he just wanted inspiration to write a hit country song?

Somebody shot his dog?

[B00M 6,729]

14 minutes ago, MAUFRAIS said:

Whatever happened to that dude here in Austin who was a figure in the printed gun movement then went to jail for underage hookers? Haven’t heard about him since. As I remember he kind of looked like baker mayfield.

He’s a shit head that runs a site called defcad that collects firearm CAD files that designers have freely released to the public. The 3D printed firearm community is largely all about freely sharing information and designs. Defcad puts them behind a paywall and tricks noobs into giving them money. The “liberator” design that made him infamous is dangerous garbage by today’s standards. 

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12 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It is amazing that half the internet was speculating that this guy was John Wick but in fact he was tweeting about banning flashlights and conveyor belt sushi.

 

I want a t-shirt that says "Revitalize Okinawan Karate." 

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16 hours ago, Covri said:

It’s a bunch of Albanians and Greeks running those places in Texas, not Italians.

That explains the suckage.

[Captainant 28,507]

37 minutes ago, B00M said:

The CAD file for the lower and the parts kits are readily available. People have been building these for several years now. This is the 1st high profile crime committed with a printed gun as far as I know. If it’s unclear, the lower (or frame) is the printed part. The lower/frame is the grip that holds the trigger, magazine, etc, and it is the legal firearm. 

I'd bet it was a lower body that was printed, with the rails pressed in to make the complete lower frame. Something like carbon fiber reinforced nylon would handle the load just fine. It really is nuts how much of a complete gun you can buy as parts - when I built an AR a decade ago I was surprised that the bare lower receiver was the only regulated part. And even then a drill press could finish an 80% lower, and then you can buy a parts kit from pretty much anywhere to finish it

No welding required, just press fits and pins.

In a different climate I'd bet a dollar that those parts kits start to be more regulated and controlled, but who knows nowadays

Edited December 10 by Captainant

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4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I'd bet it was a lower body that was printed, with the rails pressed in to make the complete lower frame. Something like carbon fiber reinforced nylon would handle the load just fine. It really is nuts how much of a complete gun you can buy as parts - when I built an AR a decade ago I was surprised that the bare lower receiver was the only regulated part. And even then a drill press could finish an 80% lower, and then you can buy a parts kit from pretty much anywhere to finish it

No welding required, just press fits and pins.

In a different climate I'd bet a dollar that those parts kits start to be more regulated and controlled, but who knows nowadays

south austin's mom would handle the load just fine

[Evil Bill Obrien 3,510]

Guessing the can was homemade too, hence no booster/nielson device and why he had to cycle the slide by hand every shot.

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[Captainant 28,507]

2 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Guessing the can was homemade too, hence no booster/nielson device and why he had to cycle the slide by hand every shot.

It's not like mufflers are classified technology - silencers are incredbly simple devices that are basically just a tube with a hole on each end, and a series of baffles/chambers between em.

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4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's not like mufflers are classified technology - silencers are incredbly simple devices that are basically just a tube with a hole on each end, and a series of baffles/chambers between em.

Buddy made one with an old maglite for a .22 pistol and it worked like a champ.

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2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's not like mufflers are classified technology - silencers are incredbly simple devices that are basically just a tube with a hole on each end, and a series of baffles/chambers between em.

Didn't a lot of shady companies get in a bad way with the ATF pretty recently for selling "cylindrical fuel filters" that just so happened to have the proper thread size and pitch on one end to be used as a suppressor?

[Captainant 28,507]

1 minute ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Didn't a lot of shady companies get in a bad way with the ATF pretty recently for selling "cylindrical fuel filters" that just so happened to have the proper thread size and pitch on one end to be used as a suppressor?

There was an outfit that was selling an "adapter" for standard oil filters that would thread onto most barrels. They got away with it because it only became a suppressor if you also had an oil filter nearby, but eventually the ATF caught on and wrote a letter and made the adapter itself registered.

And yeah, it turns out it's pretty easy to put threads onto NPT fittings lol. 

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1 hour ago, Blotto said:

You would never catch me wearing those shoes with that outfit 

Especially without socks. 

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13 hours ago, Captainant said:

Yeah 3D printing your own gun and silencer and then not throwing them away while crossing multiple state lines is pretty stupid for a guy who had a well thought out first half game plan

So he's the Steve Sarkisian of assassins?

[chainsaw 10,280]

He went through the trouble of the fake IDs, the e-bike, 3D printing a gun, but really had no coherent strategy for making an escape.

We also haven't seen anything but a hoax manifesto.

Edited December 10 by chainsaw

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6 minutes ago, Goredho said:

So he's the Steve Sarkisian of assassins?

[South Austin 53,220]

Not a trailblazing take, but fuck this guy. Also, fuck heath care insurance, and fuck the deceased for running one of those shitty fuck-you-over companies. But fuck the killer.

[B00M 6,729]

8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I'd bet it was a lower body that was printed, with the rails pressed in to make the complete lower frame. Something like carbon fiber reinforced nylon would handle the load just fine. It really is nuts how much of a complete gun you can buy as parts - when I built an AR a decade ago I was surprised that the bare lower receiver was the only regulated part. And even then a drill press could finish an 80% lower, and then you can buy a parts kit from pretty much anywhere to finish it

No welding required, just press fits and pins.

In a different climate I'd bet a dollar that those parts kits start to be more regulated and controlled, but who knows nowadays

CF nylon is nice if you’re trying to print an OEM quality frame but not truly necessary. $100 3D printers, out of the box, will print PLA+ which is absolutely strong enough for 95% of modern printable designs. Some designs, like the 3DP90, NylAUG, Orca, etc require some non-PLA parts but I digress.

The downside to PLA is also what makes it so easy to print — it can’t handle prolonged heat exposure. PLA printed parts will often warp if left in a car on a summer day. Anyway, there are also printable lowers for ARs that are extremely reliable (UBAR2, Hoffman, etc) along with plenty of shops that will happily sell complete uppers. 

As for regulating parts kits… a high profile case like this could motivate a nationwide push. But self-made firearms are as American as apple pie and something we’ve done since the earliest colonial days. There are a few states that have passed laws against self-made firearms, but it’s legal to make your own gun in the vast majority of states. 

‘Murica! 

[B00M 6,729]

17 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Didn't a lot of shady companies get in a bad way with the ATF pretty recently for selling "cylindrical fuel filters" that just so happened to have the proper thread size and pitch on one end to be used as a suppressor?

I think so. Those and “solvent traps” … I don’t Google that shit because I like my dog. 

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2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Not a trailblazing take, but fuck this guy.

Your mom has the same take, but it’s definitely not limited to just this one guy.

[Captainant 28,507]

19 minutes ago, B00M said:

As for regulating parts kits… a high profile case like this could motivate a nationwide push. But self-made firearms are as American as apple pie and something we’ve done since the earliest colonial days. There are a few states that have passed laws against self-made firearms, but it’s legal to make your own gun in the vast majority of states. 

IMO "making" a firearm, as in buying raw materials and milling them yourself, is very different from buying a pre-manufactured parts kit and assembling. And a much easier thing to draw a clear line on

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23 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Not a trailblazing take, but fuck this guy. Also, fuck heath care insurance, and fuck the deceased for running one of those shitty fuck-you-over companies. But fuck the killer.

how much did you lose on United Healthcare stock? 

[MissingInAction 25,554]

13 hours ago, DixonHur said:

Stay in your lane, Luigi ...killing CEOs is one thing, but you lost me at banning pocket pussies.

Yep. Death penalty for this guy.

[MissingInAction 25,554]

52 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's not like mufflers are classified technology - silencers are incredbly simple devices that are basically just a tube with a hole on each end, and a series of baffles/chambers between em.

A potato makes an excellent suppressor.

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31 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Not a trailblazing take, but fuck this guy. Also, fuck heath care insurance, and fuck the deceased for running one of those shitty fuck-you-over companies. But fuck the killer.

but fuck or butt fuck

[Brisketexan 106,874]

36 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Not a trailblazing take, but fuck this guy. Also, fuck heath care insurance, and fuck the deceased for running one of those shitty fuck-you-over companies. But fuck the killer.

I'm with you on everything but the "fuck this guy."  Maybe I'll get there.  Maybe it is a true "fuck this guy" situation, and he just went the fuck off.  Want to know more about his story and motive.  I remain in the cautious territory of 

...but we'll see.  Again, if we set up a system that fucks over tens of thousands of people on matters of life and death, and that system functionally has no recourse......if it wasn't this shooter and victim, it was gonna be another shooter and victim.  Create a system that deals out death and is immune to any peaceful means of reform/correction, and you've made a violent response inevitable.

As a society, we've made that choice.  We have set up that system, and built an impenetrable wall of protection around it so that it cannot and will not change by any peaceful means.  Which means we have selected for a system where violence is the only recourse.  Dumb as hell, but that's what we've chosen.  So...

Edited December 10 by Brisketexan

['stache 22,131]

I'm fine with what he did. I'm fine if he gets punished. Would have been fine if he had gotten away. Fuck the dead guy, completely indifferent to his demise.

[B00M 6,729]

2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

IMO "making" a firearm, as in buying raw materials and milling them yourself, is very different from buying a pre-manufactured parts kit and assembling. And a much easier thing to draw a clear line on

Reclassifying uppers or parts kits as firearms will require an act of congress. Americans used foreign imported parts to build firearms during the revolution, the clear line exists. At least, we both know the current SCOTUS will find it if they need to.  

Milling isn’t even a requirement anymore. The FGC-9 has excellent build instructions and it’s printed and built from hardware store parts. It’s in metric as it’s intended for countries that don’t use freedom units. All you need is a hand drill, metal files, etc. You can even chamber and rifle the barrel using 3D printed parts, wire, and a power supply.

American ingenuity will, uh, find a way. 

[Herbie Hancock 7,489]

A potato makes an excellent suppressor.

I’ve seen a potato used twice; a suicide and a murder, and both times it was extremely effective.

[gofuckyourself 9,074]

1 hour ago, smuggs said:

I want a t-shirt that says "Revitalize Okinawan Karate." 

I want one that says "Come and Take It" but with a fleshlight

Sorta NSFW. Best I could do on short notice...

Spoiler

 

[MissingInAction 25,554]

They can have my flesh light when they pry it from my cold, dead, sticky hands.