CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

[crash_davis 23468]

LOL. People are FAFO'ing. It'll be interesting the next time it's not an idle threat. I almost feel bad for her. Her pic says, "I can't even comprehend the ways that I fucked up!"

 

https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/lakeland-woman-threatens-insurance-company-says-delay-deny-depose-police/

LAKELAND, Fla. (WFLA) — A Lakeland woman was charged Tuesday after police said she ended a call to an insurance company with the words, “Delay, Deny, Depose.”

In an arrest affidavit, the Lakeland Police Department said officers were contacted by the FBI on Tuesday, Dec. 10 regarding an alleged threat made over the phone.

Briana Boston, 42, had reportedly placed a call to BlueCross BlueShield regarding recent medical insurance claims she was denied. The entire phone call was recorded, according to the affidavit.

Near the end of the call, investigators said Boston could be heard stating, “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.” The first three words are similar to those written on the ammunition that a gunman used in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City last week.

 

Police made contact with Boston at her home in Lakeland, where she reportedly admitted to using those words during the call, telling detectives that “healthcare companies played games and deserved karma from the world because they are evil.”

Boston reportedly told detectives she used the phrase “because it’s what is in the news right now,” and that she had learned of the phrase due to the UnitedHealthcare homicide.

However, Boston added that she does not own any firearms and “was not a danger to anyone,” police said.

 

[workswithseed 2204]

2 hours ago, DaysOff said:

Prayer doesn't work. Because there is no god.

Moving on. Will this be a trial by jury? There's going to be lots of Poppys in the pool regardless of venue.

Oh, I understand there is no god. You're praying to the wrong god.

[Foosters 18267]

4 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

LOL. People are FAFO'ing. It'll be interesting the next time it's not an idle threat. I almost feel bad for her. Her pic says, "I can't even comprehend the ways that I fucked up!"

 

https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/lakeland-woman-threatens-insurance-company-says-delay-deny-depose-police/

LAKELAND, Fla. (WFLA) — A Lakeland woman was charged Tuesday after police said she ended a call to an insurance company with the words, “Delay, Deny, Depose.”

In an arrest affidavit, the Lakeland Police Department said officers were contacted by the FBI on Tuesday, Dec. 10 regarding an alleged threat made over the phone.

Briana Boston, 42, had reportedly placed a call to BlueCross BlueShield regarding recent medical insurance claims she was denied. The entire phone call was recorded, according to the affidavit.

Near the end of the call, investigators said Boston could be heard stating, “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.” The first three words are similar to those written on the ammunition that a gunman used in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City last week.

 

Police made contact with Boston at her home in Lakeland, where she reportedly admitted to using those words during the call, telling detectives that “healthcare companies played games and deserved karma from the world because they are evil.”

Boston reportedly told detectives she used the phrase “because it’s what is in the news right now,” and that she had learned of the phrase due to the UnitedHealthcare homicide.

However, Boston added that she does not own any firearms and “was not a danger to anyone,” police said.

 

well that's going to be a not-guilty verdict

[Zepol87 9335]

13 hours ago, SpiralOut said:

When the punishment for a crime is a fine, it's legalizing crime for rich people/entities.

Remember when TD Bank (and some others too I think) laundered drug money for the cartels?  They literally changed the cashier's windows to be able to fit the duffel bags full of cash the cartels were bringing them.  That's how much money they were washing for these murderous psychos.  Fined $3 Billion.  Which was like one day of revenue for them or some shit.

The people at these corporations have completely subverted the social contract for profits.  If the government/law isn't willing to bring them to heel, it's no surprise that the citizenry will be ok with regular people doing it themselves.    

Yea my company was fined 48 million by the FTC and everyone was freaking out. All I heard in the board meetings was we are fine we accounted for this we just wanted the lawsuit out of the news. 

Edited December 12 by Zepol87

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2153]

20 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

LOL. People are FAFO'ing. It'll be interesting the next time it's not an idle threat. I almost feel bad for her. Her pic says, "I can't even comprehend the ways that I fucked up!"

 

https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/lakeland-woman-threatens-insurance-company-says-delay-deny-depose-police/

LAKELAND, Fla. (WFLA) — A Lakeland woman was charged Tuesday after police said she ended a call to an insurance company with the words, “Delay, Deny, Depose.”

In an arrest affidavit, the Lakeland Police Department said officers were contacted by the FBI on Tuesday, Dec. 10 regarding an alleged threat made over the phone.

Briana Boston, 42, had reportedly placed a call to BlueCross BlueShield regarding recent medical insurance claims she was denied. The entire phone call was recorded, according to the affidavit.

Near the end of the call, investigators said Boston could be heard stating, “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.” The first three words are similar to those written on the ammunition that a gunman used in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City last week.

 

Police made contact with Boston at her home in Lakeland, where she reportedly admitted to using those words during the call, telling detectives that “healthcare companies played games and deserved karma from the world because they are evil.”

Boston reportedly told detectives she used the phrase “because it’s what is in the news right now,” and that she had learned of the phrase due to the UnitedHealthcare homicide.

However, Boston added that she does not own any firearms and “was not a danger to anyone,” police said.

 

how on earth is that a crime?  mere threats can't be a crime under the 1st amendment, right?  doesn't it have to be paired with some sort of reasonably immediate ability to carry it out or something?

[NorthLoop 14459]

1 minute ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

how on earth is that a crime?  mere threats can't be a crime under the 1st amendment, right?  doesn't it have to be paired with some sort of reasonably immediate ability to carry it out or something?

She didn't even threaten them. Hope she gets paid. 

[BabaYaga 15621]

Getting ever closer

[royiv 9771]

44 minutes ago, Foosters said:

well that's going to be a not-guilty verdict

It won’t get far enough to get to trial. I bet the charges get dropped outright.

[Captainant 28505]

34 minutes ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

how on earth is that a crime?  mere threats can't be a crime under the 1st amendment, right?  doesn't it have to be paired with some sort of reasonably immediate ability to carry it out or something?

she spoke about the corproate overlords in a disrepsectful way

[Pescado_Rojo 19583]

4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

she spoke about the corproate overlords in a disrepsectful way

This. And while the charges might eventually get dropped, she was arrested, had to pay for a lawyer, and had her shit put on blast in the news to try and deter any other filthy poor from speaking ill of their corporate overlords. 

[Gatorubet 30710]

11 minutes ago, Captainant said:

 

We’ll, yeah.  That would be illegal Contempt of Oligarch.

[Brian Fantana 6862]

51 minutes ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

how on earth is that a crime?  mere threats can't be a crime under the 1st amendment, right?  doesn't it have to be paired with some sort of reasonably immediate ability to carry it out or something?

It's pretty much always up to their discretion which is hilarious in itself. The only time I've ever been arrested, in my early 20s, I got hauled in and kept overnight for the words "I have started carrying". I sent it [e: in a text message] to my very recently ex-stepmother after she threatened to break into my apartment to recoup some debt she thought she was owed. I didn't threaten to harm her, nor did I even explicitly use the word gun. Nonetheless, because she was wealthy and well-connected in town, I had cops banging on my door at 3AM and putting me in cuffs for "terroristic threats".

Edited December 12 by Brian Fantana

[royiv 9771]

3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

It's pretty much always up to their discretion which is hilarious in itself. The only time I've ever been arrested, in my early 20s, I got hauled in and kept overnight for the words "I have started carrying". I sent it [e: in a text message] to my very recently ex-stepmother after she threatened to break into my apartment to recoup some debt she thought she was owed. I didn't threaten to harm her, nor did I even explicitly use the word gun. Nonetheless, because she was wealthy and well-connected in town, I had cops banging on my door at 3AM and putting me in cuffs for "terroristic threats".

[miguelito 11498]

40 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

It's pretty much always up to their discretion which is hilarious in itself. The only time I've ever been arrested, in my early 20s, I got hauled in and kept overnight for the words "I have started carrying". I sent it [e: in a text message] to my very recently ex-stepmother after she threatened to break into my apartment to recoup some debt she thought she was owed. I didn't threaten to harm her, nor did I even explicitly use the word gun. Nonetheless, because she was wealthy and well-connected in town, I had cops banging on my door at 3AM and putting me in cuffs for "terroristic threats".

You should have gone with "BTW, I'm packing."

It allows for a defense of non-threatening sexual overtones.

[The Dog 44853]

[Beau Vine 55859]

 

[Sawbonz 28184]

9 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

It was Merck that got sued over a faulty drug, but in the discovery this exact statement was made.  I want to say it was Vioxx?  Where they knew early on it was going to mess people up, but the profits from the drug would outweigh the penalties.  They ran with it, tens of thousands of people died, they got sued, but yes, the profits did in fact outweigh the lawsuit amounts.  

 

Vioxx was a great drug for the appropriate patient. It was equivalent or superior to morphine for acute pain and great for inflammation 

 

It wasn’t appropriate for people with certain risk factors wrt cardiovascular disease. Merck had trials that indicated it might be dangerous for such patients but nothing definitive so they tried to hide it. Once it was used widely these risks became clear. They killed tens of thousands but also deprived millions of a safe and effective pain relief option. 

[miguelito 11498]

9 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

fewer

[HeHateMe 916]

6 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

how on earth is that a crime?  mere threats can't be a crime under the 1st amendment, right?  doesn't it have to be paired with some sort of reasonably immediate ability to carry it out or something?

When I did my stretch (24 hrs) in the pen (Scottsdale Via Linda Jail), my cellmate was in for telling the girl from the bank, who called to inform him he was being foreclosed on, that he was going to drive down there and kill her.  He got 48 hrs.  He’s not on the Christmas card list.

[Captain Ron 13125]

19 hours ago, texasdago said:

Would you believe a family of four in Texas can ski in France for the same or less than a family of four in Texas can ski in Breckenridge or Park City or most major ski towns?

No

[BabaYaga 15621]

14 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Vioxx was a great drug for the appropriate patient. It was equivalent or superior to morphine for acute pain and great for inflammation 

 

It wasn’t appropriate for people with certain risk factors wrt cardiovascular disease. Merck had trials that indicated it might be dangerous for such patients but nothing definitive so they tried to hide it. Once it was used widely these risks became clear. They killed tens of thousands but also deprived millions of a safe and effective pain relief option. 

Pretty sure I'd take acute pain and inflammation over death.  I kid, but what was so damning was they they knew pretty quickly how dangerous it was, but they offset this obvious moral hazard with how insanely profitable it was as well, and then were stupid enough to put that down on paper.

[Bevo 13870]

27 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Would you believe a family of four in Texas can ski in France for the same or less than a family of four in Texas can ski in Breckenridge or Park City or most major ski towns?

 

So the US ski basin CEOs are next on the list?

[BabaYaga 15621]

Pretty much sums it all up

[Captain Ron 13125]

19 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

The greater problem here is that capitalism has run amok. It has created a massive wealth divide in this country that is only getting worse and creates countless problems that disrupt and destabilize society. We can’t even have fair elections because Elon will threaten to primary anyone who threatens his fragile ego.

The specific problem here is that capitalism has invaded healthcare. It’s impossible to ethically provide healthcare to the masses when you have a few multi-billion dollar companies who get to decide what degree of care is provided, and those companies are driven by profits and a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders, as well as the greed of their own executives.

Brian Thompson and Luigi Mangione are just symptoms of the system America has developed over decades. It’s less surprising that it happened and more surprising that it doesn’t happen more often. I don’t know what the fix is. There probably isn’t one. Maybe these are the problems that eventually reach a tipping point and result in a social uprising.

I’m not happy about any murders but I’ll save my tears for school shooting victims and let other people worry about CEOs.

 

We've gone from "Too big to fail" to "Too big to care about any sort of monetary punishment the government can levy"

Corporations have been putting the boot to the little man for decades now. People are starting to get pissed and fight back.

 

 

18 hours ago, crash_davis said:

LOL. People are FAFO'ing. It'll be interesting the next time it's not an idle threat. I almost feel bad for her. Her pic says, "I can't even comprehend the ways that I fucked up!"

 

https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/lakeland-woman-threatens-insurance-company-says-delay-deny-depose-police/

LAKELAND, Fla. (WFLA) — A Lakeland woman was charged Tuesday after police said she ended a call to an insurance company with the words, “Delay, Deny, Depose.”

In an arrest affidavit, the Lakeland Police Department said officers were contacted by the FBI on Tuesday, Dec. 10 regarding an alleged threat made over the phone.

Briana Boston, 42, had reportedly placed a call to BlueCross BlueShield regarding recent medical insurance claims she was denied. The entire phone call was recorded, according to the affidavit.

Near the end of the call, investigators said Boston could be heard stating, “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.” The first three words are similar to those written on the ammunition that a gunman used in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City last week.

 

Police made contact with Boston at her home in Lakeland, where she reportedly admitted to using those words during the call, telling detectives that “healthcare companies played games and deserved karma from the world because they are evil.”

Boston reportedly told detectives she used the phrase “because it’s what is in the news right now,” and that she had learned of the phrase due to the UnitedHealthcare homicide.

However, Boston added that she does not own any firearms and “was not a danger to anyone,” police said.

 

 

17 hours ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

how on earth is that a crime?  mere threats can't be a crime under the 1st amendment, right?  doesn't it have to be paired with some sort of reasonably immediate ability to carry it out or something?

 

This. She's not making a threat, she is reiterating the fucking playbook of the industry, which is the title of a book. This is just another way of how the corporations use our government entities to keep the man down.

 

 

 

 

[texasdago 7766]

1 hour ago, Bevo said:

 

So the US ski basin CEOs are next on the list?

Only if you buy your Epic Pass before December 6th when rates go up!!!

[shakahorn 1656]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

 

So the US ski basin CEOs are next on the list?

I know your comment is in jest, but the only (AFAIK) publicly traded ski resort, Vail Resorts, reports net income in the low hundred millions by providing entirely optional recreational activities.  UNH reports net income of around 20 billion on providing (or not) healthcare insurance.

Edited December 13 by shakahorn

[Deej 77803]

[Fudge Nuggets 19453]

11 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

People are starting to get pissed and fight back.

One person got pissed and fought back.

[PRONG HORN 3219]

 

 

Diddy and Mario lawyers are married.

 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

On 12/12/2024 at 2:12 PM, crash_davis said:

LOL. People are FAFO'ing. It'll be interesting the next time it's not an idle threat. I almost feel bad for her. Her pic says, "I can't even comprehend the ways that I fucked up!"

 

https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/lakeland-woman-threatens-insurance-company-says-delay-deny-depose-police/

LAKELAND, Fla. (WFLA) — A Lakeland woman was charged Tuesday after police said she ended a call to an insurance company with the words, “”

In an arrest affidavit, the Lakeland Police Department said officers were contacted by the FBI on Tuesday, Dec. 10 regarding an alleged threat made over the phone.

Briana Boston, 42, had reportedly placed a call to BlueCross BlueShield regarding recent medical insurance claims she was denied. The entire phone call was recorded, according to the affidavit.

Near the end of the call, investigators said Boston could be heard stating, “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.” The first three words are similar to those written on the ammunition that a gunman used in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City last week.

 

Police made contact with Boston at her home in Lakeland, where she reportedly admitted to using those words during the call, telling detectives that “healthcare companies played games and deserved karma from the world because they are evil.”

Boston reportedly told detectives she used the phrase “because it’s what is in the news right now,” and that she had learned of the phrase due to the UnitedHealthcare homicide.

However, Boston added that she does not own any firearms and “was not a danger to anyone,” police said.

 

you are such a brown shirt 

Delay, Deny, Depose.

Edited December 15 by FORTY NINE TO ZERO
let it be known, i don't wish harm on anyone. delay, deny, depose is a nonviolent political statement

[Brian Fantana 6862]

7 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Diddy and Mario lawyers are married.

 

 

Who fuckin cares

[Pancho 46253]

7 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Diddy and Mario lawyers are married.

 

 

Waiting for the point or purpose of this like…

[Bevo 13870]

The point is that an all attorney family is making bank for the good of mankind.

[randomhorn 2171]

8 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

Diddy and Mario lawyers are married.

Even lawyers are allowed to be married 

[Brian Fantana 6862]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

Waiting for the point or purpose of this like…

I'm sure he'll come up with something around 8am Moscow time.

[RDCanecutter 26869]

10 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Diddy and Mario lawyers are married.

 

I don't think there's enough money in the world to pay the one who looks like he goes dumpster-diving.

[Fudge Nuggets 19453]

 

[Ted Lange 16406]

 

[Incredulity 11874]

Completely tone deaf

 

[royiv 9771]

8 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

Telling CEOs we will give you special protection instead of telling them to stop being assholes that require special protection is certainly an interesting strategy.

[Brisketexan 106873]

36 minutes ago, royiv said:

Telling CEOs we will give you special protection instead of telling them to stop being assholes that require special protection is certainly an interesting strategy.

It is the most American thing America ever Americad.

Well....okay....it's up there with the Fugitive Slave Act, but still.

[Ted Lange 16406]

[RDCanecutter 26869]

1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

 

What's the hotline number for when you get fucked over by your insurance company?

Or maybe the state already regulates against shitty compan-WAHAHAHAAAHAHAA

[tx 3 putt 78666]

 

[chainsaw 10279]

and the steroids aren't in-network either

[Captainant 28505]

 

[Guadaloopy 11128]

I wish we could all be honest about how health care is just a hard fucking problem to tackle rather than saying that a particular system is completely broken while another system has got its shit in one sock.

Despite general displeasure with the US healthcare system, 71% of Americans are happy with the quality of their personal care.

Despite general support of the UK's NHS, only 24% of UK public are satisfied with the care provided by NHS, with 71% saying the number one dissatisfier is wait times for care.

 

The US healthcare system is expensive and by some measures less effective* than other country's systems, but no other country's system comes close to producing the level of consistent investment and advancement in medical innovation/technology seen in the US system.

All systems have trade-offs, and anyone telling you otherwise is only trying to win an election.

 

*Poor health outcomes in the US are more attributable to lifestyle choices (diet, transportation, gun culture) than the quality of care provided by the system 

 

 

[Ted Lange 16406]

Cult

[chainsaw 10279]

6 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Despite general displeasure with the US healthcare system, 71% of Americans are happy with the quality of their personal care.

Despite general support of the UK's NHS, only 24% of UK public are satisfied with the care provided by NHS, with 71% saying the number one dissatisfier is wait times for care.

Despite general disrespect for the Roadrunners among college football fans, 71% of UTSA fans are satisfied with 9-3 record and a trip to the Alamo Bowl.

Despite general respect for the Longhorns among college football fans, 24% of Texas fans are satisfied with a 9-3 record and a trip to the Alamo Bowl.

[Foosters 18267]

9 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

I wish we could all be honest about how health care is just a hard fucking problem to tackle rather than saying that a particular system is completely broken while another system has got its shit in one sock.

Despite general displeasure with the US healthcare system, 71% of Americans are happy with the quality of their personal care.

Despite general support of the UK's NHS, only 24% of UK public are satisfied with the care provided by NHS, with 71% saying the number one dissatisfier is wait times for care.

 

The US healthcare system is expensive and by some measures less effective* than other country's systems, but no other country's system comes close to producing the level of consistent investment and advancement in medical innovation/technology seen in the US system.

All systems have trade-offs, and anyone telling you otherwise is only trying to win an election.

 

*Poor health outcomes in the US are more attributable to lifestyle choices (diet, transportation, gun culture) than the quality of care provided by the system 

 

 

this post is so disingenuous it honestly should be negged. 

From your own link:

Quote

As has been the case throughout the 24-year trend, Americans rate healthcare coverage in the U.S. even more negatively than they rate quality. Just 28% say coverage is excellent or good, four points lower than the average since 2001 and well below the 41% high point in 2012.

why not use that to compare to the "24% satisfaction rate with the state of the NHS?"

Instead, you've chosen a totally different data point (coincidentally the ONLY point in the article that you linked that is favorable to the current system) and compared it to that 24% number. 

What's percentage of the UK public is satisfied with their own personal level of care? If you don't have that number, why bother comparing apples to oranges?

Also, about that dissatisfaction:

Quote

In October 2010, then chancellor George Osborne announced the biggest package of cuts since the Second World War, totalling £81bn. Speaking at the time, he justified austerity as necessary to put public services “on a sustainable footing”. 

Although the NHS was spared from this first round of cuts, its funding nevertheless fell significantly. The health service received just 0.1% real-terms increases to its funding each year until 2015 – far short of the 4% real-terms rises it had averaged annually since it was established and the 6% it averaged under the previous Labour government. 

At the time, the King’s Trust health think tank said the NHS was facing the “biggest financial challenge in its history” and warned that the 0.1% settlement would “not be enough to meet increasing cost pressures or cope with increasing demand for services from an ageing population”.

From 2016 onwards, the Conservative government increased the NHS budget by 1.6% a year. In 2018, then prime minister Theresa May announced that the NHS would receive an average 3.4% increase in its budget each year until 2023, as a “birthday present” to mark the 70th birthday of the NHS. But by then, the gap between the health service’s budget and what it would have had if the average 4% increase had been maintained since 2010, had grown to £42.2bn, according to analysis by the British Medical Association. 

Boris Johnson announced a further uplift in 2021, setting real-terms annual spending increases at 3.9% a year until 2025. By now, the funding gap stood at £50bn. Although the move put funding increases back in line with the historical average, the “new plans allow for little or no long-term additional costs as a result of the pandemic”, according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies.

Between 2009-10 and 2019-20, NHS spending had grown at an average real-terms rate of 1.6% per year – lower than any previous decade in NHS history. 

“You can see the cumulative impact of that when you [compare] England to comparable countries,” said John Lister, a long-time health campaigner and co-author of ‘NHS under siege’.

“We now have fewer beds per head, fewer doctors per head, fewer nurses per head and we’ve got a £10bn-plus backlog of maintenance for hospitals.”

Take a look at this chart. Probably a coincidence that confidence has plummeted after the government slashed spending resulting in a 50B spending gap.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/696342/public-satisfaction-with-the-nhs-united-kingdom-uk/" 

TLDR: Tale as old as time. Conservatives slash spending, break the government service, and then point to that failure as proof that the system doesn't work.