CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

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So many dudes on this site would benefit from a good pegging. Thankfully, I am not the woman for that job, but y'all should really try to find one.

[Iceman 2978]

and Now This!!!

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So many dudes on this site would benefit from a good pegging. Thankfully, I am not the woman for that job, but y'all should really try to find one.

Not even a revenge pegging?

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Luigi Mangione Prosecutors Have a Jury Problem: 'So Much Sympathy'

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https://www.newsweek.com/four-ten-young-people-brian-thompson-murder-acceptable-poll-2002443

[Brisketexan 106862]

4 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

https://www.newsweek.com/four-ten-young-people-brian-thompson-murder-acceptable-poll-2002443

Yep.  Right or wrong....those numbers are REAL.

A healthy society would examine why 40% of young people are okay with this, and PERHAPS realize that we should fix some truly broken social systems.

Fortunately, we're not a healthy society, so what we'll do is increase security for CEOs and give them their own special, reserved 911 system to protect only them.  Because otherwise, nothing is wrong...

[Gatorubet 30693]

10 hours ago, safe sex said:

So many dudes on this site would benefit from a good pegging. Thankfully, I am not the woman for that job, but y'all should really try to find one.

..”

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10 hours ago, safe sex said:

So many dudes on this site would benefit from a good pegging. Thankfully, I am not the woman for that job, but y'all should really try to find one.

lulz, sometimes you don't click the name of the thread so that it takes you to the last thing you have read but instead, just click the last page. and sometimes when you click the last page, the first post of the page does not make a ton of contextual sense with the thread...particularly on here where thread hijacks are a sport.

but then sometimes you click on the last page of a thread undoubtedly weighing the impossible tolerance of murder as a means of change with the necessity of change being so dire that drastic measures are necessary to get people's attention and you get this as the first post of the page.

fucking love this place.

[HenryJames 67304]

28 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Luigi Mangione Prosecutors Have a Jury Problem: 'So Much Sympathy'

[Redneck Mutha 8174]

On 12/18/2024 at 9:17 AM, Guadaloopy said:

My point was that the relatively poor numbers for US life expectancy and health outcomes as compared to other countries have more to do with lifestyle choices than the quality and quantity of care provided by our healthcare system.

I think cost and access are far greater drivers of our poor numbers, but agree that lifestyle choices certainly impact them. 

That said, I think two of the biggest factors in poor lifestyle choices are lack of education and availability/cost of mental health care, specifically to curb addiction issues (food/drugs/alcohol). And those issues pretty much go back to cost and access.

[Brisketexan 106862]

13 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

I think cost and access are far greater drivers of our poor numbers, but agree that lifestyle choices certainly impact them. 

That said, I think two of the biggest factors in poor lifestyle choices are lack of education and availability/cost of mental health care, specifically to curb addiction issues (food/drugs/alcohol). And those issues pretty much go back to cost and access.

If you attribute our healthcare outcomes exclusively or almost exclusively to "lifestyle choices," then you're talking about the nature of our character.

What you're saying is that the US has worse healthcare outcomes because Americans are of lesser character than the people of literally every other developed nation on earth.  And, I mean.....that may be true, I wish I could argue against that conclusion.  But it's a silly conclusion nonetheless.

It's a complex system, with complex factors.  And yes.....lack of education, availability/cost of mental health care, availability/cost of overall health care, poorly designed supplemental food programs/aid, massive wealth inequality and significant poverty, a system that subsidizes and floods the market with terrible food choices, etc. etc., are pretty important f'n factors.  Compare those systems with our peer nations, and we look really shitty.

The reasons that we have shitty health outcomes at a massively higher price are a lot bigger than "Americans are bad."  And that's a lazy, irresponsible answer anyway.  Because it absolves all of us of any responsibility -- American person X is unhealthy?  Well, that person makes bad choices, fuck them.  It absolves me of any role as a member of a society that has designed a system that is incredibly effective at delivering bad food options and the like, and incredibly ineffective at delivering basic physical and mental healthcare.  I can and should demand better of the system that I am a voting member of.  

Naaah, let's just shovel all the blame on poor people living in food deserts and shit, and skip down the road, blissfully obligated to do NOTHING to improve our systems.  THAT is the American way!

Edited Thursday at 03:59 PM by Brisketexan

[Vegas64 711]

So, getting back on topic, why did Luigi agreed to be extradited to NYC today after fighting it for a week?

[Guadaloopy 11128]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

If you attribute our healthcare outcomes exclusively or almost exclusively to "lifestyle choices," then you're talking about the nature of our character.

What you're saying is that the US has worse healthcare outcomes because Americans are of lesser character than the people of literally every other developed nation on earth.  And, I mean.....that may be true, I wish I could argue against that conclusion.  But it's a silly conclusion nonetheless.

It's a complex system, with complex factors.  And yes.....lack of education, availability/cost of mental health care, availability/cost of overall health care, poorly designed supplemental food programs/aid, massive wealth inequality and significant poverty, a system that subsidizes and floods the market with terrible food choices, etc. etc., are pretty important f'n factors.

The reasons that we have shitty health outcomes at a massively higher price are a lot bigger than "Americans are bad."  And that's a lazy, irresponsible answer anyway.  Because it absolves all of us of any responsibility -- American person X is unhealthy?  Well, that person makes bad choices, fuck them.  It absolves me of any role as a member of a society that has designed a system that is incredibly effective at delivering bad food options and the like, and incredibly ineffective at delivering basic physical and mental healthcare.  I can and should demand better of the system that I am a voting member of.  

Naaah, let's just shovel all the blame on poor people living in food deserts and shit, and skip down the road, blissfully obligated to do NOTHING to improve our systems.  THAT is the American way!

Lifestyle choices are not limited to food choices or drug and alcohol use.  They are not necessarily a judgment on "character."  The fact that we are an automobile society with limited public transportation means that traffic deaths contribute significantly to our lower life expectancy.  The fact that we are a gun culture with the attendant homicides, suicides, and accidental deaths brings our life expectancy down - could be argued that this speaks to character.  

[Brisketexan 106862]

10 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Lifestyle choices are not limited to food choices or drug and alcohol use.  They are not necessarily a judgment on "character."  The fact that we are an automobile society with limited public transportation means that traffic deaths contribute significantly to our lower life expectancy.  The fact that we are a gun culture with the attendant homicides, suicides, and accidental deaths brings our life expectancy down - could be argued that this speaks to character.  

You are speaking to a collective character, not an individual one.

In other words....you're speaking to society as a whole.  An individual in Texas, practically speaking, does not have a meaningful personal choice of whether or not to participate in "automobile society."  If they want to have meaningful options for earning a decent wage, they pretty much need to drive.   An individual in Texas doesn't have a meaningful personal choice of whether or not to be surrounded by people with guns -- he just is.

Which gets us back to the choices we've made about healthcare, as a society.  We should change our mind/path.  But we can't.  Because anything BUT a system that maximizes profit-taking and executive compensation at the expense of providing care is ZOMG SOCIALISM.  So not only do we not improve, we double-down.

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1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

So, getting back on topic, why did Luigi agreed to be extradited to NYC today after fighting it for a week?

Because New York has outlawed pegging as a form of punishment.

[SimonBolivar 11062]

1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

The fact that we are an automobile society with limited public transportation means that traffic deaths contribute significantly to our lower life expectancy. 

How much of an impact on the lower life expectancy can something that causes 1% of total deaths really have? Even when accounting for those dying in auto accidents are much younger than those that typically die. 

21 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Because New York has outlawed pegging as a form of punishment.

Edited Thursday at 05:49 PM by SimonBolivar

['stache 22130]

4 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

How much of an impact on the lower life expectancy can something that causes 1% of total deaths really have? Even when accounting for those dying in auto accidents are much younger than those that typically die. 

Haha, I forgot about that scene. Seinfeld pulled a Simpsons predicting the future.

[chainsaw 10261]

The pundits are mad that the "Average American" hates Brian Thompson the way the pundits wish the "Average American" would hate immigrants.

I would even go so far as to say that if Trump's anti-immigration platform was switched to an anti-CEO platform he would have won 500 electoral votes.

[Chad Fuck 18130]

The pundits are mad that the "Average American" hates Brian Thompson the way the pundits wish the "Average American" would hate immigrants.
I would even go so far as to say that if Trump's anti-immigration platform was switched to an anti-CEO platform he would have won 500 electoral votes.

Hmm maybe there’s something to that…

[Captainant 28480]

31 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

The pundits are mad that the "Average American" hates Brian Thompson the way the pundits wish the "Average American" would hate immigrants.

I would even go so far as to say that if Trump's anti-immigration platform was switched to an anti-CEO platform he would have won 500 electoral votes.

Man, "The Purge" series of films has a ringer of a movie premise just dangling in front of them...

[Pato del Muerto 53420]

2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Because New York has outlawed pegging as a form of punishment.

Still allowed as a form of police interrogation though I’m sure. 

[Ted Lange 16403]

 

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2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

 

They worried that a gaggle of horny young women, MILFs and gay dudes are going to try to set him free. 

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That is fucking pathetic lmao

Eat the rich

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NYPD's been watching too much The Joker. They're not transporting Arthur Fleck. 

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3 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

 

cosplay

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21 hours ago, safe sex said:

So many dudes on this site would benefit from a good pegging. Thankfully, I am not the woman for that job, but y'all should really try to find one.

I have the weirdest boner right now. 

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10 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

If you attribute our healthcare outcomes exclusively or almost exclusively to "lifestyle choices," then you're talking about the nature of our character.

What you're saying is that the US has worse healthcare outcomes because Americans are of lesser character than the people of literally every other developed nation on earth.  And, I mean.....that may be true, I wish I could argue against that conclusion.  But it's a silly conclusion nonetheless.

It's a complex system, with complex factors.  And yes.....lack of education, availability/cost of mental health care, availability/cost of overall health care, poorly designed supplemental food programs/aid, massive wealth inequality and significant poverty, a system that subsidizes and floods the market with terrible food choices, etc. etc., are pretty important f'n factors.  Compare those systems with our peer nations, and we look really shitty.

The reasons that we have shitty health outcomes at a massively higher price are a lot bigger than "Americans are bad."  And that's a lazy, irresponsible answer anyway.  Because it absolves all of us of any responsibility -- American person X is unhealthy?  Well, that person makes bad choices, fuck them.  It absolves me of any role as a member of a society that has designed a system that is incredibly effective at delivering bad food options and the like, and incredibly ineffective at delivering basic physical and mental healthcare.  I can and should demand better of the system that I am a voting member of.  

Naaah, let's just shovel all the blame on poor people living in food deserts and shit, and skip down the road, blissfully obligated to do NOTHING to improve our systems.  THAT is the American way!

I would like to see a study that excludes beginning of life and end of life care and see how we rate. Those are areas where we are, rightly or wrongly, likely spending orders of magnitude more than comparable societies

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Most of my life I've been told that the Second Amendment exists so that private citizens can resist oppression.  When a private citizen exercises his Second Amendment right to resist oppression by a millionaire who made his millions by refusing treatment for thousands of people, the folks who originally told me that lose their fucking minds.  I guess that they didn't mean that kind of oppression.

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On 12/19/2024 at 2:43 PM, Ted Lange said:

 

Hopefully they brought enough guys

[randomhorn 2151]

16 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Most of my life I've been told that the Second Amendment exists so that private citizens can resist oppression.  When a private citizen exercises his Second Amendment right to resist oppression by a millionaire who made his millions by refusing treatment for thousands of people, the folks who originally told me that lose their fucking minds.  I guess that they didn't mean that kind of oppression.

Same as it ever was 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

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