CEO of UHG Shot and Killed in NYC - WTF is wrong with you New York

[BlueGreySky 1047]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I’m sure the system ran up a nice bill during life saving measures that they will be able to deny due to failure to save his life. 

Pre-existing condition when he arrived - bullet holes in his head.

[Bill Brasky 1583]

8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Looks like a 100% targeted killing.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/nyregion/brian-thompson-uhc-ceo-shot

Live Updates: Police Hunt for Gunman After UnitedHealthcare C.E.O. Killed in Midtown Manhattan

The executive, Brian Thompson, was killed in what the police described as a “brazen targeted attack” outside a hotel where the company was holding an investor meeting. 

thoughts and deductibles 

[UpperWestside 6240]

4 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I was there two weeks ago and saw an ECU Pirates bus parked in front of the hotel. Logically it's pretty easy to see that it was Las Vegas Raiders owner Mike Davis that was the culprit.

1.)ECU football was led by Mike Houston until he was fired a few weeks back.

2.) Before he coached ECU and James Madison, Houston was the head coach of The Citadel

3.) The current HC of The Citadel is Maurice Drayton who was the assistant special teams coach of the Las Vegas Raiders in 2022 AS WELL AS an assistant under Mike Houston at The Citadel in 2014-2015.

 

Look at this fuck, obviously he did it.


 

 I've never been more certain of anything in my life!

I checked and he was out in the California desert getting his 500 dollar chili bowl haircut today so he’s off the board!

[Pato del Muerto 53044]

A person could use a ceiling fan on themselves and end up with a better haircut. 

[ABSR 5333]

2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

90% chance its personal(money, sex, ....)

5% its random

5% its job related

Sad thing to happen regardless, but my money is on he was having an affair/relationship with someone who was married and husband or jilted lover is somehow the cause.

[Chad Fuck 17960]

2 minutes ago, ABSR said:

Sad thing to happen regardless, but my money is on he was having an affair/relationship with someone who was married and husband or jilted lover is somehow the cause.

How is this even a thing when we know UHC fucks over millions of Americans each day, day in and day out?

Count me on team "someone shooter loved got denied coverage."  

Frankly, I'm surprised its taken this long.

[Brian Fantana 6765]

Hope he died in agony. Rest in piss, fuckstick.

[usmc0331horn 973]

I hope his hospital stay and ambulance ride bankrupts his family.

[Helobious 9528]

Police saying video showed that suspect approached victim from behind and shot him in the back. Gun appeared to jam, suspect cleared it and fired several more rounds at victim and then fled. No attempt made to rob victim or take any belongings. 

[Brisketexan 105967]

It seems that there is little sympathy for someone who reaped enormous profits from causing other people tremendous pain and suffering.

Huh.  Surprising.

When you build an enterprise that 1) is depended on by most everyone for the most basic/essential of things: your health and life, but 2) the enterprise is solely about making profits at the expense of the thing people depend on it for....people don't like it.  That comes as a big surprise.

But I'll still go with there being a higher chance that this is entirely personal -- banging someone's wife, cheated a specific person on a business deal, etc.

[royiv 9503]

Just now, usmc0331horn said:

I hope his hospital stay and ambulance ride bankrupts his family.

He made $10 million per year building shareholder value. His family will be fine.

[HornOnTheBayou 9007]

Stolen from bluesky:

Live your life so that when you’re taken out in a hit on a public street thousands of people online don’t post the Alonzo Mourning head nod gif. 

[Wally Fairway 5617]

1 hour ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

At least the death was quick with no medical bankruptcy preceding it as many of their customers experienced. Still, murder probably isn’t the most effective way to change a fucked for profit healthcare system.

well in this version of the matrix it looks like we might just get to find out

[Hank Scorpio 17870]

A fun United story: had a client a few years ago with some kind of rare leukemia (which had nothing to do with the case we were handling). He finds out that there’s a new  treatment that is about to be approved but is available and his doctors got him on the list. It also costs like $500,000 and of course United denies the claim. Since we were already representing him we agreed to handle the denial appeal which we had to do in arbitration. 3 arbitrators, we pick one, United picks one, and one we agree upon. We’re told that United picked the same hack arbitrator they always pick so we assume we’re already in the hole. Arbitration lasts a couple of days, United has no defense other than “fuck this guy he’s dead already and we don’t wanna pay.”  Arbitrators deliberate for maybe 15 minutes, come back in, and United’s chosen arbitrator proceeds to chew out United (or rather their lawyers) for denying the claim and that every person who touched this claim at United should be ashamed and gave United 48 hours to approve the claim. Client got the treatment and is doing just fine now. Hooray insurance companies! 

[Al Czervik 1255]

30 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said:

thoughts and deductibles 

One should focus on the Out Of Pocket Maximum rather than deductibles in these situations. That ER will get you there quickly. 

[Beau Vine 55323]

 

[Pato del Muerto 53044]

18 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

A fun United story: had a client a few years ago with some kind of rare leukemia (which had nothing to do with the case we were handling). He finds out that there’s a new  treatment that is about to be approved but is available and his doctors got him on the list. It also costs like $500,000 and of course United denies the claim. Since we were already representing him we agreed to handle the denial appeal which we had to do in arbitration. 3 arbitrators, we pick one, United picks one, and one we agree upon. We’re told that United picked the same hack arbitrator they always pick so we assume we’re already in the hole. Arbitration lasts a couple of days, United has no defense other than “fuck this guy he’s dead already and we don’t wanna pay.”  Arbitrators deliberate for maybe 15 minutes, come back in, and United’s chosen arbitrator proceeds to chew out United (or rather their lawyers) for denying the claim and that every person who touched this claim at United should be ashamed and gave United 48 hours to approve the claim. Client got the treatment and is doing just fine now. Hooray insurance companies! 

The system works!

[twosheds 376]

Did you get prior authorization?

Can’t get prior authorization unless it’s a referral from your PCP

[Clintonaldo 2589]

Other than that, how was his trip in Manhattan?

[SurlyGator 928]

I follow @DGlaucomflecken on socials for medical humor, and he regularly trashes insurance companies in general, and UHC specifically.  He's an ophthalmologist that survived a sudden cardiac arrest, and afterwards his insurance company denied charges from the intensivist who they claimed was out of network, even though the hospital was in network.  Not like he had a choice which intensivist treated him when he was unconscious.  He proceeded to crucify them on social media.

Not sure he has the Surly brand of dark humor to address this development specifically, though. 

[chainsaw 10137]

11 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

[Brian Fantana 6765]

13 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Looks like he might have been using one of these or similar:

https://bt-usa.com/products/station-six-9/

Edited Wednesday at 06:59 PM by Brian Fantana

[Herpa Derpa 6190]

17 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

50 years on the planet. Married with kids. Taking in at least $10 mil a year. Top of your heap. Walking tall. And then you feel a pain in your leg and poof you're gone.

Edited Wednesday at 07:03 PM by Herpa Derpa

[locodos 5534]

3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Looks like he might have been using one of these or similar:

https://bt-usa.com/products/station-six-9/

 

Maybe, I thought he was just having trouble stove piping, but on further review he appears to be charging the weapon with each shot.  The shooter does seem to be futzing with it as he's walking up to the guy on the ground.  Also that explains why the women didn't clue in right away as to what was happening if the gun was suppressed.

[Brian Fantana 6765]

Just now, locodos said:

Maybe, I thought he was just having trouble stove piping, but on further review he appears to be charging the weapon with each shot.  The shooter does seem to be futzing with it as he's walking up to the guy on the ground.  Also that explains why the women didn't clue in right away as to what was happening if the gun was suppressed.

Yeah I thought initially he was clearing jams, but it seems pretty clear he's manually cycling that gun. I would bet money he's using one of those B&T pistols.

[Incredulity 11789]

That shooter is a cool character under pressure.   The stereotype is someone doing this out of rage would probably panic after the first jam.

 

CRAZY shit.

[texasdago 7713]

21 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Yeah, I'm not an expert but that is a professional hit.  Damn. 

[Anastasis 23568]

9 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Looks like he might have been using one of these or similar:

https://bt-usa.com/products/station-six-9/

 

Good eye.  Appears correct. 

[raw dog 4]

22 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

 

That guy looks cool, calm and collected. That, along with still not being caught in such a heavily surveilled area, makes me think this guy has experience.

But then again, he fucked up firing the gun. I don't know. 

[Incredulity 11789]

Why would someone want a manual cycled hand gun?

[Anastasis 23568]

1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

Why would someone want a manual cycled hand gun?

In this situation, a manually cycled suppressed 9mm with subsonic rounds would be extremely quiet.  

[SimonBolivar 10970]

2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Why would someone want a manual cycled hand gun?

For the art of it.

[locodos 5534]

3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Why would someone want a manual cycled hand gun?

It's a lot more quit with a suppressor.  Gas(noise) not escaping out the breech.  It all has to go thought the suppressor.

Edited Wednesday at 07:13 PM by locodos

[Brian Fantana 6765]

Just now, Incredulity said:

Why would someone want a manual cycled hand gun?

They're dedicated, bolt-action silenced pistols. The semi-auto mechanism is omitted on purpose to decrease weight and noise.

They're widely used in Europe by rural farmers/veterinarians to put animals down quietly, especially in places where semi-automatic weapons are restricted or illegal.

[UnivTex34 1764]

I have a buddy with a suppressed P22, that when firing subsonic ammo it doesn't cycle the action, so I assumed that was what he was using. It's quieter than a pellet gun. But the single action makes sense as well for all the reasons mentioned.

Edited Wednesday at 07:23 PM by UnivTex34

[Anastasis 23568]

It's a $2300 gun and subject to ATF approval to purchase. Assuming he didn't get it off the black market (unlikely imo), we're talking a few months on the waitlist and jumping through the ATF hoops. It is probably a relatively easy purchase to trace. Can't imagine there are a lot of these in circulation, niche gun, limited imports.  

[Royalfan5 2381]

I hope that if I'm ever murdered, I hope its in a way like this that brings so many people so much joy. 

[Helobious 9528]

13 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Yeah, I'm not an expert but that is a professional hit.  Damn. 

He completely ignored that lady witness that was standing right there and let her run away. Would a “pro” do that? 

[Incredulity 11789]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

It's a $2300 gun and subject to ATF approval to purchase. Assuming he didn't get it off the black market (unlikely imo), we're talking a few months on the waitlist and jumping through the ATF hoops. It is probably a relatively easy purchase to trace. Can't imagine there are a lot of these in circulation, niche gun, limited imports.  

[chainsaw 10137]

Guy certainly looks the part, if the part is Person Who Knows What The Fuck He's Doing.

Big "skills that make me a nightmare for people like you" energy

[Incredulity 11789]

Just now, Helobious said:

He completely ignored that lady witness that was standing right there and let her run away. Would a “pro” do that? 

Walk out of the place very quickly, but don't run. Don't look anyone directly in the eye, but don't look away from them either.

[DDD Dad 14458]

1 hour ago, SimonBolivar said:

I was there two weeks ago and saw an ECU Pirates bus parked in front of the hotel. Logically it's pretty easy to see that it was Las Vegas Raiders owner Mike Davis that was the culprit.

1.)ECU football was led by Mike Houston until he was fired a few weeks back.

2.) Before he coached ECU and James Madison, Houston was the head coach of The Citadel

3.) The current HC of The Citadel is Maurice Drayton who was the assistant special teams coach of the Las Vegas Raiders in 2022 AS WELL AS an assistant under Mike Houston at The Citadel in 2014-2015.

 

Look at this fuck, obviously he did it.


 

 I've never been more certain of anything in my life!

[Pato del Muerto 53044]

23 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said:

50 years on the planet. Married with kids. Taking in at least $10 mil a year. Top of your heap. Walking tall. And then you feel a pain in your leg and poof you're gone.

When you make your millions by destroying the lives of millions of people, things happen. 

[Spaulding Smails 1584]

48 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

A fun United story: had a client a few years ago with some kind of rare leukemia (which had nothing to do with the case we were handling). He finds out that there’s a new  treatment that is about to be approved but is available and his doctors got him on the list. It also costs like $500,000 and of course United denies the claim. Since we were already representing him we agreed to handle the denial appeal which we had to do in arbitration. 3 arbitrators, we pick one, United picks one, and one we agree upon. We’re told that United picked the same hack arbitrator they always pick so we assume we’re already in the hole. Arbitration lasts a couple of days, United has no defense other than “fuck this guy he’s dead already and we don’t wanna pay.”  Arbitrators deliberate for maybe 15 minutes, come back in, and United’s chosen arbitrator proceeds to chew out United (or rather their lawyers) for denying the claim and that every person who touched this claim at United should be ashamed and gave United 48 hours to approve the claim. Client got the treatment and is doing just fine now. Hooray insurance companies! 

12 years ago, my son was taken by air ambulance (Life Flight) to Dell Children's Hospital.  I got the bill a few months later.  IIRC, it was about $8,500.  UHC denied my claim.  I got with my then employer, and we ran it up the flagpole.  I distinctly remember a call with their adjustor who informed me that I had "chosen an out of network provider" and that I "should have leveraged their website or called their 800 number to find an in-network resource".  Silly me!  My wife should have stopped keeping him alive during a 60 minute seizure episode to sit on hold for who knows how long to figure out the best way to proceed or at least told the attending EMTs that we needed to shop that around.

Though I'd never condone violence, that almost drove me to seek retribution.  Luckily, my employer stepped up and covered it, so crisis averted.  

[InkaUtexas 26506]

5 minutes ago, Helobious said:

He completely ignored that lady witness that was standing right there and let her run away. Would a “pro” do that? 

He is a law abiding assassin, thats why.

[Incredulity 11789]

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

He is a law abiding assassin, thats why.

he did look both ways before jaywalking at the very end.

[chainsaw 10137]

Man's got to have a code

[locodos 5534]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

It's a $2300 gun and subject to ATF approval to purchase. Assuming he didn't get it off the black market (unlikely imo), we're talking a few months on the waitlist and jumping through the ATF hoops. It is probably a relatively easy purchase to trace. Can't imagine there are a lot of these in circulation, niche gun, limited imports.  

I don't know if it's that specific gun, but the video does show SOME evidence that it's silenced.  The women not knowing what's happening, car alarms not going off all around him, and the profile of the gun.   I think it's naïve to think that a guy out for blood would make sure to go through all the red tape.  Lots and lots of gun owners and collectors flaunt the laws.  Even here, on this board, you will see folks talking about losing their guns whilst fishing.  It's not a stretch to think this guy bought gun private party to use for murder or bought/fashioned a suppressor for a different gun.  It's a wild world in gun nut land.

[After irth 1245]

40 minutes ago, SurlyGator said:

I follow @DGlaucomflecken on socials for medical humor, and he regularly trashes insurance companies in general, and UHC specifically.  He's an ophthalmologist that survived a sudden cardiac arrest, and afterwards his insurance company denied charges from the intensivist who they claimed was out of network, even though the hospital was in network.  Not like he had a choice which intensivist treated him when he was unconscious.  He proceeded to crucify them on social media.

Not sure he has the Surly brand of dark humor to address this development specifically, though. 

Caught his tour in Dallas a few weeks ago.  Very interesting people.  Had a great time.

[Captainant 28171]

11 minutes ago, Spaulding Smails said:

12 years ago, my son was taken by air ambulance (Life Flight) to Dell Children's Hospital.  I got the bill a few months later.  IIRC, it was about $8,500.  UHC denied my claim.  I got with my then employer, and we ran it up the flagpole.  I distinctly remember a call with their adjustor who informed me that I had "chosen an out of network provider" and that I "should have leveraged their website or called their 800 number to find an in-network resource".  Silly me!  My wife should have stopped keeping him alive during a 60 minute seizure episode to sit on hold for who knows how long to figure out the best way to proceed or at least told the attending EMTs that we needed to shop that around.

Though I'd never condone violence, that almost drove me to seek retribution.  Luckily, my employer stepped up and covered it, so crisis averted.  

This is the evil of the profit maximizing healthcare industry. """Customers""" do not have any sort of leverage and are often literally a captive market with nowhere else to go. UHG and their contemporaries exist for no purpose but to deny care and skim off premiums. Bunch of fucking social leeches.

Edited Wednesday at 07:39 PM by Captainant