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TrashMaster G

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1 hour ago, Xminus6 said:

Sort of there with you on the whole thing. But the money was always there for the kids and Texas *trying* to play honestly was just hamstringing us. The Aggies ‘22 class probably pissed off a lot of folks and I’m also grateful for the dudes on here who got the whole Texas NIL machine up and flattening the competition.

My joy about being in the CFP two years in a row, winning the B12 championship and playing for the SEC championship are is not dampened by the realization that the players are “in it for the money.” At some point when coaches are making 8-figure salaries and 100s of millions are being spent on facilities and being earned in merchandising, it’s only fair that the players who give the brand its value are able to benefit from it.

I, for one, am perfectly fine that we were "hamstringing" ourselves before NIL and not playing the brazen bags game. The on-field struggles sucked, but the result now is that we are going to show what happens when we jump into the game full-force and within the new rules.

Good times, my friends.

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DanTheHorn

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Welcome to the 40 young man.

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The Film Guy Network was wrong! I listened to them yesterday and they said it was between Georgia and Auburn and did not even mention Texas as a possibility. They then stated that Georgia always steps up the NIL to beat teams like Auburn.

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2 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

Welcome to the 40 young man.

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The Film Guy Network was wrong! I listened to them yesterday and they said it was between Georgia and Auburn and did not even mention Texas as a possibility. They then stated that Georgia always steps up the NIL to beat teams like Auburn.

Do they have a reaction video? 😁

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1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:


There's a cognitive dissonance I willingly create with college sports. I personally do not believe a multibillion dollar entertainment enterprise should be housed within the confines of academic institutions. In my ideal world the NCAA or a similar institution would have overly repressive powers. They would negotiate a single television contract and then evenly spread out the proceeds, the way they did prior to the 1984 Supreme Court case. There would be no NIL allowed for athletes, simply because it's impossible to truly determine legitimate NILs from pay for plays. It's not a legitimate argument that can be applied across all cases "well, I'll know it when I see it." 

But that's not the world we live in, and it's not ever going to be. In this world college sports is a multibillion dollar enterprise, and it's built in large part on the shared identification we have with our favorite schools. People talk about how the players deserve the money because they're the ones doing the work, and that's certainly true to a degree. But we've seen how college sports can attract an audience in the way professional minor leagues can't. On some level it's not the athletes, as much as we love (or hate, lol) to follow them. It really is the brand. 

And there's a symbiotic relationship. College sports builds an identity with a school long after departing the campus in a way no other vehicle provides with the same effectiveness. It brings many alumni back on a regular basis. It builds a mutual tie and brand loyalty that goes beyond just getting an education there. 

In any case, in this world if we're going to compete in a sport. I'd like for us to win. And that's exactly what we're doing. We're no longer an administration who wants to see the football team succeed so the athletic department can make more money. We truly see it as we want to make more money so we can win more games. That's an important distinction and I'm glad it finally exists. 

Why watch a junior pro team if one can watch the NFL. This billion dollar business exist not because it is "built in large part on the shared identification we have with our favorite schools" but solely because college football built it before the NFL was big and kept it going. Now it is finally fair since the student athlete gets to share in the riches, so people that hate the wild west just think it is temporary but the athletes deserved sharing all along.

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1 hour ago, DanTheHorn said:

Why watch a junior pro team if one can watch the NFL. This billion dollar business exist not because it is "built in large part on the shared identification we have with our favorite schools" but solely because college football built it before the NFL was big and kept it going. Now it is finally fair since the student athlete gets to share in the riches, so people that hate the wild west just think it is temporary but the athletes deserved sharing all along.

 

I guess. I'm not completely sure who deserves what. There's a lot of people who deserve a whole lot of things that are doing more benevolent things than playing college sports, and they're never going to get it. It's not a compelling argument for me. 

Regardless, they're getting it now, and it's not going away. It's going to get bigger. But if I had my way - which I don't and won't - college sports would have much smaller budgets, there would be a professional option in all sports, the players in college would only be paid with a scholarship and a small stipend, and anyone who was caught paying them more than that would be punished severely, SMU death penalty style. And television revenues would be spread in an egalitarian way among participants, a la NFL.

I don't understand your argument in italics. Paying players in college is not a direct competition with the professional leagues. It's a direct competition with a minor league. If the NFL developed a minor league the same way baseball has and the NBA has done, college games would still outdraw in attendance and television ratings any product they put out there because the identifications for the college teams are so much stronger. I'm not sure how that's debatable, regardless of whether college football came before the NFL or not. 

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I think this is a better use of resources than spending 3/4ths the amount on players like Sims and Mbatchou. Either way, though, it seems like we will have a good mix of development players and stars.

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“I will say that now we’ve set a precedent that if you throw a bunch of stuff money on the field table and endanger enable athletes that you’ve got a chance to get your call commitment reversed.”
 
suck it, Kirby.
Did you have google Gemini write this for you?
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Funk Doctor Spock

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4 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

I'm not a big fan of NIL. It changes the nature of college sports in irreversible ways. But in the last twenty years I've been screaming for kids to get off my lawn on the subject, I've always stated declaratively no program in the country will benefit from opening that pandora's box the way Texas will. And that was before 20 more years of Austin growth and still no professional sports team in any of the 3 major sports on the horizon. 

It didn't happen by accident, but I'm very appreciative of the Longhorn alums who got off their ass and actually did something to move NIL forward rather than being a keyboard warrior like me. 

Watching programs like Alabama, OU, Georgia, Clemson, LSU (I guess A&M? they never did anything with it, though) et al have their advantage in their willingness to provide under the table inducements to players and their families, oftentimes at unprecedented game changing levels historically, be completely annihilated through the Supreme Court eviscerating the NCAA's ability to enforce...well...just about anything, has led to a golden era in UT sports. Add in we're not going out of our way from an administrative level to put competitive obstacles in our path - or at least not as much as we used to - and it just feels like we're in the midst of seeing something really special. It can still all be screwed up with the wrong coach, but thankfully that doesn't appear to be our issue. 

For me this feels like a big fuck you to all the paying of players and their handlers to grab instate talent that otherwise would have naturally signed with Texas that happened over the past 70 years. It's an even playing field in that regard now, but like the pigs say at the end of Animal Farm, "We're all equal here. We're just a little equaler."

You should send a thank you and a holiday gift basket to Ed O'Bannon for doing this work for 15+ years. 

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I can't wait to watch Justus and I'm sure the staff is doing backflips to get a talent like this. 

But this recruiting win feels bigger than that. This announcement was in the spotlight and Texas wanted to send a very clear message to UGA and the rest of the SEC: We are not fucking around.

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1 hour ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

You should send a thank you and a holiday gift basket to Ed O'Bannon for doing this work for 15+ years. 

Did you catch the part where I'm not a big fan of NIL? Not that I consider this O'Bannon's fault. But no, no thank you or holiday gift basket from me. 

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7 hours ago, DanTheHorn said:

Welcome to the 40 young man.

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The Film Guy Network was wrong! I listened to them yesterday and they said it was between Georgia and Auburn and did not even mention Texas as a possibility. They then stated that Georgia always steps up the NIL to beat teams like Auburn.

They still don't get it. Texas is not a team like Auburn. Today was an unequivocal statement. 

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Can one of you smart fellows blend Sark’s face with Snoop’s and maybe just stick an SEC logo on Tyrese?

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9 hours ago, mwaadeeb said:

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Supercuts Terry 

Is Alan Sager still around?

7 hours ago, westexhorn said:

Kelee Ringo... who loved us

I remember loving something in that recruitment..

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43 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


This photo has clearly been photoshopped, and it's not a good job, either. Look at his neckline. Look at the white streak on the side of his neck on the right side.

 

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Or its just a bad picture from 2020 in the daylight under a tree and the black line isn't in focus because of shading. Look I have no idea why I'm defending this to you, but why do you care? This was tweeted out from the player 4 years ago, do you think he'd lie for some kind of social media clout when being pursued by Georgia at 14?

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4 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

Did you catch the part where I'm not a big fan of NIL? Not that I consider this O'Bannon's fault. But no, no thank you or holiday gift basket from me. 

I wasn't speaking just to you, just in general. Athletes should be paid. Maybe not to the extent that ridiculous amounts of millions, but a few thousand isn't bad. Some go stupidly overboard with NIL, but hey, I'm not a billionaire, so they can spend it how they please.
 

Imo, I think O'Bannon did the right thing. Yes, they're getting an education, but schools and others are benefitting from their work. You can disagree, and that's OK, but I believe he did the right thing. 

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