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2024 Big 12 Championship - Iowa State vs. Arizona State


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2 minutes ago, WBT said:

No one really thinks Boise is better than ASU do they?

The consensus computer rankings have Boise > ASU 

The only other ASU game I've seen, they eked out a win over TxSt, and I feel really confident that Boise would destroy the Bobcats....

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If they're the 12 seed(bama 11th in this scenerio) then they'd play either ND or Texas or Oregon. Penn St drops past ND if they lose.  Only Texas/Oregon/ND can be the 5 seed I would think.

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1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

The consensus computer rankings have Boise > ASU 

The only other ASU game I've seen, they eked out a win over TxSt, and I feel really confident that Boise would destroy the Bobcats....

ASU is greatly improved from when they played TxSt in September.

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10 minutes ago, Stunns38 said:


I mean, look at the HCs. This youngin doesn’t coach scared.

Meh...go watch their last possession against byu.  Maybe not scared but borderline regarded. 

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1 minute ago, TOR said:

Hard hits are not targeting. 

That's targeting. He hit a defenseless player, hard hit in the head or neck area, with an indicator of targeting (launching and lowering the head). It is an easy call by the rule. 

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That’s like everything you can’t do to a qb. Launch, crown lead, helmet hit, land on him. 
 

all just to inflict pain on an opposing player in a game that is over. 

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Just now, VirginiaLonghorn said:

That’s not targeting if you’re the Georgia S tackling Haynes King …

The only thing I'd say about that play is that it wasn't 100% clear from the angles I saw that contact was made with the crown of the helmet. If the helmet hit the ball, it wouldn't have been targeting. I think it likely was targeting, but I didn't see an angle that would confirm that. 

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That’s like everything you can’t do to a qb. Launch, crown lead, helmet hit, land on him. 

Deacon Jones wept.

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Just now, Dahobbs said:

The only thing I'd say about that play is that it wasn't 100% clear from the angles I saw that contact was made with the crown of the helmet. If the helmet hit the ball, it wouldn't have been targeting. I think it likely was targeting, but I didn't see an angle that would confirm that. 

The first thing that moved was King's head snapping violently because that's where contact was initiated. We also probably see a clear angle if they review it or if the crappy production crew ever mentioned or even noticed it. 

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4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

The consensus computer rankings have Boise > ASU 

The only other ASU game I've seen, they eked out a win over TxSt, and I feel really confident that Boise would destroy the Bobcats....

That isn't right.  Sagarin has Boise behind 8 BXII teams.

I can't get over the scores of ASU and Boise vs common opponent Wyoming

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Just now, Huckleberry said:

The first thing that moved was King's head snapping violently because that's where contact was initiated. We also probably see a clear angle if they review it or if the crappy production crew ever mentioned or even noticed it. 

That's fair. As I said, I just didn't see one. 

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

The only thing I'd say about that play is that it wasn't 100% clear from the angles I saw that contact was made with the crown of the helmet. If the helmet hit the ball, it wouldn't have been targeting. I think it likely was targeting, but I didn't see an angle that would confirm that. 

Agree there was no clear video.  But, King’s head took a sudden and violent dip into his own chest on contact.  Conclusion I drew is the Georgia safety’s helmet hit King squarely in the chin.

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Tess was creaming himself after the hit now it’s one of the most vicious hits imaginable 

In addition to winning every game of course, my Christmas wish is that we don’t get that assclown calling any of our games.
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