Atrocious Coaching

[Nueces River Rat 5739]

28 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Is there one person who was sitting on their couch who wasn’t saying hey watch out for the fake right here?

Nope.   We the extended coaching staff on Surly saw it.

[Tom Chairman 267]

Id like to think we saved stuff for the playoffs. Specifically the Manning package. 

Spoiler: We haven't.

[Hornius Emeritus 12780]

3 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

We played sideline to sideline with our runs and passes. Pure shit. Georgia is too fast for that. We needed to run right at them…like they did at us, including with their (backup) QB. 

We did run right at them. Many times. They destroyed us.

[dec3169 545]

1 hour ago, royiv said:

Getting caught flat footed on a fake when the punter is in the locker room isn’t just on the players.

I believe the punter's hands were still behind his back when the ball was snapped to the runner.  The fake punt was entirely predictable.  I told my wife they were gonna fake it and I hoped Sark knew that, well before the play.  It baffles me how none of our coaches could figure out that if Georgia's punter is injured we should at least look at the possibility there will be a fake punt.

[Roofle 310]

4 hours ago, jet black said:

Id like to think we saved stuff for the playoffs. Specifically the Manning package. 

What have you seen that would make you say that other than just hoping it to be true? I'd prepare to be disappointed. I hope I'm wrong.

[TheYoungHorn 95]

45 minutes ago, dec3169 said:

I believe the punter's hands were still behind his back when the ball was snapped to the runner.  The fake punt was entirely predictable.  I told my wife they were gonna fake it and I hoped Sark knew that, well before the play.  It baffles me how none of our coaches could figure out that if Georgia's punter is injured we should at least look at the possibility there will be a fake punt.

Odd that their two key injuries led directly to the win. 

Fake because of situation and having untested punter. 

Backup QB needs to run to get offense moving, they simplify game plan and add in more QB runs...

[Hank_Hill 19764]

1 hour ago, Roofle said:

What have you seen that would make you say that other than just hoping it to be true? I'd prepare to be disappointed. I hope I'm wrong.

Why would we have seen anything if they are saving it?

[Roofle 310]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

Why would we have seen anything if they are saving it?

[GTJ1982 435]

I just think Kirby has a different mentality.   His halftime interview said it all.  He gave a fuck if Beck was hurt and critiquing the mistake he made to close the half.  He has a certain level of intensity on the sidelines and is immersed in the game at hand. He’s still a piece of shit whiny bitch but he’s a successful one. 

Edited December 8 by GTJ1982

[staboner 5067]

7 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

This is what I don't understand.  You've got the QB Whisperer coach.  You've got a perfect 10, 5 star QB.  Receivers are great.  OL should have at least 4 make the NFL.  TE is amazing.  RB could be better, but it's not the worst.  The defense gives you the ball pretty quickly via turnovers or 3 and outs.  How is this team not wracking up points like, say, OU during the Riley years?  I'm not being facetious.  I'm truly curious.

because Sark is a mad scientist making fun play designs. 

which is not the same thing as being a good OC or playcaller. i think thats why

[LTtxfan 49909]

7 hours ago, crash_davis said:

There's a lot of shit that didn't go our way, most of it was our doing.

- Play calling was shitty when it matter.

- UGA D is fast and disciplined, which is kryptonite for some of Sarks' calls/designs

- We couldn't run worth a shit

- Golden/Bond/whoever drops that dime in the end zone in the 1st half

- Bert missed 2 field goals

- We repeatedly shot ourselves in the dick in the 1st half with dipshit penalties, some of it was the refs 

- On Barron's interception late in the 4th, if Guilbeau isn't an idiot celebrating and blocks the UGA TE, Barron scores and we win

- GAs TD drive had 2 fumbles which they recovered (luck is sometimes a bitch)

 

The team has to be pissed about this loss. I'm hoping they use the anger to roll through the playoffs.

Good stuff... yeah way too many mistakes by Texas in this game.  Need to play better in 3rd qtr, and figure out how our o-line can fucking run block better.

Too many 3rd and longs in 2nd half for Texas offense... damn inconsistent

 

Edited December 8 by LTtxfan

[Pimphand 6266]

7 hours ago, closetohumping said:

Best summary I’ve seen.  Kirby has a hard on for sark imo

He should... When Sark calls for the lateral pass which GA's speed eats alive we are at Greg Davis levels of stupid and he gets to be hailed as a genius for stopping the offensive mastermind.

Sark is a brilliant play designer but a fucking horrible play caller as head coach.

He will either cede play calling duties or we will never win a big game. Period the end

 

[closetohumping 17778]

CDC knows.  He always knows what to do

[closetohumping 17778]

9 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

My Georgia friends (not tonight) always say..... If you have a QB who can run or at least extend plays well, it will give Georgia (and most defenses) fits..... But if they don't have to stay honest on the QB, then they typically can make you one-dimensional.  While I don't necessarily agree with your summation, I do agree that it makes this version of Texas' offense with QE have very little margin for error..... Needed to play a clean game and played anything but.  QB owns some of it..... but not the lion's share.  I think the HC and OC has to wear a lot of this.

 

Last sentence.  Team loss.  Underperformance in every offensive and special teams area.  Ultimately that is on the HC.  
 

someone look up Atlanta’s performance with Sark vs shanahan. 
 

Sark is our guy.  He’s lead us out of the wilderness but some offensive tweaking may be warranted.  5 touchdowns. 10 quarters.  Some of that is on you coach.   Get an offensive consultant.  I’ll bet CDC knows

[Dignan 381]

This wasn’t on Quinn, but I’ve said this for years. In college football you have to have a qb that is a threat to hurt the other team with their legs. As SOON as Stockton started running, that changed the game. Quinn is not a threat. Arch is. Look at SMU, Clemson, Ga Tech, Bama, Aggie, Sa Carolina, Oregon, Arizona State, (should I keep going?)

Oh, and our kicker sucks. I assume Will Stone is even worse? Geez

[Horn80 6313]

8 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Is there one person who was sitting on their couch who wasn’t saying hey watch out for the fake right here?

Turning point of the game and apparently Banks was asleep at the switch.

[bschoolprof 6335]

Sark won me over last year and we are not going to get anyone better. 

But he deserves all the blame for turbo fucking the offense this year. We have the best defense we’ve had in about 20 years and we’ve paired that with a limpdick offense littered with 5 stars and easily millions in NIL money. We are undisciplined and dick step constantly. We have a head case noodle arm qb that Saban would have benched long ago. We have razzle dazzle plays that look great on sports center against bumfuck state, but can’t run a sensible high percentage play to convert 3rd and medium when the championship game is on the line. We have no reliable running game to fall back on against really good defenses. Etc etc. Yes, Bert sucks, but he only had so much stage time in this game because our offense shit itself in the red zone as it seemingly always does. 
 

If you would have told me when he was hired that our main issue with Sark in year 4 was not program building, or defense, but instead offensive ineptitude and QB management, I would have been incredulous. But he we are. We are pretty good. We are close, but also far away. 

[Reynolds Woodcock 5064]

7 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

We have razzle dazzle plays that look great on sports center against bumfuck state, but can’t run a sensible high percentage play to convert 3rd and medium when the championship game is on the line.

We literally ran a sensible high percentage play to convert a 4th and 2 with the game on the line. 

The other team has players and coaches, too.

[bschoolprof 6335]

11 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

We literally ran a sensible high percentage play to convert a 4th and 2 with the game on the line. 

The other team has players and coaches, too.

that's not 3rd and medium, and you picked one out of a myriad of issues to unsuccessfully refute.  Yeah, other teams have good coaches too.  I never said or implied otherwise. And they have been objectively better in big/championship games the last two years than Sark. As an example, go back and watch the over time playcalling yesterday for Georgia vs us.  We are wasting plays with deep passes to the end zone that QE sucks at while Georgia sticks to high percentage plays with their backup.  Bobo schooled Sark in OT.  

[skilesare 89]

12 hours ago, Wally Pryor said:

Georgia scrub backup QB thrown into a bad situation at the half. He's taking notes with 2 minutes left in the 1H, talking to his girlfriend and clueless.

Has one not watched Texas football for decades? Backup QBs with a modicum of legs is UT kryptonite.  Usually they are boomer bred but that come in other shades as well.

[Not a Sock 2362]

Quinn played well in this game and it exposed how limited of a QB he is and his regressions has caused our offense to become fundamentally flawed. Sark is  doing a good job of calling plays but he can only call the plays his offense can actually execute. Quinn has regressed hard this season and it’s caused other position groups like the receivers and o line to regress as well. Quinn can not hit a receiver running a vertical route in stride, they either have to slow down and adjust or out right stop to try catch a pass if it’s outside the numbers. This works if you have elite receivers but it removes any YAC yardage since the DB will make the tackle, and when facing elite DBs like UGA it’s a PBU or a pick like we saw. Quinn can’t scramble or hit deep shots so that’s makes shit really easy for the defense, defend the perimeter and middle and no need for a spy.  Quinn’s huge regression is him not being able to hit those intermediate passes and not reading the middle of the field especially when the defense shows something different pre and post snap.

Edited December 8 by Not a Sock

[Not a Sock 2362]

12 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

that's not 3rd and medium, and you picked one out of a myriad of issues to unsuccessfully refute.  Yeah, other teams have good coaches too.  I never said or implied otherwise. And they have been objectively better in big/championship games the last two years than Sark. As an example, go back and watch the over time playcalling yesterday for Georgia vs us.  We are wasting plays with deep passes to the end zone that QE sucks at while Georgia sticks to high percentage plays with their backup.  Bobo schooled Sark in OT.  

They couldn’t fucking run on the UGA defense, hoping Quinn could connect on a TD pass into the end zone was the only chance Texas had of scoring. Texas can’t run up the middle and the Georgia defense has shut down anything to the perimeter. 

[closetohumping 17778]

43 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Sark won me over last year and we are not going to get anyone better. 

But he deserves all the blame for turbo fucking the offense this year. We have the best defense we’ve had in about 20 years and we’ve paired that with a limpdick offense littered with 5 stars and easily millions in NIL money. We are undisciplined and dick step constantly. We have a head case noodle arm qb that Saban would have benched long ago. We have razzle dazzle plays that look great on sports center against bumfuck state, but can’t run a sensible high percentage play to convert 3rd and medium when the championship game is on the line. We have no reliable running game to fall back on against really good defenses. Etc etc. Yes, Bert sucks, but he only had so much stage time in this game because our offense shit itself in the red zone as it seemingly always does. 
 

If you would have told me when he was hired that our main issue with Sark in year 4 was not program building, or defense, but instead offensive ineptitude and QB management, I would have been incredulous. But he we are. We are pretty good. We are close, but also far away. 

Bravo.  Not even entertaining the thought of replacing sark unless he heads to the nfl.  He’s done a great job of stockpiling talent and our respective lines have never been better.  I do think that a lot of clubs aches could do well here considering the amount of cash we have laying  around  

 

but for an offensive savant, his offense has been horrible this year outside of games vs lesser opponents. 
 

his motto is “all gas no brakes” yet he slows the game down the moment we have a two score lead.  
 

he needs to simplify the offense and get an oc.  

[VaLonghorn99 358]

With all kinds of offensive genius on his side, Sark made a rudimentary mistake: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. That’s insanity. Why such dedication to Ewers … we weren’t even his first choice, it was Ohio. Getting mad now after being patient the entire season. Not blaming Quin but the coach, just for this one stubborn thing.

[TwiceHorn 31987]

11 minutes ago, VaLonghorn99 said:

With all kinds of offensive genius on his side, Sark made a rudimentary mistake: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. That’s insanity. Why such dedication to Ewers … we weren’t even his first choice, it was Ohio. Getting mad now after being patient the entire season. Not blaming Quin but the coach, just for this one stubborn thing.

This raises an interesting question.  I think Ewers didn't want to join the Tom Herman freak show, understandably.  Then after getting perhaps a dose of reality at OSU, comes home to join the new regime with a QB and offensive guru in Sark, and brought some talent with him.

So, obviously, Sark is going to take him in year two before he's got his recruiting machine rolling.

But, had Sark had a choice of 5-star qbs, is Ewers the guy he would have gone with?

[closetohumping 17778]

8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This raises an interesting question.  I think Ewers didn't want to join the Tom Herman freak show, understandably.  Then after getting perhaps a dose of reality at OSU, comes home to join the new regime with a QB and offensive guru in Sark, and brought some talent with him.

So, obviously, Sark is going to take him in year two before he's got his recruiting machine rolling.

But, had Sark had a choice of 5-star qbs, is Ewers the guy he would have gone with?

I was going to say that Sark has a type for qb.  Pocket guys but that’s not true at all.  Lacey, Bell and even Arch are mobile qbs.  
 

any doubt we’d be undefeated with Dillon Gabriel?

[TwiceHorn 31987]

Just now, closetohumping said:

I was going to say that Sark has a type for qb.  Pocket guys but that’s not true at all.  Lacey, Bell and even Arch are mobile qbs.  
 

any doubt we’d be undefeated with Dillon Gabriel?

Clearly, Sark wants a passer.   I'm not a sophisticated enough observer of offense to know whether Ewers is a square peg for Sark's round hole.

But yeah had the same thought about Gabriel.  There don't seem to be just tons of great options playing QB out there right now, most of them are pretty flawed.  Gabriel seems to stand out, but I may also still be smarting from 2023.

[Dahobbs 18190]

 

52 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

Quinn played well in this game and it exposed how limited of a QB he is and his regressions has caused our offense to become fundamentally flawed. Sark is  doing a good job of calling plays but he can only call the plays his offense can actually execute. Quinn has regressed hard this season and it’s caused other position groups like the receivers and o line to regress as well. Quinn can not hit a receiver running a vertical route in stride, they either have to slow down and adjust or out right stop to try catch a pass if it’s outside the numbers. This works if you have elite receivers but it removes any YAC yardage since the DB will make the tackle, and when facing elite DBs like UGA it’s a PBU or a pick like we saw. Quinn can’t scramble or hit deep shots so that’s makes shit really easy for the defense, defend the perimeter and middle and no need for a spy.  Quinn’s huge regression is him not being able to hit those intermediate passes and not reading the middle of the field especially when the defense shows something different pre and post snap.

Quinn actually hit deep shots this game several times. He also threw it hard at least once and the pass was dropped. RedZone offense is hard when you can't run and your receivers aren't necessarily the physical type to beat right coverage off the line. The offense really misses j whitt. A healthy bond would have helped as well. As much as it sucked not to score a TD in OT, those two passes each had a chance (and frankly we're our best chance). The biggest criticism I would have is not drawing those plays up for Golden. 

[Sawbonz 28081]

9 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

We did run right at them. Many times. They destroyed us.

With the QB?

[bschoolprof 6335]

1 hour ago, Not a Sock said:

They couldn’t fucking run on the UGA defense, hoping Quinn could connect on a TD pass into the end zone was the only chance Texas had of scoring. Texas can’t run up the middle and the Georgia defense has shut down anything to the perimeter. 

Yeah . . . that was a big part of my point.  Not having a reliable running game against good defenses, paired with a limited QB, is a recipe for a loss against good teams down the stretch at the end of the season.  We've seen that two seasons in a row.  That's completely on Sark.  

[hookem48 4808]

9 hours ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Nope.   We the extended coaching staff on Surly saw it.

I knew it, my wife knew it, my neighbors not watching the game knew it because they heard me screaming it, my dogs that I haven't seen since then knew it, but not a motherfucker on our sideline I guess.

[TwiceHorn 31987]

8 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Yeah . . . that was a big part of my point.  Not having a reliable running game against good defenses, paired with a limited QB, is a recipe for a loss against good teams down the stretch at the end of the season.  We've seen that two seasons in a row.  That's completely on Sark.  

Well, is Baxter's injury on Sark?  Clark's? Our OL run blocking seems to leave a bit to be desired, as well, but they are light years ahead of anything we've had in the past 15 years now.

Edited December 8 by TwiceHorn

[bschoolprof 6335]

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

Well, is Baxter's injury on Sark?  Clark's? Our OL run blocking seems to leave a bit to be desired, as well, but they are light years ahead of anything we've had in the past n5 years now.

Yeah, I was just going to bring this up.  Personnel wise, we have two big problems IMO: QB and RB. QB is all on Sark - it's a total goatfuck and the the most frustrating thing about this whole season for 98% of the fanbase. RB is not. Our two big backs on the roster both went down, and we really need a bigger back for inside zone to keep the middle of the field defenders honest and not so committed to the perimeter and pass coverage.  

[victory88 5755]

12 hours ago, Hornsome said:

I’m 100% on the Sark train but his play calling has been suspect especially in the second half. There needs to be some accountability.

i do think Sark needs to look in mirror and hire an OC.  Perhaps I’m wrong but I don’t think a coach has won it all being the head coach and OC (or even DC).  I am pretty confident that both Saban and Kirby would have been ready for that fake punt and telling the players.  You have to wonder if Sark was thinking about the next offensive plays and not the play at hand.  

With that said even with poor officiating, blaming the refs is the bitch move.  We got beat and I think we had the better team.

Plenty of HC in the NFL call their own plays.  We are 24-4 in two seasons with Sark calling the plays.  Maybe we should stick to what works?  You’re confusing execution of the players and play calling.  Sark isn’t calling a holding play or a false start play.  But you’re right, let’s take away an elite trait we have for our HC and hire a hot OC.  There’s a guy in aggyland that is considered a hot name.  Maybe we should hire that Chip Kelly guy who lost to Michigan and couldn’t score more than 13z. Or maybe let’s hire Garrett Riley!  He’s been killing it at Clemson.  Let’s take notes from ou and just rotate OCs, that will be great for this team!  Maybe we can make 2 back to back CFPs with a new OC!  You know, how about we hire that Georgia OC!  He’s killing it right now.  
 

We lose a conference championship game against a program that has won championships and has the best roster in college football by 3 points in OT, and this fanbase turns into Texags.  There is shit to gripe about but holy hell at the stupid fucking posts.

Edited December 8 by victory88

[Not a Sock 2362]

18 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

 

Quinn actually hit deep shots this game several times. He also threw it hard at least once and the pass was dropped. RedZone offense is hard when you can't run and your receivers aren't necessarily the physical type to beat right coverage off the line. The offense really misses j whitt. A healthy bond would have helped as well. As much as it sucked not to score a TD in OT, those two passes each had a chance (and frankly we're our best chance). The biggest criticism I would have is not drawing those plays up for Golden. 

Except Quinn still couldn’t hit golden in stride, Golden had to slow down and adjust because Quinn floated him the ball. The thing that made me want to pull my hair out last year is that Quinn didn’t hit J Whitt anywhere near enough because he didn’t make it that far into his progression and instead chucked and hoped Worthy could adjust and make the catch and after burning his defender or he chucked it up and hoped AD could come down with it.

[TwiceHorn 31987]

5 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Plenty of Have in the NFL calm their own plays.  We are 24-4 in two seasons with Sark calling the plays.  Maybe we should stick to what works?  You’re confusing execution of the players and play calling.  Sark isn’t calling a holding play or a false start play.  But you’re right, let’s take away an elite trait we have for our HC and hire a hot OC.  There’s a guy in aggyland that is considered a hot name.  Maybe we should hire that Chip Kelly guy who lost to Michigan and couldn’t score more than 13z. Or maybe let’s hire Garrett Riley!  He’s been killing it at Clemson.  Let’s take notes from ou and just rotate OCs, that will be great for this team!  Maybe we can make 2 back to back CFPs with a new OC!  You know, how about we hire that Georgia OC!  He’s killing it right now.  

Yeah, this pretty much.

It does somehow feel, though, that Sark's play calling doesn't situationally maximize what we can do well.  But, that's because they fail, often due to execution.  The key word there is "feel."

Would he be a genius if they succeeded?

Everyone is annoyed at the three "fades" to the end zone near the end of the game.  Yet, all efforts to run or pass short were getting blown up.   Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

Edited December 8 by TwiceHorn

[Dahobbs 18190]

1 minute ago, Not a Sock said:

Except Quinn still couldn’t hit golden in stride, Golden had to slow down and adjust because Quinn floated him the ball. The thing that made me want to pull my hair out last year is that Quinn didn’t hit J Whitt anywhere near enough because he didn’t make it that far into his progression and instead chucked and hoped Worthy could adjust and make the catch and after burning his defender or he chucked it up and hoped AD could come down with it.

Those deep shots are hard to hit even in the NFL. Quinn did well enough on them and much better than he has all season. It is fucking ridiculous to bitch about him not being absolutely perfect on the deep ball when it still gets long completions and PI. He has his limitations, but we have far greater problems on offense when matching up with Georgia. 

[DFW Horn 6637]

8 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

Yeah, I was just going to bring this up.  Personnel wise, we have two big problems IMO: QB and RB. QB is all on Sark - it's a total goatfuck and the the most frustrating thing about this whole season for 98% of the fanbase. RB is not. Our two big backs on the roster both went down, and we really need a bigger back for inside zone to keep the middle of the field defenders honest and not so committed to the perimeter and pass coverage.  

Is Gibson still hurt or is Sark still worried about fumbleitis. We can't have either Wisner nor Blue in pass pro for A gap blitzes and stunts.

[closetohumping 17778]

97th in red zone scoring 

[Constant 6840]

13 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

This is what I don't understand.  You've got the QB Whisperer coach.  You've got a perfect 10, 5 star QB.  Receivers are great.  OL should have at least 4 make the NFL.  TE is amazing.  RB could be better, but it's not the worst.  The defense gives you the ball pretty quickly via turnovers or 3 and outs.  How is this team not wracking up points like, say, OU during the Riley years?  I'm not being facetious.  I'm truly curious.

Texas doesn’t throw the ball downfield well enough to score quickly enough to compete with Riley’s offense at OU.

[RandomIdoit 739]

I will never understand why they were throwing to the end zone on the last possession in regulation.  It put them into 3rd and 10 when there was still plenty of time left and you had timeouts. Pick up 4-5 yards on first down, then maybe take a shot at the end zone. Then on third down, you have more plays at your disposal. Maybe you don’t score but you can get a new set of downs. 

[MrBig 5602]

Some choices Sark makes on offense just has me getting up to take a piss while they’re on the field instead of waiting for a commercial break.

Based on some of the coaching decisions Sark has made, I would not be surprised if Sark was the one who told Kiffin in 2005, “we should leave Reggie on the bench and go for this 4th down with only LenDale White on the field.” And the rest was history after that. 

[RoyalBevo21 912]

10 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

We did run right at them. Many times. They destroyed us.

Not really, a lot of counters and misdirection. Almost no zone or power. Probably wouldn't have made a difference, but 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Hookem2147 21930]

2 minutes ago, RandomIdoit said:

I will never understand why they were throwing to the end zone on the last possession in regulation.  It put them into 3rd and 10 when there was still plenty of time left and you had timeouts. Pick up 4-5 yards on first down, then maybe take a shot at the end zone. Then on third down, you have more plays at your disposal. Maybe you don’t score but you can get a new set of downs. 

You’ll never understand why we were trying to score a TD instead of potentially placing the game on the shoulders of the least reliable kicker in the SEC?

There were 24 seconds left. The endzone shots were the correct call. The 1st and 10 middle screen we tried to call for Helm also had checkdowns available and Ewers chose to take a sack, essentially killing the drive.

[bschoolprof 6335]

13 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

Is Gibson still hurt or is Sark still worried about fumbleitis. We can't have either Wisner nor Blue in pass pro for A gap blitzes and stunts.

Honestly, i had forgotten all about Gibson.  He's been disappeared like some CCP member who said something wrong at a state dinner.  

6 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

97th in red zone scoring 

2023 holla!

[closetohumping 17778]

Just now, Hookem2147 said:

You’ll never understand why we were trying to score a TD instead of potentially placing the game on the shoulders of the least reliable kicker in the SEC?

There were 24 seconds left. The endzone shots were the correct call. The 1st and 10 middle screen we tried to call for Helm also had checkdowns available and Ewers chose to take a sack, essentially killing the drive.

Did you miss the “pick up four or five yards” part?  We had time and timeouts. 

[RoyalBevo21 912]

1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

You’ll never understand why we were trying to score a TD instead of potentially placing the game on the shoulders of the least reliable kicker in the SEC?

There were 24 seconds left. The endzone shots were the correct call. The 1st and 10 middle screen we tried to call for Helm also had checkdowns available and Ewers chose to take a sack, essentially killing the drive.

Bingo. If Quinn throws the ball out in front of Wingo on that PI play that's six. He had that corner beat. 

[hookem48 4808]

10 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

We did run right at them. Many times. They destroyed us.

Maybe tip toeing up to the LOS wasn't a great idea for our running backs either.

[boilerhorn 1603]

Unless I am misremembering something, Sark uses the portal to replace outgoing players, not to supplant existing starters.  I'm astonished that OU pushed him out, but Gabriel clearly to land where he was largely guaranteed a starting role.  Sark could not promise him a starting role, and he did not want to disrupt the culture/system/whatever.  IMO, he's managing some positions (most clearly OL, QB, LB) different than others (WR).

QB recruit rankings in parens.

2021: When Sark showed up, QB room was lackluster: Card (4, dual) and Thompson (16 dual).  It was a *must* to recruit over them or entertain a transfer.  His transition class had Cale Lourd as QB.  Who?  Yup. 
2022: Ewers (1), Maalik Murphy (9)
2023: Manning (1)
2024: Trey Owens (16)
2025: KJ Lacey (18)
2026: Dia Bell (4)

After Herbert, Oregon's approach has been to leverage transfers.  Oregon was able to get Nix and Gabriel to transfer and become successful.  That was out of necessity, as their QB room has been so-so, except for the transfers. Rosters...
2022: Bo Nix, Jay Butterfield (6'6", 202 4* RS FR - Transfer to SJ State), AJ Abbott (FR Walkon from Houston Stratford, transferred), Ty Thompson (6'4", 215, RS FR, 4*, Transferred)
2023: Bo Nix, Brock Thomas (6'0" 165 3*, FR), Ty Thompson (Soph), Austin Novasad (6'3", 205, 4* Dripping Springs, originally a Baylor commit)
2024: Dillon Gabriel, Luke Moga (6'2" 200 3*, FR), Dante Moore (UCLA transfer, #4 overall recruit - Manning was #1), Brock Thomas (Now RS FR), Austin Novosad (now RS FR), Ryder Hayes (FR from Grandview, TX - looks like a walkon)
2025 Commits: Akili Smith, Jr.  (6'5", 200, 4*, #15 QB), Jaron Kawae Sagapolutele (6'2", 215, 4* from Hawaii, #8 QB)

In 2021, AJ Brown Jr was the starting QB, a transfer from Boston College.

Going into 2025, they'll have 7 QBs.  Dante Moore has a fairly clear path to start.  That will be the 5th consecutive season Oregon has started a recent transfer QB.  That has to hurt their ability to recruit and develop.  But perhaps they don't care, because (1) NIL and (2) they are getting results with that approach.

Other notes about Oregon:
Butterfield was #5 in the class that had DJU #1, Stroud #2, Beck #9 for pro-style QBs.  He's did nothing at Oregon and has not played much at SJSU.
Ty Thompson was #7 in the class that had (1) Ewers, (2) Caleb Williams, (4) Vandagriff (now at KY by way of UGA), (5) JJ McCarthy (6) McCord, (9) Drake Maye, (10) Dart and (13) Milroe.  He's QB2 at Tulane now.
Austin Novosad was #13 in the class with Manning, Dante Moore.

Edited December 8 by boilerhorn

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9 hours ago, TheYoungHorn said:

Odd that their two key injuries led directly to the win. 

Fake because of situation and having untested punter. 

Backup QB needs to run to get offense moving, they simplify game plan and add in more QB runs...

We also let them pick up a first down throwing when we rushed 3 and dropped 8, didn't understand that call at all.