Stupid people in NJ look up at the night sky for the first time, believe every moving light is a drone

[jimmyjazz 47,090]

Tonight a moderately dim dinner guest brought it up out of the blue.  I was remarkably cool-headed (for me) and refrained from calling her an idiot, but I couldn't avoid a little debunking.  I don't think I convinced her, but another guest was laughing out loud so the whole discussion sort of wilted on the vine.  People, the worst.

[TwiceHorn 32,049]

10 hours ago, AnTiM said:

Please send up a few A-10s with mini guns blazing, maybe some of the morons standing outside and spreading BS will get the cure and the rest will take the hint.

For the record, the GAU-8 30mm autocannon is not a minigun.  Similar concept, but different.

[Pato del Muerto 53,437]

2 hours ago, Texasborn91 said:

 

this was going over the house tonight. Crazy the detail when you zoom in!

Must be the navy. I can see it’s catch hook. 

[F250 29,194]

53 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 Alternately, the “aliens” will really be demons pretending to be aliens to carry out the same scam. This has strong potential to be the new QAnon. 

I've actually heard this before, my freshman year one of those campus crusaders types shared this theory with me.

The only reason the conversation sticks out was because of the aliens are actually demons theory, which sounded crazy. Fortunately, the conversation ended quickly when I said as a Methodist I subscribe to historicism and he looked at me like I was the one talking about aliens and demons.

[hayden_horn 11,402]

56 minutes ago, F250 said:

I've actually heard this before, my freshman year one of those campus crusaders types shared this theory with me.

The only reason the conversation sticks out was because of the aliens are actually demons theory, which sounded crazy. Fortunately, the conversation ended quickly when I said as a Methodist I subscribe to historicism and he looked at me like I was the one talking about aliens and demons.

yeah identifying as catholic would shut these people up right quick

[randomhorn 2,160]

3 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

You sure that is what is flying over?  

[atomheartbevo 90,626]

We really need to hit these people with the night-time drone show equivalent of this.

[PRONG HORN 3,219]

 

No fly (NOTAM) issued for air space over Picatinny base in Jersey.  11/25 through 12/26.  Ends the day after Christmas.  Not sure if this is Santa Claus related or not.  I think the best guess about the drones is they're ours, and it's either a drill, or it's not.   I just don't think so many huge, winged drones are being piloted by civilians in a concentrated space for weeks on end.  

Link from faa.gov re NOTAM

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_8833.html

 

Quote

Issue Date :			November 25, 2024 at 2211 UTC
Location :			Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey near SPARTA VORTAC (SAX)
Beginning Date and Time :			Effective Immediately
Ending Date and Time :			December 26, 2024 at 2359 UTC
Reason for NOTAM :			Temporary flight restrictions for Special Security Reasons

 

[bernorange 8,385]

FWIW (Random posts thread claiming the drones are DOD property first used in Ukraine. They are designed for measuring radiation and used for sweeping an area looking for dirty nuclear bombs.):

 

[AnTiM 1,694]

7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

For the record, the GAU-8 30mm autocannon is not a minigun.  Similar concept, but different.

Foolish mistake because I know better.  Saw my first A-10 fly at a show in the late 70s and have been fascinated with them ever since.

[Brisketexan 106,871]

FWIW (Random posts thread claiming the drones are DOD property first used in Ukraine. They are designed for measuring radiation and used for sweeping an area looking for dirty nuclear bombs.):
 

Jesus. Read the full thread and comments. It’s Soros and the deepstate planning a dirty bomb attack to disrupt Trump’s inauguration. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

The stupidity has reached a point of singularity.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,724]

Has anyone checked to see if Greg Brady is behind this?

 

[Sawbonz 28,168]

On 12/11/2024 at 3:45 PM, Evil Bill Obrien said:

That video is about 52 minutes too long when the much simpler explanation is there's aliens out there with lots of time on their hands and know how to use interstellar travel and lasers and shit and do it not to try and communicate with us or colonize us but simply for the lulz

Fixed 

[Viper 12,218]

 

 

[Mittens 8,704]

If Joe is worried, you should be worried.  

tldw:  Dude thinks the drones are govt, looking for unaccounted for Ukrainian nuclear (or nucular, in his vernacular) warheads from the 1980's nuclear freeze/disarmament. 

 

[SimonBolivar 11,062]

3 minutes ago, Mittens said:

If Joe is worried, you should be worried.  

Lulz

[Ted Lange 16,405]

17 minutes ago, Mittens said:

If Joe is worried, you should be worried.  

tldw:  Dude thinks the drones are govt, looking for unaccounted for Ukrainian nuclear (or nucular, in his vernacular) warheads from the 1980's nuclear freeze/disarmament. 

 

Here is the guy in the video

 

 

Seems like a very stable dude.

 

[miguelito 11,487]

It's hard for me to take that Joe guy seriously unless he's wearing Oakleys and recording from his truck.

[The Ace of Aces 5,376]

12 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

You sure that is what is flying over?  

Yea. Here is the flightaware path - it was Cory81. Landed at Naval Air Station Patuxent River 7:18 minutes after taking off from the air base in Tulsa.

I’m the red dot. Definitely some type of training exercise - this plane was around while the drones were overhead. You could hear the hum - flying at 700’ for a good chunk of time.  

[956 Worldwide 35,586]

5 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Here is the guy in the video

 

 

Seems like a very stable dude.

 

10/10, perfect, no notes. 
 

[Surly Bevo 25,705]

24 minutes ago, Mittens said:

If Joe is worried, you should be worried.  

tldw:  Dude thinks the drones are govt, looking for unaccounted for Ukrainian nuclear (or nucular, in his vernacular) warheads from the 1980's nuclear freeze/disarmament. 

 

Joe Rogan isn't worried. He wants dumbasses to be worried and tune into whatever episode of the Joe Rogan Experience he brings on some dipshit to talk about this.  The road goes on forever and the grift never ends....

[jimmyjazz 47,090]

"Your an idiot" definitely stings.

[Parliament 14,593]

28 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Here is the guy in the video

 

 

 

*traitors

23 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

10/10, perfect, no notes. 
 

*you're

[miguelito 11,487]

30 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Yea. Here is the flightaware path - it was Cory81. Landed at Naval Air Station Patuxent River 7:18 minutes after taking off from the air base in Tulsa.

I’m the red dot. Definitely some type of training exercise - this plane was around while the drones were overhead. You could hear the hum - flying at 700’ for a good chunk of time.  

[atomheartbevo 90,626]

 

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Jesus. Read the full thread and comments. It’s Soros and the deepstate planning a dirty bomb attack to disrupt Trump’s inauguration. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

The stupidity has reached a point of singularity.

Just so happens Tugg came out with a video covering the best and worst conspiracy theories yesterday.  I can’t stand him yet I had to listen.  Then I forwarded it to my conspiracy-minded relatives.  He does get all sciency at times.
 

 

[mdmost 43,920]

And already covered. Someone's going to kill Santa and the reindeer when they mistake him for alien drones. 

Edited December 15 by mdmost

[ChickenSandwich 9,939]

 

 

[Parliament 14,593]

The guys they arrested, what are their politics, religion and immigration status?  I need to know what to think about this.

[Sawbonz 28,168]

2 hours ago, Mittens said:

If Joe is worried, you should be worried.  

tldw:  Dude thinks the drones are govt, looking for unaccounted for Ukrainian nuclear (or nucular, in his vernacular) warheads from the 1980's nuclear freeze/disarmament. 

 

[huge 3,831]

Also aren't politicians in NJ bitching about this from both sides?

Am I wrong about that?

[Keef 859]

News came out today that Wright Patterson Airforce Base was partially shut down on Friday due to unknown drones. 

[Dbeasy 15,561]

So the head of Homeland Security is confirming people are seeing drones. This isn’t a surprise to me. They are around. And he reminds everyone that the rules for flying them have changed.

I don’t understand why posters in this thread are calling all people idiots. Some people are seeing drones, and there is a concern about whether there is something going on. Why is that wrong? Is it because some idiots are claiming aliens or foreign adversaries? Sure, but that doesn’t mean that every drone sighting is fake and/or automatically harmless. 
 

https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/foreign-involvement-alejandro-mayorkas-drone-sightings-116805504.

[956 Worldwide 35,586]

17 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

So the head of Homeland Security is confirming people are seeing drones. This isn’t a surprise to me. They are around. And he reminds everyone that the rules for flying them have changed.

I don’t understand why posters in this thread are calling all people idiots. Some people are seeing drones, and there is a concern about whether there is something going on. Why is that wrong? Is it because some idiots are claiming aliens or foreign adversaries? Sure, but that doesn’t mean that every drone sighting is fake and/or automatically harmless. 
 

https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/foreign-involvement-alejandro-mayorkas-drone-sightings-116805504.

No, we are calling people idiots who take blurry videos of airplanes, helicopters, stars, and planets and call them a drone invasion. Mayorkas said pretty clearly that there are over 8,000 normal and legal drone flights per day using recreational and commercial systems.  People are going to see those, and sometimes they will even stray into military or commercial airspace.  He went on to say “we are not seeing anything unusual.” 

 The narrative of a mysterious drone invasion in New Jersey is stupid and now people are flashing lasers at manned aircraft. 

[Bevo 13,870]

4 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

No, we are calling people idiots who take blurry videos of airplanes, helicopters, stars, and planets and call them a drone invasion. Mayorkas said pretty clearly that there are over 8,000 normal and legal drone flights per day using recreational and commercial systems.  People are going to see those, and sometimes they will even stray into military or commercial airspace.  He went on to say “we are not seeing anything unusual.” 

 The narrative of a mysterious drone invasion in New Jersey is stupid and now people are flashing lasers at manned aircraft. 

I haven’t been following this as it’s in fucking New Jersey but… With such vague government answers that added to speculation rather than deescalation concerns, I think that it is more than household drones. Not foreign though, and probably not testing, but possibly surveillance looking for something. I was at Brushy Creek a month ago where homeland security was looking for a 12 yr old Indian boy using drones. However the drones that they used were small and looked like the recreational hobby ones.

[Covri 6,368]

[Dbeasy 15,561]

This reminds me of the clown scare of 2016. 

[jimmyjazz 47,090]

This is a bit, right?

[956 Worldwide 35,586]

30 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I haven’t been following this as it’s in fucking New Jersey but… With such vague government answers that added to speculation rather than deescalation concerns, I think that it is more than household drones. Not foreign though, and probably not testing, but possibly surveillance looking for something. I was at Brushy Creek a month ago where homeland security was looking for a 12 yr old Indian boy using drones. However the drones that they used were small and looked like the recreational hobby ones.

While I agree the federal communication has not been awesome, they have been seriously hamstrung by irresponsible local authorities and a truly stupid situation.  They train and practice all the time to effectively communicate good information during a real emergency.  But over a set of perfectly normal December days, half of the eastern seaboard woke up and asked the feds to explain why everyone was freaking out over nothing.

So yeah the first step was to act in good faith and dispatch some people to see if there WAS anything to flip out over. And in the interim issue a few “we are looking into it, but no cause for alarm statements.  And now people are hearing directly that there’s nothing unusual so calm tf down, but they’ve had a stream of UFO kooks and grotesquely irresponsible sheriffs and mayors assuring them that they have every right to freak out until the negative is definitively proven. 

Edited December 16 by 956 Worldwide

[Js1 87,159]

20 minutes ago, Covri said:

My mom must have seen this as she claimed they saw a drone 

[Parliament 14,593]

16 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This reminds me of the clown scare of 2016. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_flying_disc_craze

[NWBuck 8,628]

36 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This reminds me of the clown scare of 2016. 

And like then, we've just elected one. 

[F250 29,194]

42 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This reminds me of the clown scare of 2016. 

Reminds me of the flashing your headlights will get you shot by gang members urban legend in the 90s.

[Ted Lange 16,405]

19 minutes ago, F250 said:

Reminds me of the flashing your headlights will get you shot by gang members urban legend in the 90s.

Can you imagine if there was social media back then?  Morons like Joe Rogan would be interviewing dipshits and amplifying/monetizing it.   

[atomheartbevo 90,626]

23 minutes ago, F250 said:

Reminds me of the flashing your headlights will get you shot by gang members urban legend in the 90s.

Followed by the “if somebody flashes their headlights at you that means they are going to shoot you so you better shoot them first!” craze.

[atomheartbevo 90,626]

55 minutes ago, Parliament said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_flying_disc_craze

I always found it amusing that what eventually became the frisbee started being sold to the masses in 1948. 

[956 Worldwide 35,586]

13 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Can you imagine if there was social media back then?  Morons like Joe Rogan would be interviewing dipshits and amplifying/monetizing it.   

Me, traveling back in time to when my friend’s dad was downloading Netscape 1997 for homework:

”In 35 years this will make you vote to bring back polio.” 

[Parliament 14,593]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

I always found it amusing that what eventually became the frisbee started being sold to the masses in 1948. 

Reverse-engineered alien tech.

[Fudge Nuggets 19,449]

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Me, traveling back in time to when my friend’s dad was downloading Netscape 1997 for homework:

”In 35 years this will make you vote to bring back polio.” 

With RFK Jr in the cabinet, that’s exactly what we did.

[BearMace 2,244]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Followed by the “if somebody flashes their headlights at you that means they are going to shoot you so you better shoot them first!” craze.

Texas will be first make clear in no uncertain terms you have the right to stand your ground and take preemptive fire when flashed upon... when the valet turned off your automatic lights and somebody was trying to do you a solid.

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