Stupid people in NJ look up at the night sky for the first time, believe every moving light is a drone

[Bevo 13816]

When is drone season, where can I get a license, what’s the limit, and do I need tags?

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[Brisketexan 106559]

1 minute ago, Bevo said:

When is drone season, where can I get a license, what’s the limit, and do I need tags?

This is America.  Just call them "school kids" and you can shoot as many as you want.

[OU Sucks 9324]

2 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

If I lived in motherfucking Jersey I'd be trolling these idiots with fireworks, loud fog horns and shit. Call into radio stations with all kinds of dumb ass claims.

I didn't do any of that, but I happen to live next to an airport and posted a night video of a small business jet on short approach to the runway. It was blatantly obvious it was a plane, and my caption sarcastically said how it looked resembled that plane model, and so on....it was the most obvious joke in the world. The video blew up at got 1M views in 5 days, with comments ranging from a bunch of "it's a plain [sic] you idiot" to bizarro conspiracy theory/shady government stuff. We already knew this, but this country is fucked.

[Keef 851]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

 

Perfect encapsulation of where we are politically in this country. Fucking hell. Good luck everyone.  

Do you want me to go through and reiterate all of my very detailed posts on this thread?  And why is this political?  Because I agree with Brisket on pretty much every political item he posts.

[Bevo 13816]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This is America.  Just call them "school kids" and you can shoot as many as you want.

How much do you need to lead a drone? It seems like they would be easier to hit than dove.

[aggie08 21730]

If anyone needs a C4 hookup for their drones, I know a guy.

[Biff Tannen 46055]

13 minutes ago, Keef said:

Do you want me to go through and reiterate all of my very detailed posts on this thread?  And why is this political?  Because I agree with Brisket on pretty much every political item he posts.

It’s not inherently “political”, but the “discussion” around it is absolutely the same psychology. It seems clear you WANT this to be a conspiracy. Brisket and others have brought fact, logic, and reason to the table and you are rejecting it based on…well, feelings. 
 

Sure your conjecture COULD have some merit, but ALL of the evidence points the other way. Yet because it’s the internet, everyone gets an equal voice and the audience has an equal chance to be misinformed. 
 

Just take a look at which media outlets are running with these stories.  When you find yourself siding with Fox News or aggy, take a step back and rethink. 

[huge 3824]

17 minutes ago, Keef said:

Do you want me to go through and reiterate all of my very detailed posts on this thread?  And why is this political?  Because I agree with Brisket on pretty much every political item he posts.

Sorry.  Every issue is binary and politically connected.

[Evil Bill Obrien 3489]

3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

If anyone needs a C4 hookup for their drones, I know a guy.

Nice try Fed

[Brisketexan 106559]

13 minutes ago, Bevo said:

How much do you need to lead a drone? It seems like they would be easier to hit than dove.

Don't ask me.  If it flies, and you're looking for somebody to miss the hell out of a shot at it....I'm your guy.

[956 Worldwide 35500]

6 minutes ago, huge said:

Sorry.  Every issue is binary and politically connected.

I mean, this discussion is absolutely revealing of how much of America thinks in binary terms:

”There have been some drone incursions into military installations and since there’s 8,000 legal drone flights per day it’s likely people have seen some.  However, there’s no evidence of a mystery drone invasion on the east coast and nearly all the reported sightings appear to be regular manned aircraft.” 
 

“But you just said that drones are real.” 

[butthurt 1560]

7 pages and not posted.

[Js1 86883]

34 minutes ago, Bevo said:

do I need tags?

Paper plates will be sufficient.  Just slap a Nissan Altima decal on your drone. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13687]

I'm sure this has been addressed but if the drones were from the Chinese military, US military, CIA or even a private US company while are they flying with lights? The drones don't need lights for navigation or even to stay away from each other. 

My guess is that these are drones by private individuals that are bored of only flying above their own house? Can't private drones now be programmed with a flight pattern and return home?

[956 Worldwide 35500]

41 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

 

Perfect encapsulation of where we are politically in this country. Fucking hell. Good luck everyone.  

The venn diagram of UFO grifters/believers and drone worries is basically a circle.  The grifters have pivoted to this because they see an opportunity to expand the grift and hopefully overcome some of the friction inherent to being an alien kook by focusing on something more plausible. 
 

“Harmless” fringe and irrational beliefs always break quarantine and it’s our tax dollars being spent to deploy military tech to track United’s DC-NY shuttle. 

[Ted Lange 16332]

8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I'm sure this has been addressed but if the drones were from the Chinese military, US military, CIA or even a private US company while are they flying with lights? The drones don't need lights for navigation or even to stay away from each other. 

My guess is that these are drones by private individuals that are bored of only flying above their own house? Can't private drones now be programmed with a flight pattern and return home?

I have asked and so have several others.   It never gets addressed.   I guess Aliens can cross the universe, but only with FAA required safety lights.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13687]

1 minute ago, Ted Lange said:

I have asked and so have several others.   It never gets addressed.   I guess Aliens can cross the universe, but only with FAA required safety lights.

well at least the aliens are being respective of our laws. 

[Keef 851]

48 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

you are rejecting it based on…well, feelings. 

Where have I do that?  What I have said is civlian reports + military reports + people receiving classified reports and saying there is something there lends me to think that, more likely than not, there is more to the story here.

 

48 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Just take a look at which media outlets are running with these stories.  When you find yourself siding with Fox News or aggy, take a step back and rethink. 

You mean like the Wall Street Journal (admittedly not liberal, but a serious news outlet), the BBC, the New York Times, and CNN?  Those liberal rags?  And aren't you relying on...well, feelings?  You saw it reported on Fox, and now assume that everyone who treats it seriously is a Fox News nut?

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[Herpa Derpa 6296]

On 12/13/2024 at 7:52 AM, Biff Tannen said:

I hope they are aliens and are coming to rid this planet of our stupidity. 

They're gonna need a bigger drone.

[Brisketexan 106559]

25 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

well at least the aliens are being respective of our laws. 

Boy, you just skipped RIGHT over the non-consensual anal probing, didn't ya?  Don't think we don't see what you're doing.

[jimmyjazz 46944]

[atomheartbevo 90535]

44 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I'm sure this has been addressed but if the drones were from the Chinese military, US military, CIA or even a private US company while are they flying with lights? The drones don't need lights for navigation or even to stay away from each other. 

34 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

I have asked and so have several others.   It never gets addressed.   I guess Aliens can cross the universe, but only with FAA required safety lights.

 

 

[Keef 851]

34 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

well at least the aliens are being respective of our laws. 

I have not seen a single person on this thread suggesting it is aliens.  And if you're a normal person flying the drones illegally, why would you keep the lights on either?  I think the bottom line is that it doesn't make a ton of sense to fly drones with blinking lights over a populated area unless you (i) are doing it intentionally and don't care or don't think you'll be caught or (ii) you aren't sophisticated, in which case, why are we struggling to put a stop this?  Blinking lights don't exclude much of anything.

[956 Worldwide 35500]

I love how the option of “it’s a combination of legal and normal drone flights and many more misidentified aircraft” isn’t even considered. 

[Sawbonz 28066]

 

[Covri 6363]

12 minutes ago, Keef said:

I have not seen a single person on this thread suggesting it is aliens.  And if you're a normal person flying the drones illegally, why would you keep the lights on either?  I think the bottom line is that it doesn't make a ton of sense to fly drones with blinking lights over a populated area unless you (i) are doing it intentionally and don't care or don't think you'll be caught or (ii) you aren't sophisticated, in which case, why are we struggling to put a stop this?  Blinking lights don't exclude much of anything.

You make a good point. We really should consider this to be aliens. Aliens have the means and the motives!

[atomheartbevo 90535]

12 minutes ago, Keef said:

I have not seen a single person on this thread suggesting it is aliens.  And if you're a normal person flying the drones illegally, why would you keep the lights on either?  I think the bottom line is that it doesn't make a ton of sense to fly drones with blinking lights over a populated area unless you (i) are doing it intentionally and don't care or don't think you'll be caught or (ii) you aren't sophisticated,

The alien bullshit is being floated online by the mentally ill/incompetent/Joe Rogan listeners, and we have elected officials at the national level (in the House of Representatives) publicly claiming they were told it was Iranians (because Iran is in a great spot to be picking a head-on fight with us) while other officials at the local and national levels are being careful with their words because they don’t want to be proven wrong, and we have certain news channels stirring the pot with unhinged or grifting guests looking to stir up the tinfoil crowd, and when you mix that all together with a healthy dose of social media, we end up with half the population panicking.

 

[Keef 851]

8 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I love how the option of “it’s a combination of legal and normal drone flights and many more misidentified aircraft” isn’t even considered. 

Of course it’s considered. My only point is that it shouldn’t be the only thing considered, especially with the incursions on our military installations. 

[atomheartbevo 90535]

9 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I love how the option of “it’s a combination of legal and normal drone flights and many more misidentified aircraft” isn’t even considered. 

What I like is the “do your own research, don’t trust the government, don’t trust the mainstream media” crowd is not doing any research on air traffic patterns, is not asking why these things have running lights, is listening to grifting politicians trying to stir them up, and is listening to the mainstream media (Fox News).

[C-Man 27673]

Buddy of mine sent me this. Said it was flying over my house near Love Field.




Me: “Where is that?

Buddy: “Zoom in.”



Made me laugh.

[956 Worldwide 35500]

2 minutes ago, Keef said:

Of course it’s considered. My only point is that it shouldn’t be the only thing considered, especially with the incursions on our military installations. 

It should be strongly considered when the NSC and DHS Secretary say that’s what’s going on. 

[Keef 851]

1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It should be strongly considered when the NSC and DHS Secretary say that’s what’s going on. 

They have said that is their initial assessment and that they’re investigating. But they have no idea what it is. Which is why a lot of the politicians on both sides of the aisle are pissed. 

[atomheartbevo 90535]

2 minutes ago, Keef said:

Of course it’s considered. My only point is that it shouldn’t be the only thing considered, especially with the incursions on our military installations. 

Ehh, the tinfoil crowd has been trying to see what’s happening on various military installations for many decades (since at least the 70s).  The internet is full of their photos of Area 51, etc.  Every now and then one of them is arrested for trespassing.  Same goes for actual spies.  Drones just add another avenue of surveillance for them.

[Keef 851]

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

Ehh, the tinfoil crowd has been trying to see what’s happening on various military installations for many decades (since at least the 70s).  The internet is full of their photos of Area 51, etc.  Every now and then one of them is arrested for trespassing.  Same goes for actual spies.  Drones just add another avenue of surveillance for them.

I would encourage you to, as you say, do your own research and review the actual WSJ reporting on the Langely drones. Seems very unlikely that the feds, so accustomed to nabbing trespassers as you rightly point out, would struggle for weeks over one of our most sensitive bases. 

[956 Worldwide 35500]

2 minutes ago, Keef said:

They have said that is their initial assessment and that they’re investigating. But they have no idea what it is. Which is why a lot of the politicians on both sides of the aisle are pissed. 

Google Translate needs to add a “federal government official or spokesperson” button so that people can know when they’re being told that they’re being really stupid. 

[Keef 851]

2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Google Translate needs to add a “federal government official or spokesperson” button so that people can know when they’re being told that they’re being really stupid. 

I’m just quoting what they said. Sounds like you heard what you want to hear, so that’s the important thing. 

[bolverk 30226]

26 minutes ago, Keef said:

I have not seen a single person on this thread suggesting it is aliens.

Go re-read Prong Horn's posts on the first couple of pages. He's definitely hinting at it. And that's the thing when you're questioning folk's responses to the conspiratorial notions floated in this thread and elsewhere. The dude is either a hateful and certified loon who posts during his night shift at 7-11 or a Russian propagandist operating during Moscow's normal business operating hours.

Recent history suggests being very wary of misinformation that spreads like wildfire across the media spectrum because pricks like him get off on spouting lies in the online world to watch America eat itself. 

6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Buddy of mine sent me this. Said it was flying over my house near Love Field.

Me: “Where is that?

Buddy: “Zoom in.”



Made me laugh.

Albino Christmas Jack-o'-Lantern? Jack Skellington?

[atomheartbevo 90535]

2 minutes ago, Keef said:

I would encourage you to, as you say, do your own research and review the actual WSJ reporting on the Langely drones. Seems very unlikely that the feds, so accustomed to nabbing trespassers as you rightly point out, would struggle for weeks over one of our most sensitive bases. 

Which is why they probably know more about what’s going on that we do.  The military even said a few days ago that they’ve been used to dealing with drones for years, and that they have the means to deal with them when they are directly over a base.  In the same briefing, they said they can’t do anything about them when they only fly near a base or are over civilian areas, other than talk to local law enforcement (and the quality varies greatly based on the interviews we’ve seen).  But they absolutely have eyes (or more fancier equipment than the Mark I Eyeball) on this stuff - Picatinny maybe mostly concerned with small arms and small and known for their rifle rail system, but they also test other gear the grunts carry, including optics/sensors. 

And anybody wanting to spy on a military base is not going to have the running lights going, which makes me wonder if it’s drones being flown out of Picatinny, since they test a lot of the smaller equipment  

And those are not our most sensitive bases - Naval Weapons Station Earle is for loading ammo on ships, and Picatinny is mostly smaller stuff hidden away in buildings - the really sensitive stuff is not in fucking New Jersey with millions of people around, it’s out west where the military/feds fully control the land and airspace for miles around their Installations.

[Armybrat 41291]

50 minutes ago, Keef said:

I have not seen a single person on this thread suggesting it is aliens.  And if you're a normal person flying the drones illegally, why would you keep the lights on either?  I think the bottom line is that it doesn't make a ton of sense to fly drones with blinking lights over a populated area unless you (i) are doing it intentionally and don't care or don't think you'll be caught or (ii) you aren't sophisticated, in which case, why are we struggling to put a stop this?  Blinking lights don't exclude much of anything.

 

[Macanudo 13242]

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This is America.  Just call them "school kids" and you can shoot as many as you want.

Just don't lead 'em as much.  

[Armybrat 41291]

[Armybrat 41291]

Sig Sauer supposedly developed this drone.

 

[Js1 86883]

[Brisketexan 106559]

That’s just stupid.

I’d go with #4 shot.

[956 Worldwide 35500]

[Surly Bevo 25654]

3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

[Gatorubet 30620]

if you want proof that the entire drone thing is bullshit, I just saw an article where Joe Rogan is very concerned about the drones

[MissingInAction 25476]

5 hours ago, Js1 said:

Paper plates will be sufficient.  Just slap a Nissan Altima decal on your drone. 

This works in Mexico until it doesn't.

[MissingInAction 25476]

2 hours ago, Macanudo said:

Just don't lead 'em as much.  

Jesus, Johnny.

[Beau Vine 55784]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

if you want proof that the entire drone thing is bullshit, I just saw an article where Joe Rogan is very concerned about the drones