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13 minutes ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Truck is way too big if you can't park it without making a 3-5 point turn dawg.

Yep.  I drive a Tundra and I can make any right angle turn into a spot, head first, in 1, maybe 2 maximum turns.  OR.....I keep going and find two open spots next to one anther and turn right in.  Only people that need the 3-5pt turn are the 3/4 ton drivers, Raptor dorks, and the TRX twats.  

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14 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Yep.  I drive a Tundra and I can make any right angle turn into a spot, head first, in 1, maybe 2 maximum turns.  OR.....I keep going and find two open spots next to one anther and turn right in.  Only people that need the 3-5pt turn are the 3/4 ton drivers, Raptor dorks, and the TRX twats.  

I also drive a Tundra (leveled 4wd with an aftermarket front bumper), and "two maximum turns" is a 3 pt turn. It rarely happens, except in narrow rows with small spots (like Airport Fast Park) The two spots side by side is ideal, which is why I said I normally just drive to the back of the lot. 

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3 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

I also drive a Tundra (leveled 4wd with an aftermarket front bumper), and "two maximum turns" is a 3 pt turn. It rarely happens, except in narrow rows with small spots (like Airport Fast Park) The two spots side by side is ideal, which is why I said I normally just drive to the back of the lot. 

Same.  On the truck (TRD Pro + upgrades) and the parking further out.  Any why I can easily fight off any urges to upgrade to a 3/4 ton.  If anything, I need a 3rd car for zipping around town.  Nor does it help that a friend just got a M3 CS and had it wrapped.  

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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

Same.  On the truck (TRD Pro + upgrades) and the parking further out.  Any why I can easily fight off any urges to upgrade to a 3/4 ton.  If anything, I need a 3rd car for zipping around town.  Nor does it help that a friend just got a M3 CS and had it wrapped.  

My main pickup is a 3/4 ton crew cab with an 8’ bed. It is the last longbed I will ever own. 

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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

Same.  On the truck (TRD Pro + upgrades) and the parking further out.  Any why I can easily fight off any urges to upgrade to a 3/4 ton.  If anything, I need a 3rd car for zipping around town.  Nor does it help that a friend just got a M3 CS and had it wrapped.  

This time next year I'll be done with child support and I'm thinking seriously about keeping the truck for towing my boat, hunting, and other truck stuff and buying an M2 or M4 as a fun "around town" car. 

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1 minute ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

This time next year I'll be done with child support and I'm thinking seriously about keeping the truck for towing my boat, hunting, and other truck stuff and buying an M2 or M4 as a fun "around town" car. 

Of those two, get the M2 and get it with the manual - the last of the M cars to still have this option.  Bonus - nobody will steal it as very few these days can drive a stick-shift.  

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3 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Of those two, get the M2 and get it with the manual - the last of the M cars to still have this option.  Bonus - nobody will steal it as very few these days can drive a stick-shift.  

I gotta go sit in one. I love the idea of the M2 with the manual, but I'm 6'5" and 55 years old. I don't want to be the old guy that's gotta crawl out of his car. Same reason I won't look at a vette. 

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Just now, Pescado_Rojo said:

I gotta go sit in one. I love the idea of the M2 with the manual, but I'm 6'5" and 55 years old. I don't want to be the old guy that's gotta crawl out of his car. Same reason I won't look at a vette. 

Meh, I'm 6'5 and 51.  You'll be fine.  I've ridden in them.  Backseat is as useless as a Porsche's, but you have the leg/head room as the driver/passenger.  They're not bad getting in and out of - but obviously test them all out.  Just don't get a jeep and take the damn doors off....

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3 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Meh, I'm 6'5 and 51.  You'll be fine.  I've ridden in them.  Backseat is as useless as a Porsche's, but you have the leg/head room as the driver/passenger.  They're not bad getting in and out of - but obviously test them all out.  Just don't get a jeep and take the damn doors off....

Truth be told, an F87 CS in Laguna Blue with a manual would be ideal if I could find the right one. 

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https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hg2sgs/1216_ua2359_ord_to_ewr/

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Location    

Flight from ORD to EWR   

Date

Dec 16, 2024. 4:51pm - 7:08pm

These are all short clips from a lot of video I took during my flight from Chicago to Newark on 12/16/24. The flashing blue lights were interesting because I was not actually able to see that with my naked eye.

The flight was UA2359.

*more details

Camera: iPhone 16 Pro Max

Didn't notice a reaction from other passengers but I was also glued to my window.

Started noticing the objects ~20m into the flight and then towards the end of the flight. The objects show more detail than I noticed with my naked eye.

I'll post the full uncut video to YouTube tomorrow for everyone's viewing pleasure.

Videos from at 4:51pm - 7:08pm

Here are the full uncut videos. Including here for more visibility;

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oKEink9NYQ

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj5fyxeH6jM

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8PDrabW5lQ

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2 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Truth be told, an F87 CS in Laguna Blue with a manual would be ideal if I could find the right one. 

Dude in Frisco has a baby-blue M2 and is always at the bar at Market Street off Lebanon/Legacy.  I covet that little monster every time I see it in the lot, parked way off to one side.  

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3 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

 

Original post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hg2sgs/1216_ua2359_ord_to_ewr/

Submission statement

Location    

Flight from ORD to EWR   

Date

Dec 16, 2024. 4:51pm - 7:08pm

These are all short clips from a lot of video I took during my flight from Chicago to Newark on 12/16/24. The flashing blue lights were interesting because I was not actually able to see that with my naked eye.

The flight was UA2359.

*more details

Camera: iPhone 16 Pro Max

Didn't notice a reaction from other passengers but I was also glued to my window.

Started noticing the objects ~20m into the flight and then towards the end of the flight. The objects show more detail than I noticed with my naked eye.

I'll post the full uncut video to YouTube tomorrow for everyone's viewing pleasure.

Videos from at 4:51pm - 7:08pm

Here are the full uncut videos. Including here for more visibility;

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oKEink9NYQ

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj5fyxeH6jM

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8PDrabW5lQ

And.....we're fucked......

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16 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

 

Original post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hg2sgs/1216_ua2359_ord_to_ewr/

Submission statement

Location    

Flight from ORD to EWR   

Date

Dec 16, 2024. 4:51pm - 7:08pm

These are all short clips from a lot of video I took during my flight from Chicago to Newark on 12/16/24. The flashing blue lights were interesting because I was not actually able to see that with my naked eye.

The flight was UA2359.

*more details

Camera: iPhone 16 Pro Max

Didn't notice a reaction from other passengers but I was also glued to my window.

Started noticing the objects ~20m into the flight and then towards the end of the flight. The objects show more detail than I noticed with my naked eye.

I'll post the full uncut video to YouTube tomorrow for everyone's viewing pleasure.

Videos from at 4:51pm - 7:08pm

Here are the full uncut videos. Including here for more visibility;

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oKEink9NYQ

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj5fyxeH6jM

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8PDrabW5lQ

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Clearly shows the government drones watching the orbs, that’s exactly why they’re lying to us about it being theirs. Because then we’d ask what they’re flying them for and they’d have to explain, “oh nothing there’s these weird balls of light appearing out of nowhere all over the place shutting down our nukes but don’t worry guys we’re on it”

Sigh.  It's the orbs, man, and the government drone watching them.  

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Here is a drone operator that says if it were civilians, there would have been arrests already, and a statement made by government officials. If it were aliens, or adversaries they likely would not have lights, and the government would be much more alarmed than what they are projecting. He 100% believes it is our own government operating them.

But let's face it. A statement of "The drones are ours. Their mission is classified, but they are there for your protection" would never fly, especially in Jersey.

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2 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

Here is a drone operator that says if it were civilians, there would have been arrests already, and a statement made by government officials. If it were aliens, or adversaries they likely would not have lights, and the government would be much more alarmed than what they are projecting. He 100% believes it is our own government operating them.

But let's face it. A statement of "The drones are ours. Their mission is classified, but they are there for your protection" would never fly, especially in Jersey.

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That’s kinda where I’m at with it also. The drones having lights and we can’t track them? Definitely testing out our new shit.

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On 12/17/2024 at 11:17 AM, Brisketexan said:

The problem with this take is the following fact: 100% of people who back-in park say "I'm super-good at it, I can get it done in an instant," but 99% of them are dead-fucking wrong.  

Signed, someone who regularly gets stuck in a parking lot waiting while someone takes 20 minutes to execute their 300-point back-in parking maneuver and blocks the whole fucking lane.

I don't know when this became such a thing, but it's fucking maddening, because for all the "it's safer and faster" bullshit I hear....I must have the worst luck on earth to always get stuck behind the guy who just can't seem to pull it off without adjusting his angle 5,734 times.

It's a thing now because every shitty-driving soccer mom drives an SUV too big for her to handle (because she's not used to handling big things because she's married to a dipshit with a giant pickup too big for him to handle) and modern SUVs now come with 360-degree backup cameras and these shit drivers feel more comfortable backing in because of those cameras.  If you watch them, they're not looking around them at all but only down at the screen in front of them.

The reality is that backing in has always been the safest option for larger vehicles and is how you should do it.  People who actually know how to drive larger trucks can execute this maneuver with no problem, and in fact find it much easier than pulling in forwards.  In the old days you could usually spot an urban cowboy dipshit because he didn't back his truck into a spot.  The problem now is too many dumbasses drive vehicles much too large for them to handle, but the technology on these beasts has given them the confidence to do things they're not capable of doing well, such as backing into a spot.

I think there should be more driving license classifications than A, B, C, and M.   If we make people take extensive classes and pass tests to get a motorcycle endorsement, we should be doing the same thing for SUVs or pickups that weigh over 3500 lbs. The vast majority of people driving them have no clue what the fuck they're doing and are a menace on the roads and in the parking lots.   A slightly more rigorous licensing process would have 80%+ of the women in giant SUVs and the city dudes in F150s and GMC Sierras driving hatchbacks and sedans again.

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i'm taking a new position

we are experiencing what used to be known as a "UFO flap" which was a series of sightings, sometimes in one location, sometimes across the country

so let's now call them UAPs.......

this phenomenon predates manned flight as the flap of 1896-1897 was documented in hundreds of newspapers across the county

LA 1942 was a single night with a single 'entity' so not technically a flap, just a sighting.... and in that case, a targeting.....

the next flap was 1947 throughout the west, beginning with ken arnold and inclusive of the roswell incident and the phoenix photographs

in the US the other major flap in history was over DC for 3 weeks in july 1952

of course tens of thousands of sightings have 'been reported' worldwide in the last century but it is not often when they happen en-masse in a relatively confined geo-area

most (that we know of) incidents that have been disclosed by military forces around the world including the US Navy happened "by themselves"

other major flaps have occurred around the world, but not reported on in the US MSM for obvious reasons

 

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other points for consideration:

- other than alleged 'abductions' UAPs have never attacked humans.....  cattle... different story..... but humans, not so much

- UAPs ***RARELY*** 'look the same' from sighting to sighting - why is there an almost infinite variety of shapes, sizes, and colors over the past 130 years?

- If we are dealing with a phenomenon that is "technology based" then why do 'them/it/they' want to 'make themselves seen' with the lightshow?

- If they don't emit IR or thermal then they are either 1) very special earth-made items or 2) not exactly real, in the sense that we "see" them optically, but we're looking at something that isn't really "there", either a hologram, projection, or trans-dimensional "thing"

- No one contemplates the idea that they are from "elsewhen" or "elseother" not "elsewhere"

 

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and to drive home the point this shit has been going on for a long time

- Ezekiel saw the wheel:

Ezekiel 1:15–21

Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the earth beside the living creatures, one for each of the four of them. As for the appearance of the wheels and their construction: their appearance was like the gleaming of beryl. And the four had the same likeness, their appearance and construction being as it were a wheel within a wheel. When they went, they went in any of their four directions without turning as they went. And their rims were tall and awesome, and the rims of all four were full of eyes all around. And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures rose from the earth, the wheels rose. Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, and the wheels rose along with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those rose from the earth, the wheels rose along with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.

 

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- Madonna of the Flying Saucer, 1510-1520:

In the Hall of Hercules on the 2nd floor of the Palazzo Vecchio in Firenze is a round painting 1 meter in diameter titled Madonna and Child with the Infant St John

The author is unknown with proposed attributions to Sebastiano Mainardi (d.1513), Jacopo del Sellaio (d.1493) or Filippo Lippi (d.1469)

The painting is dated to "as early as the 16th century" i.e. the 1500s, but if any of the attributions are correct, no later than 1513; the didactic panel next to the painting dates it 1510-1520

there is no wiki for this painting.....

you can read up on it for yourself (links below) but the visuals tell the story, if you are willing to allow yourself to see it:

 

 

image.png.66732a10d42a8c9ee3a5b3e42f3daacb.png

 

 

image.jpeg.505ed8c310d4ad021237fa5da73e9657.jpeg

 

https://www.florenceinferno.com/madonna-of-ufo-painting-palazzo-vecchio/

https://www.theflorentine.net/2019/02/11/undentified-florence-objects/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Vecchio

 

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the battle of nuremburg, 1561

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg

image.thumb.jpeg.e024d89bbcfc2adc7b8e652b406b500a.jpeg

 

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in order to contemplate seeing something from another dimension, this video is useful

the 4th dimension exists in math but we can't 'replicate' it or 'model it' because we live in 3 dimensions

have some carl:

 

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i'll post the review of the 1896-1897 flap later

 

 

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i'm taking a new position

we are experiencing what used to be known as a "UFO flap" which was a series of sightings, sometimes in one location, sometimes across the country

so let's now call them UAPs.......

this phenomenon predates manned flight as the flap of 1896-1897 was documented in hundreds of newspapers across the county

LA 1942 was a single night with a single 'entity' so not technically a flap, just a sighting.... and in that case, a targeting.....

the next flap was 1947 throughout the west, beginning with ken arnold and inclusive of the roswell incident and the phoenix photographs

in the US the other major flap in history was over DC for 3 weeks in july 1952

of course tens of thousands of sightings have 'been reported' worldwide in the last century but it is not often when they happen en-masse in a relatively confined geo-area

most (that we know of) incidents that have been disclosed by military forces around the world including the US Navy happened "by themselves"

other major flaps have occurred around the world, but not reported on in the US MSM for obvious reasons

 

+++

other points for consideration:

- other than alleged 'abductions' UAPs have never attacked humans.....  cattle... different story..... but humans, not so much

- UAPs ***RARELY*** 'look the same' from sighting to sighting - why is there an almost infinite variety of shapes, sizes, and colors over the past 130 years?

- If we are dealing with a phenomenon that is "technology based" then why do 'them/it/they' want to 'make themselves seen' with the lightshow?

- If they don't emit IR or thermal then they are either 1) very special earth-made items or 2) not exactly real, in the sense that we "see" them optically, but we're looking at something that isn't really "there", either a hologram, projection, or trans-dimensional "thing"

- No one contemplates the idea that they are from "elsewhen" or "elseother" not "elsewhere"

 

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and to drive home the point this shit has been going on for a long time

- Ezekiel saw the wheel:

Ezekiel 1:15–21

Now as I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the earth beside the living creatures, one for each of the four of them. As for the appearance of the wheels and their construction: their appearance was like the gleaming of beryl. And the four had the same likeness, their appearance and construction being as it were a wheel within a wheel. When they went, they went in any of their four directions without turning as they went. And their rims were tall and awesome, and the rims of all four were full of eyes all around. And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures rose from the earth, the wheels rose. Wherever the spirit wanted to go, they went, and the wheels rose along with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those rose from the earth, the wheels rose along with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.

 

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- Madonna of the Flying Saucer, 1510-1520:

In the Hall of Hercules on the 2nd floor of the Palazzo Vecchio in Firenze is a round painting 1 meter in diameter titled Madonna and Child with the Infant St John

The author is unknown with proposed attributions to Sebastiano Mainardi (d.1513), Jacopo del Sellaio (d.1493) or Filippo Lippi (d.1469)

The painting is dated to "as early as the 16th century" i.e. the 1500s, but if any of the attributions are correct, no later than 1513; the didactic panel next to the painting dates it 1510-1520

there is no wiki for this painting.....

you can read up on it for yourself (links below) but the visuals tell the story, if you are willing to allow yourself to see it:

 

 

image.png.66732a10d42a8c9ee3a5b3e42f3daacb.png

 

 

image.jpeg.505ed8c310d4ad021237fa5da73e9657.jpeg

 

https://www.florenceinferno.com/madonna-of-ufo-painting-palazzo-vecchio/

https://www.theflorentine.net/2019/02/11/undentified-florence-objects/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Vecchio

 

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the battle of nuremburg, 1561

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg

image.thumb.jpeg.e024d89bbcfc2adc7b8e652b406b500a.jpeg

 

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in order to contemplate seeing something from another dimension, this video is useful

the 4th dimension exists in math but we can't 'replicate' it or 'model it' because we live in 3 dimensions

have some carl:

 

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i'll post the review of the 1896-1897 flap later

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blah blah blah.......

 

ANAL PROBES.

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22 hours ago, Kennythetiger said:

My main pickup is a 3/4 ton crew cab with an 8’ bed. It is the last longbed I will ever own. 

Drive one for a few years recently. In Wyoming, parking was never an issue surprisingly. 
 

in Texas, I just went to empty areas, or looked for spots adjacent to medians or cart corrals or handicapped spots that have extra width.  
 

angled parking obviously helps a lot for all vehicles and drivers, except those that insist on pulling through or backing in, and should be standard practice. 

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53 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i'm going back over to the football board

everyone is busy sucking ourselves off over the 5-score win to come except the last 4 semis have been 1 score games

the drones better not fuck with civilization while we are trying to win a natty

This isn’t a semi though, is it?  How have the last 4 quarterfinals gone?

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On 12/17/2024 at 4:44 PM, crash_davis said:

Original post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hg2sgs/1216_ua2359_ord_to_ewr/

Submission statement

Location    

Flight from ORD to EWR   

Date

Dec 16, 2024. 4:51pm - 7:08pm

These are all short clips from a lot of video I took during my flight from Chicago to Newark on 12/16/24. The flashing blue lights were interesting because I was not actually able to see that with my naked eye.

The flight was UA2359.

*more details

Camera: iPhone 16 Pro Max

Didn't notice a reaction from other passengers but I was also glued to my window.

Started noticing the objects ~20m into the flight and then towards the end of the flight. The objects show more detail than I noticed with my naked eye.

I'll post the full uncut video to YouTube tomorrow for everyone's viewing pleasure.

Videos from at 4:51pm - 7:08pm

Here are the full uncut videos. Including here for more visibility;

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oKEink9NYQ

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj5fyxeH6jM

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8PDrabW5lQ

let's debunk a 'sighting'

videos 2 & 3 are of venus

as stated this 'sighting' (in the 1st video) began 20 minutes in to a flight from ORD to EWR so these lights were somewhere over southern lake michigan / northern indiana, not jersey

the spacing and descent patterns indicate commercial traffic forming up for the landing pattern at ORD which has 8 runways and lands 4 simultaneously

are any of the lights 'stationary' and/or 'hovering' it's hard say but my money is this flight took off to the west and circled clockwise to the north and east and what is shown in the video is the east-to-west landing pattern for ORD forming up over southern lake michigan

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On 12/18/2024 at 3:13 PM, Hagbard Celine said:

i'm going back over to the football board

everyone is busy sucking ourselves off over the 5-score win to come except the last 4 semis have been 1 score games

the drones better not fuck with civilization while we are trying to win a natty

Negged for using the term “natty”. 

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