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10 hours ago, chainsaw said:

are they priorities for transplants though?

Transplant priority doesn't have a thing to do with the underlying cause of the transplant anymore.  It's all based on what is called a MELD score.  Higher the number, the higher the priority.  
I've become somewhat of an expert on the subject unfortunately. 

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2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Sounds like carbon monoxide.

If that is what is discovered, wouldn't surprise me. We have semi-annual HVAC checks with a local business and several years ago I was having a ton of headaches (no, not for THAT reason) as were some family members and discovered that we had an issue in our system. Fixed it and all was good. Getting that air checked is important.

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4 minutes ago, SameSame said:

Seems like Gene Hackman is big enough for us to give him his own thread.  I’m just too lazy.

We should have a conversation about it.

If it doesn’t happen, we’ll all be unforgiven.

Posted
19 hours ago, Goofyboy said:

Oof. Liver transplant recipient. Apparently those have a high death rate. She was awesome in EuroTrip.

Didn't she play a character who had some organ transplant on a House episode or something?

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3 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

My wife worked in the ICU unit at Houston Methodist that specialized in liver transplants. Her stories were... unpleasant.

How so?

The reason I ask is that my father in law recently died of fatty liver disease.  He was never a drinker but had a lifetime of eating shitty southern food.  Fuck of a way to go, too.

Anyway, he was on the transplant list but too old (78).  What made the stories unpleasant?  Did the surgeries go badly?

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Sorry to hear that. It's been a few years so I don't remember many specifics. But it was one of the premier locations in the world for liver transplants, so they got the roughest shit. Liver patients tend to be incredibly sick, they get very mentally altered, they bleed horribly. And I think usually every organ system gets so fucked by the time they get transplants that it's not like they usually go on to live anything resembling a normal life.

They took care of non-surgical candidates as well. And as you noted, watching someone pass of liver disease, alcoholic or not, is a difficult thing to witness.

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58 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Liver patients tend to be incredibly sick, they get very mentally altered, they bleed horribly.

One of the two worst ICU deaths I’ve seen was a liver failure (from alcoholism). The guy had completely shut down his liver and basically third spaced blood and fluid into his gut and extremities until I thought his abdomen was going to explode. Dude was bleeding out of every orrifice and ended up “exploding” enough red blood cells to wack his potassium into causing cardiac arrest. Miserable way to die although his ammonia levels had put him into lala land anyway.

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3 hours ago, Newdoc said:

One of the two worst ICU deaths I’ve seen was a liver failure (from alcoholism). The guy had completely shut down his liver and basically third spaced blood and fluid into his gut and extremities until I thought his abdomen was going to explode. Dude was bleeding out of every orrifice and ended up “exploding” enough red blood cells to wack his potassium into causing cardiac arrest. Miserable way to die although his ammonia levels had put him into lala land anyway.

My alcoholic FIL died that way 42 years ago (3 months afterhis wife). 
Left a bloody mess in his house - from the bedroom to the bathroom.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Damn rip Gene 

One of my favorite actors.

Death seems a little suspicious. Wonder what the toxicology report will show. Apparently there were pills scattered about. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, CleverNickname said:

is there anoth3r Gene thread?

Whi died first: Gene or spouse? Did she die days or weeks before and GH was too out of it? I'm guessing one way or the other the dog ate some pills.

Four-page thread at the top of Movies & TV

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On 2/26/2025 at 3:07 PM, LCHorn said:

I’m speculating and haven’t seen any gossip at all about this, but I bet it’s prescription opiates.  You just don’t see a lot of liver failure, even with alcohol abuse, at such young an age.  

It's not the opiates, it's the acetaminophen mixed in with them.

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