Texas 2025 SEC schedule

[Zeus 6753]

8 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I thought the sec switched up the scheduling every year so everyone is playing each other? 

Yeah it was always doing to be a home and home then figure it out after. 

This is why they ended divisions and didn’t release a clear scheduling intent, because it is always changing. 

My guess is the big conferences move to 9 games so there’s less bitching about easy schedules. 
 

Even with 9 it’s kind of bogus because look at Colorado in the rig12. 
 

They played noneof the top 3 teams in the league, beat Baylor on a Hail Mary. 
 

I guess it’s ok because their “bowl game” will be another big12 game to decide the coulda shoulda been in the big12 championship game.

[Huckleberry 34407]

I wonder if teams will move away from scheduling OOC games so far out in the future.

Let's say the SEC someday does the right thing and goes to a 3+6 rotation. Our 3 would of course be OU, A&M, and Arkansas. What if our two rotating sets of 6 are

Alabama, Florida, Mississippi State, Missouri, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
and
Auburn, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, South Carolina

this is actually done evenly based on all-time SEC records. Obviously wouldn't work out that well but let's go with it. Now imagine a decade from now if one of those two sets is MUCH stronger than the other set. Programs ebb and flow and it's certainly possible. Let's say that Florida pulls its head out and Alabama stays great under Deboer and Heupel puts it all together and so the top set has three top 10 teams in it. And at the same time Kiffin is fired for banging the school president's daughter, LSU continues being poor and goes downhill, and Smart is banned for life for assaulting opposing players on the sideline so the second set is pure garbage with one team in the top 25. 

So as you're setting up your 3 out of conference games for those seasons wouldn't it make a lot of sense to configure your two "premier P4 OOC opponents" to be Oregon while you're playing the bottom set and Nebraska while you're playing the top set? Otherwise you're just completely leaving schedule strength talk outside of your control.

Although after having typed that you could do everything right then Jim Harbaugh leaves and goes to the NFL.

[TrashMaster G 18030]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Jesus H. Christ stop with the stupid nicknames. Makes your posts immediate scroll-bys.

100% this.

Please take that shit over to SECRant.

Or, shite, I guess. 🤬

[jetsfan76 779]

I wish we could trade LSU or Georgia as a "permanent" rival for fucking aggy.

[mdmost 43850]

But we aren't rivals with those teams, Lt. Dan. 

[TrashMaster G 18030]

4 minutes ago, jetsfan76 said:

I wish we could trade LSU or Georgia as a "permanent" rival for fucking aggy.

Georgia? Every year?

Fuck those fucks.

[mdmost 43850]

54 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I wonder if teams will move away from scheduling OOC games so far out in the future.

Let's say the SEC someday does the right thing and goes to a 3+6 rotation. Our 3 would of course be OU, A&M, and Arkansas. What if our two rotating sets of 6 are

Alabama, Florida, Mississippi State, Missouri, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
and
Auburn, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Ole Miss, South Carolina

this is actually done evenly based on all-time SEC records. Obviously wouldn't work out that well but let's go with it. Now imagine a decade from now if one of those two sets is MUCH stronger than the other set. Programs ebb and flow and it's certainly possible. Let's say that Florida pulls its head out and Alabama stays great under Deboer and Heupel puts it all together and so the top set has three top 10 teams in it. And at the same time Kiffin is fired for banging the school president's daughter, LSU continues being poor and goes downhill, and Smart is banned for life for assaulting opposing players on the sideline so the second set is pure garbage with one team in the top 25. 

So as you're setting up your 3 out of conference games for those seasons wouldn't it make a lot of sense to configure your two "premier P4 OOC opponents" to be Oregon while you're playing the bottom set and Nebraska while you're playing the top set? Otherwise you're just completely leaving schedule strength talk outside of your control.

Although after having typed that you could do everything right then Jim Harbaugh leaves and goes to the NFL.

I'm not sure. We just signed up for a 2028-2029 home and home with Notre Dame. We only have UTSA in 2030 and UTEP in 2031. I would think if we're going to continue to lose a home game every time we're the home team at Texas OU that we'll look to add an extra home game and that would require a home and home be setup to ensure we're not going on the road and losing a home game like this year. That's part of why our home schedule is so bad/light this year. We're going away to Ohio State but not going away again in the OOC until 2028 with Notre Dame. I would love us to continue playing good OOC games but I can see everyone cutting back, especially Big 10 teams. So our good OOC games would probably need to be ACC or lower tier Big 10 teams. There was talk of a Clemson home and home but it never materialized. Maybe our playoff game will change some minds. My hope is the Big 10/SEC agree to some form of cross challenge so it raises the SOS of both conferences. I would kill for a home and home with Oregon or Washington. 

[n64ra 1149]

All home games in Sept and all non-home games in Oct is weird.

[Ignatius 4125]

19 hours ago, Pimphand said:

Having driven from both Louisville and Cincinnati to Lexington.

Let me just state bourbon trail >>>>>> skyline chili

The drive is definitely more scenic from Louisville, and only about 15 minutes longer. Flying from anywhere in Texas you’ll probably get better fares/more options into Cincinnati (whose airport is actually in Kentucky)…

[Dnaguy 12572]

19 hours ago, Pimphand said:

Having driven from both Louisville and Cincinnati to Lexington.

Let me just state bourbon trail >>>>>> skyline chili

Never been to Kentucky. Never been to Ohio.

I have tried skyline chili … but I can’t remember where.

The closest thing I can compare it to is a back alley dog abortion in culinary form.

[DeArbol 0]

9 hours ago, ATLLonghorn said:

UCLA sucks, but Georgia was supposed to go out and play them in the Rose Bowl to open the season next year with a return game in Athens in 2026. They replaced them with Marshall. They cited "changes in the college football landscape" as the reason why, meaning they knew they were going to play either Texas or Oklahoma in conference and on paper either option seemed ok at the time (OU sucks lol) so they added an easier game to the non-con like a bunch of pussies.

Why the two schools backed out

Both teams are facing more difficult conference schedules than they anticipated long ago. UCLA is joining the Big Ten this year and will have a nine-game conference schedule. For a program about to deal with conference games against the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin, having to face Georgia was perhaps not ideal, though the Bruins have added future home-and-homes with Utah and Cal with their Pac-12 departure imminent.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5482079/2024/07/10/georgia-ucla-cancel-football-series/

I don't think Georgia is afraid of Ucla.

[Dnaguy 12572]

3 minutes ago, DeArbol said:

Why the two schools backed out

Both teams are facing more difficult conference schedules than they anticipated long ago. UCLA is joining the Big Ten this year and will have a nine-game conference schedule. For a program about to deal with conference games against the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin, having to face Georgia was perhaps not ideal, though the Bruins have added future home-and-homes with Utah and Cal with their Pac-12 departure imminent.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5482079/2024/07/10/georgia-ucla-cancel-football-series/

I don't think Georgia is afraid of Ucla.

The 9 game schedule had nothing to do with it.

The Pac12 had a 9 game scheudle.

UCLA was about to get paid by joining the B1G and didn’t need that Georgia $ and a guaranteed ‘L’ anymore. 
Simple as that.

[6th Street 6654]

Booked a hotel room in Gainesville for weekend of Oct 4. Always wanted to check out The Swamp and have no desire to return to Columbus.

[surlyatxlonghorn 0]

5 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Booked a hotel room in Gainesville for weekend of Oct 4. Always wanted to check out The Swamp and have no desire to return to Columbus.

Just reserved flights to columbus.  Is that a bad experience or just not a fan of the town?

[markstanco 12773]

Where does one fly into for Georgia? Atlanta? I don’t see a United Houston to Athens flight. 
Same question for Lexington, KY. 

Check out flights to Greenville sc as well. Only about a 30 minute difference in drive time iirc. I used to go to Athens to see a customer and gville was a cheaper flight most of the time. Plus, rental cars that weekend in Atlanta will be at a premium for obvious reasons.

[TrashMaster G 18030]

30 minutes ago, surlyatxlonghorn said:

Just reserved flights to columbus.  Is that a bad experience or just not a fan of the town?

All reports from Horn fans that made the trip in '05 were that fans there were a bunch of miserable cunts.

[garrett01 49]

5 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

All reports from Horn fans that made the trip in '05 were that fans there were a bunch of miserable cunts.

Didn’t make the Columbus trip.  But I had some interactions with their fans after the 2009 Fiesta Bowl.  They were angry, bitter, and trashy.  Even before the game… not interesting or fun in any way.  

[6th Street 6654]

1 hour ago, surlyatxlonghorn said:

Just reserved flights to columbus.  Is that a bad experience or just not a fan of the town?

Worst "fans" I've ever experienced and it's not even close. Degenerates trying to pick fights, throwing full beers at people, middle fingers everywhere, etc. Some students, some fans, and some just white trash locals living vicariously through their local sports team. Would never go back to that shithole.

[CO Horn 172]

On 12/11/2024 at 7:26 PM, HenryJames said:

Give us some Lexington recs.

Upscale

Tony's

Jeff Ruby's

Malone's

Merrick Inn

Little Less

Carson's

Frank & Dino's

Giuseppe's

Pasta Garage

 

 

[BigHornedLurker 2108]

25 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Worst "fans" I've ever experienced and it's not even close. Degenerates trying to pick fights, throwing full beers at people, middle fingers everywhere, etc. Some students, some fans, and some just white trash locals living vicariously through their local sports team. Would never go back to that shithole.

What about the bad parts? 

[Hagbard Celine 11159]

7 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Jesus H. Christ stop with the stupid nicknames. Makes your posts immediate scroll-bys.

put me on ignore

[Hagbard Celine 11159]

7 hours ago, mdmost said:

Not compared to the team we've already shown we've had a difficult time beating who hasn't lost a home game since I believe 2019. Georgia will absolutely be the hardest game of the season. 

We may not get Arkansas every year but we for sure will keep aggy on the schedule since Texas OU is always in October. We don't need the dumb repeat of the time after we stopped playing aggy where our "rivalry" game was a rotation of rivals only in the minds of those teams coming to Austin. Everyone else has a rivalry game that weekend. Ours will be aggy. 

i'll take lsu on T+1 thank you

aggy can rot in hell

will the gallery grant me the privilege of calling aggy aggy?

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

23 hours ago, Napoleon said:

 

 

We have our Fantasy Football draft in a different location each year and did Louisville in 2021. 

Saw an RV in the parking lot of one of the places. It was fairly impressive.

I would suggest that you book a private tour at PEERLESS Distilling. The bourbon was fantastic, it’s about a half block from the Louisville Slugger museum…

…and the tasting room was outstanding.

We wished that we could have booked it for our draft, but no.

Muhammad Ali Center is also pretty cool, but it is as much of a civil rights museum as it is a Muhammad Ali museum, so it’s not for everyone… like bourbon is. 

We didn’t try everything…

…

That is absolutely epic

16 hours ago, ATLLonghorn said:

Athens is a really cool college town and it's a fun place to watch a game.

So if you're going to go to the Georgia game next year I will say this: book a hotel room as soon as you can. For a college town, they don't have a ton of hotel space. When they have big games hotel rooms go fast and can be expensive the longer you wait.

Just sleep in a tent. People will think you're homeless and leave you alone. 

[Hermanator 7570]

19 hours ago, yoladu said:

home games next year are craptastic

• San Jose State
• UTEP
• Sam Houston State
• Vanderbilt
• Arkansas
• Aggy

 

and Georgia's non conference schedule is a joke

• Marshall

• Austin Peay

• Charlotte

• Georgia Tech

We absolutely need to stop scheduling the difficult non conference games, and save one of the cupcakes for November. 

Committee this year proved record is more important than SOS with that SMU over Alabama, SC, and Miss pick. We'll get those marquee big time matchups back at the end of the season in the playoffs in a lot of years. 

[Dahobbs 18185]

1 hour ago, Hermanator said:

We absolutely need to stop scheduling the difficult non conference games, and save one of the cupcakes for November. 

Committee this year proved record is more important than SOS with that SMU over Alabama, SC, and Miss pick. We'll get those marquee big time matchups back at the end of the season in the playoffs in a lot of years. 

No. Just no. I mean hell fucking no. Alabama got tossed because they got pounded by OU. I'll bet you had that at least been a tight loss or had SMU gotten blown out by Clemson, Alabama is in. No fucking way does a team getting blown out by that OU team (that couldn't even blow out Houston) deserve to be in the playoffs. I don't give a damn about their strength of schedule at that point. 

[Js1 86939]

6 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

No. Just no. I mean hell fucking no. Alabama got tossed because they got pounded by OU. I'll bet you had that at least been a tight loss or had SMU gotten blown out by Clemson, Alabama is in. No fucking way does a team getting blown out by that OU team (that couldn't even blow out Houston) deserve to be in the playoffs. I don't give a damn about their strength of schedule at that point. 

Someone on Reddit compared it to gymnastics. You have a higher ceiling if you schedule tough / try a harder routine and it gives you some wiggle room if you stumble. But if you schedule weak / go for the easiest routine and fuck up, that’s on you

Bama stumbled doing basic routines (Vandy and OU) and that’s why they didn’t get in 

Edited Friday at 01:45 PM by Js1

[Duane Moore 5636]

On 12/11/2024 at 11:02 PM, futureman said:

you can also fly to Augusta if you want to avoid Atlanta.  bout 30 extra minutes on the road though. 

 

10 hours ago, markstanco said:

Check out flights to Greenville sc as well. Only about a 30 minute difference in drive time iirc. I used to go to Athens to see a customer and gville was a cheaper flight most of the time. Plus, rental cars that weekend in Atlanta will be at a premium for obvious reasons.

I haven’t double checked the extra driving times cited, but it will absolutely take more than 30 minutes from getting off the plane in ATL to the time you drive off the rental lot. That is a second journey all in itself at ATL. Love those small airports where you can walk off the plane and straight to the exit where the rental lot is right there. 
 

Would also highly recommend staying in Greenville, it’s just a gem of a small southern city with a great downtown area. 

[boilerhorn 1602]

I've had bad experiences w/ tOSU fans in Austin and West Lafayette.  I cannot imagine how bad it would be actually in Columbus.

Been to Columbus for kid college trips.  I liked the place, people were great, etc., which was a total surprise based on how my fellow fans and I have been treated by theirs.

That said, if we fans stop traveling to away games at tOSU, aren't we letting the terrorists win?

[Lidig8r 1904]

10 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

All reports from Horn fans that made the trip in '05 were that fans there were a bunch of miserable cunts.

I did something nefarious to some Buckeye fans in 2006.

We lost the game and I was down on 6th Street making my way toward the more then, civilized 4th Street area with the now, Ex-Mrs. Lid - The Sequel. Started talking with two married Buckeye couples ... no buckeyes around their neck, about my age (mid to late 40s).  They were gracious, intelligent, not thrilled about 6th street.  So, I told them to go to a jazz club on 4th street since that is where we were headed. Gave them directions.

After they walked off, 4 stereotypical Bucknut dudes walk up... intoxicated, Bucknut jerseys, Bucknuts around the neck.  One of them loudly mumbles out... "Dude! We like your lady!  Can you tell us where we can go to find hot chicks who look like her!"  I said, "Sure. There is this place called Oil Can Harry's. It's on 4th Street. You will find exactly what you are looking for there!  Now, on game nights, the cover charge can be a bit steep but what you will find on the inside is well worth the price and right up your alley."

Their response? "Fuckin' A Dude. Go Buckeyes!"

I hope they enjoyed their time there.

[Reynolds Woodcock 5064]

I wasn’t in college yet in 05, but I went to the fiesta bowl in 09, and those fuck nuts were real assholes 

[Dahobbs 18185]

11 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

All reports from Horn fans that made the trip in '05 were that fans there were a bunch of miserable cunts.

Yes and no. Yes, we got flipped off by fire fighters in a fire truck in the middle of the day for wearing orange. Yes, people talked trash a lot. Yes, a drunk did a diving charge at one of us. Yes, some asshole tried to fight me in a bathroom. Yes, an entire bar taunted me yelling "who is the asshole" when I walked in (hammered mind you). But, I also fired back by starting their OH IO chants and adding sucks on the end. And I didn't pay for a drink that night as people lined up the bar with shots for me. I was also I told "I hate you, I hate your school, but you got balls." So, yes, assholes and cunts. But also, mainly just people looking to have fun. They just don't have our southern/southwestern sense of hospitality and veneer of kindness. What I'm saying is that I had fun there and would definitely go back if we played again. 

[txduck87 1020]

Worst "fans" I've ever experienced and it's not even close. Degenerates trying to pick fights, throwing full beers at people, middle fingers everywhere, etc. Some students, some fans, and some just white trash locals living vicariously through their local sports team. Would never go back to that shithole.

+1
All of the above is true. They also slashed a bunch of tires at a hotel the Texas exes were staying at. Just a miserable bunch of humans. I’d go to college station again before I’d ever set foot in Columbus again. And finally, their women are fat and ugly.

VY and limas had the last word, but couldn’t get out of that shithole town fast enough. Hook ‘em

[markstanco 12773]

Ive never been to a game in Columbus, but I reached out to my sales rep who went there and lives in columbus to go to the game with him. 

[Gordon Shumway 519]

10 hours ago, 6th Street said:

Worst "fans" I've ever experienced and it's not even close. Degenerates trying to pick fights, throwing full beers at people, middle fingers everywhere, etc. Some students, some fans, and some just white trash locals living vicariously through their local sports team. Would never go back to that shithole.

This I was there in '05 and can confirm this.  The fans were absolute trash.  Will never go back to that shithole.

[SubliminalHorn 6995]

2 hours ago, Lidig8r said:

I hope they enjoyed their time there.

Oh they did 💅🏽

Edited Friday at 04:05 PM by SubliminalHorn

[Js1 86939]

3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Oh they did 💅🏽

Blowies for Buckeyes? 

[Cap33 406]

2 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

 

I haven’t double checked the extra driving times cited, but it will absolutely take more than 30 minutes from getting off the plane in ATL to the time you drive off the rental lot. That is a second journey all in itself at ATL. Love those small airports where you can walk off the plane and straight to the exit where the rental lot is right there. 
 

Would also highly recommend staying in Greenville, it’s just a gem of a small southern city with a great downtown area. 

This is very good advice, particularly if you can fly direct into Greenville. ATL traffic and airport are a huge time suck and can easily add another hour to your trip.

Athens hotels will be hard to get, and they're probably booked already. When we've visited my kid there, I've had success calling the hotel directly and getting a room when it shows sold out online.

[Hermanator 7570]

2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

No. Just no. I mean hell fucking no. Alabama got tossed because they got pounded by OU. I'll bet you had that at least been a tight loss or had SMU gotten blown out by Clemson, Alabama is in. No fucking way does a team getting blown out by that OU team (that couldn't even blow out Houston) deserve to be in the playoffs. I don't give a damn about their strength of schedule at that point. 

It has nothing to do with Alabama itself. If has to do with the committee's choices telling us what they value. Alabama's SOS was in the top 10. South Carolina's in the top 20, and Mississippi around 30. SMU was down around 60s to 70. 

Our schedule will be rough enough with the SEC conference play where we don't need an extra difficult game added. We need the extra guaranteed banked win. That still gives us most years 2 conference games we can slip up, the exact same number of games as it would be if we play one difficult OOC matchup. We just risk that matchup being 1 of the 2 we can afford to lose.  

I don't care about September. I want to see big matchups in December and January. 

[Armybrat 41319]

16 hours ago, n64ra said:

All home games in Sept and all non-home games in Oct is weird.

CDC needs to tell the TV schedulers that September games in Austin HAVE to be at night because it is a critical health issue for hundreds (or more) of fans in attendance. 
That is no joking matter.

[BigHornedLurker 2108]

1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

It has nothing to do with Alabama itself. If has to do with the committee's choices telling us what they value. Alabama's SOS was in the top 10. South Carolina's in the top 20, and Mississippi around 30. SMU was down around 60s to 70. 

Our schedule will be rough enough with the SEC conference play where we don't need an extra difficult game added. We need the extra guaranteed banked win. That still gives us most years 2 conference games we can slip up, the exact same number of games as it would be if we play one difficult OOC matchup. We just risk that matchup being 1 of the 2 we can afford to lose.  

I don't care about September. I want to see big matchups in December and January. 

Counter Point, I like watching Tennessee get in and around the SEC Championship. 

Take next season, we have a good road win against Ohio State, we can drop an SEC game miss the Championship and still get into the playoffs 

[Hermanator 7570]

5 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Counter Point, I like watching Tennessee get in and around the SEC Championship. 

Take next season, we have a good road win against Ohio State, we can drop an SEC game miss the Championship and still get into the playoffs 

Tennessee is a good example. 

Their SOS was 49. Their non con was pure garbage. Chattanooga, NC St, Kent St, and UTEP. They lose 2 conference games and made the playoffs. 

Our brand is big enough and our conference the most difficult top to bottom in the country. We didn't need the extra tough win. Someone like SMU is who should have needed it with such a bad SOS, but even they didn't need it. 

It's just an unnecessary risk to get one of the 2 losses you can afford to take in September. 

Next season if we don't walk into Columbus, with a green QB who only has a few starts, and beat that team, we then can only afford 1 loss during the entire SEC schedule. We'll have to run it like we did this year. Could afford 2 if we had New Mexico or Alabama St scheduled instead. 

[Dahobbs 18185]

24 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

It has nothing to do with Alabama itself. If has to do with the committee's choices telling us what they value. Alabama's SOS was in the top 10. South Carolina's in the top 20, and Mississippi around 30. SMU was down around 60s to 70. 

Our schedule will be rough enough with the SEC conference play where we don't need an extra difficult game added. We need the extra guaranteed banked win. That still gives us most years 2 conference games we can slip up, the exact same number of games as it would be if we play one difficult OOC matchup. We just risk that matchup being 1 of the 2 we can afford to lose.  

I don't care about September. I want to see big matchups in December and January. 

 

10 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Tennessee is a good example. 

Their SOS was 49. Their non con was pure garbage. Chattanooga, NC St, Kent St, and UTEP. They lose 2 conference games and made the playoffs. 

Our brand is big enough and our conference the most difficult top to bottom in the country. We didn't need the extra tough win. Someone like SMU is who should have needed it with such a bad SOS, but even they didn't need it. 

It's just an unnecessary risk to get one of the 2 losses you can afford to take in September. 

Next season if we don't walk into Columbus, with a green QB who only has a few starts, and beat that team, we then can only afford 1 loss during the entire SEC schedule. We'll have to run it like we did this year. Could afford 2 if we had New Mexico or Alabama St scheduled instead. 

Stop. Please stop. 

We got in the playoffs last year because we played a good schedule. I want to see our team play good teams, regular season and post season. If Alabama had 3 losses to good teams by small margins, its probably in over SMU due to schedule. But losses still have to matter. You can't lose to that putrid OU team and complain you didn't make the playoffs. You can't lose to that putrid Kentucky team and complain you didn't make the playoffs. The only one of those three I feel any bit of sympathy for is South Carolina. Other than Ole Miss, their losses were competitive to decent teams (LSU?). But, I'd also say maybe if their non-conference schedule wasn't such dog shit, 5-7 Old Dominion, 4-8 Akron, and fucking 5-7 FCS Wofford in November, they would have still gotten in. I mean fuck, I think anyone who fucking plays an FCS squad should have it automatically counted as loss on their schedule. 

Those teams weren't punished because they had more losses. They were punished and left out because they had bad losses. You lose to bad teams, you sure as fuck better not do it multiple times. 

[Knoxtnhorn 6262]

17 hours ago, Dnaguy said:

Never been to Kentucky. Never been to Ohio.

I have tried skyline chili … but I can’t remember where.

The closest thing I can compare it to is a back alley dog abortion in culinary form.

My students are wondering why I just burst out laughing while they are taking a test.  Thanks.  😆

[dcar00 14902]

45 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

 

Stop. Please stop. 

We got in the playoffs last year because we played a good schedule. I want to see our team play good teams, regular season and post season. If Alabama had 3 losses to good teams by small margins, its probably in over SMU due to schedule. But losses still have to matter. You can't lose to that putrid OU team and complain you didn't make the playoffs. You can't lose to that putrid Kentucky team and complain you didn't make the playoffs. The only one of those three I feel any bit of sympathy for is South Carolina. Other than Ole Miss, their losses were competitive to decent teams (LSU?). But, I'd also say maybe if their non-conference schedule wasn't such dog shit, 5-7 Old Dominion, 4-8 Akron, and fucking 5-7 FCS Wofford in November, they would have still gotten in. I mean fuck, I think anyone who fucking plays an FCS squad should have it automatically counted as loss on their schedule. 

Those teams weren't punished because they had more losses. They were punished and left out because they had bad losses. You lose to bad teams, you sure as fuck better not do it multiple times. 

ha. the Notre Dame qualifier.  

Sure you can want us to schedule very good programs(I use that term because you never know what team you will get, see Michigan) out of conference, but the loss column still rules all...see this years playoffs.

Last year was unique.  The committee had a problem only because we played and beat Bama.  they can't put Bama/SEC champ in and not us.  they can't put us in and not the SEC champ whose only loss was to us.

Had we played and beat Oregon(a similarly pretty good team), we are out and FSU is in.

I'm fine with playing very good programs but the reality is that if you lose to tOSU vs. playing say KSU or BYU and win that loss to tOSU is going to hurt way way worse if there is a cut line of 2 loss and 3 loss teams.  They don't really consider bad losses nearly as much as they should.  They only gave it to SMU because they came within an eyelash of winning.  If SMU loses by 7 to 10 in regulation I bet they are out.

These committee guys are just an extension of the old school polls - "First, I separate teams by number of losses".  Oregon had a pretty marginal SOS and no one would ever drop them from the 1 spot.  why? because they were in a tier of their own based on the number in the loss column.

[Dahobbs 18185]

16 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

ha. the Notre Dame qualifier.  

Sure you can want us to schedule very good programs(I use that term because you never know what team you will get, see Michigan) out of conference, but the loss column still rules all...see this years playoffs.

Last year was unique.  The committee had a problem only because we played and beat Bama.  they can't put Bama/SEC champ in and not us.  they can't put us in and not the SEC champ whose only loss was to us.

Had we played and beat Oregon(a similarly pretty good team), we are out and FSU is in.

I'm fine with playing very good programs but the reality is that if you lose to tOSU vs. playing say KSU or BYU and win that loss to tOSU is going to hurt way way worse if there is a cut line of 2 loss and 3 loss teams.  They don't really consider bad losses nearly as much as they should.  They only gave it to SMU because they came within an eyelash of winning.  If SMU loses by 7 to 10 in regulation I bet they are out.

These committee guys are just an extension of the old school polls - "First, I separate teams by number of losses".  Oregon had a pretty marginal SOS and no one would ever drop them from the 1 spot.  why? because they were in a tier of their own based on the number in the loss column.

That is a false narrative. 1 loss Army is out because of SOS. 2 Loss Miami is out because of SOS. 2 loss BYU is out because of SOS. 2 loss Memphis is out because of SOS. 2 loss Tennessee, 2 loss Ohio State, 2 loss Georgia, 2 loss Penn State, and 2 loss Texas are seeded above multiple one loss teams and two loss teams because of SOS. The only reason Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina are even in the conversation is because of SOS. If any of those have only 2 losses, they get in over any other 2 loss teams. If Alabama hadn't lost in a fucking blow out against a bad team, it probably gets in over SMU because of SOS. No one is crying about 3 loss Illinois or 3 loss Colorado or 3 loss Syracuse or 3 loss Duke or 3 loss Iowa State (with only 2 losses in the regular season) because of, you guessed it, SOS. 

Edited Friday at 06:17 PM by Dahobbs

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4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

That is a false narrative. 1 loss Army is out because of SOS. 2 Loss Miami is out because of SOS. 2 loss BYU is out because of SOS. 2 loss Memphis is out because of SOS. 2 loss Tennessee, 2 loss Ohio State, 2 loss Georgia, 2 loss Penn State, and 2 loss Texas are seeded above multiple one loss teams and two loss teams because of SOS. The only reason Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina are even in the conversation is because of SOS. If any of those have only 2 losses, they get in over any other 2 loss teams. If Alabama hadn't lost in a fucking blow out against a bad team, it probably gets in over SMU because of SOS. No one is crying about 3 loss Illinois or 3 loss Colorado or 3 loss Syracuse or 3 loss Duke or 3 loss Iowa State (with only 2 losses in the regular season) because of, you guessed it, SOS. 

nah. you know Memphis and Army don't count and they never have.  Bama, Ole Miss, and USCe are SECSECSEC.  Miami and BYU are out because ACC/BIG12. The playoff is all 2 Loss teams(or less) except for the 3 Loss team that won its CCG. why would you risk a loss when it is sorted by number of losses?

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1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

nah. you know Memphis and Army don't count and they never have.  Bama, Ole Miss, and USCe are SECSECSEC.  Miami and BYU are out because ACC/BIG12. The playoff is all 2 Loss teams(or less) except for the 3 Loss team that won its CCG. why would you risk a loss when it is sorted by number of losses?

So other than the times SOS clearly comes into play in eliminating one or two loss teams or in seeding two loss teams over one loss teams, it doesn't come into play. Ok. It only looks like it sorted by number of losses because of how many teams had two losses or less losses. Again, Bama is probably in if they lose a heart breaker to OU. Don't get blown out by bad teams is the lesson here.  

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

So other than the times SOS clearly comes into play in eliminating one or two loss teams or in seeding two loss teams over one loss teams, it doesn't come into play. Ok. It only looks like it sorted by number of losses because of how many teams had two losses or less losses. Again, Bama is probably in if they lose a heart breaker to OU. Don't get blown out by bad teams is the lesson here.  

If Bama beats Tenn but loses the same way to Vandy/OU.  who is in?  SMU or Bama?

To be clear, with 16/17 team conferences, I'd prefer 10 conf games for everyone now, with 2 OOC.  And I know Texas will continue to schedule a high level program OOC when we have 3 or 4 OOC. I'm fine with that but it doesn't take away from the obvious sorting procedure that has been going on for 90+ years.

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46 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

If Bama beats Tenn but loses the same way to Vandy/OU.  who is in?  SMU or Bama?

Both and Tenn is out.

What are you even arguing?  The answer is to schedule tough games and win them.  If you aren't good enough and try to hide behind cupcakes you'll lose early in the playoff anyway.

Edited Friday at 07:25 PM by WBT

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6 minutes ago, WBT said:

Both and Tenn is out.

What are you even arguing?  The answer is to schedule tough games and win them.  If you aren't good enough and try to hide behind cupcakes you'll lose early in the playoff anyway.

we are talking about making the playoff not about winning the playoff.  and to your point above, Indiana didn't have to.