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In an enormous political gaffe, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo told an audience "America was never that great."

Kiss the 2020 Democratic presidential campaign of NY governor Andrew Cuomo goodbye.

His comment America 'Was Never That Great' drew laughs and gasps from the crowd today.

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https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/dumbest-political-comment-ever-n-y-gov-cuomo-america-was-never-that-great-ez-WeICcjEC2jPHcDOVx3w/

 

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19 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

“YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT” is held as the dumbest but I actually don’t mind that and see his point. I also see Cuomo’s point but I guess we can’t be honest and call the baby ugly because it’s all about feelings

“You didn’t build that” was only a stupid political comment only because such a huge percentage of the voting electorate is too stupid to understand how much of their own success is due to being born into a peaceful, functioning economy built by innumerable others.  Warren was right.  

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22 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I vaguely remember something about a wall and Mexico paying for it.  And a Space Force and a 1,000 other things I'd rather not remember.

Oh, but they mustn't ever be forgotten lest we strive to allow the dotard to stay where he's at and keep making the same salacious comments in question.

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You didnt build that was only stupid for phrasing it in a way that allowed the billions of pundits that now infest this planet to so easily and mindlessly take it completely out of context.  

 

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me – because they want to give something back. They know they didn't – look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires

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Appreciate the responses so far.  So many great contenders.

J.R. - your point might have some validity if the quote were "you didn't build that on your own".  The actual quote (and succeeding sentence) is very offensive to anyone who has braved risks and put in the blood, sweat and tears in building a successful enterprise.  It's a gaffe in any reasonable light.

And really, in the context of a "dumb political comment", the whole point is that the comment provides fodder for critics/adversaries. 

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34 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Guam tipping over FTW

Trump tries so hard to be the dumbest motherfucker in the room (who am I kidding, he doesn't have to try)  ...  but the Guam quote is gonna be really hard to beat.  A lot of the alt-right stupidity would beat it, but the tea party republicans just don't have the balls to say it out loud.

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31 minutes ago, bernorange said:

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/dumbest-political-comment-ever-n-y-gov-cuomo-america-was-never-that-great-ez-WeICcjEC2jPHcDOVx3w/

 

Didn't seem to hurt Trump much when he put us in the same league as murdering Putin. I guess it's okay if GOPs hate America while making it great again.

24 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

We are a constant stream of drivel congratulating ourselves on our generosity, greatness, and how we are the envy of the world. Her mistake about Japan is the cherry on top of the bullshit self-aggrandizement we feed ourselves all the time. 

What organization, business, or any group human endeavor is improved by constantly celebrating itself as the best in the world? Don't change a thing, we're perfect! Great attitude.

Everyday is Liberation of Paris Day in the US. We're the good guys! Hooray! All of our wars are WWII against Hitler and evil.

No need to go into the wrong-headed wars we've been in since WWII. I like to use another example of who we are. Look to Latin America. We're proud of the private efforts (mostly churches whom this agnostic will congratulate) to build schools, relieve health issues, and provide some minimal sustenance. We don't really like to think of the US government teaching torture and training the death squads for the tyrants we prop up so American business can exploit the local resources.

That's not great. There's some good there. There's some wickedness there. I don't expect a populace that shrugs off all the bombed weddings and villages of the Middle East (Hey, we're good guys because we don't really mean to kill non combatants! You shouldn't be mad that we killed your family and friends! We're liberators!) to embrace the truth. It's sad that we punish those honorable enough to speak the truth.

Now let's get back to making America great again! Nigras being polite, women knowing their place, and the Marshall Plan!

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48 minutes ago, bernorange said:

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/dumbest-political-comment-ever-n-y-gov-cuomo-america-was-never-that-great-ez-WeICcjEC2jPHcDOVx3w/

 

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"Putin’s is a killer," O'Reilly said in the interview.

"There are a lot of killers," Trump responded. "Got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country's so innocent?"

 

I, for one, celebrate that it's now okay to say that American exceptionalism is a joke to everyone but Americans - our history is ugly and we still lag the rest of the developed world in basic things like education, voter participation, healthcare, social services, etc. 

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23 minutes ago, J.R. said:

You didnt build that was only stupid for phrasing it in a way that allowed the billions of pundits that now infest this planet to so easily and mindlessly take it completely out of context.  

Far be it from me to ever defend something Obama said, but was it really on him to anticipate such a reaction? I mean I get it that the pundits to which you refer are intellectually impoverished to their core, but is their pathological ability to out-dumbass themselves continuously something that a person should (or even can) gauge before s/he utters 4 innocuous words? 

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31 minutes ago, Loco said:

Trump tries so hard to be the dumbest motherfucker in the room (who am I kidding, he doesn't have to try)  ...  but the Guam quote is gonna be really hard to beat.  A lot of the alt-right stupidity would beat it, but the tea party republicans just don't have the balls to say it out loud.

Didn't Sheila Jackson-Lee ask if the Mars Pathfinder took a photo of the flag planted by Neil Armstrong back in the 90s?

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16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Didn't Sheila Jackson-Lee ask if the Mars Pathfinder took a photo of the flag planted by Neil Armstrong back in the 90s?

Looks like you are correct.

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Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas proclaimed this week that the Constitution is 400 years old. In other words, its writing would predate the Pilgrims. But while she may be spending her time avidly re-watching the Pocahontas in hopes of getting a glimpse of John Smith jotting down the phrase “We The People,” you can read some more of Jackson Lee’s greatest hits below:

If You Believe They Put a Man on Mars

In 1997, while on a trip to the Mars Pathfinder operations center in California, Jackson Lee asked if the Pathfinder had succeeded in taking a picture of the flag planted on Mars by Neil Armstrong in 1969. Needless to say, Jackson Lee, then a member of the House Science Committee, had confused Mars with the Moon. ...

Two Vietnams, One Gaffe

... “Today, we have two Vietnams, side by side, North and South, exchanging and working.” Jackson Lee went on to caution: “We may not agree with all that North Vietnam is doing, but they are living in peace. I would look for a better human rights record for North Vietnam, but they are living side by side.” South Vietnam has not existed for almost 40 years since North Vietnamese forces took Saigon and reunified the former French colony in 1975.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-constitution-is-400-years-old-and-more-pearls-from-sheila-jackson-lee

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25 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Didn't Sheila Jackson-Lee ask if the Mars Pathfinder took a photo of the flag planted by Neil Armstrong back in the 90s?

yeah, that's stupid, but it's not islands tipping over stupid.

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“There is a lot of money to pay for this that doesn’t have to be US taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people. We are talking about a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon.”

Paul Wolfowitz
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“We know where they are [Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction]. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.”
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05/01/2003, George W. Bush, President
“My fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended.”  Under the banner “Mission Accomplished.”

 

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

We are a constant stream of drivel congratulating ourselves on our generosity, greatness, and how we are the envy of the world. Her mistake about Japan is the cherry on top of the bullshit self-aggrandizement we feed ourselves all the time. 

That didn't surprise me. It's incontrovertibly obvious that there isn't a living soul working for News Corp, or any of its subsidiaries, that has the first damned clue as to what socialism/communism is. They just throw around those words to describe anyone that they don't like (or that would hate them), and they've not an ounce of shame for being absolutely wrong about absolutely everything any of them has ever said about it. 

Seriously, if you can portray Hirohito's Japan as "communist," then you can portray any government as communist because the word ceases to have meaning.

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2 hours ago, hpslugga said:

Far be it from me to ever defend something Obama said, but was it really on him to anticipate such a reaction? I mean I get it that the pundits to which you refer are intellectually impoverished to their core, but is their pathological ability to out-dumbass themselves continuously something that a person should (or even can) gauge before s/he utters 4 innocuous words? 

So are you saying I shouldn't anticipate a negative reaction if I come home from work and tell my wife (who is a stay at home mom) "You didn't cook that." In reference to the dinner she has ready?

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2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

 

Didn't seem to hurt Trump much when he put us in the same league as murdering Putin. I guess it's okay if GOPs hate America while making it great again.

We are a constant stream of drivel congratulating ourselves on our generosity, greatness, and how we are the envy of the world. Her mistake about Japan is the cherry on top of the bullshit self-aggrandizement we feed ourselves all the time. 

What organization, business, or any group human endeavor is improved by constantly celebrating itself as the best in the world? Don't change a thing, we're perfect! Great attitude.

Everyday is Liberation of Paris Day in the US. We're the good guys! Hooray! All of our wars are WWII against Hitler and evil.

No need to go into the wrong-headed wars we've been in since WWII. I like to use another example of who we are. Look to Latin America. We're proud of the private efforts (mostly churches whom this agnostic will congratulate) to build schools, relieve health issues, and provide some minimal sustenance. We don't really like to think of the US government teaching torture and training the death squads for the tyrants we prop up so American business can exploit the local resources.

That's not great. There's some good there. There's some wickedness there. I don't expect a populace that shrugs off all the bombed weddings and villages of the Middle East (Hey, we're good guys because we don't really mean to kill non combatants! You shouldn't be mad that we killed your family and friends! We're liberators!) to embrace the truth. It's sad that we punish those honorable enough to speak the truth.

Now let's get back to making America great again! Nigras being polite, women knowing their place, and the Marshall Plan!

well said. its amazing that this still wins hearts and minds when its very clearly something that is deplored if anyone/anything acts in such a manner. 

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1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

So are you saying I shouldn't anticipate a negative reaction if I come home from work and tell my wife (who is a stay at home mom) "You didn't cook that." In reference to the dinner she has ready?

More like she didn't make that.  And she didn't make it by herself.  She finished the product.  100s of American workers were involved in getting that food on your Chinese made plates.  Farms, distributors, grocers, truckers, food processing plants, and companies that produce food packaging.  The workers who assembled her vehicle that she drove to the grocery store.  The workers who paved the road she drove on to get there.  The oil and gas workers that made sure her local gas station had fuel for her vehicle.  And let's not forget you.  As the only income earner in the family, you paid for that meal.

And that is what Obama meant by his statement.

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3 hours ago, hpslugga said:

Oh and Clayton Williams' "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it"

And on that similar note, Todd Akin's "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

If Clayton doesn't make that dumbass comment, he probably goes on to win in 1990, and Bush Jr. never gets a chance in '94 or '98, which means Bush never has a shot at the Presidency in 2000, and we end up with President Gore or President McCain.

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1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

it's not the dumbest, but ted cruz's campaign calling beto o rourke a "triple meat whataburger liberal" is still massively stupid.

 

Im surprised he forgot to tell Texans, "I'm like North Carolina BBQ with extra sauce."

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57 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

More like she didn't make that.  And she didn't make it by herself.  She finished the product.  100s of American workers were involved in getting that food on your Chinese made plates.  Farms, distributors, grocers, truckers, food processing plants, and companies that produce food packaging.  The workers who assembled her vehicle that she drove to the grocery store.  The workers who paved the road she drove on to get there.  The oil and gas workers that made sure her local gas station had fuel for her vehicle.  And let's not forget you.  As the only income earner in the family, you paid for that meal.

And that is what Obama meant by his statement.

Oh, I understand what he was trying to say and don't disagree with the sentiment. But just like my example, to not expect a negative reaction based on his choice of words was pretty dumb. Not Guam tipping over or flag on Mars dumb, but pretty dumb.

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5 hours ago, bernorange said:

Appreciate the responses so far.  So many great contenders.

J.R. - your point might have some validity if the quote were "you didn't build that on your own".  The actual quote (and succeeding sentence) is very offensive to anyone who has braved risks and put in the blood, sweat and tears in building a successful enterprise.  It's a gaffe in any reasonable light.

And really, in the context of a "dumb political comment", the whole point is that the comment provides fodder for critics/adversaries. 

This.

What gets totally glossed over by people trying to explain "you didn't build that" is that the "successful"people being chided by O in that comment paid taxes/fees/surcharges..... the whole fucking way.  So yes, they did help build that.

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24 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

This.

What gets totally glossed over by people trying to explain "you didn't build that" is that the "successful"people being chided by O in that comment paid taxes/fees/surcharges..... the whole fucking way.  So yes, they did help build that.

He wasn't chiding anyone. He was making a very good point about capitalism:

"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together."

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5 hours ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

“YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT” is held as the dumbest but I actually don’t mind that and see his point. I also see Cuomo’s point but I guess we can’t be honest and call the baby ugly because it’s all about feelings

Obama was talking about the roads and bridges that allow consumers to get to people's businesses. The individual business owner's didn't build them. Using this quote insinuating business owner's didn't build their businesses is Bullshit. 

And the Trumpkins bought it hook line and sinker. Low intelligent voters.

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