Dumbest Political Comment Ever?

[FondrenRoad 4378]

19 minutes ago, Texas73 said:

Obama was talking about the roads and bridges that allow consumers to get to people's businesses. The individual business owner's didn't build them. Using this quote insinuating business owner's didn't build their businesses is Bullshit. 

And the Trumpkins bought it hook line and sinker. Low intelligent voters.

Some business owners, like the one who "built" the Trump Taj Mahal, let taxpayers pay for the whole thing and have never actually built a single thing in their lives.

[TexArcher 37508]

5 hours ago, J.R. said:

You didnt build that was only stupid for phrasing it in a way that allowed the billions of pundits that now infest this planet to so easily and mindlessly take it completely out of context.  

Exactly.  All she had to say was, "If you've got a business, you didn't have to build it alone..."

[Texas73 420]

5 hours ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

“YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT” is held as the dumbest but I actually don’t mind that and see his point. I also see Cuomo’s point but I guess we can’t be honest and call the baby ugly because it’s all about feelings.

"I am in agreement— I think initially it was jarring to hear (much like the Cuomo comment) for a lot of folks, but if you took time and gave honest thought, there is merit. I get that."

The above are the 2 full posts you wrote. I fail to read where you explained in context that Obama speech that day was about public works in our country and specifically the  “YOU DIDNT BUILD THAT” was about roads and bridges. Call it what it was, bullshit to claim Obama said private business owners didn't build their businesses. 

It is not initially jarring to hear as you stated. Rather it was disingenuous for Republicans to use those 4 words completely out of context, placing them on the giant backdrop banner at the GOP convention.  And of course the Trumpkins and low intelligent voters bought into it: "Obama hates capitalism. He is a communist."

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20342]

I'm going to go with Gary Hart telling reporters to "Follow me around. I don't care. I'm serious. If anybody wants to put a tail on me, go ahead. They'll be very bored."
 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[Brisketexan 104559]

26 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

Also, just to add... I disagree and I do think it was jarring to hear, and I rather think that it was purposefully made to be that way. Obama was trying to be blunt and chide those who wrongfully think that everything they've built/accomplished was done in a vaccuum and refused to give any insight or credit to other factors. He was verbally trying to bring those people down a peg.

I don't think it was intended to take anyone "down a peg."  And I agree, he could have fixed it by adding "all by yourself" at the end of his sentence (which is exactly what he meant).

When I heard the full comments, my takeaway was that it was trying to bring home a point that may be even more important today than it was just a few years ago -- we live in a society and a community.  One of the main reasons that we have been a successful nation is that we have built in to our culture, and thus our system of self-government, mechanism that help us.  My farm grows great produce...but the FM road system helped me get it to market and make good money.  The kid down the street born to poor parents is bright...and having a public education system helped him become a doctor.  The successful real estate developer depends on a system of laws that ensures that he gets good title, can enforce contracts without having to use a gun, etc.  My wife and I don't miss much work with sick kids because we have safe, clean drinking water, and functioning public sewer systems (the greatest health advancement of the last 2,000 years).  When my business had a small fire, I didn't lose everything because the public fire department came right away and put the fire out.  And it goes on and on.

The myth of "I did it all by myself" is not just a myth, it's a lie.  And it's a dangerous lie, because it leads us to dismiss any concept of the common good.  Yes, without hard work, your chances of success go way down.  But hard work alone is not the recipe that put most successful people where they are.  A functioning society, with thousands of mechanisms in place to further the public good, helped us get there.  And that's not communism, it's not socialism.  It's the very fabric of who we are, and who we have been from our very beginning.  Pick up de Tocqueville, and read all about it.

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I don't think it was intended to take anyone "down a peg."  And I agree, he could have fixed it by adding "all by yourself" at the end of his sentence (which is exactly what he meant).

When I heard the full comments, my takeaway was that it was trying to bring home a point that may be even more important today than it was just a few years ago -- we live in a society and a community.  One of the main reasons that we have been a successful nation is that we have built in to our culture, and thus our system of self-government, mechanism that help us.  My farm grows great produce...but the FM road system helped me get it to market and make good money.  The kid down the street born to poor parents is bright...and having a public education system helped him become a doctor.  The successful real estate developer depends on a system of laws that ensures that he gets good title, can enforce contracts without having to use a gun, etc.  My wife and I don't miss much work with sick kids because we have safe, clean drinking water, and functioning public sewer systems (the greatest health advancement of the last 2,000 years).  When my business had a small fire, I didn't lose everything because the public fire department came right away and put the fire out.  And it goes on and on.

The myth of "I did it all by myself" is not just a myth, it's a lie.  And it's a dangerous lie, because it leads us to dismiss any concept of the common good.  Yes, without hard work, your chances of success go way down.  But hard work alone is not the recipe that put most successful people where they are.  A functioning society, with thousands of mechanisms in place to further the public good, helped us get there.  And that's not communism, it's not socialism.  It's the very fabric of who we are, and who we have been from our very beginning.  Pick up de Tocqueville, and read all about it.

[LongestHorn 759]

5 hours ago, Js1 said:

 

I could add Army CoS Shinseki being publically admonished by Wolfowitz for warning that it will require hundreds of thousands is American soldiers to rebuild Iraq, saying the General was "wildly off the mark."  

Or Rumsfeld war estimate of $2 billion/month cost to taxpayers.  Actual cost was $8 billion/month.

Or the dozens of Israel intel assessments which would later be discovered to be intentionally false to pressure our American invasion.

But those Iraq war examples aren't "dumb" as much as they are criminal.

[David Dennison 18652]

56 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

Also, just to add... I disagree and I do think it was jarring to hear, and I rather think that it was purposefully made to be that way. Obama was trying to be blunt and chide those who wrongfully think that everything they've built/accomplished was done in a vaccuum and refused to give any insight or credit to other factors. He was verbally trying to bring those people down a peg.

He wasn't trying to chide anyone. That is a misrepresentation of his speech.

Also, what Brisket said.

Edited August 16, 2018 by David Dennison

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20342]

Pick one:


 

“Iraq is a very wealthy country. Enormous oil reserves. They can finance, largely finance the reconstruction of their own country. And I have no doubt that they will.”

Richard Perle, chair
The Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board
July 11, 2002

---

“The likely economic effects [of a war in Iraq] would be relatively small…. Under every plausible scenario, the negative effect will be quite small relative to the economic benefits.”

Lawrence Lindsey
White House economic adviser
September 16, 2002

---

“It is unimaginable that the United States would have to contribute hundreds of billions of dollars and highly unlikely that we would have to contribute even tens of billions of dollars.”

Kenneth Pollack
former director for Persian Gulf affairs
National Security Council
September 2002

---

“The costs of any intervention would be very small.”

Glenn Hubbard
White House economic adviser
October 4, 2002

---

“Iraq has tremendous resources that belong to the Iraqi people. And so there are a variety of means that Iraq has to be able to shoulder much of the burden for their own reconstruction.”

Ari Fleischer
White House press secretary
February 18, 2003

---

“When it comes to reconstruction, before we turn to the American taxpayer, we will turn first to the resources of the Iraqi government and the international community.”

Donald Rumsfeld
Secretary of Defense
March 27, 2003

---

“There is a lot of money to pay for this that doesn’t have to be US taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people. We are talking about a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon.”

Paul Wolfowitz
Deputy Secretary of Defense
testifying before the defense subcommittee
of the House Appropriations Committee
March 27, 2003

---

“The United States is very committed to helping Iraq recover from the conflict, but Iraq will not require sustained aid.”

Mitchell Daniels, director
White House Office of Management and Budget
April 21, 2003

---

"It is not knowable how long that conflict [in Iraq] would last. It could last, you know, six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."

Donald Rumsfeld
Secretary of Defense

Feb. 7, 2003

Edited August 16, 2018 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[LongestHorn 759]

Pronouncing nuclear as nukular is either dumb, lazy, or a combination of both.

And his tone during the press dinner jokes about looking for WMDs was deaf, at best, and cruel to families of dead Americans.  But in fairness, he wasn't chiding anyone. 

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

29 minutes ago, LongestHorn said:

Pronouncing nuclear as nukular is either dumb, lazy, or a combination of both.

And his tone during the press dinner jokes about looking for WMDs was deaf, at best, and cruel to families of dead Americans.  But in fairness, he wasn't chiding anyone. 

 

Or part of a speech impediment issue..... 

[LongestHorn 759]

44 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Or part of a speech impediment issue..... 

Of course, you're right.  Now I feel bad for using his speech disability as an example.

Spoiler

 "They misunderestimated me." – Bentonville, Arkansas; November 6, 2000

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." – Saginaw, Michigan, September 29, 2000, while attempting to reassure the business community that he does not support tearing down dams to protect endangered fish species.

 "There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably i Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.'"– Nashville, Tennessee; September 17, 2002

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country."– Poplar Bluff, Missouri; September 6, 2004

"I'm going to put people in my place, so when the history of this administration is written at least there's an authoritarian voice saying exactly what happened." (Announcing he would write a book about "the 12 toughest decisions" he had to make.) "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." —President George W. Bush, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008

 "I'm the commander, see. I don't need to explain — I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."

 "Yesterday, you made note of my—the lack of my talent when it came to dancing. But nevertheless, I want you to know I danced with joy. And no question Liberia has gone through very difficult times"- Speaking with the president of Liberia, Washington, D.C., October 22, 2008

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." January 2000, in a public speech outside Charleston, South Carolina.. According to The Financial Times, the phrase "mental losses" confused the crowd, although it seemed distantly related to "missile launches".

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

"I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best." —Washington, D.C., January 12, 2009

"Well, I mean that a defeat in Iraq will embolden the enemy and will provide the enemy – more opportunity to train, plan, to attack us. That's what I mean. There – it's – you know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."

 "I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace."

 "See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."

 "You bet I cut the taxes at the top. That encourages entrepreneurship. What we Republicans should stand for is growth in the economy. We ought to make the pie higher."

 In January 2000, just before the New Hampshire primary, Bush challenged the members of the Nashua Chamber of Commerce to imagine themselves as a single mother "working hard to put food on your family."

"You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that."  Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

 "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" – Florence, South Carolina; January 11, 2000 "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test."

 "As yesterday's positive report card shows, childrens do learn when standards are high and results are measured." - September 2007

 

[irishtexan 11445]

7 hours ago, hpslugga said:

Oh and Clayton Williams' "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it"

It's this.

[TexasBeta 1261]

“I believe it is peace in our time” - Neville Chamberlain

[David Dennison 18652]

"Oops."

[freyguy 4245]

6 hours ago, retread said:

Suddenly a new contender emerges

 

If said survivor was from Bonyton Beach then I'd have believed it.

[RomaVicta 29775]

His worst moment as president as far as I'm concerned, and it's a bad one. I don't think the Starr investigation had any business investigating that affair. I know many disagree, but that's my stand. Him standing up and so emphatically lying is disgraceful, stupid, and politically costly.

[Brisketexan 104559]

21 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

His worst moment as president as far as I'm concerned, and it's a bad one. I don't think the Starr investigation had any business investigating that affair. I know many disagree, but that's my stand. Him standing up and so emphatically lying is disgraceful, stupid, and politically costly.

Agreed.  And I remember how pissed I was that the President of the United States would look We the People in the eye and blatantly lie to us.  It was inexcusable, and unforgivable.

Man.....simpler times.

[David Dennison 18652]

32 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

His worst moment as president as far as I'm concerned, and it's a bad one. I don't think the Starr investigation had any business investigating that affair. I know many disagree, but that's my stand. Him standing up and so emphatically lying is disgraceful, stupid, and politically costly.

"What's the big deal? I didn't fuck her."

 

[Gil Bang 25897]

45 minutes ago, freyguy said:

If said survivor was from Bonyton Beach then I'd have believed it.

Was in BB a couple of weeks ago, so...close to home.   And Jacob's has the best rye bread you'll ever taste.  The "JEWS" there  (as Mrs. Moore would say) hand cut the rye bread loaf. 

[Gil Bang 25897]

I gotta think it was "read my lips, no new taxes".  It probably cost him the 2nd term. 

[Incredulity 11559]

54 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

His worst moment as president as far as I'm concerned, and it's a bad one. I don't think the Starr investigation had any business investigating that affair. I know many disagree, but that's my stand. Him standing up and so emphatically lying is disgraceful, stupid, and politically costly.

More confounding was his, “depends what the definition of is,is”.

 

[seven 1366]

The one two punch of trump/putin and then "wouldn't" the next day. Even dumb people were laughing at him. 

[NIUHuskies 504]

Obama:  "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."

 

[Incredulity 11559]

Save $2500 too. 

[David Dennison 18652]

Barry pwns.

[NIUHuskies 504]

Westmoreland (November 1967):"“We have reached an important point where the end begins to come into view.” 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

19 minutes ago, NIUHuskies said:

Westmoreland (November 1967):"“We have reached an important point where the end begins to come into view.” 

That's not the dumbest , that's the most honest.  The public just didn't know what he meant by "the end begins to come into view".

[riloh05 107]

like with a cloth

deplorables

shit ton outta trumps twitter/mouth