Peach Bowl: Texas vs Arizona State, Jan. 1, 12:00PM, ESPN

[Red Five 41736]

I feel quite strongly that 2, 3, 1, 4 is correct here. 

[BigHornedLurker 2170]

(Im too old but geebus) 

 

[TxTower 686]

Win or lose, there’s about 3-4 plays that’ll be shit bc QE hold onto the ball too long, doesn’t step up in the pocket, and takes a drive killing sack.

It’s like you actually watch the games or something…,

[Horn Dogg 4296]

2 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

I don’t know much about the Big 12. Don’t they call it the Big Dumpster Fire? You can’t compare it to elite SEC teams like Texas A&M University. That school plays tough, SEC-styled football which in the best conference. And when an SEC teams inevitably wins the national championship, they feel pride to be in the same conference. That’s pretty badass. 

If we can figure out a way to win the whole thing, it will be amazing to watch aggy try to rationalize it away.

[Keef 888]

The bye is obviously an advantage, but we had 2 weeks to rest before the Clemson game and 1.5 feels before ASU.  I wonder if ASU will come out cold after so much time off.

[RoyalBevo21 933]

2 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

If we can figure out a way to win the whole thing, it will be amazing to watch aggy try to rationalize it away.

“Ya but they didn’t win the esssss ayyyy sayyyyy. Stupid sips derp”  

[mdmost 44018]

Fun fact, we've only played Arizona State once. The 2007 Holiday Bowl which we won 52-34. Another fun fact, Shaggybevo started up around that time, mostly in anger over how terrible the Texas football season had gone under Mack and Hornfans iron fist that suppressed any anger over said terrible season. 

[UpperWestside 6274]

14 hours ago, millhouse said:

@UpperWestside how conflicted are you?

Boy howdy this will be a fun week and a half. My best friend thinks this is pretty funny and honestly so do I. 

[Gucci_Suit 2824]

1 hour ago, CycleTex87 said:

@wablty has brought some quality stuff.  He’s not in here shit posting like that doofus from Clempson. 

That’s good. My bad @wablty  

That Clemson dipshit really triggered me.

carry on 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Gucci_Suit

[Hagbard Celine 11240]

10 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

I would like to know what happened to our pass rush in the second half. It just evaporated. 

this

before re-watching it my impression is pk decided to rush 4 and 4 only and we still got beat on perfect un-defensible boundary throws regardless of distance

klubnik might be a first night pick if he declares

he's ready

 

also, our secondary were not set on several plays and chewing at each other out of frustration after several plays - haven't seen that this year - looking forward to breakdown of what caused this

[UpperWestside 6274]

1 hour ago, boilerhorn said:

Their coaching staff does have a few recognizable names. 

Hines Ward - WR - glad to see his CTE has not yet kicked in.  Bryan Carrington - our favorite former Texas recruiting specialist - is ASU's CB coach.  Wonder if he has reached Jay Valai level of competency yet.

Their OC was HC at UNLV (7-23) before Odom (who was 19-8).  Their DC was at Washington State and Nevada before joining ASU. 

It makes sense why they were picked low in the Big12.  35/44 of the 2-deep from their 3-9 team was returning.  

 

Dillingham is a fantastic coach. He really worked wonders this season to win the conference. You listen to him talk and you can see why his players enjoy playing for him so much. I stated this a few weeks ago, but there is no reason ASU should not be in the conference championship game on a regular basis. It’s one of the few schools in the conference in a major metro area. If they are willing to spend money on players it should not be an issue being good year after year in the Big 12.

[The Original CaliHorn 83]

10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Fun fact, we've only played Arizona State once. The 2007 Holiday Bowl which we won 52-34. Another fun fact, Shaggybevo started up around that time, mostly in anger over how terrible the Texas football season had gone under Mack and Hornfans iron fist that suppressed any anger over said terrible season. 

Was at that game as I lived in So Cal for 18 years. Thank God that era of 8-4 Mack Brown place sitters is over and saw to many Holiday Bowl games with Texas in attendance 

[Vertigo 20492]

10 hours ago, wablty said:

FPI is predictive, not a description of merit.   If you wanted to know there are more 4 and 5 stars in the SEC, you don't need a stat. I'm not very familiar with FEI,  I'm going to go out on a limb and guess FEI, like FPI, integrates talent composite.

 

Also, those games weren't all that close.  ASU had 3 score leads in the 2nd half of every game.  They opted to get cute (and almost screwed themselves) against BYU instead of scoring again when it was 1st and goal from the 4, annihilated Iowa State and were up 24-0 and coasting against K State.

 

Like I do agree Texas has a likely much stronger roster and there's a great chance the Horns roll ASU, but pretending ASU hasn't played anyone is silly.

All this really proves is that a decent power run scheme will decimate that stupid 3-3-5 bullshit that every team in the B12 runs. We figured that out last year.

[Hagbard Celine 11240]

10 hours ago, Pimphand said:

the stupid Quinn pirouette play

bundle-aeh

sah-vaeh

[mdmost 44018]

Just now, The Original CaliHorn said:

Was at that game as I lived in So Cal for 18 years. Thank God that era of 8-4 Mack Brown place sitters is over and saw to many Holiday Bowl games with Texas in attendance 

We then went on to so many Alamo Bowls under Mack after the Holiday Bowl changed their conference tie that I honestly forgot that game was at the Holiday Bowl. I thought it was an Alamo Bowl game which is probably me confusing it with when we played Oregon State or Iowa there.  

[4th&Five 41999]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

I was livid when Sark chose to go for it. It gives the other side a chance for celebration and rejuvenation. The UH game is the perfect example. There are, of course, other examples in Sark's tenure and Herman's.

I think the decision this time is mitigated by the poor performance of Auburn. That mitigates the decision, but does not fully justify it. 

Sometimes, I think head coaches get too tied up in the math of the score. Going for it yesterday may have been the best chance to score, but the risk was the victory the other team may get when they are on the ropes. Missing a field goal is a relief to the other side rather than a victory.

I still think Sark should have kicked, but this decision wasn't as stupid as other times. I still think Sark is learning.  He went with the running game yesterday. He blamed himself for not doing so more often in the past. 

I admire cold self-assessment in anyone. It's not easy when the world is celebrating your success. I really like our coach.

I’m as down on Bert as anyone but he’s 9/9 inside 40 yards this year and that would have been 34 yards. It also would have extended the lead to 3 possessions just like a TD would have. You kick it. 

[WBT 20972]

3 hours ago, CHEF RIBS W/ THE HAMM YALL said:

I think it worked like once early in the season and the last 3-4 times have been disasters.

It's worked a ton over Sark's tenure.  Many college and nfl teams have copied it.  Google Sark screen.  But lately teams finally seem ready for the misdirection and we aren't blocking it worth a shit.

[MirrOlure 15271]

It's worked a ton over Sark's tenure.  Many college and nfl teams have copied it.  Google Sark screen.  But lately teams finally seem ready for the misdirection and we aren't blocking it worth a shit.

Maybe we should just hand it off to the first guy in the sequence?

[NeverMarryAStripper 22294]

We just need to add another fake.  After the spin QE should pump fake to the receiver behind the line and then spin again and pass it a receiver behind the line on the other side

[Dahobbs 18318]

52 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I feel quite strongly that 2, 3, 1, 4 is correct here. 

I think this requires live testing to decide. 

[CHEF RIBS W/ THE HAMM YALL 1280]

3 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

We just need to add another fake.  After the spin QE should pump fake to the receiver behind the line and then spin again and pass it a receiver behind the line on the other side

[BachelorTrek 3320]

16 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Line opens at Texas -13.5, O/U 50.5. 
I expect lots of pics of ASU coeds. 
 

 

3, (a ménage à trois with the middle two), 4

[Rip76 5022]

F’ing noon?

[Js1 87179]

1 minute ago, Rip76 said:

F’ing noon?

The same time the Peach Bowl always is? Every year? Peach gets the early, Rose is the afternoon, Sugar is the night 

[Hank Kingsley 21778]

I'm happy about the kickoff time. I think Sark is too. He mentions quite often they prefer early games in regards to game day preparation. 

 

[mdmost 44018]

Noon is great. We watch our game and then get two more great matchups to close the day out. 

[Huckleberry 34633]

48 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

bundle-aeh

sah-vaeh

Based on Ewers's excellent checks into the Blue touchdown runs yesterday, he should probably just pick whatever play he wants and audible out of the Bundlé Savé play anytime Sarkisian calls it.

[BachelorTrek 3320]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Based on Ewers's excellent checks into the Blue touchdown runs yesterday, he should probably just pick whatever play he wants and audible out of the Bundlé Savé play anytime Sarkisian calls it.

Audibling out of the plays like that also defeats the other team listening in on the unencrypted radio communications from Sark to QE for the other team to know what play was called beforehand. 

[jdhorn92 1597]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Fun fact, we've only played Arizona State once. The 2007 Holiday Bowl which we won 52-34. Another fun fact, Shaggybevo started up around that time, mostly in anger over how terrible the Texas football season had gone under Mack and Hornfans iron fist that suppressed any anger over said terrible season. 

Believe that was the game Mack’s stepson touched a live ball in the field of play negating a chance at a fumble recovery.  Game was out hand at that point.  
 

ASU was talking a lot of shit leading up to that game.  I seem to recall they were a fringe top 10 team that year. 

[JBJ 3825]

The 1-4 seeds are all underdogs.  Actually crazy.

[Horn Dogg 4296]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Fun fact, we've only played Arizona State once. The 2007 Holiday Bowl which we won 52-34. Another fun fact, Shaggybevo started up around that time, mostly in anger over how terrible the Texas football season had gone under Mack and Hornfans iron fist that suppressed any anger over said terrible season. 

Shaggy filled the void Longhornfanzone occupied.  I guess Surly is the 3rd gen Longhorn hooligan forum.

[Tonesky 1059]

3 hours ago, Dignan said:

3, 1, 2, 4

 

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

I feel quite strongly that 2, 3, 1, 4 is correct here. 

Don't sleep on the partially obscured young lady on the far left - the one whose eyes seem be telling the photographer "no sleep tonight!"

2, 4, 1, 3, 5

[Underdog 29176]

This one gives me the word and the wife gets the pillow over the face… 

 

[InkaUtexas 26869]

2 hours ago, Tailgate said:

Ironically enough. The only two college football helmets I own. My sister is a professor at ASU. Should be a fun one.

Odd. Pictures of said Sister or her coed students not showing up. Must be my browser.

[tbone_ 14442]

Lived in Phx for the last 25 years. Know a bunch of ASU people. They’re generally good people, not at all like aggy or tech fans.

I suspect ASU will do a little better than most people on this board expect. And the RB Skattebo is very much legit. But in the end Texas will be too much.

All my ASU friends will be sad. But that’s just how it is.

[InkaUtexas 26869]

2 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Lived in Phx for the last 25 years. Know a bunch of ASU people. They’re generally good people, not at all like aggy or tech fans.

I suspect ASU will do a little better than most people on this board expect. And the RB Skattebo is very much legit. But in the end Texas will be too much.

All my ASU friends will be sad. But that’s just how it is.

You can console the hot ones and post pictures. We won't judge.

[tbone_ 14442]

Also I checked flights from Phx to ATL for this game. Prices through the roof. Guessing tickets were bought up by ASU fans. Probably lots of pent up demand since they’ve really never been anywhere ever.

Could be a lopsided crowd.

[Leanderman 2365]

"We just need to add another fake.  After the spin QE should pump fake to the receiver behind the line and then spin again and pass it a receiver behind the line on the other side"

Just run this play on third and 15 every time, I mean EVERY time. (ducking behind my chair, as the inbound hatred abounds).  I do agree however I never want to see this play again.

[tbone_ 14442]

You can console the hot ones and post pictures. We won't judge.

Well they are probably the kids of my friends so I’ll probably steer clear

[mdmost 44018]

Another fun fact. We've never played in or won the Peach Bowl.

 

[jimmyjazz 47159]

3 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Another fun fact. We've never played in or won the Peach Bowl.

I'd imagine their ACC (and partial SEC) tie-ins had something to do with that.

[Frank Drebin 5834]

2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

We've had the best odds since the bracket was announced. This doesn't change anything. It just says everything went as anticipated in the first round. 

And the winner of the Ohio State v Oregon game will almost assuredly have the best odds after the quarterfinals are played.  That games a toss up.  Ours isn’t.  I’d be shocked if we were still betting favorite after the quarterfinals

[mdmost 44018]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'd imagine their ACC (and partial SEC) tie-ins had something to do with that.

Sure but historically it seems a weird one not to have played in since we played in the Sugar and Orange Bowls before. 

[Pancho 46300]

10 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Also I checked flights from Phx to ATL for this game. Prices through the roof. Guessing tickets were bought up by ASU fans. Probably lots of pent up demand since they’ve really never been anywhere ever.

Could be a lopsided crowd.

Their crowd at the big 12 championship was terrible. I don’t think of ASU as a traveling fanbase

[Hookem10 870]

5 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

Will say it again: Sark please shelve the play where Ewers fakes a hand off then spins around and throws to opposite side like six yds behind LOS? 
 

The fucking play never works. It takes too long. Every team knows what it is. Today it knocked out Wisner and Majors and lost sic yds. 
 

Take that stupid fucking play off the play sheet and burn it. 

We all hate the play but if goosby blocks that lb that would of been a big play or touchdown 

[Cajun 11776]

15 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Another fun fact. We've never played in or won the Peach Bowl.

 

Coulda just said never played in it.

[BrazilHorn 6842]

Just now, Hookem10 said:

We all hate the play but if goosby blocks that lb that would of been a big play or touchdown 

Maybe but the play takes way too long to develop and it seems like every team Texas plays has that play nailed. Worked one game and Sark has stubbornly stuck with it and it’s a pick six waiting to happen

[mrhorn 1467]

We need more scouting in here

[royiv 9784]

10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Their crowd at the big 12 championship was terrible. I don’t think of ASU as a traveling fanbase

They’re not and they don’t have many of the kind of wealthy alumni that support athletics in a big time way. 

[MotownHorn 1899]

2 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Were you similarly livid when Sark went for it on the first drive from essentially the same spot and we scored 7?

No. Because down by 7 and up by 14 are two very different scenarios 

The FG would have put us at as many points as they eventually scored. So kick that FG and never score again and we still go to OT.

Idiotic to not take the points