Peach Bowl: Texas vs Arizona State, Jan. 1, 12:00PM, ESPN

[mdmost 44116]

9 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

They need to fix the seeding and the game locations. Georgia should be playing in Atlanta. We should playing in Arlington. Rose Bowl got it right. 
 

But yes, Georgia and Oregon admins are probably deeply pissed they didn’t get a home playoff game. That’ll probably be the first fix.

It's all based on the bowl tie-in. Sugar still gets the SEC champ. If we had beaten Georgia, we would've open in New Orleans, not Arlington. The Rose is always going to opt for the Big 10 champ. Fiesta has been the at-large for a while. Same with the Peach. The only reason Arizona State isn't playing in Arlington is that's the next round. If we're going to keep doing bowl tie ins then either someone needs to forego their tie for the quarters and semis if they host the championship or do the rotator of a non-bowl site. There's zero chance they take the bowl games away. 

2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

The only issue I can see is most students have gone home and not coming back. You will lose a lot of the atmosphere of a home game.

Rotate them.

Joel Klatt's idea was to move Army/Navy to week zero and use their old weekend to start the playoff. You'd have more chance of students being on campus if the games started a week earlier. 

Edited 12 hours ago by mdmost

[TreatyOak 17422]

Can someone please confirm whether the following info about the Big 12 is accurate? 

• There a school in Lubbock or Amarillo
• There is a school in Houston, and possibly Galveston, too
• They play by the same rules as Canadian football, with giant end zones, plus they have that rule where you can punt the ball back to the team that just punted
• Deion Sanders is either a head coach, or maybe he is the commissioner 
• They also go by the nickname of the Mountain West Boys, or something like that, and while it is preferred that their fields are painted blue, it is a guideline, rather than a rule
• They have several schools in the Brazos River District, and they all share a stadium in Waco
• Texas A&M University is currently petitioning to join the conference
• The Arizona State Miners won the Big 12 by beating either San Jose Sate or Fresno State in the Championship Derby held in Winnipeg, Canada

      

[jimmyjazz 47348]

10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It's all based on the bowl tie-in.

At this point the tie-ins seem silly.  It's a new world.

[Js1 87306]

11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It's all based on the bowl tie-in. Sugar still gets the SEC champ. If we had beaten Georgia, we would've open in New Orleans, not Arlington. The Rose is always going to opt for the Big 10 champ. Fiesta has been the at-large for a while. Same with the Peach. The only reason Arizona State isn't playing in Arlington is that's the next round. If we're going to keep doing bowl tie ins then either someone needs to forego their tie for the quarters and semis if they host the championship or do the rotator of a non-bowl site. There's zero chance they take the bowl games away. 

12 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Yeah they won’t take the bowl sites away bc they agreed to it knowing they’d host quarters and semis

Only quarters is historical conference tie-ins. Semis is based on #1’s preference. Oregon picked Dallas over Miami, likely to minimize travel for their fans  

[BurntOrange&White 42020]

Just now, Js1 said:

Yeah they won’t take the bowl sites away bc they agreed to it knowing they’d host quarters and semis

Only quarters is historical conference tie-ins. Semis is based on #1’s preference. Oregon picked Dallas over Miami, likely to minimize travel for their fans  

I think in a few years we will be to the point where it goes away until semis 

[Dahobbs 18426]

15 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Joel Klatt's idea was to move Army/Navy to week zero and use their old weekend to start the playoff. You'd have more chance of students being on campus if the games started a week earlier. 

Sacrilege. It is played at the end of the season. End of story. 

[westexhorn 2167]

Any thoughts on the Arizona St Qb? Very mobile and decent passer.  Recency bias but I still have ptsd from our pass coverage last season when playing against a decent passing teams.

[troph 25260]

I like the bowl tie ins, the nostalgia is nice. Grew up watching the Jan 1 bowls in awe of the history and tradition of all of them. I want more of that not less, while modernizing into a play off system. 

[Pancho 46381]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

They need to fix the seeding and the game locations. Georgia should be playing in Atlanta. We should playing in Arlington. Rose Bowl got it right. 
 

But yes, Georgia and Oregon admins are probably deeply pissed they didn’t get a home playoff game. That’ll probably be the first fix.

 

The locations are set in stone ahead of time without knowing who the teams are. This year, Arlington is a SF site. You can’t switch the sites based on who the teams are and if they win. 

Also, using your example, why would we be playing in Arlington as the 5 seed when the 4 seed would get the advantage? The Rose Bowl didn’t get it right—they just got lucky because of the seeding. 

 

EDIT to add: I thought one of the podcasts were talking about how the Rose Bowl might not be part of the CFP rotation after next year because they really want to keep their January 1st date. They don’t want to give that up. So if they do stay in the rotation, they will only host QF games.

[USNALonghorn 5198]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Joel Klatt's idea was to move Army/Navy to week zero and use their old weekend to start the playoff. You'd have more chance of students being on campus if the games started a week earlier. 

[jimmyjazz 47348]

29 minutes ago, troph said:

I like the bowl tie ins, the nostalgia is nice. 

Their job is to seed a post season tournament.  Anything that complicates that is dumb.

[troph 25260]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Their job is to seed a post season tournament.  Anything that complicates that is dumb.

[jimmyjazz 47348]

It's not like there's a Pac-10/12/2 worth accomodating.  

[randomhorn 2277]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Joel Klatt's idea was to move Army/Navy to week zero and use their old weekend to start the playoff. You'd have more chance of students being on campus if the games started a week earlier. 

Joel’s probably still concussed from that hit in ’05

[The_Great_Hornsby 3616]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

The locations are set in stone ahead of time without knowing who the teams are. This year, Arlington is a SF site. You can’t switch the sites based on who the teams are and if they win. 

Also, using your example, why would we be playing in Arlington as the 5 seed when the 4 seed would get the advantage? The Rose Bowl didn’t get it right—they just got lucky because of the seeding. 

 

EDIT to add: I thought one of the podcasts were talking about how the Rose Bowl might not be part of the CFP rotation after next year because they really want to keep their January 1st date. They don’t want to give that up. So if they do stay in the rotation, they will only host QF games.

That is weird because VY didnt beat SC on the 1st. 

[Js1 87306]

4 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

That is weird because VY didnt beat SC on the 1st. 

The Rose Bowl is never played on a Sunday. 1/1/2006 was a Sunday 

[The_Great_Hornsby 3616]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

The Rose Bowl is never played on a Sunday. 1/1/2006 was a Sunday 

In 2002, the game was on the 3rd and the 1st wasnt a Sunday. In 2010, they had a Rose Bowl game on the 1st and then the national championship with us. Interesting. 

[6th Street 6708]

lol at the Rose Bowl trying to preserve tradition after the Pac 12 went up in flames 

[dcar00 15004]

57 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

In 2002, the game was on the 3rd and the 1st wasnt a Sunday. In 2010, they had a Rose Bowl game on the 1st and then the national championship with us. Interesting. 

Under the BCS when the Rose Bowl(or any other of Sugar, Orange, Fiesta) was also the NC game the game was moved to after Jan 1st.  The Rose Bowl did do all their festivities(parade, etc) on the first those years.

our game in 2006 was the last time the Bowl Game and the NC Game were the same game.  After that the NC Game was completely separate from the Bowls. the 2007 Fiesta Bowl was on Jan 1st (Boise beat dirt burglar) and the BCS champ game was Jan 8(Florida blew out tOSU).

[Ignatius 4151]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

The Rose Bowl is never played on a Sunday. 1/1/2006 was a Sunday 

No bowl games get played on Sunday; they don’t want to go up against the NFL…

[texifornia 59084]

4 hours ago, westexhorn said:

Any thoughts on the Arizona St Qb? Very mobile and decent passer.  Recency bias but I still have ptsd from our pass coverage last season when playing against a decent passing teams.

Leavitt is a good player, especially for a true freshman. He's gotten better every game, so his early season struggles aren't particularly relevant. But with his security blanket gone in Tyson, we'll see how he does against a much better team than Iowa State.

[NeverMarryAStripper 22330]

Fuck ASU.  The horns are going to ass fuck them harder than an ASU coed pegging her boyfriend

[RoyalBevo21 997]

7 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Leavitt is a good player, especially for a true freshman. He's gotten better every game, so his early season struggles aren't particularly relevant. But with his security blanket gone in Tyson, we'll see how he does against a much better team than Iowa State.

He’s a RS/FR. Transferred from Michigan State to Arizona State.

[Ghost of Shag 2732]

25 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Fuck ASU.  The horns are going to ass fuck them harder than an ASU coed pegging her boyfriend

[Jkwellborn 7071]

Leavitt is a good player, especially for a true freshman. He's gotten better every game, so his early season struggles aren't particularly relevant. But with his security blanket gone in Tyson, we'll see how he does against a much better team than Iowa State.

How mobile is he?

[F250 29210]

This is an Operation Desert Storrm type match up with ASU being the Iraqis. This will be shock and awe shit for ASU.

Their defense can't contain the Texas offense. Their offense is Scatteboo who will get mauled by our defensive front seven. Leavitt and their receivers will not do shit against the Texas secondary.

Texas controls this game from beginning to end.

With that said, our offense will definitely leave points on the field.

[pyrohornIII 4848]

6 hours ago, troph said:

I like the bowl tie ins, the nostalgia is nice. Grew up watching the Jan 1 bowls in awe of the history and tradition of all of them. I want more of that not less, while modernizing into a play off system. 

The problem is that bowl atmosphere is quite different from a playoff game that has to be won to advance.  In bowls, there is no real pressure to win or lose, unless it has to do with final rankings.  But all of that goes away with the playoffs, rankings don't mean as much.   

The bowls were used to throwing these week-long parties for both teams.   But that is much harder to do when so much is on the line, and coaches don't want distractions.   I at first was a big proponent of rolling in the bowls into the playoffs, but didn't figure this angle.  

I'm now behind the highest seeded team be home host.   

[texifornia 59084]

3 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

The problem is that bowl atmosphere is quite different from a playoff game that has to be won to advance.  In bowls, there is no real pressure to win or lose, unless it has to do with final rankings.  But all of that goes away with the playoffs, rankings don't mean as much.   

The bowls were used to throwing these week-long parties for both teams.   But that is much harder to do when so much is on the line, and coaches don't want distractions.   I at first was a big proponent of rolling in the bowls into the playoffs, but didn't figure this angle.  

I'm now behind the highest seeded team be home host.   

I wanted Texas to win every bowl we played in, especially the NY6 ones, personally.