USN beats USN

[aggie08 21841]

14 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

I would be shocked if it was CIWS that engaged.  CIWS only engages threats with very specific flight profile and closing speed indexed to own ship.  It is a 100% self-defense weapon and cannot be used to engage targets headed towards other ships in company.  I highly doubt that a friendly F/A-18F would fly a path towards the CG that would meet engagement criteria for CIWS.  My Navy SWO speculation is that this smells a lot like VINCENNES incident where an operator had one contact hooked but was reading data for another contact and engaged with SM-2 based on the wrong data.    

But what country's piloted aircraft are we even shooting at without being shot at first? Do Yemen rebels even have piloted aircraft?

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[Guadaloopy 11138]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

But what country's aircraft are we even shooting at without being shot at first?

Ever hear of Houthis?

[InkaUtexas 26924]

3 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

But what country's aircraft are we even shooting at without being shot at first?

Remember that they, the Houti's have been launching shit into the Red Sea for a bit now. It is an active theater, just not declared a war.

USN has been intercepting missiles weekly that are being shot at them and civilian shipping.

 

Edited 19 hours ago by InkaUtexas
Guadaloopy beat me to it.

[aggie08 21841]

3 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Ever hear of Houthis?

Right, but do they even have piloted aircraft? Or just drones?

Edited 19 hours ago by aggie08

[Guadaloopy 11138]

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Right, but do they even have piloted aircraft? Or just drones?

You can't tell from radar if an AC is piloted or not.  You can get clues from size and flight profile, but it can't distinguish piloted vs unpiloted.  Aegis is good, but not that good.  

But this also goes back to my theory... operator had one contact "hooked," somehow got mixed up, and made engagement decision based on data from another contact.  That's what happened with VINCENNES.

[aggie08 21841]

Or is your theory that they had a drone or missile targeted but accidentally read the data from the F/A-18? Would the data from dissimilar targets share any similarities that would potentially explain an immediate red flag not being raised?

 

Edited 19 hours ago by aggie08
Too late, you just answered. Thanks.

[InkaUtexas 26924]

7 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Right, but do they even have piloted aircraft? Or just drones?

They have a full assortment of Surface to Surface Missiles. Like SCUDs and SCUD lite. They have fucked up quite a few ships.

 

[bolverk 30356]

6 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Right, but do they even have piloted aircraft? Or just drones?

The Houthi rebels have one fighter jet, a single F-5. Remember that time they showed it off in a Twitter post last year, flying to the soundtrack of Top Gun?

[Pato del Muerto 53557]

4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

The Houthi rebels have one fighter jet, a single F-5. Remember that time they showed it off in a Twitter post last year, flying to the soundtrack of Top Gun?

Ain’t nothin’ bout a Houthi bomber?

[FartingMonk 3625]

34 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

You can't tell from radar if an AC is piloted or not.  You can get clues from size and flight profile, but it can't distinguish piloted vs unpiloted.  Aegis is good, but not that good.  

But this also goes back to my theory... operator had one contact "hooked," somehow got mixed up, and made engagement decision based on data from another contact.  That's what happened with VINCENNES.

The only thing I don't like about that theory is the two radar contacts would be coming from completely different directions.  

[Parliament 14600]

The guy in charge of sorting this out:

 

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[aggie08 21841]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

The Houthi rebels have one fighter jet, a single F-5. Remember that time they showed it off in a Twitter post last year, flying to the soundtrack of Top Gun?

[Leeroy Jenkins 2492]

9 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

I would be shocked if it was CIWS that engaged.  CIWS only engages threats with very specific flight profile and closing speed indexed to own ship.  It is a 100% self-defense weapon and cannot be used to engage targets headed towards other ships in company.  I highly doubt that a friendly F/A-18F would fly a path towards the CG that would meet engagement criteria for CIWS.  My Navy SWO speculation is that this smells a lot like VINCENNES incident where an operator had one contact hooked but was reading data for another contact and engaged with SM-2 based on the wrong data.    

Makes sense.  I kept as far away from you SWOs as possible.   LOL

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