¡Snek!

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

yeah, the digital zoom on my old SE isn't great, but the head was not flattened out irl.  the first thing that struck me was how stubby the tail is, compared to (other) water snakes I've seen.  not as fat as (other) mocs I've seen, but not slender at all.  and that keeled dorsal area...dunno.   google searches and comparisons are inconclusive, to me.
didn't kill it.  we were on a boat dock above it.  it watched us for a while, then slithered on into a hole under a rotten tree stump.  feel free to stick your hand in there and find out for sure, Swayze.
upper end of the lake, Hate.  little ways south of the Canyon of the Eagles LCRA park, off a private road.

I agree it’s hard to tell (or tail). I’m 50-50 on it. Water moccasins coloration and patterns also vary. Regardless, at least you didn’t go full blown vagina and kill it.

[Jerry Callo 8,952]

If you just would have flipped it over, we'd know for sure.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

If you just would have flipped it over, we'd know for sure.

Honestly, most of the time if you ask the snake politely, they will tell you.

[Brothahorn 10,096]

Nerodia flatten their heads to appear very triangular. You can’t use that as an identifier.
 
Here is an example
 

See this is why you shoot first and never ask questions. Snakes are tricky.

[4th and 5 4,997]

 

16 hours ago, wd40 said:

not so nice, dese ones

Lake Buchanan, today.

 

15 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Nerodia. Not a water moccasin. Bitey, but non venomous (or poisonous for the fucking retards).

 

Negative sir.

That is most definitely a cottonmouth. 100%

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

 
 
Negative sir.
That is most definitely a cottonmouth. 100%

Is it a poisonous cottonmouth though? I bet you don’t know.

[4th and 5 4,997]

You’ll have to try harder than that, you’re out of your league here Pat. 

[NorthLoop 14,420]

16 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Nerodia flatten their heads to appear very triangular. You can’t use that as an identifier.

 

Here is an example

 

You're right, you are NOT a cottonmouth! But you are wearing a cottonmouth's uniform.  /Chappelle 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,407]

Obviously not a moc, otherwise it would have sneaked up and killed you and your family.

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

Ohhhhh shit we got a fight in the snek lounge.....

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Ohhhhh shit we got a fight in the snek lounge.....

Settle. There was no fighting.

[Braff Zacklin 13,675]

Only cuz I know better than to mess with a man who practices BJJ.

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

18 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Settle. There was no fighting.

So , cottonmouth or no cottonmouth ?

[Dennis Taylor 19,284]

On 5/12/2020 at 12:32 AM, Buzzrock said:

I don’t know, I’ve just always called them black snakes and they can get big. Took a pic of this one at a buddy’s house near the river last summer:

Was it too beaucoup?

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

So , cottonmouth or no cottonmouth ?

Still hard to be definitive from that shot, but with others weighing in I am inclined to lean towards cottonmouth.

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

1 hour ago, Patricio Swayze said:

Still hard to be definitive from that shot, but with others weighing in I am inclined to lean towards cottonmouth.

Isn't that always thew right answer.. Dark, water snek... Cottonmouth !!

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Isn't that always thew right answer.. Dark, water snek... Cottonmouth !!

That or Alabama black snake.

[That Guy 1,008]

4 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Only cuz I know better than to mess with a man who practices BJJ.

Funny because your mom is an expert in bj, and that is the sole reason why I mess with her 😯

[Braff Zacklin 13,675]

2 minutes ago, That Guy said:

Funny because your mom is an expert in bj, and that is the sole reason why I mess with her 😯

You must be good with a shovel.

[crimsonlonghorn 2,313]

15 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

That or Alabama black snake.

Goddamit I fell for this and googled it. I'm an idiot. 

FWIW, I think the second one looks more like a cottonmouth than the first one. 

[EE2B 1,569]

[SimonBolivar 11,026]

I didn't take my phone, but had a good day yesterday spoting a Nerodia swimming in the Bosque and a baby rough green snake crossing the trail about half an inch from getting a death from my fiance's shoe who didn't see it until after she passed it. It was perfect snake weather yesterday after that hard rain on Friday night/Saturday.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

I don’t know why I keep picking these little shits up. Their musk is horrific. No hognose or racers today.

 

 

Not a snake, but saw this box turtle while looking for hogs.

 

[TwiceHorn 31,985]

What's the striped one, Swayze?  I ran over one the other day but I think he was already ded.  Hope so.

I saw a bigass turtle on the edge of the trail, shell was about 10-12" and I think she had been laying eggs.

Great photos, as usual.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

What's the striped one, Swayze?  I ran over one the other day but I think he was already ded.  Hope so.
I saw a bigass turtle on the edge of the trail, shell was about 10-12" and I think she had been laying eggs.
Great photos, as usual.

It’s a Western Ribbon snake. Saw 3 of them today.

[Dennis Taylor 19,284]

On 5/17/2020 at 5:09 PM, Dennis Taylor said:

Was it too beaucoup?

Was i too subtle? Thought you people were smarter than that

23 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

That or Alabama black snake.

 

8 hours ago, crimsonlonghorn said:

Goddamit I fell for this and googled it. I'm an idiot. 

FWIW, I think the second one looks more like a cottonmouth than the first one. 

 

2 hours ago, EE2B said:

 

[Bevo Num1 1,061]

 

What the motherfuck.

[Buzzrock 15,115]

I don’t think just running over a snek is going to do much to it. When we would see big rattlers in the road around the farm growing up we would lock up the brakes and kind of smear ‘em because just running them over wasn’t enough.

 

[TwiceHorn 31,985]

6 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

I don’t think just running over a snek is going to do much to it. When we would see big rattlers in the road around the farm growing up we would lock up the brakes and kind of smear ‘em because just running them over wasn’t enough.

 

I don't know.  I have accidentally run over some green snek on my bike.  I hope they survived.  I like those snek.

I've seen juvenile copperheads run over, too.  I like them, also, as long as no kids or pets around.

But like the hognose above, they may not die immediately, but may slither off and die later.  Probably unpleasantly.

Edited May 19, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

I don’t think just running over a snek is going to do much to it. When we would see big rattlers in the road around the farm growing up we would lock up the brakes and kind of smear ‘em because just running them over wasn’t enough.

 

That doesn't make any sense.  I have seen snakes run over, but they are still alive.  But they won't survive with half of their organs on the outside or broken vertebrae.

[Gatorubet 30,627]

It’s a Western Ribbon snake. Saw 3 of them today.

I saw one in my New Orleans back yard this weekend. My dog was not at all interested.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

I saw one in my New Orleans back yard this weekend. My dog was not at all interested.

I’m guessing they taste about as bad as they smell.

[thunderlounge 8,318]

On 5/17/2020 at 9:15 AM, Patricio Swayze said:

Is it a poisonous cottonmouth though? I bet you don’t know.

Fuckers will run after yo ass, too. 

[bmbmd 1,040]

On 5/18/2020 at 6:00 PM, Patricio Swayze said:

It’s a Western Ribbon snake. Saw 3 of them today.

I had one in the front yard of the farm  the other day, and was delighted to visit with a herp that couldn't hurt me.  He remained motionless for a couple of minutes while i hovered above him.  He had five or six fire ants crawling on him, and, as I watched, so did I.  Finally, I tweaked his tail and he shot off like a rocket.  Fire ants itch like crazy. 

[Burt 4,114]

This was the third one my daughter and I saw on a seven mile stretch of road yesterday.  Anyone know what it is? 

[Burt 4,114]

On 5/18/2020 at 7:21 PM, Buzzrock said:

I don’t think just running over a snek is going to do much to it. When we would see big rattlers in the road around the farm growing up we would lock up the brakes and kind of smear ‘em because just running them over wasn’t enough.

 

The one I just posted above got backed over by me and you could hear a loud pop followed by a lot of pissed of rattling as he tried to drag his guts off the road.  No way he survived.

 

 

[4th_and_18 709]

This was the third one my daughter and I saw on a seven mile stretch of road yesterday.  Anyone know what it is? 

Are you in Arizona? Maybe a twin spotted?

[3shot 139]

Looks like a prairie to me.  

[Hate 20,232]

It’s a Western Ribbon snake. Saw 3 of them today.

If only I had a dollar for all of those me and my cousins caught on the shores of Lake Buchanan. They always ended up in an old Parkay tub that Grandma kept for some reason.

[Burt 4,114]

43 minutes ago, 3shot said:

Looks like a prairie to me.  

It is...I was just kidding.  Those things seem to be more common up here this spring/early summer than catching an aggy sneaking a sip from his jizz jar.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

This was the third one my daughter and I saw on a seven mile stretch of road yesterday.  Anyone know what it is? 

Looks like a prairie to me.  

Yeah, I am going with prairie too. Was it a juvenile? It’s pattern is very faint.

[Trey3216 15,450]

On 5/16/2020 at 8:24 PM, Patricio Swayze said:

Honestly, most of the time if you ask the snake politely, they will tell you.

Especially undercover officer snek.  He has to tell you 

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Well fuck. Spent much of the morning sweating my balls off flipping tin in the search for a speckled king. Literally the last piece I was going to check before calling it a day and I see a really brightly colored juvenile. Fuckers goes for a mouse hole before I could grab him. That’s aggravating.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

Well, I went back to try and find the speckled king, and of course he wasn't anywhere to be found, but I flipped this yellow-bellied racer.  Hoping it rains over the weekend and stirs them up again.

[Braff Zacklin 13,675]

No idea how you are able to catch those things. Must be all that Big Red-fueled energy.

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

6 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

No idea how you are able to catch those things. Must be all that Big Red-fueled energy.

Ha!  I did have Tejas BBQ today for lunch, but no Big Red.  Trying to stay away from sugar.  Maybe the BBQ helped.  These guys are fast, but when you find them under some tin, it is pretty easy to grab them.

I am pissed about the kingsnake.  Going to try again on Monday.

[EE2B 1,569]

Anytime I find a snake under some shit I’m to busy having a heart attack to catch it. I’m usually more concerned with it catching me.

[4th and 5 4,997]

What are the gloves for? So you don't mess up your nails?

[Patricio Swayze 17,058]

What are the gloves for? So you don't mess up your nails?

That and not interested in getting cut by rusty tin that I am pulling up to find these snakes. Not worried about the snakes biting me.

So far today I struck out on speckled kings. I think I will try at night after the rain. I did see a broad banded watersnake, but he wasn’t that colorful so I just let him be. About to go looking for hognose. With my luck lately, I doubt I’ll see one.

[4th and 5 4,997]

  

10 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

That and not interested in getting cut by rusty tin that I am pulling up to find these snakes. Not worried about the snakes biting me.

So far today I struck out on speckled kings. I think I will try at night after the rain. I did see a broad banded watersnake, but he wasn’t that colorful so I just let him be. About to go looking for hognose. With my luck lately, I doubt I’ll see one.

 

My best king is a four foot Cali king when I was visiting a friend in Palos Verdes. I have a 3+ right now. She's as sweet as can be, unless you are a lizard, snake, bird or rodent.

Edited May 21, 2020 by 4th and 5