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2 minutes ago, royiv said:

Definitely not. I feel dumber for listening any time I hear him speak. He’s a shitty interviewer who lets his guests 100% control the narrative and lets them spread misinformation and disinformation with zero pushback.

He's a phenomenal interviewer. You don't know it because you've never listened like I correctly guessed. There's a reason his podcast does #1 numbers.

I don't like his guest pool and he has gone annoyingly right the past few years with who he has on. He is actually fairly quick to push back but he has let the guests control his zeitgeist for a few years now. I'm not a fan of it.

There are still certain guests that I will tune in for to hear him talk to. Blagojevich being an example. 

Not everything has to be so fucking political all the time. Again, though, I know where I'm posting and am aware of the response I'm going to get. I'm still going to post whatever I want. 

The idea that the common man isn't allowed to disagree with one another in this country anymore is such fucking horseshit and I'm tired of it. Yes, I listen to Rogan sometimes. Fucking deal with it. Im a grown-ass man and can consume and dictate whatever I feel like. 

YMMV. 

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1 minute ago, ztejas said:

He's a phenomenal interviewer. You don't know it because you've never listened like I correctly guessed. There's a reason his podcast does #1 numbers.

I don't like his guest pool and he has gone annoyingly right the past few years with who he has on. He is actually fairly quick to push back but he has let the guests control his zeitgeist for a few years now. I'm not a fan of it.

There are still certain guests that I will tune in for to hear him talk to. Blagojevich being an example. 

Not everything has to be so fucking political all the time. Again, though, I know where I'm posting and am aware of the response I'm going to get. I'm still going to post whatever I want. 

The idea that the common man isn't allowed to disagree with one another in this country anymore is such fucking horseshit and I'm tired of it. Yes, I listen to Rogan sometimes. Fucking deal with it. Im a grown-ass man and can consume and dictate whatever I feel like. 

YMMV. 

Who the fuck has said you're not allowed to disagree with the "Rogan sucks" take? The real problem is a whole lot of people are overly sensitive tittybabies whose reaction to disagreement is Randy Marsh going "I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA!!!" You're free to say you like Rogan, others are free to say they don't. That's America!

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

We got two us army veterans doing terrorist shit in the United States on the same day, but yeah let’s focus on a cleric at a Houston mosque informing people that they should have a legal advocate present with them if they are approached by the fbi. 

Seems like the Vegas guy may have really been an accident. Dude was apparently a big Trumper. Seems to me there's a decent-to-strong possibility he was also an Elon fan, rented a Cybertruck because he thought they're cool, and was planning to go camp in the desert and shoot off a bunch of fireworks. Then the Cybertruck caught fire because, well, they just do that sometimes, or perhaps fumes were leaking from the camping fuel he had in the back and ignited.

Of course, from the "it was intentional" angle, he is divorced. 

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2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

You’re a loudmouth SMU jackass bet welcher who posts your jumpshot on fucking YouTube and then this board. Go drink some more and make terrible posts.  Eat a dick  

I like how I call you a child and your "comeback" is to make a bunch of childish insults.

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3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Seems like the Vegas guy may have really been an accident. Dude was apparently a big Trumper. Seems to me there's a decent-to-strong possibility he was also an Elon fan, rented a Cybertruck because he thought they're cool, and was planning to go camp in the desert and shoot off a bunch of fireworks. Then the Cybertruck caught fire because, well, they just do that sometimes, or perhaps fumes were leaking from the camping fuel he had in the back and ignited.

Of course, from the "it was intentional" angle, he is divorced. 

Both Elon and Anastasis are appropriately focused on the U.S. Army angle here, lol. 

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6 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Seems like the Vegas guy may have really been an accident. Dude was apparently a big Trumper. Seems to me there's a decent-to-strong possibility he was also an Elon fan, rented a Cybertruck because he thought they're cool, and was planning to go camp in the desert and shoot off a bunch of fireworks. Then the Cybertruck caught fire because, well, they just do that sometimes, or perhaps fumes were leaking from the camping fuel he had in the back and ignited.

Of course, from the "it was intentional" angle, he is divorced. 

Well, that first theory is out the window:

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LAS VEGAS (AP) — The highly decorated Army soldier inside the Tesla Cybertruck that burst into flames outside President-elect Donald Trump’s Las Vegas hotel shot himself in the head before the explosion

I've omitted the rest of the line that reads like a weird attempt from the Sheriff to get hired by Elon. 

ETA: I lied, this theory is still possible:

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15 minutes ago, ztejas said:

He's a phenomenal interviewer. You don't know it because you've never listened like I correctly guessed. There's a reason his podcast does #1 numbers.

I don't like his guest pool and he has gone annoyingly right the past few years with who he has on. He is actually fairly quick to push back but he has let the guests control his zeitgeist for a few years now. I'm not a fan of it.

There are still certain guests that I will tune in for to hear him talk to. Blagojevich being an example. 

Not everything has to be so fucking political all the time. Again, though, I know where I'm posting and am aware of the response I'm going to get. I'm still going to post whatever I want. 

The idea that the common man isn't allowed to disagree with one another in this country anymore is such fucking horseshit and I'm tired of it. Yes, I listen to Rogan sometimes. Fucking deal with it. Im a grown-ass man and can consume and dictate whatever I feel like. 

YMMV. 

I never said you weren’t allowed to disagree and I didn’t mention politics once. I think he’s a shitty interviewer and you don’t. We’re both equally entitled to our opinions.

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Well, that first theory is out the window:

I've omitted the rest of the line that reads like a weird attempt from the Sheriff to get hired by Elon. 

I acknowledge how outlandish this is, and I've probably seen too many mediocre movies, but I feel like the next thing we're going learn is that somehow, a death is being faked here, or a patsy is being framed, or something else dodgy is afoot. 

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34 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I agree but the guy just killed 15 people. The circles he was in should be subjected to investigation.

Granted I don't trust that "investigation" but there has to be a middle ground. 

Tell me you’ve never worked as a roadie and have never shacked up on the road with a Christian pop singer who received Grammy nominations for song and album of the year in the early 90s, while she was having problems with her husband, and it just so happened that she had passed through several towns where a string of arsons and attempted murders took place that involved a rival musician without telling me you did, and where witnesses described the main suspect as a woman in her 30s running around with a man who looked to be 10 years younger than her.

That kind of experience would have cemented in you the notion that a well-paid law firm can easily shut down any questioning from police and deflect blame elsewhere. 

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After the Tesla Truck Explosion in Las Vegas, officials are now saying that they found a Military Identification, Desert Eagle, an SLR B-30 AR Pattern Rifle, an IPhone, and a Smart watch all in Matthew Livelsberger name. Also, Livelsberger had sustained one gunshot wound to the head. Gunshot wound was inflicted “prior to the detonation of the vehicle.” With the handgun assumed to be used laying at Livelsberger feet.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tower-las-vegas-cybertruck-explosion-fire/

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45 minutes ago, ztejas said:

That's fair but what that piece of shit did wasn't law-abiding. 

It may or may not have been faith-based.

Watched today’s press conference. POS posted three videos on his way from Houston to New Orleans. The FBI said his plan was to act in the war between believers and non-believers. Also, FBI now says he acted alone.

 

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9 minutes ago, royiv said:

I never said you weren’t allowed to disagree and I didn’t mention politics once. I think he’s a shitty interviewer and you don’t. We’re both equally entitled to our opinions.

I mean sure but you can have bad opinions. 

You're labeling someone that you've never given a chance. 

Seems fairly political. 

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3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I mean sure but you can have bad opinions. 

You're labeling someone that you've never given a chance. 

Seems fairly political. 

How have I never give him a chance? I’ve listened to him on multiple occasions. Your reading comprehension is not great. I clearly stated that I feel dumber for listening to him. How could I form that opinion without listening to him? How is that political? You’re trying to make something into something it’s not. I think he’s a shitty interviewer that lobs softballs and let’s the interviewee control the direction of the interview.

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12 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Tell me you’ve never worked as a roadie and have never shacked up on the road with a Christian pop singer who received Grammy nominations for song and album of the year in the early 90s, while she was having problems with her husband, and it just so happened that she had passed through several towns where a string of arsons and attempted murders took place that involved a rival musician without telling me you did, and where witnesses described the main suspect as a woman in her 30s running around with a man who looked to be 10 years younger than her.

That kind of experience would have cemented in you the notion that a well-paid law firm can easily shut down any questioning from police and deflect blame elsewhere. 

I don't mean to dismiss the two man pissing contest over Broseph McBrohiem, but can we go back to this, just for a minute?  Is this some movie reference that I'm missing, or are you telling us you have carnal knowledge of Amy Grant?

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40 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

We got two us army veterans doing terrorist shit in the United States on the same day, but yeah let’s focus on a cleric at a Houston mosque informing people that they should have a legal advocate present with them if they are approached by the fbi. 

yet at first you were worried about the ISIS flag being upside down? Ever think that it is a sign of ISIS in distress?

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21 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Wait, this unhinged terrorist was MAGA?!? What an unexpected twist! Russian Reddit bots promised me that this was the act of one of those all-too-common “violent liberals.”

 

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20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Tell me you’ve never worked as a roadie and have never shacked up on the road with a Christian pop singer who received Grammy nominations for song and album of the year in the early 90s, while she was having problems with her husband, and it just so happened that she had passed through several towns where a string of arsons and attempted murders took place that involved a rival musician without telling me you did, and where witnesses described the main suspect as a woman in her 30s running around with a man who looked to be 10 years younger than her.

That kind of experience would have cemented in you the notion that a well-paid law firm can easily shut down any questioning from police and deflect blame elsewhere. 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

I don't mean to dismiss the two man pissing contest over Broseph McBrohiem, but can we go back to this, just for a minute?  Is this some movie reference that I'm missing, or are you telling us you have carnal knowledge of Amy Grant?

Oh, by all means ... please dismiss it!

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Tell me you’ve never worked as a roadie and have never shacked up on the road with a Christian pop singer who received Grammy nominations for song and album of the year in the early 90s, while she was having problems with her husband, and it just so happened that she had passed through several towns where a string of arsons and attempted murders took place that involved a rival musician without telling me you did, and where witnesses described the main suspect as a woman in her 30s running around with a man who looked to be 10 years younger than her.

That kind of experience would have cemented in you the notion that a well-paid law firm can easily shut down any questioning from police and deflect blame elsewhere. 

 

46 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

I don't mean to dismiss the two man pissing contest over Broseph McBrohiem, but can we go back to this, just for a minute?  Is this some movie reference that I'm missing, or are you telling us you have carnal knowledge of Amy Grant?

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5 hours ago, ztejas said:

Facts. Was listening to Rod Blagojevich talk to Rogan a couple days ago and its honestly INSANE the way that our justice system operates. I don't have an opinion on the guy or think he was wronged or want to make this political or anything but the way he talked about the incestuous nature of politics and the FBI and the courts and what have you was crazy. 

We have a lot of freedoms but all of it can be stripped away in a flash. The FBI isn't here to improve your life - regardless of how bad anything that happens may be or how pure your intentions are. They are there to make some arrest and get the paperwork done and move on. They don't give a fuck who gets hurt in the process.

I love you buddy but you need to stick to the sports boards because you are not very smart.

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5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I love you buddy but you need to stick to the sports boards because you are not very smart.

No I know. Y'all don't like dissenting opinions or anyone with intellect challenging your positions. 

I had to go dig my degree up and dust it off. To my relief no where on the thing could I find "Texas Tech University".

You had me worried for a minute. 

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58 minutes ago, TexasHooch said:

I don't mean to dismiss the two man pissing contest over Broseph McBrohiem, but can we go back to this, just for a minute?  Is this some movie reference that I'm missing, or are you telling us you have carnal knowledge of Amy Grant?

Let he who hasn’t banged Amy Grant on a leopard skin jacket cast the first stone

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9 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Let he who hasn’t banged Amy Grant on a leopard skin jacket cast the first stone

Pretenders didn’t listen to Amy Grant because she was “too worldly” but real OGs didn’t listen to her because she sang with the accompaniment of mechanical instruments of music. 

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29 minutes ago, ztejas said:

No I know. Y'all don't like dissenting opinions or anyone with intellect challenging your positions. 

I had to go dig my degree up and dust it off. To my relief no where on the thing could I find "Texas Tech University".

You had me worried for a minute. 

Ok calm down a little bit, SMoodle boy.

It's ok to be a normie and have normie takes about everything. In a way, it's admirable, because it's a sign that you're probably not terminally online like most of us are. You just have to understand that waltzing in here and firing off a take like that is not going to land like you think it will a space like this and that's why you got the backlash you did. Joe Rogan, while he does have some truly excellent interviews that he's done in times past (mostly prior to the Spotify deal), is an idiot that sponges off the intellect of whoever he considers the smartest person directly in the room with him at all times, and Rod Blagojevich is a pathetic little weasel who is absolutely guilty of doing exactly what the government accused him of, and just smart enough to be able to manipulate Rogan like most of his other guests.

This is hardly the first time you've gotten lost and wandered into a DT/CR thread and said some off the wall shit and then acted shocked. when people immediately rebuffed you.

What position are you even challenging here? Do you know?

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19 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Ok calm down a little bit, SMoodle boy.

It's ok to be a normie and have normie takes about everything. In a way, it's admirable, because it's a sign that you're probably not terminally online like most of us are. You just have to understand that waltzing in here and firing off a take like that is not going to land like you think it will a space like this and that's why you got the backlash you did. Joe Rogan, while he does have some truly excellent interviews that he's done in times past (mostly prior to the Spotify deal), is an idiot that sponges off the intellect of whoever he considers the smartest person directly in the room with him at all times, and Rod Blagojevich is a pathetic little weasel who is absolutely guilty of doing exactly what the government accused him of, and just smart enough to be able to manipulate Rogan like most of his other guests.

This is hardly the first time you've gotten lost and wandered into a DT/CR thread and said some off the wall shit and then acted shocked. when people immediately rebuffed you.

What position are you even challenging here? Do you know?

I know what I'm doing and where I'm posting. You are reading my posts and instead of taking them at face value coming up with a bunch of #Kamala2024 fantasies about how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is. 

You want to talk about taking the bait and looking like a jackass then look in the mirror. 

It's not my fault you're a fucking dipshit begging for approval on a rival fan's message board. You are a habitual, low self-esteem aggrandizer hanging on to dogshit politics to make yourself feel better.

I don't need any of that. My life is much more complicated and problematic and I have plenty of actual real-world concerns to bother me without some two-bit fuck dipshit Tech grad like yourself attempting to explain politics to me like the entire two party system isn't just a fucking sham to keep morons like you busy.

You're an idiot and one that isn't worth my time. You're the type of idiot that as soon as anyone mentions "Joe Rogan" you throw a fucking fit and immediately attempt to engage in some sort of horseshit faux-intellectual identiy-politics fueled bullshit rant about how smart you are yet you're the dumbest motherfucker in the room. 

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5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I know what I'm doing and where I'm posting. You are reading my posts and instead of taking them at face value coming up with a bunch of #Kamala2024 fantasies about how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is. 

You want to talk about taking the bait and looking like a jackass then look in the mirror. 

It's not my fault you're a fucking dipshit begging for approval on a rival fan's message board. You are a habitual, low self-esteem aggrandizer hanging on to dogshit politics to make yourself feel better.

I don't need any of that. My life is much more complicated and problematic and I have plenty of actual real-world concerns to bother me without some two-bit fuck dipshit Tech grad like yourself attempting to explain politics to me like the entire two party system isn't just a fucking sham to keep morons like you busy.

You're an idiot and one that isn't worth my time. You're the type of idiot that as soon as anyone mentions "Joe Rogan" you throw a fucking fit and immediately attempt to engage in some sort of horseshit faux-intellectual identiy-politics fueled bullshit rant about how smart you are yet you're the dumbest motherfucker in the room. 

Baby Baby, Takes a Little Time, but Somewhere Somehow you have to let this go, or you'll have Scars in Heaven. After all, That's What Love is for

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1 minute ago, TexasHooch said:

Baby Baby, Takes a Little Time, but Somewhere Somehow you have to let this go, or you'll have Scars in Heaven. After all, That's What Love is for

Baby you're all that I want

When I'm lyin here in your arms

I'm findin it hard to believe 

We're in heaven....

 

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25 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I know what I'm doing and where I'm posting. You are reading my posts and instead of taking them at face value coming up with a bunch of #Kamala2024 fantasies about how smart you are and how dumb everyone else is. 

You want to talk about taking the bait and looking like a jackass then look in the mirror. 

It's not my fault you're a fucking dipshit begging for approval on a rival fan's message board. You are a habitual, low self-esteem aggrandizer hanging on to dogshit politics to make yourself feel better.

I don't need any of that. My life is much more complicated and problematic and I have plenty of actual real-world concerns to bother me without some two-bit fuck dipshit Tech grad like yourself attempting to explain politics to me like the entire two party system isn't just a fucking sham to keep morons like you busy.

You're an idiot and one that isn't worth my time. You're the type of idiot that as soon as anyone mentions "Joe Rogan" you throw a fucking fit and immediately attempt to engage in some sort of horseshit faux-intellectual identiy-politics fueled bullshit rant about how smart you are yet you're the dumbest motherfucker in the room. 

You're wilding out about nothing. I'm not a Rogan hater, I've listened to hundreds of hours of his podcast as I'm sure you have. I just know exactly who and what he is and referencing his interview with Rod Blagojevich as some sort of testament towards how our justice system operates is objectively insane. I'm hardly the only one to point that out in this thread. It's not that you're wrong that our justice system is irrevocably fucked up, it's just that he is hopelessly compromised when speaking about the topic and Rogan lacks the education and critical thinking skills to adequately push back on him.

As far as the rest, buddy, I don't want, need, or give the slightest shit about you or anyone else's approval on this message board. You are coping. You are a fucking SMoodle. You are not even a fucking Longhorn. YOU are on a rival message board. Shut the fuck up. You've tried to run this line on me countless times and you're just embarrassing yourself again.

No one is throwing a fit except for you.

e: The best representation of Rogan on this board is probably Rex. His brain is so broken by Islamophobic hatred that he's become fucking PRONG HORN's biggest white knight because Rex is too stupid and lacks the critical thinking skills to form his own opinion, so he just sponges off whatever poster is posting shit that makes him feel the best feelings in his micropenis.

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2 hours ago, royiv said:

lets them spread misinformation and disinformation with zero pushback.

This is the dumbest critique of Rogan but it's prevalent. At the end of the day, people need to stop acting like Rogan’s job is to be some kind of truth cop. He gives his guests a platform to speak, and it’s up to us to listen critically and think for ourselves. Isn’t that how it should be?

  1. Who Decides What’s "Misinformation"? This word gets thrown around way too much these days. What’s called “misinformation” today might turn out to be true tomorrow (or at least worth considering). Tons of ideas that were once mocked are now common knowledge.

  2. Hearing Different Opinions is Valuable: Rogan’s podcast is all about bringing on guests with different perspectives. Some agree with the mainstream; some don’t. So what? That’s the point! You don’t have to agree with everything, but hearing different sides is how you grow.

  3. Free Speech, Anyone? It’s a podcast, not a fact-checking newsroom. The beauty of Rogan’s style is that it’s just open conversation. If he pushed back on every little thing, it’d feel fake and scripted. Let people talk, and let the audience figure it out.

  4. The Audience is Not Dumb: This is the internet. People know how to Google. If they hear something wild on the podcast, they can dig deeper and decide for themselves. Rogan’s listeners aren’t all mindless drones.

  5. Experts Disagree All the Time: A lot of Rogan’s guests are legit experts or people with unique experiences. Just because their opinions don’t match the mainstream doesn’t mean they’re wrong. Sometimes, going against the grain is what moves things forward.

  6. Avoiding Echo Chambers: Shutting down certain ideas just because they’re “controversial” is how you end up in an echo chamber. Rogan’s podcast is one of the few places left where people can explore weird or unpopular opinions.

  7. Intent Matters: Misinformation and disinformation aren’t the same thing. Disinformation is about lying on purpose, and most of Rogan’s guests aren’t out here trying to deceive anyone. They’re just sharing what they know or believe.

  8. Talking About Controversial Stuff is How We Learn: When guests say something spicy, it sparks conversations and debates. That’s how ideas get tested and refined. Shutting it all down would just make people suspicious anyway.

 

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7 minutes ago, wood said:

So, anyone hear anything about those crazy terrorist incidents in New Orleans & Vegas?

CNN had some new stuff from his online profiles

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/shamsud-din-jabbar-suspect-new-orleans-attack/index.html

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Jabbar, a Texas-born US citizen and Army veteran who served in Afghanistan, made reference in the videos to his divorce and how he had at first planned to gather his family for a “celebration” with the intention of killing them, two officials who had been briefed on the recordings said.

But Jabbar said in the videos he changed his plans because he wanted news headlines to focus on the “war between the believers and the disbelievers,” Raia said. Jabbar stated he had joined ISIS before this summer, Raia added.

The videos, which CNN has not reviewed, were posted on Jabbar’s Facebook page Wednesday between 1:29 a.m. and 3:02 a.m., Raia said. Jabbar also planted two improvised explosive devices in the hours before the attack, which took place about 3:15 a.m.

 

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