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6 hours ago, bullet said:

If its the one you are talking about, he did get the ball to the line before he got hit and twisted around.  He ended up a half yard short, but it was a good spot.

It was at the beginning of the game and he didn’t get within half a yard. You must be thinking about another play.

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As long as everyone's picking nits regarding the Taaffe targeting vs. the ASU targeting on Bond -

NSIAP, but I haven't seen much discussion on the targeting on Ewers the series before the Taaffe one.  It happened with 1:46 left on the Ewers 3rd and 15 QB scamper to set up Auburn's first FG miss.  I remember yelling during live action it should be targeting.  The ASU guy definitely hits Ewers helmet-to-helmet (albeit not crown or perfectly direct) and Ewers' head pops up violently as a result of the hit.  Lesser hits have been called targeting before.  PXL_20250103_033945113_MP.thumb.jpg.d86142329df3c3fe52145a2e77f8d1e3.jpg

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Just now, 7KHorn said:

As long as everyone's picking nits regarding the Taaffe targeting vs. the ASU targeting on Bond -

NSIAP, but I haven't seen much discussion on the targeting on Ewers the series before the Taaffe one.  It happened with 1:46 left on the Ewers 3rd and 15 QB scamper to set up Auburn's first FG miss.  I remember yelling during live action it should be targeting.  The ASU guy definitely hits Ewers helmet-to-helmet (albeit not crown or perfectly direct) and Ewers' head pops up violently as a result of the hit.  Lesser hits have been called targeting before.  PXL_20250103_033945113_MP.thumb.jpg.d86142329df3c3fe52145a2e77f8d1e3.jpg

A runner so not defenseless and side of the helmet, not crown sooooo

Targeting is dumb is what I take from it.  

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6 minutes ago, mdmost said:

That's the problem with the rule. Everyone thinks they know what targeting is but the way it's called is so arbitrary that no one really knows even when they are "100% sure that's targeting". It needs to be something that's rarely called and only in absolute circumstances that it's so blatantly obvious that a defender is being completely dangerous. It's also ridiculous that it is added as something that's look at when not ruled on the field. The point of replay is supposed to correcting egregious calls, not trying to litigate down to the pixel and assume the intent of a player. It's a stupid rule and it's a stupid rule that morons who claim to be rules experts can't even justify at times based on the rules. There were numerous dumbass rules experts and commentators declaring the certainty of the atrocity of the Taaffe non-call. It's yet another issue college football needs to tackle but doesn't have anyone at the top to do an adequate job of. 

It should be handled like the 5 or 15 yard penalty split for running/roughing into the kicker.  A 15 yard penalty, ejection, and suspension is just so harsh for targeting, especially when the call is becoming harder and harder to adjudicate.

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14 minutes ago, mdmost said:

That's the problem with the rule. Everyone thinks they know what targeting is but the way it's called is so arbitrary that no one really knows even when they are "100% sure that's targeting". It needs to be something that's rarely called and only in absolute circumstances that it's so blatantly obvious that a defender is being completely dangerous. It's also ridiculous that it is added as something that's look at when not ruled on the field. The point of replay is supposed to correcting egregious calls, not trying to litigate down to the pixel and assume the intent of a player. It's a stupid rule and it's a stupid rule that morons who claim to be rules experts can't even justify at times based on the rules. There were numerous dumbass rules experts and commentators declaring the certainty of the atrocity of the Taaffe non-call. It's yet another issue college football needs to tackle but doesn't have anyone at the top to do an adequate job of. 

that would be nice but Will Smith out front should have told ya...

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6 hours ago, WBT said:

People keep posting the rule as some kind of exoneration.  He led with his helmet into the defenseless receiver's helmet.  They're not going to take the win away if you admit it was obvious targeting on shaggybevo.

You are a moron.

Facemask to facemask has never been a penalty in the history of football and still isn’t.

That was clearly a facemask to facemask hit.

Find something else.

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5 minutes ago, 7KHorn said:

It should be handled like the 5 or 15 yard penalty split for running/roughing into the kicker.  A 15 yard penalty, ejection, and suspension is just so harsh for targeting, especially when the call is becoming harder and harder to adjudicate.

it would be pretty easy if they would just call it like it was originally called "spearing"(using crown). 15 yarder.  If you want to include the QB and a receiver who is defenseless with REAL ACTUAL "forcible" shots to head by helmet, shoulder, forearm fine.  the stupid targeting when a DL facemask hits a QB facemask should not be called.  light hits by a hand to QB should not be called. 

everyone else should be fair game.  it is football, it's dangerous and guess what there might be long term effects from playing it.  baseball and basketball are always an option if you don't want to get hit hard in the head.

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2 hours ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

yeah I often listen to past audio on the texaslonghorns official site. The media player is trash but at least you can listen to Craig Way's calls of games for the past several years. Listened to him and Roger call yesterday's game from Auburn's first miss through the Makuba INT while at the gym today. Such a great listen. 

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7 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

yeah I often listen to past audio on the texaslonghorns official site. The media player is trash but at least you can listen to Craig Way's calls of games for the past several years. Listened to him and Roger call yesterday's game from Auburn's first miss through the Makuba INT while at the gym today. Such a great listen. 

The ESPN skycam view synched with Craig Way was pure gold yesterday.  We watched the 1st and 4th quarter that way.  No commercials and didn't have to listen to the main broadcast slobber fest during ASU comeback.  I hope they do same telecast for Cotton Bowl.

 

Similarly, I was driving home today and found ESPN radio broadcast of sugar bowl outside Lubbock.  Tried to stream it on phone after I lost the radio signal.  Total beating as it was about 5 minutes behind and missing action with tons of commercials.  Ended up listening to rest of game on Georgia radio network = much better though the Georgia radio guys nothing compared to Craig Way and Roger Wallace.

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10 hours ago, pacman said:

Seemed short to me (his elbow maybe got but probably hard to overturn. The more interesting issue to me is the umpire had the best visual while the sideline judge was completely blocked from the seeing the ball. As the umpire goes to mark the ball short, the sideline judge is definitely calling the chains to move as if it is a clear first down. Not even worth a measurement apparently. You can see he is marking the spot with his left foot and the ball was nowhere near that spot, 100%.

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Your pictures are all after he got turned by the defense.  The nose of the ball hit the yellow before he got hit.

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9 hours ago, gofuckyourself said:

I know your avatar is a troll face, and so assume this is you being one, but just for any true idiots out there:

1. It's a judgment call.

2. Your judgment of this sucks.

3. Here's the actual rule, proving #2 above.

 

Taaffe didn't do any of the 4.

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10 minutes ago, bullet said:

Your pictures are all after he got turned by the defense.  The nose of the ball hit the yellow before he got hit.

I couldn't believe the spot at the time, but they had the replay on the big screen at the stadium.  The ball gets just to the yard line, then he gets hit and then twisted back.  It was a great effort by the defense, but just a fraction of a second too late.

The spot was good.

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20 minutes ago, bullet said:

Your pictures are all after he got turned by the defense.  The nose of the ball hit the yellow before he got hit.

No, my pictures show his furthest forward progress.

Sorrell was first to hit and knocked Skat sideways, shoulders parallel to sidelines, just after the 35. He continued to push forward another bit before Lefau stacked him up.

 

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(Sorry meant to edit my first post but was too slow)

 

Correct.  Didn’t launch, didn’t crouch, didn’t lower his head.  
 

The fourth part?  They touched helmets in the act of making a tackle.  He didn’t “attack with forcible contact” to the receivers head.  Thats the part that the people who think it was targeting didn’t read.  

He tackled high because I think his intention was to try to break up the pass initially but knew he was late and just had to tackle.  He’s wrapped him up.  He didn’t try to blow him up and that’s why I think he appropriately got benefit of the doubt.

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Targeting was designed to rule out the extreme hits, not the incidental contact or ticky-tacky stuff. That the media and former players and officials don’t know the rules, is pretty unlikely. All this shit is just manufactured controversy. Just like they do with Texas QB situations (is it time for the back up?) every year.

Heck today, I saw discussions about the Georgia sideline penalty and they were acting like this was a first time issue for Georgia to do this.

Maybe if the SEC would actually enforce the rules against UGA they would have not done it. Kind of reminds me how B12 used to allow TTU and OU get away with so much holding that they thought it was normal and outside of conference officiating their offenses could sputter out due to never having been forced to do their job correctly.

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