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2024 Week 17 - Cotton Bowl CFP Semifinal Texas vs Ohio State


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CFP tells Sankey to eat a bag of dicks. Pete Bevacqua hasn't come out and whined like a bitch like Sankey about it. 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43271886/cfp-flip-dates-semifinals-sec-request

"We're not going to flip the games," CFP executive director Rich Clark told ESPN on Friday morning. "The concession we made with the athletic directors was to start the Sugar Bowl earlier -- an 18-hour or so delay. We slipped the game 18 hours to ensure we could provide safety and security for teams, coaches, staffs, fans and others involved. NOLA and Sugar Bowl officials were amazing."

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1 hour ago, gernblansten said:

Apparently, you just don’t know what the term means. Teams dont become blue bloods and teams don’t lose the designation. The eight blue bloods are now and forever, the blue bloods of college football. There are CFB who understand that, and then are….other people. 

I'm sure Minnesota fans thought the same thing in the 1940s.

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21 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Forget about the blue blood talk for a minute... this final four is the Haters Ball.

Who is more despised in college football than Ohio State, Notre Dame, Penn State and Texas? Maybe Bama but it's not the same since Saban bolted. 

Perhaps USC, Michigan, Oklahoma would also be on that list.

Ohio State doesn't seem to be hated as mu h as the other three surviving teams.

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1 hour ago, El Squared said:

The Wall of Truth on the side of Kyle Stadium enshrines and protects all the hundreds of thousands of championships  aggy has to date. aggy has no need for inferior blue blood, they have white blood, obtained from each other , and sheep, administered orally, rectally, nasally, and intraocularly via organic hypodermic micro tubules or glass cylinders ….no other organization carries such “cream of the crotch” white blood in their bloodstream.  Sacred.

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I'm hopeful that Sark will actually take some chances and be aggressive offensively in this game. 

He has been leaning hard on the defense all year. Can't do that vs. OSU. I think the Texas D was still solid vs. Clemson and ASU, but when you face good teams with momentum it's hard to keep them down. Buckeyes are firing on all cylinders comparatively. 

Ride the momentum from Quinn's OT performance and keep the foot off the brakes. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, mwaadeeb said:

OSU has been shitty this year. If we can jump on them they'll start remembering it. 

Agreed I think we need to come out and punch them in the mouth early.  No doubt they think their shit doesn't stink and can't be beaten after the last 2 weeks (probably about the same way we felt heading into the first UGA game).   I don't feel great about the matchup but that is a lot of recency bias creeping in.  If we put ASU away with a good 3rd quarter or even up 24-8 like we should have I think we would all feel differently.   I have no idea how this team will play as an underdog but optimistic that change in mindset will be a positive.  

The biggest key to me is whether or not we can run the ball.  The 2 UGA games I somewhat understand but I don't get what happened against ASU.  There is no way their DL is better than A&M (or probably even Kentucky) where we ran at will.  Was it scheme?  Just flat out getting beat?  Some combination? Would like to see a film breakdown of what went wrong.

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All the pundits are hating on Texas saying we are finna get rocked lol I do hope the team has a chip on their shoulder.  If we can’t run on OSU we are done for. ASU couldn’t pass and that’s what helped us.  OSU has prob the best passing attack in college and will bring it all game. We need our elite def to be fresh and firing and that comes with sustained drives keeping osu off the field.  Just as teams have done to us keeping our offense off the field. We need be methodical and not run tempo taking 27 seconds off the clock and 3 and out 

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8 minutes ago, oldhorn2 said:

Piss and moan all you want.....Bill Parcels said two things......

1. You are what your record says you are......and ours is as good as any of the other 4 still in it.

2. A win is ugly for exactly one day.....nuff said....

Ok, our record is not as good as Notre Dame's.  Are you suggesting Texas run some "Jap plays"?

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9 hours ago, texifornia said:

By a distance in most metrics

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2 hours ago, Yesh said:

http://cfbcomparer.com/ap-poll-leaders

 

This is up to date, and also allows for selecting the timeframe and conference.  The size of each circle is based on weeks ranked #1.

This made me think it would be interesting to track where Texas was at before and after Sark considering he's basically had us in the top five every week for two straight years now.  

 

Texas in 2021:

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Texas in 2024:

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That's a pretty big move up and to the right in the last three years for both Texas and Oregon.

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1 minute ago, Burt Macklin said:

 

This made me think it would be interesting to track where Texas was at before and after Sark considering he's basically had us in the top five every week for two straight years now.  

 

Texas in 2021:

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Texas in 2024:

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That's a pretty big move up and to the right in the last three years. 

Nebraska has to be nervous at UGA's rate of acceleration. Ouch.

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This guy's a mega douche, and the Cotton Bowl might as well not even be played.

 

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Georgia's loss in Sugar Bowl shows SEC boogeyman is dead. How long do they stay down?

Matt Hayes

The signs are everywhere, the undeniable has arrived. The boogeyman is dead.

Georgia, the SEC, and everything that goes with it. 

After Georgia’s final and inevitable unraveling Thursday in a 23-10 wipeout loss to Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff Sugar Bowl quarterfinal, the SEC’s last national title hope is a newbie. 

Who just arrived from a conference it once scoffed at.

Well, look who’s laughing now: all of college football. Once Ohio State eliminates Texas next week in the Cotton Bowl semifinal, there will be no doubt.

Rejoice, everyone. The SEC finally received its comeuppance.

All of the beaten down and battered at the hands of the SEC for the last two decades, all of the ostracized and outcast that got brief respite from Michigan’s national title last season, got a full-blown end to it all this time around. 

The boogeyman is dead. The only question: for how long?

Georgia hasn’t win a College Football Playoff game since winning back-to-back national titles in 2021-22. 

Alabama hasn’t won a College Football Playoff game since it beat Group of Five school Cincinnati in 2021. 

LSU hasn’t won a College Football Playoff game since 2019.

 

SEC faces big questions in 2025

If you think that’s a bad look, take a glance at 2025. As college football pushes blindly into a new cash-fueled frontier – with the SEC at the forefront – the once sleek machine is breaking down all over the 16-team conference. 

Alabama just finished a season with four losses for the first time since former coach Nick Saban’s first season in 2007. A few hours before the Sugar Bowl kicked off, Tide quarterback Jalen Milroe announced he was headed to the NFL — leaving the program in turmoil at the most important position on the field.

Not to mention the uncertainty at the most critical position of all: coach Kalen DeBoer.

Georgia lost three games in a season for the first time since 2018, and it’s now clear that coach Kirby Smart’s decision two years ago to hire his unemployed best friend and college roommate (Mike Bobo) as offensive coordinator has gone horribly wrong.

The Dawgs won back-to-back national titles with a former walk-on (Stetson Bennett) playing quarterback for a real, live, offensive coordinator (Todd Monken). They’ve been out-coached for two seasons with Bobo and blue-chip quarterbacks (Carson Beck, Gunner Stockton), winning on talent alone until it mattered most. 

The Georgia quarterback room is full of youth and uncertainty, and the offensive coordinator isn’t going anywhere. Now what?

Alabama bottomed out this season in a bowl loss to one-dimensional Michigan, a season of confounding losses calling into question the guy running the show. Now it begins again with former five-star quarterback recruit Ty Simpson stepping into the void, and the program hasn’t looked this vulnerable since the Mike Shula years.

The Mike Shula years.

The collective shudder from Tuscaloosa is reverberating throughout the SEC. Now what?

LSU hired Brian Kelly away from Notre Dame three years ago, has lost every season opener since and hasn’t sniffed the playoffs. It bottomed out this season, with eight regular season wins — a year after Kelly wasted a generational performance from quarterback Jayden Daniels because his defense couldn’t stop anyone. 

The Tigers didn't hit big in the transfer portal while Kelly got his southern high school recruiting sea legs, and talented quarterback Garrett Nussmeier still makes unthinkably bad decisions. Now what?

 

The other SEC contenders

Tennessee finally arrived in the playoff, and promptly lost by 25 at Ohio State to underscore the dirty little secret of the selection committee: the earlier you lost in the SEC, the safer you were. 

The Vols won 10 games, and their marquee win in October was beating Alabama at home ― which almost everyone did. Tennessee then had to beat Texas-El Paso and Vanderbilt to finish the season, while everyone else got dinged in the November demolition derby.

If you think Tennessee was a playoff-worthy team, I’ve got a wildly overrated team from Bloomington, Indiana, to sell you. The Vols haven't been a legitimate threat without talented quarterback Hendon Hooker running the show. Now what?

Ole Miss spent millions in the transfer portal and lost twice as a double-digit favorite, and missed the CFP. The Rebels, despite coach Lane Kiffin setting school records, are still capable of beating Georgia and losing to Kentucky.

Texas A&M paid off a $90 million dollar gamble on Jimbo Fisher, and a year later, is Texas 8&5 again under Mike Elko.

Oklahoma – you remember the Sooners, don’t you? – hasn’t been the same since Lincoln Riley skulked out of town three years ago with the roster in decline. And took the best player (Caleb Williams) with him.

Florida hasn’t been the same since a player threw a shoe and cost the Gators a critical November game in the middle of the playoff race, and four years and two coaches later, the most unstable blue blood in the conference has the most non-Texas momentum heading into 2025. 

Because no matter how bad it looks next week in the loss to Ohio State, Texas has recruited well enough and has the experience and talent to be a legitimate national title contender in 2025. All it will take is another Manning (Arch) putting together another elite season in the SEC. 

Then again, Peyton and Eli never won a national title.

 

Georgia was outsmarted by Notre Dame

Not long after the loss to Notre Dame, Smart was asked in the post-game press conference about the biggest play of the most important game of the season. A play where the best coach in college football was outsmarted by Irish coach Marcus Freeman. 

Notre Dame was in punt formation on fourth-and-1 early in the fourth quarter, trying to run clock and protect a two-score lead. The Irish then ran the offense on the field and the punt team off, forcing Georgia to do the same. 

Georgia jumped offside prior to the snap, and the Irish extended the possession and ran more precious clock. Smart’s response to the pivotal moment said it all. 

“I’ve been told by our head officials in the SEC you can’t do that,” Smart said. 

Imagine that, the big, bad SEC is complaining that the mean man isn’t fair. 

The boogeyman is dead, everyone. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/01/03/sec-dead-georgia-loss-sugar-bowl/77417185007/

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Forget about the blue blood talk for a minute... this final four is the Haters Ball.

Who is more despised in college football than Ohio State, Notre Dame, Penn State and Texas? Maybe Bama but it's not the same since Saban bolted. 

ND and Texas are a good deal above PSU and OSU. 

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2 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

This guy's a mega douche, and the Cotton Bowl might as well not even be played.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/01/03/sec-dead-georgia-loss-sugar-bowl/77417185007/

I guess no games prior to the CFP matter. It was long, long ago, but I recollect Texas beating the shit out of Michigan. I can't recall as it was prior to the CFP, but how did the world beaters of OSU do against that same team?

Selective memory is awesome!

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2 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

This guy's a mega douche, and the Cotton Bowl might as well not even be played.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/01/03/sec-dead-georgia-loss-sugar-bowl/77417185007/

Good…

I hope all of sports media keeps saying that we have no chance against OSU. If the betting line swells to double digits, it’ll be even better. 

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1 hour ago, TXpride said:

I'm sure Minnesota fans thought the same thing in the 1940s.

This is a fair comment, to a point.

The thing that all eight of the bluest blue bloods have been able to accomplish is that they have all had multiple periods of top-flight results across several decades. Minnesota did not accomplish that. 

Nebraska could, possibly, be the next Minnesota. We won't know for another 15-20 years, but they are the only blue blood in danger of losing status.

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14 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

This guy's a mega douche, and the Cotton Bowl might as well not even be played.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/01/03/sec-dead-georgia-loss-sugar-bowl/77417185007/

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52 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Perhaps USC, Michigan, Oklahoma would also be on that list.

Ohio State doesn't seem to be hated as mu h as the other three surviving teams.

The hate for Ohio State is now almost national. They are suing people who use part of their logo or name , they harrass people that use the word Michigan etc etc.

But they are a blue blood along with Texas, Oklahoma , Alabama , ND, Michigan , USC and maybe  Nebraska . But that is it.  Penn State , Georgia , and others are not Blue Bloods.

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This guy's a mega douche, and the Cotton Bowl might as well not even be played.
 
Georgia's loss in Sugar Bowl shows SEC boogeyman is dead. How long do they stay down?
Matt Hayes
The signs are everywhere, the undeniable has arrived. The boogeyman is dead.
Georgia, the SEC, and everything that goes with it. 
After Georgia’s final and inevitable unraveling Thursday in a 23-10 wipeout loss to Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff Sugar Bowl quarterfinal, the SEC’s last national title hope is a newbie. 
Who just arrived from a conference it once scoffed at.
Well, look who’s laughing now: all of college football. Once Ohio State eliminates Texas next week in the Cotton Bowl semifinal, there will be no doubt.
Rejoice, everyone. The SEC finally received its comeuppance.
All of the beaten down and battered at the hands of the SEC for the last two decades, all of the ostracized and outcast that got brief respite from Michigan’s national title last season, got a full-blown end to it all this time around. 
The boogeyman is dead. The only question: for how long?
Georgia hasn’t win a College Football Playoff game since winning back-to-back national titles in 2021-22. 
Alabama hasn’t won a College Football Playoff game since it beat Group of Five school Cincinnati in 2021. 
LSU hasn’t won a College Football Playoff game since 2019.
 
SEC faces big questions in 2025
If you think that’s a bad look, take a glance at 2025. As college football pushes blindly into a new cash-fueled frontier – with the SEC at the forefront – the once sleek machine is breaking down all over the 16-team conference. 
Alabama just finished a season with four losses for the first time since former coach Nick Saban’s first season in 2007. A few hours before the Sugar Bowl kicked off, Tide quarterback Jalen Milroe announced he was headed to the NFL — leaving the program in turmoil at the most important position on the field.
Not to mention the uncertainty at the most critical position of all: coach Kalen DeBoer.
Georgia lost three games in a season for the first time since 2018, and it’s now clear that coach Kirby Smart’s decision two years ago to hire his unemployed best friend and college roommate (Mike Bobo) as offensive coordinator has gone horribly wrong.
The Dawgs won back-to-back national titles with a former walk-on (Stetson Bennett) playing quarterback for a real, live, offensive coordinator (Todd Monken). They’ve been out-coached for two seasons with Bobo and blue-chip quarterbacks (Carson Beck, Gunner Stockton), winning on talent alone until it mattered most. 
The Georgia quarterback room is full of youth and uncertainty, and the offensive coordinator isn’t going anywhere. Now what?
Alabama bottomed out this season in a bowl loss to one-dimensional Michigan, a season of confounding losses calling into question the guy running the show. Now it begins again with former five-star quarterback recruit Ty Simpson stepping into the void, and the program hasn’t looked this vulnerable since the Mike Shula years.
The Mike Shula years.
The collective shudder from Tuscaloosa is reverberating throughout the SEC. Now what?
LSU hired Brian Kelly away from Notre Dame three years ago, has lost every season opener since and hasn’t sniffed the playoffs. It bottomed out this season, with eight regular season wins — a year after Kelly wasted a generational performance from quarterback Jayden Daniels because his defense couldn’t stop anyone. 
The Tigers didn't hit big in the transfer portal while Kelly got his southern high school recruiting sea legs, and talented quarterback Garrett Nussmeier still makes unthinkably bad decisions. Now what?
 
The other SEC contenders
Tennessee finally arrived in the playoff, and promptly lost by 25 at Ohio State to underscore the dirty little secret of the selection committee: the earlier you lost in the SEC, the safer you were. 
The Vols won 10 games, and their marquee win in October was beating Alabama at home ― which almost everyone did. Tennessee then had to beat Texas-El Paso and Vanderbilt to finish the season, while everyone else got dinged in the November demolition derby.
If you think Tennessee was a playoff-worthy team, I’ve got a wildly overrated team from Bloomington, Indiana, to sell you. The Vols haven't been a legitimate threat without talented quarterback Hendon Hooker running the show. Now what?
Ole Miss spent millions in the transfer portal and lost twice as a double-digit favorite, and missed the CFP. The Rebels, despite coach Lane Kiffin setting school records, are still capable of beating Georgia and losing to Kentucky.
Texas A&M paid off a $90 million dollar gamble on Jimbo Fisher, and a year later, is Texas 8&5 again under Mike Elko.
Oklahoma – you remember the Sooners, don’t you? – hasn’t been the same since Lincoln Riley skulked out of town three years ago with the roster in decline. And took the best player (Caleb Williams) with him.
Florida hasn’t been the same since a player threw a shoe and cost the Gators a critical November game in the middle of the playoff race, and four years and two coaches later, the most unstable blue blood in the conference has the most non-Texas momentum heading into 2025. 
Because no matter how bad it looks next week in the loss to Ohio State, Texas has recruited well enough and has the experience and talent to be a legitimate national title contender in 2025. All it will take is another Manning (Arch) putting together another elite season in the SEC. 
Then again, Peyton and Eli never won a national title.
 
Georgia was outsmarted by Notre Dame
Not long after the loss to Notre Dame, Smart was asked in the post-game press conference about the biggest play of the most important game of the season. A play where the best coach in college football was outsmarted by Irish coach Marcus Freeman. 
Notre Dame was in punt formation on fourth-and-1 early in the fourth quarter, trying to run clock and protect a two-score lead. The Irish then ran the offense on the field and the punt team off, forcing Georgia to do the same. 
Georgia jumped offside prior to the snap, and the Irish extended the possession and ran more precious clock. Smart’s response to the pivotal moment said it all. 
“I’ve been told by our head officials in the SEC you can’t do that,” Smart said. 
Imagine that, the big, bad SEC is complaining that the mean man isn’t fair. 
The boogeyman is dead, everyone. 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/01/03/sec-dead-georgia-loss-sugar-bowl/77417185007/

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1 hour ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Perhaps USC, Michigan, Oklahoma would also be on that list.

Ohio State doesn't seem to be hated as mu h as the other three surviving teams.

Then you haven’t spent much time with Ohio state fans.  The most obnoxious contemptible people around.  Everyone hates pedo state.  I was raised that our second favorite team is whomever is playing Notre dame; that hate is prevalent anywhere outside of the Midwest and New York.  

Having lived all over I guarantee that Texas generates the least hate nationally, except maybe in Oklahoma, Colorado, and New Mexico.  And Arkansas.  Californians don’t give a shit about their own football much less anyone else.

i was in the hospital in okc over the weekend. The first nurse was from San Antonio and is a huge cowboy fan. I think he put it on my chart as some of the docs nurses and techs made snide remarks about Texas or the cowboys. They begrudgingly were envious of horns owing to their awfulness at ou and state.  Venables needs vehicle barriers around his home.  Yikes.

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On 1/2/2025 at 1:49 AM, Horn of Gabriel said:

Howard's ceiling isn't as high as QE's but his floor is higher.  They can actually run the ball usually.  And their defense is very good as well. Their safeties are ELITE which would be the best position group on the field if not for their receivers who are freakishly good and catch everything.

For Texas to win this, we have to do a few things all at once, which we haven't done much this year:

  • Plus 2 turnover battle
  • Consistently run block and go on at least two to three 7+ minute drives
  • 75% Redzone TDs
  • No negative ST plays (no FG misses <45 yards, no bringing the ball out on a kickoff 5 yards deep and starting on our 10 yard line, no getting fooled AGAIN on a fake punt)

Basically we have to be able to play downhill run the ball offense and control the clock like ASU did to us.  That's the path to victory.  Unfortunately it's also not our identity at all, which leaves the other path, which is rocky: shootout.  We may have the horses on Defense to do the shootout path but I don't think we do on Offense to consistently score enough.  If they score 35+ we are in big big trouble.  If they score >21 in the first half we're in big trouble, because you know we piss ourselves in the 3rd Q.

We need to stone the run, sack Howard and turn him over, get some timely turnovers and ST plays be be up by 10-14 at the half and then pray that we don't give it away.  Blame QE, Sark, whoever we just don't have the killer instinct right now and we play up/down to the competition.

what if you can get them to eliminate the third quarter?

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6 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:

 I was raised that our second favorite team is whomever is playing Notre dame; that hate is prevalent anywhere outside of the Midwest and New York.  

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there is, of course, a forever exception if Notre Dame plays Georgia.

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31 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

I've seen it mentioned a few times, but we need to play them to at least a draw in special teams. I know we had the punt return by Bolden, but the rest of the special teams sucked ass against ASU. We already have uphill battles in other areas, we simply cannot keep making stupid mistakes there. 

We also blocked a FG

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5 minutes ago, texifornia said:

All four teams are almost equally hated, but for different reasons, which makes it fun. Almost every person will have a cheering interest depending on whether they hate a) swaggery rich fucks with big hats, b) obnoxiously successful cold weather rednecks who dress up like NFL fans, c) the Catholic Chicago-to-Northeast media bias axis, or d) pedophiles and their friends and enablers (who also have their own share of Northeastern meatheads)

The best part is the rest of the SEC is either forced to root for Texas (knowing we would never let them hear the end of winning it all our first year in the SEC) or have no rooting interest.  It's pretty great.   

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At this point if you give anyone a mic and a camera they know ball . I knew I’d hear a lot of “Texas sucks” these next few days but Jesus, it’s getting ridiculous at this point. 
 

now I see why Kirby went crazy post game in the Texas/UGA game in Austin. This is tiresome 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, D3zii said:

At this point if you give anyone a mic and a camera they know ball . I knew I’d hear a lot of “Texas sucks” these next few days but Jesus, it’s getting ridiculous at this point. 
 

now I see why Kirby went crazy post game in the Texas/UGA game in Austin. This is tiresome 

 

 

Maybe don't almost shit the bed then this kind of stuff doesn't exist.

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I wonder if the talking heads will talk themselves into Texas somehow beating big, bad tOSU like they did talking about how ASU could beat big, bad SEC Texas?

All that aside, lots of shit to clean up in our play or this game will be end of the line. Quinn may need to play like the gunslinger he was his first year as a Longhorn.

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1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

All the pundits are hating on Texas saying we are finna get rocked lol I do hope the team has a chip on their shoulder.  If we can’t run on OSU we are done for. ASU couldn’t pass and that’s what helped us.  OSU has prob the best passing attack in college and will bring it all game. We need our elite def to be fresh and firing and that comes with sustained drives keeping osu off the field.  Just as teams have done to us keeping our offense off the field. We need be methodical and not run tempo taking 27 seconds off the clock and 3 and out 

if they can't pass like against Michigan they're in trouble. with cam coming back I think the run game will be better. asu small quick front was made to defend outside runs. bad scheme. should of ran right at them. 

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