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2024 Week 17 - Cotton Bowl CFP Semifinal Texas vs Ohio State


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Just do away with the wide passes and turnaround confusing ass passes(or at the very least limit them to maybe once a fucking drive or less) and throw more slants and seams....you know, the passes Quinn is actually GOOD at.

Not the deep middle field soft deep tosses with absolutely no velocity.

Once the defense has to guard the middle of the field for the 15-20 yard passes then the run game will open up a bit.

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Oh they look damn good. There is no doubt about that.

Texas has played poorly for much of their games.

 

Texas CAN beat them no doubt...they have just as much talent, and have shown glimpses of it.  It should not be the "Texas is going to get rolled" sentiment it seems to be.  It'll be a tougher game than they realize.

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Good thing Quinn goes ape shit against great teams. He dials that shit up to 11, and then facing his old team? Yeah, we got this. We have the Dawgs to compete and win. Everyone doubts until we come away with victory. They doubted us against them in 05, against USC in 05, Georgia in 2018; we got this. They don't want any of this. 

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So is Mike Farrell a dipshit or does he have a clue about football.  Listening to him now on the radio and he says Ohio State is far and away the most talented team in college football and should win the rest of their games by double digits easy.  Basically he is saying the last two games against Tennessee and Oregon are the real Ohio State and all the other games didn’t matter.  He said they were “tight” against Michigan with a bad game plan and that’s why they lost.  If they play as good as they can nobody is close to them.  I hope our team hears shit like this and comes out with something to prove.  

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30 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Ohio State fans react to a drunken post on Surly Horns:
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/ohio-state-football/2025/01/152419/battle-of-the-blue-bloods-also-a-look-at-texas-fb-forums
(Be sure to click "View Comments" below)

At least they give us Surly posters credit for being the dumbest Longhorn fans.  That distinction is not given, it’s earned!  Fuck “eleven warriors.”

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2 hours ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Can't decide which I like better. 

The Ohio State Couch Burners

The Ohio State Tree Seeds

 

Tree Seeds, sounds more like hay seeds and well their mascot is in fact a fucking tree seed. Dumbest shit I’ve seen since the Texas A&M Fightin Aggies.

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In comparing the two tOSU-Oregon games, I observe....

  • tOSU offensive production was roughly the same (467 yards vs. 500 yards)
  • Oregon offensive product was 496 regular season vs. 276 in playoff game.
  • tOSU had 2 fewer turnovers in the playoff game
  • tOSU sacked Gabriel 8 times in playoff game; zero times in first game
  • Oregon sacked Howard 1 time in first game; zero in playoff
  • Jeremiah Smith was 9-100-1TD in the first game (10 targets) with an OPI; he was 7-187-2TD in playoff game (10 targets) - some longer plays, but similar "focus" in the offense in both games
  • tOSU shut down Oregon running game in 2nd game
  • Penalties 
    • Game 1: Oregon: 3-25, tOSU: 7-80
    • Game 2: Oregon: 3-14, tOSU: 2-13

The Oregon win over PSU had a similar "feel" to the first Oregon-tOSU game.  Gabriel was protected.  PSU made some mistakes.  PSU had considerably more penalties. 

Oregon has struggled on defense against decent teams; in most of those games, they just outscored folks.  In this game, tOSU had fewer mistakes and the D made Gabriel play from behind the sticks for in the entire 2nd half.

Neither the Tennessee nor Oregon defense compares to Texas, IMO.  Texas D is better than Michigan D and the Michigan D held tOSU in check.   Both the Texas D and the Mich D have NFL DL and DB.  tOSU targeted Jeremiah Smith on 9 plays.  He had 5-35-1TD.  2 incomplete.  2 DPI.  

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14 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

In comparing the two tOSU-Oregon games, I observe....

  • tOSU offensive production was roughly the same (467 yards vs. 500 yards)
  • Oregon offensive product was 496 regular season vs. 276 in playoff game.
  • tOSU had 2 fewer turnovers in the playoff game
  • tOSU sacked Gabriel 8 times in playoff game; zero times in first game
  • Oregon sacked Howard 1 time in first game; zero in playoff
  • Jeremiah Smith was 9-100-1TD in the first game (10 targets) with an OPI; he was 7-187-2TD in playoff game (10 targets) - some longer plays, but similar "focus" in the offense in both games
  • tOSU shut down Oregon running game in 2nd game
  • Penalties 
    • Game 1: Oregon: 3-25, tOSU: 7-80
    • Game 2: Oregon: 3-14, tOSU: 2-13

The Oregon win over PSU had a similar "feel" to the first Oregon-tOSU game.  Gabriel was protected.  PSU made some mistakes.  PSU had considerably more penalties. 

Oregon has struggled on defense against decent teams; in most of those games, they just outscored folks.  In this game, tOSU had fewer mistakes and the D made Gabriel play from behind the sticks for in the entire 2nd half.

Neither the Tennessee nor Oregon defense compares to Texas, IMO.  Texas D is better than Michigan D and the Michigan D held tOSU in check.   Both the Texas D and the Mich D have NFL DL and DB.  tOSU targeted Jeremiah Smith on 9 plays.  He had 5-35-1TD.  2 incomplete.  2 DPI.  

Will Johnson didn’t even play against tOSU.  Neither did the TE

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1 hour ago, Skipper said:

It's not just well known morons like Mike Farrel (probably the dumbest commenter on CFB and I'll never understand how he still has any platform) but even Klatt who is one of if not the top analyst out there is caught up in recency bias.  I don't think it helped he was at the Rose Bowl and clearly didn't watch our game closely, but his analysis of the Peach Bowl was caveman level.  Focusing on the box score and completely ignoring all of the extremely low percentage plays that hit for ASU to get to those last few minutes (and that racked up a ton of those yards).  Our post game win expectancy per connelly metrics was like 90+%.  It was very similar to the Tech loss in Lubbock a couple of years ago (right down to fucked up TOP killing our D down the stretch due to scoring so quickly early on).  Everyone is completely taking the narrative that Texas was gifted the game by officials (ignoring the dozen plus patently absurd calls and no calls in ASU's favor) and forgetting that Ohio State has in fact looked human in games this year as well (and were similarly written off with speculation Day would be fired this time last month).  There is a reason this is a 6 point spread and not a 17 point spread but everyone is talking about this game like it's the latter.  

OSU may very well win, and are rightfully favored, but the disrespect this team is being shown is a bit over the top.  Good.  I hope OSU listens to that shit all week and walks in expecting a cakewalk.

 

Agree with all of this. 

When you play 17 games in a season, there will just be at least a couple of them that are strange- and this was one of them. The score, the box score, the media and message board narrative, none of it reflects what actually happened on the field. It’s not just what penalties were called or not called- the timing of the calls matters just as much. You miss blocking a punt that gives the other team a 1st down. You dominate, but the breaks keep the game close. It just happens on a long enough timeline. 

Ohio St has our level of talent. Our advantage is QB play (yes) and coaching (yes). Their advantage is special teams, because we can’t kick  

If this game was played the week after they lost to Michigan and we beat A&M, where would the line be? Somewhere around Texas -2? This is still where I would have it. 

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5 hours ago, troph said:

Some one needs to tell them wearing a hat on top of a hat is kinda dumb. 

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1 hour ago, Park Gothic said:

It's a pretty part of the state.

Also nowhere near where the game is played. 

I think the graphic was supposed to represent the divide between Texas and Oklahoma, not where the game is played.

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1 hour ago, boilerhorn said:

In comparing the two tOSU-Oregon games, I observe....

  • tOSU offensive production was roughly the same (467 yards vs. 500 yards)
  • Oregon offensive product was 496 regular season vs. 276 in playoff game.
  • tOSU had 2 fewer turnovers in the playoff game
  • tOSU sacked Gabriel 8 times in playoff game; zero times in first game
  • Oregon sacked Howard 1 time in first game; zero in playoff
  • Jeremiah Smith was 9-100-1TD in the first game (10 targets) with an OPI; he was 7-187-2TD in playoff game (10 targets) - some longer plays, but similar "focus" in the offense in both games
  • tOSU shut down Oregon running game in 2nd game
  • Penalties 
    • Game 1: Oregon: 3-25, tOSU: 7-80
    • Game 2: Oregon: 3-14, tOSU: 2-13

The Oregon win over PSU had a similar "feel" to the first Oregon-tOSU game.  Gabriel was protected.  PSU made some mistakes.  PSU had considerably more penalties. 

Oregon has struggled on defense against decent teams; in most of those games, they just outscored folks.  In this game, tOSU had fewer mistakes and the D made Gabriel play from behind the sticks for in the entire 2nd half.

Neither the Tennessee nor Oregon defense compares to Texas, IMO.  Texas D is better than Michigan D and the Michigan D held tOSU in check.   Both the Texas D and the Mich D have NFL DL and DB.  tOSU targeted Jeremiah Smith on 9 plays.  He had 5-35-1TD.  2 incomplete.  2 DPI.  

Yeah, Oregon struggled all season to get their defense adjusted to opponent. They almost always did, but it meant they rarely jumped out to a big early lead. That tendency really bit them in the ass when OSU couldn’t do anything wrong in the first quarter,  and then it just snowballed from there.

The Texas Defense is a bunch of pipe hitting MFers. 

 

tOSU is not the 2001 Hurricanes. For me, if Good Quinn Ewers shows up, the Horns have an excellent chance of winning this game.

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28 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Agree with all of this. 

When you play 17 games in a season, there will just be at least a couple of them that are strange- and this was one of them. The score, the box score, the media and message board narrative, none of it reflects what actually happened on the field. It’s not just what penalties were called or not called- the timing of the calls matters just as much. You miss blocking a punt that gives the other team a 1st down. You dominate, but the breaks keep the game close. It just happens on a long enough timeline. 

Ohio St has our level of talent. Our advantage is QB play (yes) and coaching (yes). Their advantage is special teams, because we can’t kick  

If this game was played the week after they lost to Michigan and we beat A&M, where would the line be? Somewhere around Texas -2? This is still where I would have it. 

Pretty sure that was actually a legal punt block. Punter was way outside the the tackle box. Either way, I agree with your post.

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2 hours ago, Skipper said:

It's not just well known morons like Mike Farrel (probably the dumbest commenter on CFB and I'll never understand how he still has any platform) but even Klatt who is one of if not the top analyst out there is caught up in recency bias.  I don't think it helped he was at the Rose Bowl and clearly didn't watch our game closely, but his analysis of the Peach Bowl was caveman level.  Focusing on the box score and completely ignoring all of the extremely low percentage plays that hit for ASU to get to those last few minutes (and that racked up a ton of those yards).  Our post game win expectancy per connelly metrics was like 90+%.  It was very similar to the Tech loss in Lubbock a couple of years ago (right down to fucked up TOP killing our D down the stretch due to scoring so quickly early on).  Everyone is completely taking the narrative that Texas was gifted the game by officials (ignoring the dozen plus patently absurd calls and no calls in ASU's favor) and forgetting that Ohio State has in fact looked human in games this year as well (and were similarly written off with speculation Day would be fired this time last month).  There is a reason this is a 6 point spread and not a 17 point spread but everyone is talking about this game like it's the latter.  

OSU may very well win, and are rightfully favored, but the disrespect this team is being shown is a bit over the top.  Good.  I hope OSU listens to that shit all week and walks in expecting a cakewalk.

 

Unless you have a quarterback who can really run our defense is going to make life miserable for you. ASU was the perfect storm. All trick plays hit. A QB who could run like a deer. A patient offense willing to dink and dunk us down the field. A midget RB that brought back memories of 2000 OU. A coach willing to go for it consistently. We just couldn't get off the field vs them but Ohio State isn't going to play with that level of desperation nor do they have those tools. Their QB is a plodder as far as runners go. Michigan picked him off twice and generally made life hard for him. If we play the way Michigan did but with a better QB we have as good a chance as any. Michigan's QB threw for 62 yards. That's right I said 62 yards and still threw two picks. And won the game. That was three games ago.

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I know Oregon was #1 most of the season, but they have 0 players expected to be drafted in the 1st round, 0 expected in the 2nd round, and perhaps 2 in the 3rd round.

Tennessee has one fringe first day player.  Penn State has two and then a drop off. Michigan was missing half their elite draft prospects when they played them. 

Texas is by far the most talented team Ohio State will play all season. 6 or 7 guys will go in the first 3 rounds. There's a reason the projected spread was -1.5 and the recency bias pushed it up to -6.5.

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I don’t think I’ve seen 1 analyst or podcaster bro pick Texas. Usually there’s a few who pick the underdog, but nope not anyone I’ve seen or heard. 
 

I would say I think tOSU folks are starting to not like that vibe because they’ve been playing up the “tOSU = David and Texas = Goliath” horseshit online but at the same time they are already penciling in Ohio State vs ND for the NC and how awesome it’s going to be. ND folks also think it’s just a forgone conclusion that they will be playing Ohio State for the NC and the (many) storylines with Freeman

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5 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Just read a stat that was hard to believe but it appears to be true. We are #2 nationally in scoring margin in the middle 8 (last 4 minutes of the first half, first 4 minutes of the second half).

+68 for the season. Have not allowed a touchdown in the middle 8 all year.

Gonna go out on a limb and say that number barely changes if you restrict our scoring to the last 4 min of the first half. 

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5 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

So is Mike Farrell a dipshit or does he have a clue about football.  Listening to him now on the radio and he says Ohio State is far and away the most talented team in college football and should win the rest of their games by double digits easy.  Basically he is saying the last two games against Tennessee and Oregon are the real Ohio State and all the other games didn’t matter.  He said they were “tight” against Michigan with a bad game plan and that’s why they lost.  If they play as good as they can nobody is close to them.  I hope our team hears shit like this and comes out with something to prove.  

 

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