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2024 Week 17 - Cotton Bowl CFP Semifinal Texas vs Ohio State


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I really hope this thread starts delivering the goods on updates and personal opinions on weather. Bonus if we start getting individual travel and ticket plans from various posters. 

"I'm planning to stay at the Doubletree in Mesquite, anybody have transportation tips?!?" etc is really powerful stuff on a football board.

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1 hour ago, honolulu horn said:

I really hope this thread starts delivering the goods on updates and personal opinions on weather. Bonus if we start getting individual travel and ticket plans from various posters. 

"I'm planning to stay at the Doubletree in Mesquite, anybody have transportation tips?!?" etc is really powerful stuff on a football board.

Can I interest you in the geographical growing area of Saguaro cacti?

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1 minute ago, BestNCountry said:

I’m seeing a lot of Texas confidence is this thread but not a lot of reasoning.   What exactly is Texas going to exploit about Ohio state… 

I don’t know. Ohio State lost to Michigan pretty recently. We beat the shit out of Michigan. But recency bias. 

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3 minutes ago, BestNCountry said:

I’m seeing a lot of Texas confidence is this thread but not a lot of reasoning.   What exactly is Texas going to exploit about Ohio state… 

Your corners are exploitable as a position group. But it is gonna come down to scheme and execution in general. 

Hopefully the staff isn't looking too hard at OSU film from earlier in the season to prep for this game. I'd focus on the last 3.

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1 hour ago, honolulu horn said:

I really hope this thread starts delivering the goods on updates and personal opinions on weather. Bonus if we start getting individual travel and ticket plans from various posters. 

"I'm planning to stay at the Doubletree in Mesquite, anybody have transportation tips?!?" etc is really powerful stuff on a football board.

Lol so how is this any different than “my wife wants to fuck some rando so she’s sending me to the game!!”?

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12 minutes ago, BestNCountry said:

I’m seeing a lot of Texas confidence is this thread but not a lot of reasoning.   What exactly is Texas going to exploit about Ohio state… 

Counter scheme won’t be a surprise. Texas has some of the best edge defenders in the country in any case, which is what you need to stop counter. Texas also has an elite pass rush and secondary.

I like the matchup of Sorrell and Simmons v the OTs Jackson and Fryer. OSU has 2 hellacious WRs but their QB struggles under pressure and Texas is one of the best in the country at putting QBs under duress. 

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10 minutes ago, BestNCountry said:

I’m seeing a lot of Texas confidence is this thread but not a lot of reasoning.   What exactly is Texas going to exploit about Ohio state… 

Well for one I don't think that Texas will leave receivers running 5-10 yards open for an entire first half like Oregon and Tennessee did. Will Ohio State get their plays? Sure, they are very good.  But, are they going to average 4.5 plays a TD drive with 80% of their TDs coming as the result of an explosive play like they have over the last two games?   I'd be shocked at that against this defense as Texas and PK have historically been a bend but don't break defense. So the first thing is their offense is going to have to earn it in the red zone.  When teams (Michigan, Penn State, hell even Nebraska)have put them in that spot things have tightened up for the Buckeyes considerably.   

 

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25 minutes ago, sushihorn said:

Counter scheme won’t be a surprise. Texas has some of the best edge defenders in the country in any case, which is what you need to stop counter. Texas also has an elite pass rush and secondary.

I like the matchup of Sorrell and Simmons v the OTs Jackson and Fryer. OSU has 2 hellacious WRs but their QB struggles under pressure and Texas is one of the best in the country at putting QBs under duress. 

Agree.   If you can exploit the o line weakness (4 of 5 players are backups or out of true position) Ohio state is in for long night.   I’m pretty confident in OSU shutting down Texas offense though.   
 

the reason for the success on osu defense last 4 weeks is schematic change.   Knowles has moved to 3 safety scheme and there is way more creativity in getting to the qb.  
 

 

I haven’t seen the recent film but it sounds like ewers is not playing well / immobile.  

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18 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

We are 4-0 all time vs Howard. This dude is going to be seeing ghosts the first time we take a lead on them. He is talking about how this game is extra motivation because he never beat us. Cant wait to make it 5-0. 

I’ve seen a lot of Howard’s game tape prior to Ohio state.  He’s grown under Ryan day.   He doesn’t have to win the game, Tate, Smith, Gee, Emeka, Henderson, Q will do that.   
 

just find the open receiver.   Against Texas I expect there will be a lot of shots to the tight end and extremely talented running backs.  

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7 minutes ago, BestNCountry said:

Agree.   If you can exploit the o line weakness (4 of 5 players are backups or out of true position) Ohio state is in for long night.   I’m pretty confident in OSU shutting down Texas offense though.   
 

the reason for the success on osu defense last 4 weeks is schematic change.   Knowles has moved to 3 safety scheme and there is way more creativity in getting to the qb.  
 

 

I haven’t seen the recent film but it sounds like ewers is not playing well / immobile.  

Texas defense should be able to slow the OSU offense. Key will be stopping the run and getting OSU in obvious passing downs. Freshmen Simmons is pure speed off the edge. I think Donovan (assume he is still at OT) will struggle with him like PSU game. Texas also has athletic DTs that can give your guards issues 
 

I have fears about the offense. Quinn is can be one of the best passers in CFB when he has clean pockets and knows where to go with the ball. When defenses make him move or think, shit can go sideways fast. That probably sounds familiar to you and your QB. 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, BestNCountry said:

I’m not sure I follow.   Lol

That was the refrain in 2005 when Texas won there. 
 

i think most Texas fans think we can win but won’t be surprised if we lose. I wouldn’t expect it a toss up, I’d go 60/40 tOSU wins. Reasons? Elite WR, somehow the tOSU Oline protects just enough and Texas licks the pole and gets its tongue frozen stuck in the third quarter like they kid in the Christmas movie  - or put another way - Texas steps on its own dick in the third quarter and can’t pull out the W in the 4th.

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1 minute ago, troph said:

That was the refrain in 2005 when Texas won there. 
 

i think most Texas fans think we can win but won’t be surprised if we lose. I wouldn’t expect it a toss up, I’d go 60/40 tOSU wins. Reasons? Elite WR, somehow the tOSU Oline protects just enough and Texas licks the pole and gets its tongue frozen stuck in the third quarter - or put another way - Texas steps on its own dick in the third quarter and can pull out the W.

You got me.  
 

yeah I have no idea how our offensive line has been flawless lately.   We did simply blocking scheme lately and have obviously had success with counter.   
 

Texas is definitely talented.  

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Texas defense should be able to slow the OSU offense. Key will be stopping the run and getting OSU in obvious passing downs. Freshmen Simmons is pure speed off the edge. I think Donovan (assume he is still at OT) will struggle with him like PSU game. Texas also has athletic DTs that can give your guards issues 
 

I have fears about the offense. Quinn is can be one of the best passers in CFB when he has clean pockets and knows where to go with the ball. When defenses make him move or think, shit can go sideways fast. That probably sounds familiar to you and your QB. 
 

 

I agree with your takes.  
 

Donavan will be at left tackle and agree this is something to watch.   Donavan has made a boatload of nfl money playing as well as he has out of position.  
 

you will slow osu down.  Oregon failed to be ready for a football game   Over the entire first half, Oregon defenders were asking each other if they were in max/zone/assignments pre snap   

I am hoping the difference is our front 7 against your run/pass pressure.  

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The key to beating Ohio State...

 

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He must keep the top on.  

The last couple of games, he's been caught downhill and it's put his CBs on islands.  ASU didn't really have the WR talent to kill us, but Clemson hurt us and Ohio State will destroy us if the CBs don't have help.

LBs are going to have to handle the run without a lot of safety help, which means it's up to the DL and Edge guys to get pressure on Howard.  

I think we try to blanket Smith and Egbuka, even if it costs us defensive resources, and make them beat us with someone else.  The 7 guys who are left will have to beat their man.  

 

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2 hours ago, honolulu horn said:

I really hope this thread starts delivering the goods on updates and personal opinions on weather. Bonus if we start getting individual travel and ticket plans from various posters. 

"I'm planning to stay at the Doubletree in Mesquite, anybody have transportation tips?!?" etc is really powerful stuff on a football board.

the Motel 6 in Balch Springs

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2 minutes ago, Hondo said:

The key to beating Ohio State...

 

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He must keep the top on.  

The last couple of games, he's been caught downhill and it's put his CBs on islands.  ASU didn't really have the WR talent to kill us, but Clemson hurt us and Ohio State will destroy us if the CBs don't have help.

LBs are going to have to handle the run without a lot of safety help, which means it's up to the DL and Edge guys to get pressure on Howard.  

I think we try to blanket Smith and Egbuka, even if it costs us defensive resources, and make them beat us with someone else.  The 7 guys who are left will have to beat their man.  

 

Yep.   Like Treyvon Henderson, Judkins, Tate and Scott who are all nfl capable in passing game.   

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38 minutes ago, BestNCountry said:

Agree.   If you can exploit the o line weakness (4 of 5 players are backups or out of true position) Ohio state is in for long night.   I’m pretty confident in OSU shutting down Texas offense though.   
 

the reason for the success on osu defense last 4 weeks is schematic change.   Knowles has moved to 3 safety scheme and there is way more creativity in getting to the qb.  
 

 

I haven’t seen the recent film but it sounds like ewers is not playing well / immobile.  

So you are lending opinion on a team you admittedly havent even watched? Yikes

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9 minutes ago, Wishbone said:

This game will determine the champs. Winner will play (and beat) winner of ND/Pedo.

Pedo is contractually obligated to piss down their leg against OSU. But I'm not so sure about ND. OSU and Texas have more talented rosters, but Freeman is really good at focusing on what his players do well. That's not always the case with Sark or Day.

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3 minutes ago, BestNCountry said:

We have been successfully passing to open the run.  
 

I hope Ohio state still puts up 4 touchdowns and I don’t think Texas can do the same.   
 

hope it’s a good game.  

Sark can be frustrating at times. He loves to get creative with motions and formations vs top level opponents. It can disappear vs opponents he doesn’t deem worthy. I would expect a lot of motion vs OSU. I hope to see empty looks designed to get OSU to declare coverages and motions back into more standard looks. Sark is capable of stealing a quarter with his game plan. That is kind of an unknown for this game. How good is that opening script 

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2 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

  I was at the Shoe in '05 with a ton of Texas fans from all over the country and your fan base is/was awful to our traveling party. The walk (since there was no transportation I guess) back to the downtown hotel was an embarrassment.  Im sure all teams have their share, but man what a disgrace.  I can handle the words, insults etc..but when it crosses over to physical intimidation of obviously older people, that's pretty bad.

You seem fine and I appreciate you wanting to talk ball, but just know there is a % of this community that experienced a pretty awful Buckeye nation.  If it was confined to after the game, one could almost understand, but it was all day non-stop your buddies trying to start shit.

I hate my own fan base as much as you do.  More fanatical than logical.   

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4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Sark can be frustrating at times. He loves to get creative with motions and formations vs top level opponents. It can disappear vs opponents he doesn’t deem worthy. I would expect a lot of motion vs OSU. I hope to see empty looks designed to get OSU to declare coverages and motions back into more standard looks. Sark is capable of stealing a quarter with his game plan. That is kind of an unknown for this game. How good is that opening script 

Which is interesting bc Ryan day and chip kelly can steal part of the game as well (1st half last week)
 

Knowles 4-2-5 has been doing an incredible job of disguising coverage recently.   He kind of rotates the high 3 in a way that you don’t know responsibilities pre snap.   
 

looking forward to it.  

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2 hours ago, BestNCountry said:

I’m seeing a lot of Texas confidence is this thread but not a lot of reasoning.   What exactly is Texas going to exploit about Ohio state… 

Michigan fans have told me Ohio State can be beaten if you pressure their QB.

That is something we do well and I have great confidence in this defense. So maybe that is what Texas can exploit.

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3 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Michigan fans have told me Ohio State can be beaten if you pressure their QB.

That is something we do well and I have great confidence in this defense. So maybe that is what Texas can exploit.

Our patchwork O line was completely retooled after Michigan.   It will be an interesting area to watch.  The last two games our blocking has been incredible.  Mind boggling.  

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