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2024 Week 17 - Cotton Bowl CFP Semifinal Texas vs Ohio State


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10 hours ago, Borrominion said:

I think there’s an opportunity for you to hit a few big plays on the ground - Blue is a great back and when your OL clicks you’ll pop one.  I’d be very surprised if you’re able to sustain multiple drives by grinding it out - outside of Oregon in round 1, none of the teams you mentioned really did so.  For example Tenn got half of its rushing yardage (65 yards) on their last drive of the game with its starters vs our 3rd string.  PSU’s RBs averaged 2.4/carry - it was Allar and Warren of all people who boosted their rushing stats, and their offense totaled 6 points and 270 yards.

IMO your offense’s best chance is to establish an intermediate passing game to stress our LBs in coverage and pull them back from the LOS.  Styles has a lot of physical talent but he’s often out of position; JTT is a superior DE but he will overpursue a few times on the read option or RPO.  Then find the right circumstance to hit us deep over the top or with some misdirection in the run game.  Oregon did this well in October and I think you’ll be moderately successful at it - Quinn is certainly capable.  What will hurt you is the lack of a QB run game, so using Arch creatively (but sparingly) could boost you there.

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11 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

He's not wrong. I think this is where we can win the game. Our DL has to dominate this game.

The Key here is the Big Burnt Orange Blob in Will Howard's mind. We get to him a few times - hits, sacks, INTs, whtever - and he will collapse in a puddle of choke snail vomit. The Front Line has to get by the tOSU blockers, and get to him.

I think it's more likely than not that they do.

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11 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

He's not wrong. I think this is where we can win the game. Our DL has to dominate this game.

 

more I hear people talk about this, I think it comes down to 1 thing. If Texas plays consistent good ball, they win this game. No 3Qs disasters, take care of the football and play clean (limit penalties). Hoping being an underdog and media telling them they cannot win this game, leads to the first game Texas plays with focus for 4Qs

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13 hours ago, troph said:

Except for the 2005 rose bowl ticket prices always surge up then fall as game day approaches. 

this years national championship game could be odd too with ND or PSU - both huge followings and pent up demand going back 30 years at least for both teams.  Especially PSU.

2005 also had a local team playing.  

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I expect the Cotton Bowl to be representative of the season.

I expect from Texas:

At least one missed field goal.

1 lost fumble

1 interception thrown

2 false starts

1 targeting call (Big 12)

If Texas can overcome all of that, then they deserve to win.

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25 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

I expect the Cotton Bowl to be representative of the season.

I expect from Texas:

At least one missed field goal.

1 lost fumble

1 interception thrown

2 false starts

1 targeting call (Big 12)

If Texas can overcome all of that, then they deserve to win.

We will lose if that happens. Too many errors. We can probably afford 1 turnover on the day. We definitely cant miss any field goals. 

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12 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

He's not wrong. I think this is where we can win the game. Our DL has to dominate this game.

 

Former Texas players talk about matchups on a podcast and this buckeye choad trying to make it bulletin board material. Give me a break 

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1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Former Texas players talk about matchups on a podcast and this buckeye choad trying to make it bulletin board material. Give me a break 

I watched one of these deals and apparently Hills does work with a few Ohio St players. He was up there during the summer working with them on something and he said they told him that they had Texas circled.

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This week it’s been back and forth some with Bert Auburn and Will Stone. The two kickers have been vying for the starting spot against Ohio State.

Auburn, yesterday, seemed to get the upper hand. He made all the kicks with the 1s and 2s.

We expect him to be the starter over Stone in the Cotton Bowl.

Auburn beat out Stone twice before for the job. It looks like he’s done it once again, even though he’s been just 6 of 14 this season beyond 40 yards.

I’m not shocked by this development.

Hopefully, Auburn has worked on or tweaked his approach and possibly that of his holder as well. Auburn, at his best, is the better field goal kicker of the two. But we haven’t seen Auburn at his best all year long it seems.

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bobby Burton

 

Posted 11 minutes ago

This week it’s been back and forth some with Bert Auburn and Will Stone. The two kickers have been vying for the starting spot against Ohio State.

Auburn, yesterday, seemed to get the upper hand. He made all the kicks with the 1s and 2s.

We expect him to be the starter over Stone in the Cotton Bowl.

Auburn beat out Stone twice before for the job. It looks like he’s done it once again, even though he’s been just 6 of 14 this season beyond 40 yards.

I’m not shocked by this development.

Hopefully, Auburn has worked on or tweaked his approach and possibly that of his holder as well. Auburn, at his best, is the better field goal kicker of the two. But we haven’t seen Auburn at his best all year long it seems.

If we could just get Bert Auburn of 2023 or even 2022...

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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Former Texas players talk about matchups on a podcast and this buckeye choad trying to make it bulletin board material. Give me a break 

At this point they’re grasping for straws. They’re trying to find anything cause they’re nervous. Well at least the fans are. 

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Just now, Dahobbs said:

Oh thank god. Big 12 crew would 100% have intentionally fucked us. 

Agreed.  And source so people don't think I'm just making it up

https://www.si.com/college-football/college-football-playoff-announcers-referees-semifinal-games-01jh0sf14h3s

They also were sure to throw in a dig at the "controversial" targeting no-call that wasn't even targeting 

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10 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Oh thank god. Big 12 crew would 100% have intentionally fucked us. 

Also let’s be real, if it’s Texas vs ND/PSU, it’s gonna be a Rig 12 crew in Atlanta lol 

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22 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Well, there goes my Surly cred.

The days of the shaggy rep lounge are a bygone era sir. The only cred you get around here is some burnt ends flair with an empty promise of a T-shirt that never arrives. 

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3 hours ago, Codaxx said:

more I hear people talk about this, I think it comes down to 1 thing. If Texas plays consistent good ball, they win this game. No 3Qs disasters, take care of the football and play clean (limit penalties). Hoping being an underdog and media telling them they cannot win this game, leads to the first game Texas plays with focus for 4Qs

Sounds exactly like the days leading up to Texas playing the dominate team in CFB history.  That turned great for the good guys. 

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3 hours ago, Codaxx said:

more I hear people talk about this, I think it comes down to 1 thing. If Texas plays consistent good ball, they win this game. No 3Qs disasters, take care of the football and play clean (limit penalties). Hoping being an underdog and media telling them they cannot win this game, leads to the first game Texas plays with focus for 4Qs

I think we'll need more. Ohio State is going to need to make some mistakes. And we need to be forcing those mistakes. 

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I think we'll need more. Ohio State is going to need to make some mistakes. And we need to be forcing those mistakes. 

Good thing for us that Will Howard will have some Texas PTSD and PK knows that kid very well 

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2 hours ago, Jiggy-Z said:

I expect the Cotton Bowl to be representative of the season.

I expect from Texas:

At least one missed field goal.

1 lost fumble

1 interception thrown

2 false starts

1 targeting call (Big 12)

If Texas can overcome all of that, then they deserve to win.

Heard a dude on Finebaum (I know, I hate myself for tuning in) describe Texas' offense as similar watching someone who used to drive stick shift, but hasn't for years and is back on the road trying to get back into the groove.  One second it's grind the gears herky jerky and the next they find it and smooth acceleration.  Then right back to gear grinding and WTF cursing.

For what I have seen this year it was quite the apt metaphor.

/csb

 

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I am counting on pressure, being a competent zone defense team (vs man), and fucking up Will Howard. 

 

I think the offense will be able to move the ball. I don't think these guys are Georgia on defense and in the SEC championship, we actually moved the ball decently.

 

We obviously can't turn the ball over and we can't give away points (i.e. missed kicks, lost possessions from fake punts/4th down conversions, etc.)

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10 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I think we'll need more. Ohio State is going to need to make some mistakes. And we need to be forcing those mistakes. 

Texas is kind of good. They won 13 games this year, basically playing 2.5 quarters of football in each game. If they play 4. watch out

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23 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Heard a dude on Finebaum (I know, I hate myself for tuning in) describe Texas' offense as similar watching someone who used to drive stick shift, but hasn't for years and is back on the road trying to get back into the groove.  One second it's grind the gears herky jerky and the next they find it and smooth acceleration.  Then right back to gear grinding and WTF cursing.

For what I have seen this year it was quite the apt metaphor.

/csb

 

I have often thought of our offense like a finely tuned Ferrari, runs like a dream when it’s well-maintained but frequently breaks down and is in the shop. 
 

Speaking of Finebaum, the ESPN morning show was on one of the TV’s while I was at the gym this morning and Mike Greenberg asked Finebaum and Heather Dinich which coach had the most pressure on them this game. Dinich said it was “100% on Sark” because the SEC has been bad in the playoffs and Texas is carrying the banner of the conference. To his credit, Finebaum respectfully disagreed with that ridiculous assessment.  

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54 minutes ago, D3zii said:

At this point they’re grasping for straws. They’re trying to find anything cause they’re nervous. Well at least the fans are. 

And the truth is their OL has had 20+ different combinations over the season. It’s their weakest unit 

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5 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

I have often thought of our offense like a finely tuned Ferrari, runs like a dream when it’s well-maintained but frequently breaks down and is in the shop. 
 

Speaking of Finebaum, the ESPN morning show was on one of the TV’s while I was at the gym this morning and Mike Greenberg asked Finebaum and Heather Dinich which coach had the most pressure on them this game. Dinich said it was “100% on Sark” because the SEC has been bad in the playoffs and Texas is carrying the banner of the conference. To his credit, Finebaum respectfully disagreed with that ridiculous assessment.  

100% it’s James Franklin who hasn’t won a big game. 

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15 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

I have often thought of our offense like a finely tuned Ferrari, runs like a dream when it’s well-maintained but frequently breaks down and is in the shop. 
 

Speaking of Finebaum, the ESPN morning show was on one of the TV’s while I was at the gym this morning and Mike Greenberg asked Finebaum and Heather Dinich which coach had the most pressure on them this game. Dinich said it was “100% on Sark” because the SEC has been bad in the playoffs and Texas is carrying the banner of the conference. To his credit, Finebaum respectfully disagreed with that ridiculous assessment.  

Day obviously has the most pressure, followed by Franklin, and then there is a huge gap. Sark might have more pressure than Freeman just given overall program expectations, but I think the masses at Texas are pretty damn happy with the last two seasons and the state of the program, win or lose. 

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12 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

And the truth is their OL has had 20+ different combinations over the season. It’s their weakest unit 

This is absolutely correct. The OL has clearly benefitted from a month of practice in this configuration since the M loss, and apparently some scheme changes to simplify their assignments have helped them out as well (although I’m no Xs+Os guy so I’ll leave that to others).  But the depth is razor thin, a couple guys are inexperienced, and the best player (Jackson) is playing tackle instead of his natural spot at guard.  Your DL can and must blow up the LOS - I think it’s likely the single-most important aspect of the game.

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6 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Day obviously has the most pressure, followed by Franklin, and then there is a huge gap. Sark might have more pressure than Freeman just given overall program expectations, but I think the masses at Texas are pretty damn happy with the last two seasons and the state of the program, win or lose. 

Yeah, Franklin has a big game problem and Day was on the hot seat after the UM loss. Those two have the pressure 

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28 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Old Guard SEC just doesn't get how little Texas cares about being in the SEC.  I mean, it's fine, we're making more money and we get games against some new faces, but there's absolutely no pride or ego tied up in being associated with this conference.

Texas is carrying the banner for Texas and nothing else.

Exactly. I don’t know if she is just that dense, or ESPN required her and Finebaum to take different sides of the issue and she drew the short straw. 
 

On Franklin, the question was just about the Cotton Bowl matchup, not the whole final four, but I’d agree about him. 

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46 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Was the theory of OSU changing up their offense from Michigan game to playoffs ever discussed? Has anyone done a detailed breakdown of why that was a theory?

If it’s similar to Florida State’s concepts then there should be plenty of tape to review for PK.  I wish some of these podcasts with our former players would actually breakdown the film.  It’s one thing Lehman and Ikard do very well.

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45 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Was the theory of OSU changing up their offense from Michigan game to playoffs ever discussed? Has anyone done a detailed breakdown of why that was a theory?

There was an hour-long YouTube video released several days ago that talked about this.
They said that Ohio switched to a Mike Norvell offense which was suggested by their new running backs coach or some analyst or something.

Can't find the video anymore, but it was a very good listen.  
I'll keep looking.

It was two or three guys talking back and forth.  

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