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2025 GOLF: I don't think the heavy stuff's gonna come down for quite a while


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2025 Intentions:

 

Full bag fitting in Feb-March (Barton Creek Fitting Studio--irons are closing in on 20 yrs old)

Break 85 (Current 19 hcp/former 12 hcp, shouldn't be that hard)

Play at least 20 rounds (11 last year)

Make my first hole-in-one after 45 years of playing (Yeah right)

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8 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

what irons are you looking at ?

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Really have no idea. I'm trying to go into the fitting totally agnostic. I would assume I'll be looking at Titleist, Mizuno, TaylorMade, Srixon and Ping. Somewhere between a "player's iron" and a game improvement iron. Not interested in the juiced up/lower lofted sets and would prefer more traditional loft profiles

 

(I do kind of have a negative feeling about Callaway and Cobra, and would never go PXG)

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1 hour ago, nolongerU2horn said:

Really have no idea. I'm trying to go into the fitting totally agnostic. I would assume I'll be looking at Titleist, Mizuno, TaylorMade, Srixon and Ping. Somewhere between a "player's iron" and a game improvement iron. Not interested in the juiced up/lower lofted sets and would prefer more traditional loft profiles

 

(I do kind of have a negative feeling about Callaway and Cobra, and would never go PXG)

 

lot of great irons out there, lot to good options. one will look the best to you, then dial in the shaft. i'm pro strong lofts but i hit the ball high 

id highly recommend a 7 wood, even a 9 wood 

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I'm retiring the old Epic and going to get fitted at PGA Superstore soon.

Initial lean Titleist but love my TM Stealth 3W and last 2 drivers have been Callaway and I am a Ping iron whore.

Should be interesting.  Shaft is key I know...

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I've been swinging Cobra irons since ~2016. Nearly switched to a T100/T150 combo set last year but it just wasn't enough of an improvement to justify $2k+. Been trying to get rid of my even older TM SLDR 3H and have yet to swing something that I was convinced was a big enough improvement (and I've tried a bunch of different options over the years). I'm just not convinced iron or hybrid tech has really evolved much. I'm starting to believe driver tech is stagnating as well.

Or maybe I just suck at this game. 

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On 1/7/2025 at 9:42 AM, nolongerU2horn said:

Really have no idea. I'm trying to go into the fitting totally agnostic. I would assume I'll be looking at Titleist, Mizuno, TaylorMade, Srixon and Ping. Somewhere between a "player's iron" and a game improvement iron. Not interested in the juiced up/lower lofted sets and would prefer more traditional loft profiles

 

(I do kind of have a negative feeling about Callaway and Cobra, and would never go PXG)

Not like we’re pining to add 19 handicaps to the stable 😆. Do second the blended iron set. I’ve got player improvement 4-5i, tour 6-8i and essentially blades 9i-GW. 
 

Plan to replace my driver this year.  Think I’ve aged out of the Epic Triple Diamond with a TX shaft. 
 

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On 1/8/2025 at 10:47 AM, dieucla98 said:

I've been swinging Cobra irons since ~2016. Nearly switched to a T100/T150 combo set last year but it just wasn't enough of an improvement to justify $2k+. Been trying to get rid of my even older TM SLDR 3H and have yet to swing something that I was convinced was a big enough improvement (and I've tried a bunch of different options over the years). I'm just not convinced iron or hybrid tech has really evolved much. I'm starting to believe driver tech is stagnating as well.

Or maybe I just suck at this game. 

I watch a shitton of golf videos, from club fitters like Champion (Ian), 2nd swing and a ton of others with Trackman facilities. They've all done 20 yr v 10yr v new equipment testing, diff stiffness testing, graphite vs steel shafts, same lofts different iron head types, etc. You will be amazed how little difference there has been in the last 10 years for drivers and 20 years for irons (except for hollow bodied). You will see VERY little difference between each generation. For drivers from 10 years older to now, it may be 1 or 2mph ball speed improvement, slight improvement on dispersions, not much improvement on distances, some improvement on spin (lower or more spin, depending on what is needed).

For irons, it's almost a zero improvement as long as your are comparing between club types. Blades are gonna blade. Cavity backs are gonna cavity back. Hollow bodied are "newer" but at the end of the day, it really comes down to loft and spin. 

I gamed Srixon Z565/765 combo irons. I upgraded to ZX5/ZX7 irons. They are absolutely the same. I used to game a Mavrik Max, but 20gram weight moved up so less spin. I bought a Paradym X and saw no difference. I used the same shaft in both. I went back to the Mavrik because the elongated head shape offered enough forgiveness and the 20 gram weight moved up to the heel lowered my spin which I wanted.

My scratch buddy gamed AP2s. He did a fitting and got T150. He's struggling with the T150s. He lost his stock baby fade and has a harder time shaping his shots. Played 2 rounds with him the first 2 times he took out the clubs. Both were the worst rounds he's played in years. Maybe it's between the ears. Maybe he should've been fitted in the T100s. Who knows. 

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On 1/8/2025 at 9:22 AM, huge said:

I'm retiring the old Epic and going to get fitted at PGA Superstore soon.

Initial lean Titleist but love my TM Stealth 3W and last 2 drivers have been Callaway and I am a Ping iron whore.

Should be interesting.  Shaft is key I know...

 

which pga store ?

 

id highly recommend edwin watts westhimer. 

https://wanderinggolfpro.com/about-me

assistant gm, very good guy 

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On 1/10/2025 at 3:55 PM, crash_davis said:

I watch a shitton of golf videos, from club fitters like Champion (Ian), 2nd swing and a ton of others with Trackman facilities. They've all done 20 yr v 10yr v new equipment testing, diff stiffness testing, graphite vs steel shafts, same lofts different iron head types, etc. You will be amazed how little difference there has been in the last 10 years for drivers and 20 years for irons (except for hollow bodied). You will see VERY little difference between each generation. For drivers from 10 years older to now, it may be 1 or 2mph ball speed improvement, slight improvement on dispersions, not much improvement on distances, some improvement on spin (lower or more spin, depending on what is needed).

For irons, it's almost a zero improvement as long as your are comparing between club types. Blades are gonna blade. Cavity backs are gonna cavity back. Hollow bodied are "newer" but at the end of the day, it really comes down to loft and spin. 

I gamed Srixon Z565/765 combo irons. I upgraded to ZX5/ZX7 irons. They are absolutely the same. I used to game a Mavrik Max, but 20gram weight moved up so less spin. I bought a Paradym X and saw no difference. I used the same shaft in both. I went back to the Mavrik because the elongated head shape offered enough forgiveness and the 20 gram weight moved up to the heel lowered my spin which I wanted.

My scratch buddy gamed AP2s. He did a fitting and got T150. He's struggling with the T150s. He lost his stock baby fade and has a harder time shaping his shots. Played 2 rounds with him the first 2 times he took out the clubs. Both were the worst rounds he's played in years. Maybe it's between the ears. Maybe he should've been fitted in the T100s. Who knows. 

 

T200's is the way. forged face, hollow body irons are the truth. 

did he do a titleist or store fitting  ?

im a snob here - 99% of the time, i'd only get fitted by the equipment rep. too many store fittings are done by unqualified people. imo 

 

 

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