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Fantastic news ladies, we are rejoining a super-team of likemindeds to promote women’s health! 
 

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Who are our partners in this women-forward exercise?  Only the best.  Don’t worry ladies, the men of America, Belarus, Pakistan, and Saudi are looking out for you! 

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1 Kingdom of Bahrain

2 Republic of Belarus

3 Republic of Benin

4 Burkina Faso

5 Republic of Burundi

6 Republic of Cameroon

7 Central African Republic

8 Republic of Chad

9 Republic of the Congo

10 Democratic Republic of the Congo

11 Republic of Djibouti

12Arab Republic of Egypt

13 Kingdom of Eswatini

14Republic of The Gambia

15Georgia

16 Republic of Guatemala

17 Republic of Haiti

18 Hungary

19 Republic of Indonesia

20 Republic of Iraq

21 Republic of Kazakhstan

22 Republic of Kenya

23 State of Kuwait

24 State of Libya

25 Republic of Nauru

26 Republic of Niger

27 Sultanate of Oman

28Islamic Republic of Pakistan

29 Republic of Paraguay

30 Republic of Poland

31 State of Qatar

32 Russian Federation

33 Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

34 Republic of Senegal

35 Republic of South Sudan

36 Republic of Sudan

37 Republic of Uganda

38 United Arab Emirates

39 United States of America

40 Republic of Zambia

 

 

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This was first initiated by former SoS Mike Pompeo during the first term of Trump and central to its function is preventing access to abortion, so women having children they cannot feed in impoverished countries, women dying in hospital parking lots, women becoming infertile due to late stage complications, is so much about "allowing" women more opportunities to suffer, which is exactly what Pompeo's rapture based faith seems to promote. Given that many women from these countries experience hell on earth, maybe death is welcome.

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18 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

This was first initiated by former SoS Mike Pompeo during the first term of Trump and central to its function is preventing access to abortion, so women having children they cannot feed in impoverished countries, women dying in hospital parking lots, women becoming infertile due to late stage complications, is so much about "allowing" women more opportunities to suffer, which is exactly what Pompeo's rapture based faith seems to promote. Given that many women from these countries experience hell on earth, maybe death is welcome.

Looking at the signatories or members of any international grouping is a shortcut to judging it, the presence of Pakistan, Russia, Belarus, Saudi, The Gambia are huge red flags. 

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14 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Looking at the signatories or members of any international grouping is a shortcut to judging it, the presence of Pakistan, Russia, Belarus, Saudi, The Gambia are huge red flags. 

Definitely. I could've gone with a global list of rankings based on human rights abuses but many of the players listed above make the top 25 so it seemed pointless. The anti-abortion stance is central to the document and the rejoining may be a harbinger of the next four years w/respect to womens' reproductive healthcare in the US. Oral contraception, which many women take for reasons other than reproduction, is something I would not be surprised to see become forbidden.

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On 1/23/2025 at 2:58 PM, InkaUtexas said:

Dude I talk to regularly was on the JSOC planning team. They ran an exercise on how to fuck up the US. He got to be the bad guy. First thing he did was sink a boat in the canal. Not even a big one. The shipping lanes in the canal are narrow. Forget the locks.

Navy dudes all laughed, oh we will just clean it up. Had no way to get the equipment there. The delay in moving the fleet assets to the East and West coasts fucked up their plans. They were not happy with this dude. He was soon reassigned from the Pentagon and sent to the 5th SFG and on to Somalia.

Key take away. Don't piss off big DOD with little shit.

That would be a real fun job.  Channel your inner Bond villain/dictator asshole.  All for the good of America.v

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To really screw us (and the world), you'd take out all of the locks via drone, sabotage, missile, or whatever - no easy feat I'm sure, but the sudden draining of Lake Gatun (85 feet above sea level), grounding of any ships in the channels, and the loss of the locks would take years to recover from. 

Yeah just take out the dam.  Game over, Man.

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It is super fun while you are on the Red Cell, less fun when everyone ignores the lessons learned and is mad at you. 

9 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Definitely. I could've gone with a global list of rankings based on human rights abuses but many of the players listed above make the top 25 so it seemed pointless. The anti-abortion stance is central to the document and the rejoining may be a harbinger of the next four years w/respect to womens' reproductive healthcare in the US. Oral contraception, which many women take for reasons other than reproduction, is something I would not be surprised to see become forbidden.

There is going to be an assault on women’s rights and it will not just be abortion. That signaling is clear. 

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49 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It is super fun while you are on the Red Cell, less fun when everyone ignores the lessons learned and is mad at you. 

There is going to be an assault on women’s rights and it will not just be abortion. That signaling is clear. 

Next announcement. The international right to food consortium. Co-sponsored by Sudan, Ethiopia and Bangladesh.

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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Fantastic news ladies, we are rejoining a super-team of likemindeds to promote women’s health! 
 

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Who are our partners in this women-forward exercise?  Only the best.  Don’t worry ladies, the men of America, Belarus, Pakistan, and Saudi are looking out for you! 

 


Poland sticks out on that list 

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Poland sticks out on that list 

Poland signed it under the previous Law and Justice (PiS) party rule which is very much a reactionary Catholic culture war organization.  Tusk would not have most likely but also was not going to pick a needless fight by withdrawing signature when all he has to do is nothing as the declaration doesn’t have any obligations or anything. 

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Speaking of Poland, I bet Musk has “floated” the idea of building a high speed train from Gaza up to the Polish wilderness to re-locate some (all) of these people.

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On 1/10/2025 at 1:40 PM, InkaUtexas said:

There are a few other places I would add to this map. But a good place for those who want to think/track places.

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Damn, look at those American hot spots: Little Rock, Tulsa, and Van Horn.

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I went to the website and clicked on the little dots just to see what's up and the two in the US are thus:

The  one on the right:

Heightened political antagonism in the United States following the reelection of Donald Trump leads to acts of domestic terrorism and political violence. Likelihood: Moderate. Impact: High

The one on the left:

A highly disruptive cyberattack on U.S. critical infrastructure by a state or nonstate enitity. Likelihood: Moderate. Impact: High

 

The dot on the border between U.S. and Mexico:

Deployment of US forces to the southern border triggers a humanitarian crisis among migrants and heightens tensions with Mexico. Likelihood: High. Impact: High

 

 

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We've got a kerfluffle with Colombia now.

Trump Hits Colombia With Tariffs in Feud Over Military Deportation Flights
Gustavo Petro said that the United States should not treat Colombian migrants as criminals and that he had already turned away U.S. military flights carrying deportees.

Colombia refused to accept military deportation flights from the United States, setting off a furious reaction from President Trump, who on Sunday announced a barrage of tariffs and sanctions targeting the country, which has long been a top U.S. ally in Latin America.

The United States will immediately impose a 25 percent tariff on all Colombian imports, and will raise them to 50 percent in one week, Mr. Trump said on social media.

The Trump administration will also “fully impose” banking and financial sanctions against Colombia, and will apply a travel ban and revoke visas of Colombian government officials, the president said.

The move reflects how Mr. Trump is making an example out of Colombia as countries around the world are grappling with how to prepare for the mass deportations of unauthorized immigrants that he has threatened.

“This looks like a pretty bold and daring escalation on both sides,” said Will Freeman, a fellow for Latin America studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, citing Colombia’s economic reliance on the United States, which is still the South American country’s largest trading partner even as China has been making inroads.

“But equally, for Trump to threaten Colombia this way is pretty bold itself,” Mr. Freeman added. “That’s because Colombia remains historically the longest standing, the deepest, strategic ally in the region.”

Colombia’s president, Gustavo Petro, said earlier Sunday in a series of social media posts that Colombia would not accept military deportation flights from the United States until the Trump administration provided a process to treat Colombian migrants with “dignity and respect.”

Mr. Petro also said that Colombia had already turned away military planes carrying Colombian deportees. While other countries in Latin America have raised concerns about Mr. Trump’s sweeping deportation plans, Colombia appears to be among the first to explicitly refuse to cooperate.

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“I cannot make migrants stay in a country that does not want them,” Mr. Petro wrote, “but if that country sends them back, it should be with dignity and respect for them and for our country.”

He said he was still open to receiving deportees on nonmilitary flights.

Mr. Petro’s stance put him on a collision course with Mr. Trump, who since taking office last Monday has issued a series of executive orders and made other moves aimed at laying the groundwork to try to deport an enormous number of migrants.

The tariffs alone could deal a significant blow to Colombia’s economy. The United States is Colombia’s largest trading partner, with top Colombian exports including crude oil, coffee and cut flowers.

Mr. Petro also cast attention on Americans living in Colombia. In a social media post, Mr. Petro said that more than 15,000 Americans were living in the country without authorization, and called upon them to “regularize” their immigration status.

The U.S. Embassy in Bogotá did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Petro did not include details about when or how many military planes and migrants had been turned away.

There were 190,000 unauthorized Colombian immigrants living in the U.S. in 2022, according to the most recent data available from the Pew Research Center.

A representative for Mr. Petro confirmed that the planes had been turned away, but did not immediately respond to other questions. Representatives for Colombia’s Foreign Ministry did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The United States typically sends back deportees in planes resembling commercial jets that are operated by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. After Mr. Trump signed an executive order to allow the military to assist in securing the border, the acting secretary of defense, Robert G. Salesses, said in a statement last week that the military would provide airplanes to support with deportation flights.

The Trump administration is sending the military planes in addition to the usual flights operated by ICE, meaning that they do not replace the typical flights that land several times a week in countries throughout the region, and which Mr. Petro referred to as “civilian flights.”

The new planes sent by the military can only depart from the United States if the receiving nation has approved them. Mr. Salesses said that before the military sent flights, the State Department would first “obtain the requisite diplomatic clearances and provide host-nation notification.”

It is unclear which countries may have agreed to receive military planes carrying deportees, or if Colombia had agreed — and then revoked its agreement.

Brazil’s foreign ministry complained of “degrading treatment” of its citizens after 88 migrants arrived handcuffed on Friday on a flight from the United States.

Early on Friday, Guatemala received two U.S. Air Force jets carrying around 160 deportees in total, making it one of the first countries to publicly receive such flights. The Guatemalan government sent the country’s vice president to oversee the arrival of the deportees on the C-17 aircraft and the Trump administration hailed that effort in messages on social media.

Officials in Mexico, the source of the largest number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States, have said they remained open to receiving deported citizens and routine deportations have taken place to Mexican cities along the U.S. border in recent days.

“When it comes to repatriations, we will always welcome Mexican men and women back to our territory with open arms,” Mexico’s Foreign Affairs Ministry said in a statement on social media on Friday night.

Still, Mexican authorities have not disclosed whether they plan to accept military flights or whether they will receive deported migrants from other countries, as Mexico has sometimes done in the past.

On Friday, news outlets reported that Mexico had turned away a military plane carrying deportees, an account that could not be independently confirmed.

Honduras, which like Colombia has pushed back against the Trump administration’s plans for mass deportations, has said it is open to receiving military flights.

The foreign minister, Enrique Reina, said in an interview on Saturday that it was “open to receiving our compatriots as long as the conditions are appropriate and have been properly coordinated.”

He said that the government had been in conversation with the U.S. Embassy in Honduras about deportation flights but it had not formally been asked to authorize the arrival of military planes carrying deportees.

About four million unauthorized immigrants from Mexico live in the United States, representing about 37 percent of the estimated 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the United States, according to the Pew Research Center.

But while Mexico is still the most common country of birth for unauthorized immigrants in the United States, that number is down from a peak of 6.9 million 2007.

The unauthorized immigrant population from other countries has grown in recent years, especially from the Caribbean, South America and Asia.

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

We've got a kerfluffle with Colombia now.

Trump Hits Colombia With Tariffs in Feud Over Military Deportation Flights
Gustavo Petro said that the United States should not treat Colombian migrants as criminals and that he had already turned away U.S. military flights carrying deportees.

Colombia refused to accept military deportation flights from the United States, setting off a furious reaction from President Trump, who on Sunday announced a barrage of tariffs and sanctions targeting the country, which has long been a top U.S. ally in Latin America.

The United States will immediately impose a 25 percent tariff on all Colombian imports, and will raise them to 50 percent in one week, Mr. Trump said on social media.

The Trump administration will also “fully impose” banking and financial sanctions against Colombia, and will apply a travel ban and revoke visas of Colombian government officials, the president said.

The move reflects how Mr. Trump is making an example out of Colombia as countries around the world are grappling with how to prepare for the mass deportations of unauthorized immigrants that he has threatened.

“This looks like a pretty bold and daring escalation on both sides,” said Will Freeman, a fellow for Latin America studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, citing Colombia’s economic reliance on the United States, which is still the South American country’s largest trading partner even as China has been making inroads.

“But equally, for Trump to threaten Colombia this way is pretty bold itself,” Mr. Freeman added. “That’s because Colombia remains historically the longest standing, the deepest, strategic ally in the region.”

Colombia’s president, Gustavo Petro, said earlier Sunday in a series of social media posts that Colombia would not accept military deportation flights from the United States until the Trump administration provided a process to treat Colombian migrants with “dignity and respect.”

Mr. Petro also said that Colombia had already turned away military planes carrying Colombian deportees. While other countries in Latin America have raised concerns about Mr. Trump’s sweeping deportation plans, Colombia appears to be among the first to explicitly refuse to cooperate.

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“I cannot make migrants stay in a country that does not want them,” Mr. Petro wrote, “but if that country sends them back, it should be with dignity and respect for them and for our country.”

He said he was still open to receiving deportees on nonmilitary flights.

Mr. Petro’s stance put him on a collision course with Mr. Trump, who since taking office last Monday has issued a series of executive orders and made other moves aimed at laying the groundwork to try to deport an enormous number of migrants.

The tariffs alone could deal a significant blow to Colombia’s economy. The United States is Colombia’s largest trading partner, with top Colombian exports including crude oil, coffee and cut flowers.

Mr. Petro also cast attention on Americans living in Colombia. In a social media post, Mr. Petro said that more than 15,000 Americans were living in the country without authorization, and called upon them to “regularize” their immigration status.

The U.S. Embassy in Bogotá did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Petro did not include details about when or how many military planes and migrants had been turned away.

There were 190,000 unauthorized Colombian immigrants living in the U.S. in 2022, according to the most recent data available from the Pew Research Center.

A representative for Mr. Petro confirmed that the planes had been turned away, but did not immediately respond to other questions. Representatives for Colombia’s Foreign Ministry did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The United States typically sends back deportees in planes resembling commercial jets that are operated by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. After Mr. Trump signed an executive order to allow the military to assist in securing the border, the acting secretary of defense, Robert G. Salesses, said in a statement last week that the military would provide airplanes to support with deportation flights.

The Trump administration is sending the military planes in addition to the usual flights operated by ICE, meaning that they do not replace the typical flights that land several times a week in countries throughout the region, and which Mr. Petro referred to as “civilian flights.”

The new planes sent by the military can only depart from the United States if the receiving nation has approved them. Mr. Salesses said that before the military sent flights, the State Department would first “obtain the requisite diplomatic clearances and provide host-nation notification.”

It is unclear which countries may have agreed to receive military planes carrying deportees, or if Colombia had agreed — and then revoked its agreement.

Brazil’s foreign ministry complained of “degrading treatment” of its citizens after 88 migrants arrived handcuffed on Friday on a flight from the United States.

Early on Friday, Guatemala received two U.S. Air Force jets carrying around 160 deportees in total, making it one of the first countries to publicly receive such flights. The Guatemalan government sent the country’s vice president to oversee the arrival of the deportees on the C-17 aircraft and the Trump administration hailed that effort in messages on social media.

Officials in Mexico, the source of the largest number of unauthorized immigrants in the United States, have said they remained open to receiving deported citizens and routine deportations have taken place to Mexican cities along the U.S. border in recent days.

“When it comes to repatriations, we will always welcome Mexican men and women back to our territory with open arms,” Mexico’s Foreign Affairs Ministry said in a statement on social media on Friday night.

Still, Mexican authorities have not disclosed whether they plan to accept military flights or whether they will receive deported migrants from other countries, as Mexico has sometimes done in the past.

On Friday, news outlets reported that Mexico had turned away a military plane carrying deportees, an account that could not be independently confirmed.

Honduras, which like Colombia has pushed back against the Trump administration’s plans for mass deportations, has said it is open to receiving military flights.

The foreign minister, Enrique Reina, said in an interview on Saturday that it was “open to receiving our compatriots as long as the conditions are appropriate and have been properly coordinated.”

He said that the government had been in conversation with the U.S. Embassy in Honduras about deportation flights but it had not formally been asked to authorize the arrival of military planes carrying deportees.

About four million unauthorized immigrants from Mexico live in the United States, representing about 37 percent of the estimated 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the United States, according to the Pew Research Center.

But while Mexico is still the most common country of birth for unauthorized immigrants in the United States, that number is down from a peak of 6.9 million 2007.

The unauthorized immigrant population from other countries has grown in recent years, especially from the Caribbean, South America and Asia.

Colombia is the one ally we need in that region.

And shit is flaring up there and coming from the Venezuelan side of the border.

Are they going to put sanctions on Cocaine? That would piss off a lot of washington elites.

Just got this from State.

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Marco Rubio, Secretary of State

President Trump has made it clear that under his administration, America will no longer be lied to nor taken advantage of. It is the responsibility of each nation to take back their citizens who are illegally present in the United States in a serious and expeditious manner. Colombian President Petro had authorized flights and provided all needed authorizations and then canceled his authorization when the planes were in the air. As demonstrated by today’s actions, we are unwavering in our commitment to end illegal immigration and bolster America’s border security.

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It still takes an average Colombian 1-3 years to get a visa to come to the US (or transit through). They aren’t exactly treated well by us any way….

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Marco Rubio, Secretary of State

...Colombian President Petro had authorized flights and provided all needed authorizations and then canceled his authorization when the planes were in the air. ...

 

Riiiiight Marco. You expect me to believe you? This is the administration that campaigned for four years while in office, including a presser at Four Seasons Landscaping courtesy of Rudy G., and now returning to office is the same administration that didn't like the fact that there were call logs kept between officials (including the President) and transcripts of those calls, and thus having likely learned their lesson this go round will either: not keep transcripts or falsify transcripts because oversight is now nonexistent. So Marco, I suspect everything you say is ass and the military was ordered to just drop 'em off OR you got played by the President of Columbia who called your bluff and now you look stupid...and are throwing a temper tantrum because you look stupid. Unfortunately that reflects upon all citizens of the US, more than half of whom will likely cheer the stupidity. Great. Wonderful. It makes me miss Angela Merkel and her expressions whenever she appeared at a function with DT.

 

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5 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

 

Riiiiight Marco. You expect me to believe you? This is the administration that campaigned for four years while in office, including a presser at Four Seasons Landscaping courtesy of Rudy G., and now returning to office is the same administration that didn't like the fact that there were call logs kept between officials (including the President) and transcripts of those calls, and thus having likely learned their lesson this go round will either: not keep transcripts or falsify transcripts because oversight is now nonexistent. So Marco, I suspect everything you say is ass and the military was ordered to just drop 'em off OR you got played by the President of Columbia who called your bluff and now you look stupid...and are throwing a temper tantrum because you look stupid. Unfortunately that reflects upon all citizens of the US, more than half of whom will likely cheer the stupidity. Great. Wonderful. It makes me miss Angela Merkel and her expressions whenever she appeared at a function with DT.

 

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Perhaps. Add to that our Mil flight could not get to the final destination in Brazil and had to land in Manaus.

And the brazilians are pissed.

One week and we are pissing off an entire hemisphere. One we should be courting and best friends with.

 

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Trump administration provided a process to treat Colombian migrants with “dignity and respect.”

Good luck with that, motherfucker doesn’t even treat his fellow Americans with “dignity & respect”. 

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Rubio made some big statements about the US in Africa. These two stories are ongoing and have not heard a peep. Did not hear much from Biden to be fair. But this is going to spread fast. Remember all those new stories back in the 1980's about Ethipia? Yeah, that is happening again, this time with artillery and drones. Would move to Global Spring thread, but other than the atrocities, Rubio is on record about them.

Sudan (Darfur)- Cannot remember the last march for Darfur security lately. Oh, and this is Russia vs. UAE/KSA bullshit.

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Around 70 people were killed in an attack on the only functional hospital in the besieged city of El Fasher in Sudan, the chief of the World Health Organization said Sunday, part of a series of attacks coming as the African nation’s civil war escalated in recent days.

https://apnews.com/article/sudan-war-hospital-attack-fasher-53f41de57ca442ed5dd3a8a1312f4052

DR Congo (vs. Rwanda). Goma Region. Shit has gotten real bad, more than usual.  13 UN Peacekeepers killed by Rwandan backed rebels (M-23)

UN Secretary General António Guterres has called on Rwanda to withdraw its forces from the Democratic Republic of Congo's territory and on the M23 rebel group to stop its advance on the eastern city of Goma amid intense fighting.

At a UN Security Council emergency meeting on Sunday, Congo's foreign minister accused Rwanda of declaring war by sending its troops over the border to help the rebels.

Rwanda's representative did not deny backing M23.

The calls come after 13 soldiers serving with peacekeeping forces in the DR Congo were killed in clashes with M23 rebels, UN and army officials have said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2l07e550qko

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Why did Colombia refuse it's people back, though? Did we try to stick Colombia with the bill for the costs of returning their people (I can see that being disrespectful and antaganostic)? Otherwise, I mean, they are your people and your issue and it's not a great look to be like "nope, they got through the border illegally so they are yours to deal with now!"

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2 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Why did Colombia refuse it's people back, though? Did we try to stick Colombia with the bill for the costs of returning their people (I can see that being disrespectful and antaganostic)? Otherwise, I mean, they are your people and your issue and it's not a great look to be like "nope, they got through the border illegally so they are yours to deal with now!"

They didn't "refuse their people back."  They refused to receive a flight on which their people were subjected to inhumane treatment.

Get your news from sources other than Fox/the right wing social media ecosystem.  That would be a great starting point for you.

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Y'all remember when Vegas64 disappeared around these parts for four years and is suddenly back posting a lot of "reasonable Republican"ish stuff? 

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4 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Y'all remember when Vegas64 disappeared around these parts for four years and is suddenly back posting a lot of "reasonable Republican"ish stuff? 

This is dumb. I'm not a republican and I didn't vote for the orange cheetoh. 

I am an independent and do think immigration reform is a big deal. I hadn't read that those on the plane were treated inhumanely, that's horrific. I'm also all about taking care of the little ones who are here illegally with compassion because they are innocent! 

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12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

They didn't "refuse their people back."  They refused to receive a flight on which their people were subjected to inhumane treatment.

Get your news from sources other than Fox/the right wing social media ecosystem.  That would be a great starting point for you.

BTW, just read on aljeezera.com the row and what was inhuamne treatment was the pictures the Colombian president saw of them with their hands and feet restrained. It would be better to not treat them like narcos and known criminals and just let them board the plane like you or me on a business trip. Maybe they will do that moving forward to avoid issues, I think that would be smart.

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He accused Trump of not treating the deported migrants with dignity or respect. Petro reposted a video on X showing deportees in an airport in Brazil, with their hands and feet restrained. “I cannot allow migrants to remain in a country that does not want them; but if that country sends them back, it must be with dignity and respect for them and for our country,” he wrote.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/1/27/how-trump-coerced-colombia-to-accept-deportees-by-threatening-us-tariff-war

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Colombia accepted 475 deportation flights coming from the U.S. under the Biden administration. In 2024 alone, the country accepted 124.  They just don't want them treated like animals.

I hate that this is being framed as a win for the Trump administration.  Colombia got it's terms met, so they allowed a clearly established precedent to resume.

It's really that simple.

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2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

This is dumb. I'm not a republican and I didn't vote for the orange cheetoh. 

I am an independent and do think immigration reform is a big deal. I hadn't read that those on the plane were treated inhumanely, that's horrific. I'm also all about taking care of the little ones who are here illegally with compassion because they are innocent! 

If that's true you'll realize that the current waive of immigration policy from the right wing is pure hate and cruelty and nothing more. Immigration reform means implementing easily accessible guest worker programs and paths to citizenship, not stupid shit like walls, planes full of "illegals," and ICE raids on churches and public schools. The only concern should be public safety and nothing currently prevents detaining people who have committed crimes then determining legal status and deporting if necessary.

My wife works at a heavily Hispanic public school and dozens of students have stopped showing up out of fear. That's what the current brand of "immigration reform" is about and it makes me physically sick. Anyone who supports it can seriously go fuck their own faces.

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On 1/26/2025 at 7:11 AM, Fastbreak said:

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Speaking of Poland, I bet Musk has “floated” the idea of building a high speed train from Gaza up to the Polish wilderness to re-locate some (all) of these people.

Cool, all those ideologically pure left wing voters who sat out the election in protest and accused Biden/Harris of genocide because they could not commit political suicide by completely ending all aid to Israel can pat themselves on the back for their righteiousness. Ethnic cleansing: At least it's not Genocide, Amirite?

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2 hours ago, 'stache said:

If that's true you'll realize that the current waive of immigration policy from the right wing is pure hate and cruelty and nothing more. Immigration reform means implementing easily accessible guest worker programs and paths to citizenship, not stupid shit like walls, planes full of "illegals," and ICE raids on churches and public schools. The only concern should be public safety and nothing currently prevents detaining people who have committed crimes then determining legal status and deporting if necessary.

My wife works at a heavily Hispanic public school and dozens of students have stopped showing up out of fear. That's what the current brand of "immigration reform" is about and it makes me physically sick. Anyone who supports it can seriously go fuck their own faces.

I am 100% in agreement with you. I'm 0% for sending squads of goons to raid grocery stores and elementary schools. I'm 100% for the busting up gangs and taking their cash and drugs like the raid in the unofficial nightclub, though. https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/crime/dea-raid-in-colorado-ends-in-49-arrests-including-some-venezuelan-gang-members

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12 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

This is dumb. I'm not a republican and I didn't vote for the orange cheetoh. 

I am an independent and do think immigration reform is a big deal. I hadn't read that those on the plane were treated inhumanely, that's horrific. I'm also all about taking care of the little ones who are here illegally with compassion because they are innocent! 

Colombia accepted 475 deportation flights from the U.S. from 2020 to 2024, fifth behind Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico and El Salvador, according to Witness at the Border, an advocacy group that tracks flight data. It accepted 124 deportation flights in 2024.

Colombia is also among the countries that last year began accepting U.S.-funded deportation flights from Panama.

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5 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

oh no, leave with full pay. whatever will they do?

Work on their resumes to go to work for a Christian Non Profit. That is who I think takes over international development. World Vision, etc.

Gonna be lit.

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On 1/25/2025 at 5:22 AM, 956 Worldwide said:

Fantastic news ladies, we are rejoining a super-team of likemindeds to promote women’s health! 
 

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Who are our partners in this women-forward exercise?  Only the best.  Don’t worry ladies, the men of America, Belarus, Pakistan, and Saudi are looking out for you! 

 

Nauru being on that list is one of the funniest things I have seen in a long time. If you are not familiar with Nauru (and why would you be unless you really, really, really enjoy and love South Pacific history like I do) go and read up on them. 

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5 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Nauru being on that list is one of the funniest things I have seen in a long time. If you are not familiar with Nauru (and why would you be unless you really, really, really enjoy and love South Pacific history like I do) go and read up on them. 

Fun Nauru fact - before their phosphate (guano) and therefore money ran out, they owned a tower in downtown Melbourne that the Aussies fondly called "Bird Shit House." Gotta love Australia. 

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2 hours ago, bolverk said:

US, French, and several other embassies were attacked in the Dem. Rep. of Congo by protestors today over the M23 rebel group's advances in the eastern part of the country.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/28/protesters-attack-french-us-rwandan-embassies-in-drc

I wonder if we do anything because there was a lot of fear about sanctions or actions (before this news) bcause it opens them up to be friendly to China/Russia who would help. Plus Rwanda’s leader "(Paul Kagame) is part hero for the way he’s restored order and prosperity after the genocide, but he’s also part villain for his autocratic methods. Plus while everyone knows he backs M23, which started out pursuing fleeing genocidaires into DRC, he has lots of friends in the West because of the way he’s opposed Russia’s Wagner mercenaries"

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Wild card here is the toothless SADC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78w1ze7v25o

I think M23 consolidates in Goma. SADC/DRC do not want to fuck with Rwanda. The RDF is a serious army and will mop the floor with them. See what they did in Mozambique (up north near Playa) vs. the insurgents.

Yeah, Kagame has his ways, but he is anti Russia, and France....

So who do we back? Sanctions don't mean shit in the DRC. China will buy what it wants.

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3 minutes ago, 27-25 said:

Iran loves what we're doing.  So we must be doing something right.  Right?

 

Our enemies are giddy about what the regime is doing.

Our allies are agog and devastated by what the regime is doing....and will not really be our allies for much longer.

Fucking amazing.  And the Trump cock-gobblers fucking love this and beg for more.  

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It seems JV is doing a bang-up job at pissing off our closest allies while supporting Europe's far-right.

Two quick updates from his appearance in Munich:

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Instead of discussing Ukraine, Vance lectures Europeans about democracy.

Vice President JD Vance told European leaders on Friday that their biggest security threat was not military aggression from Russia or China, but their own suppression of free speech — including efforts to block hard-right parties from joining governments.

An audience that was largely expecting Mr. Vance to lay out the Trump administration’s priorities for the trans-Atlantic alliance, NATO military spending and negotiations with Russia over ending the war in Ukraine, instead received a lecture on what Mr. Vance described as the continent’s own failures in living up to democratic ideals.

Those failures, Mr. Vance said, included efforts to restrict so-called “misinformation” and other content on social media and laws against abortion protests that he said unfairly silenced Christians.

Perhaps most strikingly, the vice president called on Europeans to drop their opposition to working with anti-immigration parties, calling them a legitimate expression of the will of voters angered by high levels of migration over the last decade. Those parties include the Alternative for Germany, or AfD, parts of which have been classified as extremist by German intelligence.

All other parties in Germany refuse to join with the AfD in forming governments, an effort known as a “firewall” against extremism in a country where memories of the Nazis still dominate its political culture.

“There is no room for firewalls,” Mr. Vance said. He added: “If you are running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you.”

Germany’s political class, including the conservative Christian Democrats who currently lead the polls to form the next government, has largely adopted more restrictive measures on migration in recent years, following the AfD. But they distinguish the AfD itself as extreme, because of some of its members’ history of use of Nazi language and antisemitic and racist comments, along with plots to overthrow the federal government.

Mr. Vance did not make that distinction, nor did he mention any extremist elements of anti-immigration political parties.

German leaders immediately rejected Mr. Vance’s suggestion, pointing to past AfD member comments in support of the national socialists, the party of the Nazis.

“This is our business,” said Thomas Silberhorn, a member of parliament for the Christian Social Union, the Bavarian sister party of the Christian Democrats, and a former federal defense official. “My message to the U.S. administration is: German extremists who explicitly refer to national socialism — part of the AfD — are clearly anti the U.S. that liberated us from national socialism.”

Mr. Vance also barely mentioned Ukraine, even after meeting with its president, Volodymyr Zelensky, earlier in the day. Last year at this conference, Mr. Vance, then a U.S. senator, notably refused to meet with Mr. Zelensky.

Mr. Vance’s only references to the Ukraine conflict came in passing, disappointing attendees who had hoped to learn more about the administration’s plans for peace negotiations.

“While the Trump administration is very concerned with European security and believes that we can come to a reasonable settlement between Russia and Ukraine, and we also believe that it’s important in the coming years for Europe to step up in a big way to provide for its own defense, the threat that I worry the most about vis-à-vis Europe is not Russia, it’s not China, it’s not any other external actor,” Mr. Vance said.

“What I worry about is the threat from within, the retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America.”

Mr. Vance suggested that European efforts to counter election influence campaigns by Russia were instead suppressing legitimate speech, at one point obliquely comparing some of the continent’s current leaders to the former Soviet bloc.

He poured scorn on the decision in “remote Romania,” as he called it, to cancel a presidential election because of clear evidence of Russian manipulation of the political campaign.

“If your democracy can be destroyed with a few hundred thousand dollars of digital advertising from a foreign country, then it wasn’t very strong to begin with,” he said.

Mr. Vance also decried the mass migration into Germany and Europe in 2015, tying it to terrorist crimes, including a car attack in Munich on Thursday by an Afghan asylum seeker, which injured 30 people.

“Over the span of a decade, we saw the horrors wrought by these decisions yesterday in this very city,” he said.

 

 

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Here are the latest developments.
As an anxious Europe sought clarity on President Trump’s approach to Russia and Ukraine, Vice President JD Vance instead used a speech in Munich on Friday to signal support for far-right parties, including Alternative for Germany, or AfD, which Moscow has also backed through misinformation campaigns.

Addressing European leaders at the Munich Security Conference, Mr. Vance scolded them for not sufficiently upholding democratic values — an accusation many of them have leveled at the Trump administration — and offered what amounted to White House political backing for Europe’s far right. The vice president later met with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine.

To the Europeans, Mr. Vance urged them to end their opposition to anti-immigration parties such as the AfD, parts of which have been classified as extremist by German intelligence, and said the effort to marginalize them and their radical ideas amounted to antidemocratic action.

Mr. Vance called the parties a legitimate expression of the will of voters angered by high levels of migration over the last decade. His words would appear to play into the hands of Russia, which researchers say is behind a torrent of disinformation that has flooded Germany ahead of a federal election this month.

Much of that campaign appears aimed at undermining trust in mainstream parties and bolstering the AfD. Elon Musk, Mr. Trump’s most high-profile adviser, has also supported AfD with posts on X, aligning with Russia’s strategic objective to destabilize Western democracies and support for Ukraine.

Mr. Vance did not mention Ukraine in his speech, despite the high tension in Europe over President Trump’s approach to ending the war, and as an explosion at the former nuclear plant at Chernobyl on Friday illustrated the continued dangers of the conflict.

Before his speech, Mr. Vance met with European leaders who have expressed worries about Mr. Trump’s confrontational attitude toward trans-Atlantic allies, including his demand that they spend more on defense. Those fears have multiplied since Mr. Trump’s phone call with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia earlier this week, when he demonstrated an apparent willingness to offer concessions that Ukraine considers unacceptable, including giving up some of its territory.

To Ukraine’s leader, Mr. Vance stressed the importance of beginning conversations about ending the war, but declined to discuss specifics.

“Fundamentally the goal is, as President Trump outlined it, we want the war to come to a close, we want the killing to stop,” Mr. Vance said. “But we want to achieve a durable, lasting peace.”

Mr. Zelensky, in turn, expressed thanks for American support but said, “We need real security guarantees.”

 

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