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10 hours ago, bolverk said:

since the light came on for me in the early 1990s, recognizing that actual, real-life fascists were taking over the GOP and were a deadly threat to American democracy.

Spot on. My light came on when Reagan and Falwell made kissy kissy on stage in mid-1980s (1984?). I (and a few UT philosophy and artsy friends) knew that politics + religious fanaticism were a toxic brew with deadly results ... if they ever got power. 

The legacy and mainstream media gave them a free pass across the decades.

Now they have near-total power. And they are installing a violent fascist theocracy ... while Elon, DOGE, and billionaires take the spotlight. 

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12 hours ago, bolverk said:

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/us/politics/trump-iran-nuclear-deal-letter-khamenei.html?smid=url-share

President Trump said he had sent a letter to the Iranian government seeking to negotiate a deal to prevent Tehran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

He said the letter was sent Wednesday and addressed to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader. The White House did not immediately respond to a request to provide the letter or further describe its contents.

“There are two ways Iran can be handled: militarily, or you make a deal,” Mr. Trump told Maria Bartiromo in an interview aired Friday on Fox Business. “I would prefer to make a deal, because I’m not looking to hurt Iran. They’re great people.”

The move is a sharp pivot for Mr. Trump, who in 2018 withdrew the United States from a nuclear deal with Iran, unraveling the signature foreign policy achievement of his predecessor, Barack Obama.

Iran did not immediately provide a response.

In the interview, Mr. Trump described the letter as saying, “I hope you’re going to negotiate because it’s going to be a lot better for Iran.”

“If we have to go in militarily, it’s going to be a terrible thing for them,” he said, adding: “The other alternative is we have to do something because you can’t let them have a nuclear weapon.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump talked more broadly about his desire to see the world’s countries eliminate their nuclear weapons. He said he hoped to negotiate denuclearization efforts with China and Russia as well.

“It would great if everybody would get rid of their nuclear weapons,” he told reporters in the Oval Office.

Ben Rhodes is going to stroke out when he hears this. 

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2 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

Spot on. My light came on when Reagan and Falwell made kissy kissy on stage in mid-1980s (1984?). I (and a few UT philosophy and artsy friends) knew that politics + religious fanaticism were a toxic brew with deadly results ... if they ever got power. 

The legacy and mainstream media gave them a free pass across the decades.

Now they have near-total power. And they are installing a violent fascist theocracy ... while Elon, DOGE, and billionaires take the spotlight. 

Damn dog, I remember waking up in the morning to watch Bozo the Clown before elementary school in 1984.

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It would be hard to argue with anything he said. We are traitors and assholes and we have a jester drunk on ketamine who is tasked with dismantling our country.

Really weird to think back on US History classes and every 4th of July and family trips to Washington DC and the national anthem at countless sporting events and the immense national pride post 9/11 and how I feel each time I watch Band of Brothers, and now realize that I might be alive to watch it all crumble because 82 million ignorant misinformed selfish racist gullible dickheads voted for a fat man with a shitty spray tan and a comb over. Depressing doesn’t even begin to describe it.
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12 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, to take the punches that I certainly deserve....I didn't really figure it out/click until 2008, when I realized that what I thought was fringe idiocy of people like Pat Buchanan actually became the dominant ethos of half of America.

I've said it before, but it bears repeating: the election of Barack Obama in 2008 was the most catastrophic event to strike this country since Pearl Harbor.  Not because of him, but because of what electing a black man president awakened and infuriated.  I naively thought our country wouldn't/couldn't go full retrograde.  I was so, so, so wrong.

And, having felt the sting and responsibility for being so, so, so wrong....I've lived with my eyes wide open ever since.  Once you see the horror unfolding, you can't see anything else, and you can't look away.  And you can't understand how other people can't see it.  It's a bit Fields of Dreams-ish - even Timothy Busfield, once he saw the reality in front of him in the cornfield, couldn't look away, and joined in the rest of the protagonists in not understanding how anyone could miss it.

So, mea culpa.  I was blind and stupid.  But the only thing worse than having been blind and stupid would be to stubbornly continue to be blind and stupid out of pointless pride.

2008? Pat Buchanan was doing his crazy thing back in the 90's. The Republicans went bat shit crazy 25 years ago. You didn't realize this very early on in the first Bush administration?

Holy Fuck, batman!

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I'm really looking forward to listening to all the MAGA idiots gush over this new nuclear deal after they pretty much called Obama a traitor for the last one and praised Trump for yanking us out of it.

Now they'll suggest that Trump gets the Nobel Peace Prize for doing the same damned thing.

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