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3 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

2 things: GF was on a work trip and was flying from JFK-LAX.  Pilots said it was too rough in LA to fly safely, so they diverted to Vegas.

As to the Getty, the grounds there are spectacular.  I prefer the outdoor space to the inside of the museum.  If it was damaged, that sucks.

Getty has been smart over the years utilizing hundreds of goats from local ranchers to eat down all the surrounding vegetation around the perimeter of the park.  Why the hell can't the rest of the valleys look at something like this to keep all the dense underbrush better controlled?

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I live just south of here it looks like it’s 5am outside. Ash is all over my cars.  I have 3 friends in the palisades. Their homes are gone. I swam and trained at Pali High. It’s gone.  The wind is wild 

1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

Defending my house with a hose. This is my street. Wind blowing away from our house.
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I have a truck my dude I can be up to help 

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What a nightmare. EVen the structures that survive will have a ton of smoke damage. This is going to be bad for the insurance industry and we all will probably pay

Just a matter of time before this happens in central Texas. I’m amazed it hasn’t already

Hope you all make it out ok through this

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3 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

the winds are slowing in places and its light out now so the choppers are back up. we lost power several times through the night but back on now. 

4 separate fires all pretty much with 0% containment. insanity. 

These are tankers. Two on the bottom left are Canadian.

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1 minute ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is someone starting these fires on purpose? Or is this just trees hitting power lines type of accidental fire?

This is insane. Hope all yall stay safe out there.

Supposedly the Palisades fire started in someone's backyard. Not sure of the cause but I doubt it was intentional. The winds are more likely the culprit. 

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1 minute ago, crash_davis said:

Stupid question. Can they pick up and use salt water from the Pacific to dump on the fires, or fresh water only?

From our friend AI.

While technically ocean water can extinguish a fire, fire tankers generally do not use ocean water because the high salt content can severely damage the firefighting equipment, including pumps and hoses, due to corrosion, significantly reducing their effectiveness and lifespan; therefore, most firefighters avoid using seawater unless absolutely necessary and with proper maintenance procedures in place to mitigate the corrosive effects.

 

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Short video of neighbors in Altadena spraying down house roof fighting to save home next door a house on fire.  LA and Riverside FD drive by, see the neighbors’ efforts, and take over.  Also, the reporter is blast from the Austin past Michelle Valles.

 

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5 minutes ago, 89Horn said:

Short video of neighbors in Altadena spraying down house roof fighting to save home next door a house on fire.  LA and Riverside FD drive by, see the neighbors’ efforts, and take over.  Also, the reporter is blast from the Austin past Michelle Valles.

 

 

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A long and proud tradition in SoCal:

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28 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Stupid question. Can they pick up and use salt water from the Pacific to dump on the fires, or fresh water only?

Yes, the Canadian plane (CL-415) in picture was designed with corrosion resistent materials for salt water use.

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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Probably too soon, but I can't stop thinking about how fucked any property owner is for insurance in California.  This is unreal.

We are in Colorado, but all the same "concerns" for insurers here.  We were dropped by Geico earlier this year due to wildfire risk even without any wildfires affecting our direct area since we moved here 5 years ago.  The only overlap we have with areas that have been affected are "mountains" and "Colorado".  We were able to obtain other coverage, but I can imagine insurability is a problem that is only going to get worse for areas like California, Colorado and Florida.  These LA fires are going to cost insurance companies billions in claims.

I am happy to read that our known resident Californians are all safe.  I hope yall's homes are ok.

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Just now, Goredho said:

We are in Colorado, but all the same "concerns" for insurers here.  We were dropped by Geico earlier this year due to wildfire risk even without any wildfires affecting our direct area since we moved here 5 years ago.  The only overlap we have with areas that have been affected are "mountains" and "Colorado".  We were able to obtain other coverage, but I can imagine insurability is a problem that is only going to get worse for areas like California, Colorado and Florida.  These LA fires are going to cost insurance companies billions in claims.

I am happy to read that our known resident Californians are all safe.  I hope yall's homes are ok.

Insurance as an industry is gonna get pantsed as climate change intensifies our already extreme weather. If the jet stream breaks down and doesn't contain the arctic air, we're gonna be getting significantly more dry and strong winds every year.

Combine that with a shoestring maintenance budget in the privatized public utilities, and baby, you've got a tinderbox ready to go

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