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I remember seeing a video on something like this a few years back.  seems like a lot of these property owners would have the financial means to have something like this available for extreme situations.  anyone with knowledge of this shit can weigh in and explain why it's not done.

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https://www.clarionmunicipal.com/fire-retardant-gel.html

this is just one company.  but the existence of some kind of fire-retardant gel that you could spray all over your house and property in a situation like this is interesting to me.  probably wouldn't be cheap, but cheaper than losing your $5MM home.  it can be stored dry to be mixed with water.  could have hundreds of pounds of it on call in a shed in the backyard.  again, if someone knows why it's not done please explain.

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I don’t pretend to know shit about fuck but yesterday and today and last night the winds were basically hurricane force, and everything was spreading so fast. A lot of folks didn’t have time to react, especially up there in the hills. These winds get pretty crazy and everything is dry than South Austin’s mom after a Friday night, so I’m not sure how this would work or if it would work this is just a perfect storm of chaos right now

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I was driving Southeast out of Grand Teton NP last October, and had no idea that there were wildfires burning along 26. At one point the flames were just cresting on the ridge to my south and the only traffic for miles was shit tons of forest service and firefighters. Those fires were at least a half mile from me and it still took me a few hours after emerging from the orange skies and smoke to unpucker my asshole. I cant imagine standing on a roof with a fucking garden hose as fire is consuming the property 15 feet from me. That's some crazy f'n shit right there.

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15 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

I don’t pretend to know shit about fuck but yesterday and today and last night the winds were basically hurricane force, and everything was spreading so fast. A lot of folks didn’t have time to react, especially up there in the hills. These winds get pretty crazy and everything is dry than South Austin’s mom after a Friday night, so I’m not sure how this would work or if it would work this is just a perfect storm of chaos right now

SoCal canyons don’t fuck around.  Santa Anna winds are wicked. Inland high desert winds suck ass too 

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8 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Neighborhood is devastated. Looks like our house will survive. But many friends and neighbors lost their homes. My kids elementary school is gone. Our country club is gone. Neighborhood will never be the same.
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I am sorry, man.  I am glad it looks like your house is going to be ok.  Here's to you and your neighbors rallying around each other to rebuild the community.

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9 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Neighborhood is devastated. Looks like our house will survive. But many friends and neighbors lost their homes. My kids elementary school is gone. Our country club is gone. Neighborhood will never be the same.
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Damn, sorry for all of your friends, neighbors and everyone impacted. 

Seems apocalyptic. 

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2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

@B00M

the fuck you neg this for?

You don't think having fire protection water is a criteria for allowing development in any municipality?

You're repeating a lie from your Cheeto Benito and working to stoke political outrage in a current events thread

25 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

He's either wrong or lying.  (Not that it matters.  He'll just keep at it.)

There is plenty of water in CA:

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/resapp/RescondMain

 

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5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You're repeating a lie from your Cheeto Benito and working to stoke political outrage in a current events thread

 

 

27 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

the news just literally said "please don't use water today if you can avoid it, even if you're nowhere near the fires". i've never heard that. i'm gonna go watch chinatown. 

 

 

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After Palisades fire hydrants lacked water, city officials blame demand - Los Angeles Times

Quiñones said that the hydrants in the Palisades rely on three large water tanks with about 1 million gallons each. The first ran dry at 4:45 p.m. Tuesday; the second at 8:30 p.m.; and the third was dry at 3 a.m. Wednesday.

“Those tanks help with the pressure on the fire hydrants in the hills in the Palisades, and because we were pushing so much water in our trunk line, and so much water was being used. ... we were not able to fill the tanks fast enough,” she said. “So the consumption of water was faster than we can provide water in a trunk line.”

In other words, the demand for water at lower elevations was hampering the ability to refill the tanks located at higher elevations. Because of the ongoing fire, DWP crews also faced difficulty accessing its pump stations, which are used to move water up to the tanks.

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36 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

for those asking isolated questions about how it gets like this and why it's so hard to contain, please remember that we've basically been in a drought for over 100 years and this is one of the driest seasons on record. it hasn't rained here in 8 months. so as far as scooping a bunch of non-salt water to drop on the fires, those levels are already horrifyingly low.

add the winds, which are bad on their own (think hurricane without the rain), and shit spreads fast and makes life hard on first responders. winds cause trees to fall and shit to fly into power lines which fall and start fires. i'm sure some were started by lit cigs, bbq mishaps, or jewish space lasers, but huge winds always start fires. there are at least 4 independent fires going right now, which is insanely rare (typically one fire spreads but they're all connected).

also remember, many of these communities, especially ones in the hills have one way in and one way out. when people are fleeing and firetrucks are trying to get in/out, it's almost impossible. anyone familiar with how la is on a map can tell you how few options you have just to get from the city to the valley and how clogged those roads get, and that's before trees/random objects are blocking roads.

the news just literally said "please don't use water today if you can avoid it, even if you're nowhere near the fires". i've never heard that. i'm gonna go watch chinatown. 

@Sbbruin glad you're safe. let's meet up at a shitty palm springs casino. don't bring your cats.

I've been doing some work in Sylmar since October.  Even for my dry-ass West Texas weather and climate that I am used to; I thought everything was an virtual tinderbox out there.  It is unbelievable.

 

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14 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

anyway here is the tweet if you want to pass it along to anyone headed in that direction. Sorry wasn’t trying to be political at all. Just a place to stop and rest and get a meal and camp out if needed. 

 

Pro tip: never recommend a restaurant with the Chef is named “Gruel”

Edit: Dammit! I’m late to the party again Surlygator

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4 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

Defending my house with a hose. This is my street. Wind blowing away from our house.
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Been there, made front page of Star-Telegram in Feb '07. Neighbor started an electrical fire with 40 mph winds straight toward my house. Nothing but hay field in between. I made it by the hair of my chinny chin chin.

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3 minutes ago, RPM said:

Been there, made front page of Star-Telegram in Feb '07. Neighbor started an electrical fire with 40 mph winds straight toward my house. Nothing but hay field in between. I made it by the hair of my chinny chin chin.

Our neighbor one street behind and one house over lost their house to a fire during Icepocalypse Austin.  We knew they were safe, and all I could do was just watch their house burn from my back porch and hope the fire didn't jump into our very heavily treed back yard.  Fire sucks.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Our neighbor one street behind and one house over lost their house to a fire during Icepocalypse Austin.  We knew they were safe, and all I could do was just watch their house burn from my back porch and hope the fire didn't jump into our very heavily treed back yard.  Fire sucks.

It really makes you want to surround your house in Cali with as much of a large rock garden that you can, and instead of a lawn sprinkler system, rig the external part of your house with roof & walls with an external water sprinkler system to cover everything, so embers are put out as soon as they land on your house.

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2 hours ago, futureman said:

I remember seeing a video on something like this a few years back.  seems like a lot of these property owners would have the financial means to have something like this available for extreme situations.  anyone with knowledge of this shit can weigh in and explain why it's not done.

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https://www.clarionmunicipal.com/fire-retardant-gel.html

this is just one company.  but the existence of some kind of fire-retardant gel that you could spray all over your house and property in a situation like this is interesting to me.  probably wouldn't be cheap, but cheaper than losing your $5MM home.  it can be stored dry to be mixed with water.  could have hundreds of pounds of it on call in a shed in the backyard.  again, if someone knows why it's not done please explain.

in my line of work there is a fire suppressant system that when activated covers a ~5,000 square foot area in a foam to put out the flames, there should be something similar available for a home depending upon how much money you want to spend on it 

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1 minute ago, Bill Brasky said:

in my line of work there is a fire suppressant system that when activated covers a ~5,000 square foot area in a foam to put out the flames, there should be something similar available for a home depending upon how much money you want to spend on it 

AH FUCK, Bob's grilling again.  Trigger the countermeasures!

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4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Lost Creek has enough water in its storage tanks for 1.5 house fires.  Not two.  And damned sure as shit not three.  One-and-a-half.  So if a fire ever came up from the greenbelt, that entire subdivision is right fucked.

This is a MASSIVE scandal if so

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