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  On 1/9/2025 at 5:51 PM, InkaUtexas said:

So do a lot of Federal remote properties and highways departments along the east coast.

And if it goes wrong and the goats catch on fire, well ya got a bbq for the work crew.

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My sister has some goats on her property. They are somehow simultaneously some of the smartest and dumbest creatures on the planet, but they can eat some greenery. We give them the christmas tree every new year, and they fucking go ham on that thing. 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 6:47 PM, hookemATL said:

Occasionally, one would get their horns stuck in the fence overnight and coyotes would get a free buffet.  Wandering up to a find a head sticking through a fence attached to a spinal column covered in viscera was metal af.

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This.  You have to cover the herd for sure.  Keep them safe at night or run donkeys/dogs with them.  Hunters this year nicked a deer and my cousin has blood-tracking dogs with GPS collars.  Found the deer within 24 hours, reduced down to the bones.  Think of the old piranha scenes in the movies.  Just gristle and bone.  

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  On 1/9/2025 at 6:47 PM, hookemATL said:

 

Occasionally, one would get their horns stuck in the fence overnight and coyotes would get a free buffet.  Wandering up to a find a head sticking through a fence attached to a spinal column covered in viscera was metal af.

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They don’t eat the organs?  I thought they went for them first.

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It is fucking crazy.  My old man, on several occasions, would wake up in dead of night just to go check main fence line and find one stuck.  Some type of weird farmer spidey sense.  Our big boy Great Pyrenees  kept the incursions to a minimum, but coyotes are wily (or at least thats what the cartoons told me).

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  On 1/9/2025 at 6:52 PM, Blotto said:

My sisters has some goats on her property. They are somehow simultaneously some of the smartest and dumbest creatures on the planet, but they can eat some greenery. We give them the christmas tree every new year, and they fucking go ham on that thing. 

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Yeah, they can be maddening at times.  G-father used to curse them daily, especially with his fences.  If you get a cup of water, throw it at the fence, and if the water can get through the fence.....so can the damn goats.  The good news is that if you just need them to clear land, they are cheap, hardy, and don't need a ton of care.  Just a way to transport them back & forth.  

  On 1/9/2025 at 7:01 PM, HenryJames said:

So have we solved the California wildfire problem or nah?

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:00 PM, hookemATL said:

Our big boy Great Pyrenees  kept the incursions to a minimum, but coyotes are wily (or at least thats what the cartoons told me).

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Rancher bear us has one.  Big boy.  Seeing his coat with a nice, rusty color that looks an awful lot like blood always makes me smile.  

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  On 1/9/2025 at 6:55 PM, BabaYaga said:

This.  You have to cover the herd for sure.  Keep them safe at night or run donkeys/dogs with them.  Hunters this year nicked a deer and my cousin has blood-tracking dogs with GPS collars.  Found the deer within 24 hours, reduced down to the bones.  Think of the old piranha scenes in the movies.  Just gristle and bone.  

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Can you get goat insurance is the real question.

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For the Palisades fire, over 17,000 acres burned and the Eaton( Pasadena/ Altadena) fire is over 10,000 acres burned.  That's mind bottling.

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Posted
  On 1/9/2025 at 7:11 PM, Sbbruin said:

Nope.

i just tried to get back to our house this morning and they have a hard closure just south of us.  No residents allowed in.

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Perhaps you need to read The Odyssey. You can use our new goat overlords to evade the cops.

Odysseus and his companions in the cave of Polyphemus

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:11 PM, Sbbruin said:

 But hearing reports of peoples homes being robbed.  The only justice for that bullshit is swift execution.  If you are caught with stolen property, immediate death.

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Out of town homeowner calls friend in nearby town to go to his house to see if his safe with personal papers survived.   Friend confuses the correct home due to total destruction of area, but finds a safe in the rubble of the house next-door.   On the way to his truck he has caught by Bruin and executed.

Maybe, just maybe, your completely justified emotional response to this horrific experience is not the same as your two weeks ago response would have been.

I am truly sorry that you, your family, and your friends and neighbors are having to go through this.  in your shoes, I would feel exactly the same way Bruin.  It is bringing back a little Katrina PTSD.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:09 PM, InkaUtexas said:

Can you get goat insurance is the real question.

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Laughingly, yes you can get insurance on livestock.  

  On 1/9/2025 at 7:17 PM, HenryJames said:

Perhaps you need to read The Odyssey. You can use our new goat overlords to evade the cops.

Odysseus and his companions in the cave of Polyphemus

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Brah, those were the sheeeeepz.  Those worthless turds are born looking for a way to die.  

Posted
  On 1/9/2025 at 7:22 PM, Herbie Hancock said:

Every department/agency has what is called a PIO (Public Information Officer). He or she has been designated as the mouthpiece for the agency when high visibility incidents occur in that agency’s jurisdiction. They have been beaten over the head by city lawyers, HR, and their superior(s) with what to say and how to say it. 98% of the time they are a desk jockey position; not someone that is currently assigned to operations and engaged in daily tasks. If you’ll notice, they almost always have on a white shirt and/or white helmet (and it’s not dirty). If it is dirty, it’s because they borrowed it from someone else. Thanks for coming to my TED talk

 

 

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We're all aware

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  On 1/9/2025 at 6:55 PM, BabaYaga said:

This.  You have to cover the herd for sure.  Keep them safe at night or run donkeys/dogs with them.  Hunters this year nicked a deer and my cousin has blood-tracking dogs with GPS collars.  Found the deer within 24 hours, reduced down to the bones.  Think of the old piranha scenes in the movies.  Just gristle and bone.  

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Ex FIL made good money in the late 90s/ early 00s breeding Boer goats and percentage Boer whethers for stock show kids. He kept them with the sweetest donkey and the meanest fucking Llama you've ever met. I went to dove hunt one of his pastures one evening, and there was a nanny hung up in a cedar tree. Looked like she was reaching up for some greenery and caught a horn. Anyway, she's just hanging there waiting to die with two kid goats nursing on her. I got her down and she just walked off looking for something to eat like nothing happened.  

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:22 PM, BabaYaga said:

Laughingly, yes you can get insurance on livestock. 

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I know. But since these would be working I am sure they would need special insurance. You know, cuz insurance companies. The new Surly 1% I am learning. Surpassing lawyers one disaster at a time.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:11 PM, Sbbruin said:

Nope.

i just tried to get back to our house this morning and they have a hard closure just south of us.  No residents allowed in.  Apparently there were looters in our neighborhood last night.  My next door neighbor confronted a van and asked if they lived there and they said no, they were just checking it out.  He said they better check it out somewhere else and they left.  But hearing reports of peoples homes being robbed.  The only justice for that bullshit is swift execution.  If you are caught with stolen property, immediate death.

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I was assured early on this would not be the case in LA.

Glad you are ok man and reporting. We are not making light of the situation but it is Surly and we fill the time between real updates with great insight into critical things.

Buy goats.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:22 PM, Herbie Hancock said:

 

 


When I was younger, this kind of declaratory statement used to really aggravate me. It still does, but not as much as it used to as I came to realize that the majority of people making these kinds of statements are either intellectually deficient or misinformed. Or both. So I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are simply misinformed.

Every department/agency has what is called a PIO (Public Information Officer). He or she has been designated as the mouthpiece for the agency when high visibility incidents occur in that agency’s jurisdiction. They have been beaten over the head by city lawyers, HR, and their superior(s) with what to say and how to say it. 98% of the time they are a desk jockey position; not someone that is currently assigned to operations and engaged in daily tasks. If you’ll notice, they almost always have on a white shirt and/or white helmet (and it’s not dirty). If it is dirty, it’s because they borrowed it from someone else. Thanks for coming to my TED talk

 

 

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LOL I'm in IT and sometimes we have to walk construction sites to plan out networks and sometimes they make us wear hard hats...I've worn mine like 10x in 20+ years.  Back when I first got it, the site manager took one look at me and burst out laughing.  Told me to put a few scuff marks on the hat so that no one else would laugh at me.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 5:26 PM, 52-80 said:

Texas has twice the forestry of California and it is hotter every day of the year and the LA area specifically received more rainfall in the last 2 years than it has in over a decade, but whos counting

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apples to oranges.....some place like Houston can get more rain in a day than L.A. would get in an entire year 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 6:19 PM, texasdago said:
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Well lookie there living in Houston has some perks: only a 1/10 on the Fire scale (assuming they mean wildfire and not some pipeline going boom...)

Looks down at further categories...

9/10 Wind

9/10 Heat

Whelp... can't win them all I guess

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  On 1/9/2025 at 5:53 PM, C-Man said:

The massive increases we've seen in the property market is directly correlated to the massive increases the primary insurance carriers were seeing in the reinsurance markets.

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The reinsurance shitshow rolls downhill to pretty much everything else too.

It can be challenging to get the CFO of an energy company to accept that the outcome of the Baltimore bridge claim/Florida Hurricane claims/Cali Wildfire claims can have a significant impact on the premium to insure their assets in the Permian Basin. It's generally all re-insured through the same handful of mega carriers in Europe.

It's hard to get my head around the scale of the damage from this fire. Gut wrenching stuff.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:38 PM, HenryJames said:

What about emus to protect against looters?

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I remember back in the 90's the big ostrich meat "is as good as beef and lean as chicken" craze.  Then ranchers realized that those big, dumb birds can kill you in a heartbeat and are almost impossible to manage.  Saw more than a few just turned loose by the side of the highway.  Those birds are F'ing dangerous.  

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:25 PM, Pescado_Rojo said:

Anyway, she's just hanging there waiting to die with two kid goats nursing on her. I got her down and she just walked off looking for something to eat like nothing happened.  

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Nature's equivalent of a step-sister getting stuck with her head in the dryer

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  On 1/9/2025 at 7:34 PM, shakahorn said:

LOL I'm in IT and sometimes we have to walk construction sites to plan out networks and sometimes they make us wear hard hats...I've worn mine like 10x in 20+ years.  Back when I first got it, the site manager took one look at me and burst out laughing.  Told me to put a few scuff marks on the hat so that no one else would laugh at me.

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I've been there myself. The first time I had to do it I felt like a kid playing dress up.

I spent a lot of time at power plants so I eventually got used to having to wear all the safety gear. I even used it for a security assessment a couple of times.

I once piggy backed into a truck yard behind some utility trucks then meandered through the yard until I found a building where a backup controller room was located. Walked behind a couple of people wearing the helmet and what not. Made it through several man traps and then grabbed the door to the controller room. It was locked and then somebody walking by badged me into the room.

I found an open terminal with root and I ran some basic commands, took photos then left.

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  On 1/9/2025 at 8:10 PM, F250 said:

I've been there myself. The first time I had to do it I felt like a kid playing dress up.

I spent a lot of time at power plants so I eventually got used to having to wear all the safety gear. I even used it for a security assessment a couple of times.

I once piggy backed into a truck yard behind some utility trucks then meandered through the yard until I found a building where a backup controller room was located. Walked behind a couple of people wearing the helmet and what not. Made it through several man traps and then grabbed the door to the controller room. It was locked and then somebody walking by badged me into the room.

I found an open terminal with root and I ran some basic commands, took photos then left.

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Pentesting is fun.  And it's really easy when the target does all the  hard work for you.

 

 

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  On 1/9/2025 at 8:14 PM, wood said:

That's nuts. Wow. Takes some big swinging cojones to pick up water out there imho. 

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I believe that's the air crew out of Canada. Saw this shot on Twitter. 

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