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So, something better than zero % chance I may be taking a new gig at a new company. Would basically be a national role where I am regional now. Essentially my boss’s boss’s job at a competitor.

In my current role I have coached up some really good people on our team.

Is it a dick move to steal people form your old company? Should I do it anyway?

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4 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

So, something better than zero % chance I may be taking a new gig at a new company. Would basically be a national role where I am regional now. Essentially my boss’s boss’s job at a competitor.

In my current role I have coached up some really good people on our team.

Is it a dick move to steal people form your old company? Should I do it anyway?

Does your current employment contract have a non-solicitation clause?

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Appreciate the feedback.

 

Interesting situation for sure. My current group is made up of nearly 100% great people. Not the least bit unhappy and could ride into the sunset here. Only reason I’m talking to the new group is the opportunity is to build an organization. And a multiple on comp.

 

I know the current environment has changed. My old school ways change slower though. 

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What's your relationship like with your current employer?   Are they a mega-corp with zero fucks to give or are you leaving a mid-market family shop who will hold a serious grudge?

What's the likelihood you will ever need to do business with them again?

 

I've seen this kind of thing play out and blow up in the face of the employee poacher when new employer doesn't live up to promises they used to lure a key employee who can poach former employer's staff.

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You might want to wait to start poaching until you know it’s a good spot. A bunch of people followed my boss’s boss two years ago, and he didn’t make it a year there after a few people followed.

If the people you want to bring over are all also regional people, not sure how that translates to national accounts. Something to think about in case it sucks and you still want to be welcome back.

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Legally it would be difficult for your former employer to go after you unless you signed an NDA that had a solicitation clause. 

However, with that said a former employer can make things very uncomfortable for you personally. Just because they won’t win in court doesn’t mean they won’t file a lawsuit anyway and force you to burn up a lot of legal expenses defending it. 

if you only take a few and stop, or space them out over time, you won’t get them worried about decimating their org and they likely won’t react.  

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1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Surprised a company big enough to have a boss's boss, doesn't have at least a boiler plate employee contract upon job acceptance.

There might be language in an employee handbook that was acknowledged when hired.  No idea about current legality or enforceability of something like that.

 

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51 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Legally it would be difficult for your former employer to go after you unless you signed an NDA that had a solicitation clause. 

However, with that said a former employer can make things very uncomfortable for you personally. Just because they won’t win in court doesn’t mean they won’t file a lawsuit anyway and force you to burn up a lot of legal expenses defending it. 

if you only take a few and stop, or space them out over time, you won’t get them worried about decimating their org and they likely won’t react.  

Some good advice on the thread and this part is very possibly true.  

Are you in Texas?  For a long time, it was hard to make even a bullshit lawsuit go away in Texas in the short term.  That has changed some, but I'll have to let the state court practitioners opine on that.  And, would your new employer be aware of and supportive of any such poaching or raiding scheme?  

One thing you have to watch for is potential trade secrets claims about some information, including customers, of the old employer.

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1 hour ago, Hefeweizen said:

Ok I’ll be the codger and say it’s a dick move if you’ve been treated well all along.  It depends on the company’s size and impact of your leaving but since you don’t have an employment agreement it does sound like it’s completely up to you how you handle it.

My feeling as well. You will also be burning any type of future recommendation/return role from the company should you unexpectantly need it. No one would blame you for taking a better job with more pay, but they will care if you start poaching people.  If they have treated you well, return the favor.

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19 hours ago, tbone_ said:

In my current role I have coached up some really good people on our team.

Is it a dick move to steal people form your old company? Should I do it anyway?

You could coach up good people at the new place too, and not find out the hard way how small the world is.

Also, maybe some of your old team make it over on their own, in a way where you don't burn bridges.

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